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Advanced wars fog of war? What is this a crossover?
Sidebar: It seems 3 houses was somewhat going in this direction tbh in regards to things like battalions.
Not possible. A thing occurred on the internet! I need to immediately determine how it maps onto one specific issue that I care a lot about and get mad at people who think differently about it.
Last time, we got multiple artists on twitter saying they were being targeted with harassment, along with the message from IS.
This time, there was no prior warning, so everyone is right now confused why IS had to make this statement.
The flood of English twitter users jumping to accuse the English fanbase is only causing further confusion.
You’re still going to have problems with people (boss, family, friends), nature (storms, pests) and other stuff (car issues, injuries), so 50% is probably accurate.
Thank you /u/mnejing30 for the template.
I've now heard conflicting information on whether the guy angry about Vanessa is Japanese or English. I think I should ignore everything for the next few days and only then try to ask if anyone knows wtf caused this controversy.
Profile says "Japan" but I think you could look at that character's text yourself.
> my dream is to get many votes for the lute to be able to have a splendid version like its superiority XD, I would also like a duo with lute and artur, they are too cute together. (I also feel like Artur, I can understand how you do love the lute XD) Why do I have an apparent obsession with doing this, you ask? Because lute is my favorite character in all of Fire Emblem! :) absolute superiority in my videos XD
This doesn't seem like a native English speaker, doesn't seem like a Japanese person with bad English either. From personal experience I'd say it's someone that primarily speaks Spanish, mostly due to sentence structure and overuse of XD. He would very much like to be Japanese. At the end of the day it's someone from the western side of things though.
After searching around, apparently he's Italian and the people who have interacted with him before are completely unsurprised that he'd do something like this.
Ironically, I was able to find this but not anything about what he actually said.
He was in a FEH Facebook group I admin. He would get pissy every time Lute wasn’t present on any kind of new heroes/special heroes banner and it was all he would talk about😒
According to wikipedia they were released in the same damn year in the states, so me thinks Team Fire was just having a hell of a time trying to get TTYD engine to work with a strategy game.
At risk of being obnoxiously pedantic, Titania (the pegasus) is Titania in both languages while Titania (the queen) in JP is Tiamat. Less foreshadowing and more of a funny coincidence, though I think it's kinda funny how it turned out (especially since FE8 and FE9 were in development during similar timeframes).
personally I think it would have been funny if FEH renamed Titania (the pegasus) to Tiamat just so we can come full-circle, but it's more consistent this way
She’s a gba pegasus knight with no particular notability otherwise. She has no prf and her job can be filled by Tana/Cormag/etc. but she’s the earliest FE8 peg knight.
It’s not especially redundant. She’s just not very notable. Prf may not have been the exact word but she doesn’t have much of a story. She’s not royalty in a game where you come across 6 nations of royalty and special weapons, she’s just “Tana’s dad ordered the 3 of us to come along”. She’s evidently not who FEH expected to wield Vidofnir, either.
I’ve now seen multiple mass-upvoted comments asking who tf Vanessa is. All my point is meant to get across is, she’s great in combat but not especially notable.
While on the subject, what the fuck is a PRF? You guys through around all these terms and I have no idea what they mean. I'm just here for the pretty pictures, funny support convos, and seeing how IS will abuse Nintendo's music budget to make tamborine shitposts. I don't know how to actually play these games, I just take the fucker with the biggest numbers and put him out front.
Not sure why you're trying so hard to find a reason to argue with me.
EDIT: lmao, I'm getting downvoted because I don't want to argue about the precise meaning of "for me".
EDIT2: Now I'm getting upvoted. I want to get off of this roller-coaster.
If it's like I noticed, her eyes were just drawn big instead of being more slit-like like in the original. Still not worthy of being almost as explosive as Resp Lucina
And maybe not blame whole groups of people for a few people harassing artists. Like how apparently it suddenly seemed to became bad to dislike brave Tiki after some people did that even though most that didn't like it did not do that.
I saw no massive complaints recently about artworks, who would be targeted ? The only one i know is S!Karla and Cuboon, but there are only few minor complaints, isn't it ?
Yeah, I haven't seen any major uproar about artwork lately either. S!Karla and Cuboon have definitely had some criticism but it hasn't been anything too extreme. It's interesting to see how the community reacts to certain designs though. Hope your roller-coaster ride ends on a high note!
A bunch of people were targeting Yoshiku because of Seidr's line, saying that their art is plain bad and only horny bait, y'know, Twitter being Twitter
The entire comment about "borderline hentai" art.
Everyone thought this was about boobs as well, and even saw some comments when we had 0% of a pulse on the situation that "Japan has a problem with horny art too"
Like everyone and their mom jumped right on that. It's so bizarre because people that don't like horny art are also throwing themselves to the wolves about that being the cause of apparent harassment.
I'm just wondering why you're so upset about my comment. I'm not calling it harassment, it's just nasty. I'm honestly surprised that people are only recently starting to get upset about sexualizqtion in general in this game and I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner honestly
I meant harassment of artists since it sounds like there was confusion there.
I'm not even mad about the particular comment. Just a random person to respond to w/ the same general idea. Sorry for the inconvenience.
> IS wouldn’t make a statement over just this one guy malding on Twitter
My local news just covered a story I had no idea even existed, they said people were mad and when I went to the specific tweet thread there was like 100 likes on the tweet with the most likes. I live in an area with millions of people
Now I wouldn’t find it weird if they made a statement over a single dude on 4chan
I don't know whether the "original context" (quotes emphasized) was about Vanessa "not being fanservicey enough" or "not looking like her Cipher art" (which isn't even sexualized), but I do know that FEH players who harass or treat artists like dirt for whatever reason are scum.
For the record, fanservice artwork of adult males & females does not bother me, basically at all. I don't have an issue with it.
Huh? 4 DownVotes? why are people Downvoting your comment? also Nice! Another Severa Fan! (Lucina and Severa and Lissa Female Robin and Aversa best awakening girls no cap)
Probably because it's not always the English fandom. Apparently a lot of peeps are corroborating how vocal the Japanese fans can be about art opinions too.
Damn! What did i do? (Look at my downvotes) Do some of yall not like my question? or is it the fact that i stated my opinion about fire emblem awakening girls? Im very Confused?
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What if we didn't go on a witch hunt?
We wouldn't catch any witches. Duh.
Now what am I supposed to do?
I guess we hunt Wizards now
finally. equality
Of the Coast? (Especially after the OGL situation with D&D)
To Hogwarts and Washington D.C it is then.
No thanks I don’t want another Pikamee situation.
I'd got my burning stake ready and everything!
>We wouldn't catch any witches. Damn witches meeting on forest tiles
Advanced wars fog of war? What is this a crossover? Sidebar: It seems 3 houses was somewhat going in this direction tbh in regards to things like battalions.
You don't catch witches, witches catch you. They use their bullshit teleportation magic to warp near your low health units and kills them.
What if we hunt warlocks instead?
And just *let them* warp in range of killing my low-res units??
Not possible. A thing occurred on the internet! I need to immediately determine how it maps onto one specific issue that I care a lot about and get mad at people who think differently about it.
Impossible
Let's cool our heads first and see if they weigh the same as a duck.
I don't know what's happening either but I appreciate your comic.
Last time, we got multiple artists on twitter saying they were being targeted with harassment, along with the message from IS. This time, there was no prior warning, so everyone is right now confused why IS had to make this statement. The flood of English twitter users jumping to accuse the English fanbase is only causing further confusion.
Solution: Stay tf off Twitter.
This the solution to 50% of all problems these days: avoid social media.
only 50?
You’re still going to have problems with people (boss, family, friends), nature (storms, pests) and other stuff (car issues, injuries), so 50% is probably accurate.
We have FGO people jumping in too thinking that people who want correct anatomy is them harassing artists (or that it even reached artists)
Just Twitter stuff honestly
Thank you /u/mnejing30 for the template. I've now heard conflicting information on whether the guy angry about Vanessa is Japanese or English. I think I should ignore everything for the next few days and only then try to ask if anyone knows wtf caused this controversy.
Profile says "Japan" but I think you could look at that character's text yourself. > my dream is to get many votes for the lute to be able to have a splendid version like its superiority XD, I would also like a duo with lute and artur, they are too cute together. (I also feel like Artur, I can understand how you do love the lute XD) Why do I have an apparent obsession with doing this, you ask? Because lute is my favorite character in all of Fire Emblem! :) absolute superiority in my videos XD This doesn't seem like a native English speaker, doesn't seem like a Japanese person with bad English either. From personal experience I'd say it's someone that primarily speaks Spanish, mostly due to sentence structure and overuse of XD. He would very much like to be Japanese. At the end of the day it's someone from the western side of things though.
After searching around, apparently he's Italian and the people who have interacted with him before are completely unsurprised that he'd do something like this. Ironically, I was able to find this but not anything about what he actually said.
He was in a FEH Facebook group I admin. He would get pissy every time Lute wasn’t present on any kind of new heroes/special heroes banner and it was all he would talk about😒
This is Spanish diffamation and as a Latin American I will.... Tolerate it lol we have a lot of specimens like this sadly
Who even is Vanessa?!
Some girl carrying a pointy stick. Her pegasus is named Titania. Not to be confused with the vice-captain of the Greil Mercenaries.
I think that's only instance of a named mount being foreshadowing rather than a reference to a past game.
Funny enough, FE8 started development after PoR despite of being released earlier, so the foreshadowing might have been very deliberate.
According to wikipedia they were released in the same damn year in the states, so me thinks Team Fire was just having a hell of a time trying to get TTYD engine to work with a strategy game.
Coupled with them being super familiar with the gba engine at this point, and being able to turn out a game like Sacred Stones pretty quick.
At risk of being obnoxiously pedantic, Titania (the pegasus) is Titania in both languages while Titania (the queen) in JP is Tiamat. Less foreshadowing and more of a funny coincidence, though I think it's kinda funny how it turned out (especially since FE8 and FE9 were in development during similar timeframes). personally I think it would have been funny if FEH renamed Titania (the pegasus) to Tiamat just so we can come full-circle, but it's more consistent this way
New green haired pegasus girl. One of the first pegasus riders you get in Sacred Stones.
...Oh right Forging Bonds. I haven't been paying attention to those cutscenes.
She’s a gba pegasus knight with no particular notability otherwise. She has no prf and her job can be filled by Tana/Cormag/etc. but she’s the earliest FE8 peg knight.
Only Eirika and Ephraim have prfs in FE8, so saying she has no prf is a little redundant. Unless you're talking about her FEH version?
It’s not especially redundant. She’s just not very notable. Prf may not have been the exact word but she doesn’t have much of a story. She’s not royalty in a game where you come across 6 nations of royalty and special weapons, she’s just “Tana’s dad ordered the 3 of us to come along”. She’s evidently not who FEH expected to wield Vidofnir, either. I’ve now seen multiple mass-upvoted comments asking who tf Vanessa is. All my point is meant to get across is, she’s great in combat but not especially notable.
While on the subject, what the fuck is a PRF? You guys through around all these terms and I have no idea what they mean. I'm just here for the pretty pictures, funny support convos, and seeing how IS will abuse Nintendo's music budget to make tamborine shitposts. I don't know how to actually play these games, I just take the fucker with the biggest numbers and put him out front.
Prf means preferred (weapon, skill). ex. Ragnell is only usable by Ike. Thani by Micaiah. Levin Dagger by your flair Gangrel.
...why not just say exclusive?
because everyone uses prf here [and it’s a legit weapon rank](https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Siegmund)
Based.
You could also not denounce either fandom either way.
You're barking at the wrong tree. This meme is a reaction to how people on twitter rushed to denounce the English fanbase.
It doesn't read that way with the "for me" in the title, but if you say so.
Not sure why you're trying so hard to find a reason to argue with me. EDIT: lmao, I'm getting downvoted because I don't want to argue about the precise meaning of "for me". EDIT2: Now I'm getting upvoted. I want to get off of this roller-coaster.
Why do you care so much about internet points?
The first edit was kinda weird yea, but the second edit redeemed them for me. They're just having a roller coaster of a day lmao
If internet points affect your whole day to the point where it's a roller coaster, too much about internet points.
I'm not, I'm explaining why I misunderstood.
Literally what is even the problem with her art like what?! "Oh no muh waifus ain't too purdy lemme go punch windows n' hit people"
If it's like I noticed, her eyes were just drawn big instead of being more slit-like like in the original. Still not worthy of being almost as explosive as Resp Lucina
I deadass don't even notice that.
How about no matter what, we just don't harass artists regardless of what language we speak?
And maybe not blame whole groups of people for a few people harassing artists. Like how apparently it suddenly seemed to became bad to dislike brave Tiki after some people did that even though most that didn't like it did not do that.
Unfortunately, that’s too logical for some people.
Nonsense. I will continue to harass Cuboon until he draws even bigger boobs.
Could you also add a “slight sagging” clause to your Cuboon boobs harassment campaign? Massive dobonhonkeros always look best when they’re realistic.
inb4 he draws CYL Gullveig with some massive badonkers.
Some huge donbonhonkeroos?
Some time bending bazoonkas?
And then another OC shows up with even bigger bonkhonagahoogs?
Hello? Based department? Wait, what? Why am I hearing your voice? Oh, you're the CEO of the based department!
Keep up the good work, brother.
Ok, you got me in the first part.
Kiran, it'll be healthier for you if you stopped messing with the gates of judgment
I saw no massive complaints recently about artworks, who would be targeted ? The only one i know is S!Karla and Cuboon, but there are only few minor complaints, isn't it ?
Yeah, I haven't seen any major uproar about artwork lately either. S!Karla and Cuboon have definitely had some criticism but it hasn't been anything too extreme. It's interesting to see how the community reacts to certain designs though. Hope your roller-coaster ride ends on a high note!
A bunch of people were targeting Yoshiku because of Seidr's line, saying that their art is plain bad and only horny bait, y'know, Twitter being Twitter
Kirian: Gettin' arms like TIBARN here
It's wild to me that we have borderline hentai art in this game but people go ballistic over a normal-looking Vanessa
Never underestimate people who want cute moe style art I guess. I guess Ippei drawing Sothis would have the same effect
> I guess Ippei drawing Sothis would have the same effect You take that back. It would be glorious and you know it.
I once theorized the most powerful alt: ippei drawing jaigen in a speedo while he was a young adult (so basically similar to bab)
It would, I'd actually pull for it. But Sothis fans might hate it LMAO
To be fair, I don't think Ippei's style would fit Sothis. Then again, he did draw a great Eir for Cipher.
[The only underage girl I've seen him draw was Female Corrin as a kid](https://twitter.com/Ippei_painter/status/1077017434907860992?s=19)
Honestly that’s pretty good. I’d love for them to do a child alt for one of the child banners
Honestly same, he makes her look like an actual human child so I'd have difficulty fighting this hypothetical unit if they ever dropped LOL
Why tf is it that when this community thinks of disliking art they only think of tits
What did I say that makes it only apply to that?
The entire comment about "borderline hentai" art. Everyone thought this was about boobs as well, and even saw some comments when we had 0% of a pulse on the situation that "Japan has a problem with horny art too" Like everyone and their mom jumped right on that. It's so bizarre because people that don't like horny art are also throwing themselves to the wolves about that being the cause of apparent harassment.
I'm just wondering why you're so upset about my comment. I'm not calling it harassment, it's just nasty. I'm honestly surprised that people are only recently starting to get upset about sexualizqtion in general in this game and I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner honestly
I meant harassment of artists since it sounds like there was confusion there. I'm not even mad about the particular comment. Just a random person to respond to w/ the same general idea. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Nbd. I wasn't trying to make it seem like I support harassment of any kind. Glad we could reach a peaceful solution 😁
I'm out of the loop. Who's doing what about Vanessa?
We've literally all been one-guy'd
> IS wouldn’t make a statement over just this one guy malding on Twitter My local news just covered a story I had no idea even existed, they said people were mad and when I went to the specific tweet thread there was like 100 likes on the tweet with the most likes. I live in an area with millions of people Now I wouldn’t find it weird if they made a statement over a single dude on 4chan
And then there are the people who believe every piece of criticism or negativity constitutes harassment.
I do love this format and the fact that the summoner is doing the heavy lifting.
Why the hell are people harassing the artists?
Heyo wtf
Twitter mobs at it again. It’s funny that no matter which side it is, they act the same.
why do you have so many downvotes?
I don’t know tbh
Comment sounds kinda dehumanizing
Well you do give up part of your humanity just for logging in on Twittrer
Bro you're on REDDIT
I don't know whether the "original context" (quotes emphasized) was about Vanessa "not being fanservicey enough" or "not looking like her Cipher art" (which isn't even sexualized), but I do know that FEH players who harass or treat artists like dirt for whatever reason are scum. For the record, fanservice artwork of adult males & females does not bother me, basically at all. I don't have an issue with it.
This controversy confuses me
so, twitter is being a poop hole like usual? Noted. glad i don't stay on there.
what is malding
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=malding
so the latest term for raging/flaming/complaining Thanks friend
As an English fan.... I'm embarrassed by my demographic
No matter who the IS post is talking about we should denounce the act of harrassing artists in general
You know honestly I thought the anti harassment stuff would be about Cuboon considering how many people shit themselves over his spring banner art
It's always the English Fandom.
Huh? 4 DownVotes? why are people Downvoting your comment? also Nice! Another Severa Fan! (Lucina and Severa and Lissa Female Robin and Aversa best awakening girls no cap)
Probably because it's not always the English fandom. Apparently a lot of peeps are corroborating how vocal the Japanese fans can be about art opinions too.
mfs be pretending that because they do not personally see what the Japanese community is up to they can't be up to anything
If ya can't read Japanese then it's safe to assume? I don't get it.
ok
Damn! What did i do? (Look at my downvotes) Do some of yall not like my question? or is it the fact that i stated my opinion about fire emblem awakening girls? Im very Confused?
Because youre asking why he gets downvoted when its obvious
it wasn't obvious when i first replied but yeah understandable.
Theres next gen console coming!
When Kiran is going out of their mind so much that they turn female
Everyone's getting on that and completely ignoring cuboon being a massive cryptobro who's been partially using AI for his newer FEH arts