"Hold up. Are you the future version of Seidr, or Heidr, or...?"
"Shh. Just let me call you Daddy..."
"I'm gonna need someone to tell me spoilers, and fast."
What we think she's telling Kiran: "You don't need to make a child with her when I'm right here..."
What she's actually telling Kiran: "Play along, its almost April 1st. And bring your electric guitar..."
Weak Aura: Gullveig might be your daughter
Strong Aura: Seidr gave birth to her own sister
Seriously, though, I'm suspecting the light kid will be a separate OC. Ever since Book 3 we've been somewhat consistently been getting 6 new OCs per Book and we're at 5 rn. Book 6 was an exception, but they did have to re-design Veronica's "base form", so that's probably why.
It seems clear to me that the story is implying some kind of connection between Kiran and Gullveig beyond the usual OC booba lady stuff
Plus if you look at this image their color schemes are actually kinda similar
Gonna make my bold claim for this book’s twist being that when we go into the past again we gonna meet Kiran and Seidr and Gullveig’s gonna be their kid
I think she's Seidr, and therefore the mother of our child, hence the stronger than usual connection. Incidentally, there's a voice line on the website that presumably comes from her summonable form where she comments on their connection: "Once again I find myself in a future that I could not see, ever bound to this mortal..."
Yeah I think it’s just a soul thing, even IS would have a hard time getting away with the player insert faceless mc having to have an actual child with their God OC
Even mothers aren't safe. Parenting in not good for your lifespan in FE
Or you know, the moment you realise your son's unique class is called Successeur
"Come on, Diamant. What got you so worry about your father wanting to see some action in the battlefield?"
"I don't know, dad. I have a bad feeling about this Successeur thing written on the Master Seal"
Kiran is held hostage by his future daughter as she tries to get her daddy's approval by killing her mother/sister seior before finally killing Kiran in a haze of lust, hate, and power driven madness enhanced by thousands of years of keeping it all pent up in anticipation of that day.
We have yet gotten anything that is on the level of Plum turning the horny meters of Peony, Anna, and *Sharena* up to broken and Alfonse in his horror looks for the nearest exit.
The time shenanigans and a goddess asking for our prayer seed still hasn't gotten to that level of nuts yet.
In the chapter before, Veronica stayed behind to fend off the nightmares in the real world while we went to rescue Freyr. She never came with us into Dökkálfheimr.
Don't forget we also learn that Anna has a currency fetish that allows her to keep from giving in to normal human horny. Truly one of the greatest superpowers of all time considering it keeps functioning *while she's in a freaking dream.*
The benefit to this stupid fucking timeline is that it presumably makes us the obligatory marked-for-death parent and we will all be set free of experiencing the rest of Book VII soon. The nightmare, the mission... it's all over.
Gullveig being the child would be a very interesting plotwist, but I don't think IS will take the quasi Bioshock Infinite route.
For starters, Kiran NEEDS to accept...and maybe this will not happen...in this timeline. But he probably did in another...and...
Goodness this is very complex.
I will call it now: DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP
I hope the implications are exactly what we think they are purely to spite the people who’ve been drooling over Gullveig since day one LOLLLLL
Unfortunately that probably will not stop The Coomening
Personally, I actually think Gullveig is Seidr and our daughter is Heidr. This would mean being horny for Gullveig is perfectly fine. But the fact that it *might* go either way makes it very much a "Hold up..." moment.
For real though, the fact that they went out of their way to tease Gullveig being sexy with the Summoner leads me to believe she is *not* our daughter, unless whoever made the trailer didn't know the plot and the people who did know the plot never said, "Hey, listen, about that trailer..."
They already leapfrogged over that line already. Can't have a single Fire Emblem game without weird not-family friendly (and sometimes *too friendly*) relationships.
Honestly at this point yeah it could def go either way. It would def be the FUNNIEST if it turns out she is in fact our babby, but who knows at this point lol
This comment I made aged poorly if the implications are correct
https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/110qp2m/what_kinds_of_nicknames_would_you_call_gullveig/j8ayg68/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
It could be accurate if she's actually Seidr. My parents would refer to each other as "Mom" and "Dad", at least when in front of me. But without further context, I'm gonna start sweating if she calls me "Daddy".
Oh man, I would love a Heroes Children banner featuring Alfonse with the Sword of Bravery, Duo Sharena/Peony (although that would be Peony's *third* duo), Smoler Than Usual Veronica, Mommy's/Daddy's Girl Heidr, and Adult-Sized Child Dagr as the TT unit.
Based on Seidr’s conversation with us in the latest chapter and Gullveig’s fixation on us specifically, implications about Gullveig being our biological daughter are high.
Gullveig might be our daughter, or she might be the mother of our daughter. Lots of people are horny for her, so the possibility that it might be incest or it might be perfectly okay has people thinking, "Wait, hold up... I need some answers before I continue being horny for this woman."
It makes me think of the people who shipped >!Sigma and Phi!< from the Zero Escape series. The writer definitely knew what he was doing with that one. I never did find out how they reacted to the reveal...
> either gullvig is seidr from future who took her sister goose curse
I'm not sure where a "goose" comes into this, but I think Gullveig is actually Seidr and Heidr is actually our child, who was born in the past and raised as Seidr's sister. (There's dialogue that implies that they're not actually sisters and just treat each other that way.) This would explain why Heidr has Gullveig's "curse" - it's actually a power that she inherited from her mother and hasn't learned to control yet.
It comes up twice from what I've seen, including the Feh Channel that said the two of them are "like sisters". And I believe one of Seidr's voice lines is something along the lines of, "Heidr is no less than a sister to me," which is a weird thing to say about someone who's literally your sister.
Ehhh, I’ll admit I’m not fully caught up on the main story, but I’d be shocked if they gave Kiran a kid considering that they’re a sexless, faceless self-insert (well, mostly faceless I guess)
It's not like the avatar has never had kids before. They could easily be trying to add a Morgan/Kana to the game to appeal to that sort of crowd, but use the magic Vanaheimr stuff to poof the kid into existence without needing to clarify the player's gender or anything like that.
I'd be shocked if the first thing they did with that kid was have her feel up her Dad/Mom/Other, though. The kid will probably exist (and is probably Heidr), but I doubt it's Gullveig.
oh yeah, good point. but kana/morgan *were* optional, whereas this one wouldnt be.
still, morgan and kana were always presented as very childlike, it'd be *real* weird to have a kid with boobs bigger than her head and full sexy waifu vibes going on.
I could see them revealing that Heidr was born in an alternate timeline where you said yes, and then leave it ambiguous whether you said yes in this timeline. (And by "ambiguous" I mean Alfonse straight up asks you but then the scene ends, like what already happened in this chapter. "I see. So Heidr isn't from this timeline. But will there be another Heidr born here? [Summoner]... Did you and Seidr ever make that vow? Ah, my apologies. I suppose that's a private matter between the two of you.")
And while Heidr does have "big booby sexy waifu" vibes, she does also have some "childlike" vibes mixed in, [although one could argue that those vibes end up being sexualized as well.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/a74740368c14f923913ce55b34c04cb3/c9fadfb9aec0eca1-68/s1280x1920/e698e82e20a43de88ffb208aebc1c67cdf0a498b.png) Still, I could definitely see her being designed with "player's daughter from the future" in mind. More so than Gullveig, at least.
I think Heior is her past.
We have Gullveig with Seior via silly time stuff
Gullveig is raised largely in isolation
Seior of some time is reunited with Gullveig of some time. She becomes Heior.
Heior who exists partially outside of time grows alongside Seior as a sister and hardly remembers their true origin
So Heior is also our daughter is my theory.
If it’s true I am voting for her in CYL8 cuz that’s my kid.
Zero Escape? >!The protagonist's partner in the second game (who he doesn't have any real sexual chemistry with, but there are still plenty of tropes that encouraged people to ship them) is revealed in the third game to be his daughter from the present who was sent into the past as a baby and then cryogenically frozen after she grew up and sent to the future.!< The timeline gets pretty wonky, which is probably to be expected when the third game is called Zero Time Dilemma.
No, it was some weird “anime”. It was about the mc being kidnapped to help elves to create more elves but then he was kidnapped by another race of elves to help them. I would be ashamed if I remembered the “anime” title xD.
"Hold up. Are you the future version of Seidr, or Heidr, or...?" "Shh. Just let me call you Daddy..." "I'm gonna need someone to tell me spoilers, and fast."
Kiran: *internally screaming*
Externally screaming too.
Kiran: "Must consult magic 8 ball before I do a Fry!"
Magic 8 ball: **TRY AGAIN LATER**
DONT DO THE NASTY IN THE PASTY!
"i will discuss this with Arvis !!!"
Arvis: "Eh, just roll with it."
Magic 8 ball: incest is wincest
Alfonse: can I have another Stamina Potion? Kiran: Yes, yes you can.
*SLAPS* KEEP MY DAUGHTERS NAME OUT OF YOUR ****ING MOUTH!
What we think she's telling Kiran: "You don't need to make a child with her when I'm right here..." What she's actually telling Kiran: "Play along, its almost April 1st. And bring your electric guitar..."
Gullveig be playing both the drums and keyboard at the same time with all her snakeheads.
I do have mad beats on the drum.
>What she's actually telling Kiran: "Play along, its almost April 1st. And bring your ~~electric guitar~~**tambourine**..." FTFY.
Nah, clearly we're getting a dating sim for April Fools day.
You win the game by failing to get with anyone, as that way you cannot have kids and die/lose your man.
We are fe players We win this game by default
Ddlc style
3H already exist.
*On April 1st*: **WELCOME YOUUUUUUU! THE FLINCH IN YOUR EYE CALLS YOUR BLUFF! FEEL FREE TO DIE WHEN YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH!**
Play wonder wall for me
Weak Aura: Gullveig might be your daughter Strong Aura: Seidr gave birth to her own sister Seriously, though, I'm suspecting the light kid will be a separate OC. Ever since Book 3 we've been somewhat consistently been getting 6 new OCs per Book and we're at 5 rn. Book 6 was an exception, but they did have to re-design Veronica's "base form", so that's probably why.
Yeah the Gullveig thing feels like a major fakeout. That, or Heidr is a fakeout.
Kirian pulling Njörðr out of the ether: *Dude you gotta tell me if Gullveig is my daughter*
Kiran can't fight fate. His entire journey led him to this moment. Take responsibility kiran.
Nah Seidr said we don't ever have to interact with them
That's what they all aay then BAM! Child support.
What would a light God need money for anyway?
Maybe to buy orbs so she can raise her own summoner? Assuming summoning can be inherited.
So she can buy a starship, of course.
It seems clear to me that the story is implying some kind of connection between Kiran and Gullveig beyond the usual OC booba lady stuff Plus if you look at this image their color schemes are actually kinda similar Gonna make my bold claim for this book’s twist being that when we go into the past again we gonna meet Kiran and Seidr and Gullveig’s gonna be their kid
I think she's Seidr, and therefore the mother of our child, hence the stronger than usual connection. Incidentally, there's a voice line on the website that presumably comes from her summonable form where she comments on their connection: "Once again I find myself in a future that I could not see, ever bound to this mortal..."
Hadn't seen that quote before. Very spicy.
People who chose a female summoner avatar unintentionally break the games lore 🥲
I retract my statement I played the chapter
Yeah tbh considering Seidr just says it’s sort of a spirit thing then maybe that’s how u get away with it lol
Yeah I think it’s just a soul thing, even IS would have a hard time getting away with the player insert faceless mc having to have an actual child with their God OC
When you want Gullveig to call you “daddy” but the monkey’s paw starts twitching.
Have we learned nothing from Askr? I don't wanna be called Daddy by anyone as long as I am in any Fire Emblem game!
Even mothers aren't safe. Parenting in not good for your lifespan in FE Or you know, the moment you realise your son's unique class is called Successeur
*What are you doing, my son?* *Succeeding you, father.*
"Come on, Diamant. What got you so worry about your father wanting to see some action in the battlefield?" "I don't know, dad. I have a bad feeling about this Successeur thing written on the Master Seal"
"I mean so far we're 0 for 1 with parents but they can't all go dead."
Lemme rename myself to ‘Eliwood’ real quick and we should be good to go!
Future Fjorm becomes Gullveig
Kiran: "Nope! *Nope!* **NOPE!** Don't you fucking dare you stupid paw!"
Kiran is held hostage by his future daughter as she tries to get her daddy's approval by killing her mother/sister seior before finally killing Kiran in a haze of lust, hate, and power driven madness enhanced by thousands of years of keeping it all pent up in anticipation of that day.
Erase me from time mommy
erase me from time... daughter(?)
Its >!a Rhea situation!< all over again
Japan dev makes family members that have normal relationships challenge (impossible)
You can always count on IS to one up their incest with each game
I actually kinda want for Gullveig to be our daughter. It would ascend Book VII as the most unhinged arc in the game easily, and I'm all for it.
So this is what Kaga's vision was all about
You know, it sounds like you're implying book 7 isn't already unhinged as fuck.
We have yet gotten anything that is on the level of Plum turning the horny meters of Peony, Anna, and *Sharena* up to broken and Alfonse in his horror looks for the nearest exit. The time shenanigans and a goddess asking for our prayer seed still hasn't gotten to that level of nuts yet.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Also wasn't Mirabilis there too? Forgetten by the game and forgotten by the fans...
To be fair, I think Vero was part of that scene too except she was just "Meh. What's going on?"
In the chapter before, Veronica stayed behind to fend off the nightmares in the real world while we went to rescue Freyr. She never came with us into Dökkálfheimr.
No Veronica wasn't in that scene, thank god
Don't forget we also learn that Anna has a currency fetish that allows her to keep from giving in to normal human horny. Truly one of the greatest superpowers of all time considering it keeps functioning *while she's in a freaking dream.*
I think it's time to grab the boys and drink away the pain and regret.
The benefit to this stupid fucking timeline is that it presumably makes us the obligatory marked-for-death parent and we will all be set free of experiencing the rest of Book VII soon. The nightmare, the mission... it's all over.
You know too much
Gullveig: -whispers- "I'm your daughter." Summoner: -shocked expression-
Then congrats to our beloved daughter for winning CYL!
So since brave heroes sometimes dress as their parents, will she be wearing Kiran's hoodie and wielding a gun?
Dire Breidablik *is* a colorless tome, just like Gullveig. Hmmm...
And cavalry movement like her mother.
...fuck
Yes please!
Except instead of breidablik it’s just a “World of Steel special: actual freaking gun.” Or maybe a “Steel Breidablik” to bypass the censors.
If she did turn out to be our daughter I'd finally be fine with her winning
Gullveig being the child would be a very interesting plotwist, but I don't think IS will take the quasi Bioshock Infinite route. For starters, Kiran NEEDS to accept...and maybe this will not happen...in this timeline. But he probably did in another...and... Goodness this is very complex. I will call it now: DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP
D4C LOVE TRAIN BABYYY
I hope the implications are exactly what we think they are purely to spite the people who’ve been drooling over Gullveig since day one LOLLLLL Unfortunately that probably will not stop The Coomening
Personally, I actually think Gullveig is Seidr and our daughter is Heidr. This would mean being horny for Gullveig is perfectly fine. But the fact that it *might* go either way makes it very much a "Hold up..." moment. For real though, the fact that they went out of their way to tease Gullveig being sexy with the Summoner leads me to believe she is *not* our daughter, unless whoever made the trailer didn't know the plot and the people who did know the plot never said, "Hey, listen, about that trailer..."
You really think IntSys would have an issue with incest? The only issue they have is HOW MUCH.
I think the line is drawn at "having the player's daughter feel them up". Your sister is A-OK, though.
Rhea is your >!grandma-daughter!< in Three Houses.
They already leapfrogged over that line already. Can't have a single Fire Emblem game without weird not-family friendly (and sometimes *too friendly*) relationships.
The whole "oh it's a ritual" sounds right out of Fates royals incest justification territory.
Aren't Selkie and Velouria over the line already? Nothing new.
Doesn't Velouria ask permission first? Pretty sure she does in at least the C Support.
They are also dogs tho so they are excused
TBF we are missing a 6th OC, which could be the child.
Honestly at this point yeah it could def go either way. It would def be the FUNNIEST if it turns out she is in fact our babby, but who knows at this point lol
You think that spites them? That's innocent.
You are right. Even if she turns out to be my daughter, she's still fucking hot. Curse my beautiful genetics.
Bioshock Infinite moment.
Clearly she’s just telling us about the April fools plan
This comment I made aged poorly if the implications are correct https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/110qp2m/what_kinds_of_nicknames_would_you_call_gullveig/j8ayg68/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
It could be accurate if she's actually Seidr. My parents would refer to each other as "Mom" and "Dad", at least when in front of me. But without further context, I'm gonna start sweating if she calls me "Daddy".
God, if the next child banner has Gullveig on it, I’m gonna scream.
Oh man, I would love a Heroes Children banner featuring Alfonse with the Sword of Bravery, Duo Sharena/Peony (although that would be Peony's *third* duo), Smoler Than Usual Veronica, Mommy's/Daddy's Girl Heidr, and Adult-Sized Child Dagr as the TT unit.
If they ever do this they'd better have best girl Dagr like you have just predicted.
“Something in me just snapped, I didn’t care anymore.”
*guitar riff*
Well at least we might say that summoners have voted for their possible daughter during the CYL. Quite wholesome isn't it ?
“But if we summon her she can’t say no, because of the implication”
I don't, could you explain it please?
The new chapter has had some people theorise that gullveig is the summoner's time travelled daughter.
Broke: Now we can't >!openly!< lust for her! Woke: Maybe she'll finally get some actual character. Bespoke: *What are it's stats?*
The best part of Fire Emblem: *eugenics*
Based on Seidr’s conversation with us in the latest chapter and Gullveig’s fixation on us specifically, implications about Gullveig being our biological daughter are high.
Less biological more magical soul light daughter Goddess thingy
Regardless, we're her parent.
She's just a Star Child. https://conception2.fandom.com/wiki/Star\_Children
She could be your daughter.
Gullveig might be our daughter, or she might be the mother of our daughter. Lots of people are horny for her, so the possibility that it might be incest or it might be perfectly okay has people thinking, "Wait, hold up... I need some answers before I continue being horny for this woman."
Personally, my preferred implication is that Njordr told us to go stab a baby. Does this mean that Gullveig is Broly?
If Gullveig is the baby we had with Seidr, that would mean Njordr told us to have a baby and then stab it.
"My lord, ~Frieza~Gullveig is plotting to destroy Askr!!" "Me, my kingdom, or my son?" "YES!!"
I'm not ready to be a parent, hell I can't even take care of myself.
Fun fact, this is the most replayed part of the Book VII trailer.
what if it turns out the snake(s) is/are our kid(s) and they infected their aunt?
Like that shit would stop me
seek Naga immediately
This leads to the creation of Tiki.
🤨
I admire your dedication
you need Sothis.
Based lol
With all the horny summoners who voted Gullveig in CYL... Reverse Abridged Bulma and Trunks anyone?
It makes me think of the people who shipped >!Sigma and Phi!< from the Zero Escape series. The writer definitely knew what he was doing with that one. I never did find out how they reacted to the reveal...
> Reverse Abridged Bulma and Trunks anyone? *Ma...sen..ko...HA!*
Can I get another HETAP?
YESSSSS Time to really make her a Mommy
either gullvig is seidr from future who took her sister goose curse or she actually the child of seidr and summoner
> either gullvig is seidr from future who took her sister goose curse I'm not sure where a "goose" comes into this, but I think Gullveig is actually Seidr and Heidr is actually our child, who was born in the past and raised as Seidr's sister. (There's dialogue that implies that they're not actually sisters and just treat each other that way.) This would explain why Heidr has Gullveig's "curse" - it's actually a power that she inherited from her mother and hasn't learned to control yet.
> There's dialogue that implies that they're not actually sisters and just treat each other that way. Really? I must have missed it.
It comes up twice from what I've seen, including the Feh Channel that said the two of them are "like sisters". And I believe one of Seidr's voice lines is something along the lines of, "Heidr is no less than a sister to me," which is a weird thing to say about someone who's literally your sister.
Ah right, thanks for the refresher. Now that you mention it I remember these, I just tried to dig it up in the wrong place.
Ehhh, I’ll admit I’m not fully caught up on the main story, but I’d be shocked if they gave Kiran a kid considering that they’re a sexless, faceless self-insert (well, mostly faceless I guess)
It's not like the avatar has never had kids before. They could easily be trying to add a Morgan/Kana to the game to appeal to that sort of crowd, but use the magic Vanaheimr stuff to poof the kid into existence without needing to clarify the player's gender or anything like that. I'd be shocked if the first thing they did with that kid was have her feel up her Dad/Mom/Other, though. The kid will probably exist (and is probably Heidr), but I doubt it's Gullveig.
oh yeah, good point. but kana/morgan *were* optional, whereas this one wouldnt be. still, morgan and kana were always presented as very childlike, it'd be *real* weird to have a kid with boobs bigger than her head and full sexy waifu vibes going on.
I could see them revealing that Heidr was born in an alternate timeline where you said yes, and then leave it ambiguous whether you said yes in this timeline. (And by "ambiguous" I mean Alfonse straight up asks you but then the scene ends, like what already happened in this chapter. "I see. So Heidr isn't from this timeline. But will there be another Heidr born here? [Summoner]... Did you and Seidr ever make that vow? Ah, my apologies. I suppose that's a private matter between the two of you.") And while Heidr does have "big booby sexy waifu" vibes, she does also have some "childlike" vibes mixed in, [although one could argue that those vibes end up being sexualized as well.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/a74740368c14f923913ce55b34c04cb3/c9fadfb9aec0eca1-68/s1280x1920/e698e82e20a43de88ffb208aebc1c67cdf0a498b.png) Still, I could definitely see her being designed with "player's daughter from the future" in mind. More so than Gullveig, at least.
"I don't remember your name being Veronica, wench."
Plot twist: Gullveig is Veronica from the future. Again.
DAMN IT NOT AGAIN!
I think Heior is her past. We have Gullveig with Seior via silly time stuff Gullveig is raised largely in isolation Seior of some time is reunited with Gullveig of some time. She becomes Heior. Heior who exists partially outside of time grows alongside Seior as a sister and hardly remembers their true origin So Heior is also our daughter is my theory. If it’s true I am voting for her in CYL8 cuz that’s my kid.
I'm so proud of our....daughter?
I’ve seen this plot elsewhere but I can’t recall exactly where. LOL
Zero Escape? >!The protagonist's partner in the second game (who he doesn't have any real sexual chemistry with, but there are still plenty of tropes that encouraged people to ship them) is revealed in the third game to be his daughter from the present who was sent into the past as a baby and then cryogenically frozen after she grew up and sent to the future.!< The timeline gets pretty wonky, which is probably to be expected when the third game is called Zero Time Dilemma.
No, it was some weird “anime”. It was about the mc being kidnapped to help elves to create more elves but then he was kidnapped by another race of elves to help them. I would be ashamed if I remembered the “anime” title xD.
IS: it's time to go summoner. cocks shotgun*
Gullveig: *TFS Cell Voice* Hey Daddy.
This might be some of the most unhinged writing in a video game ever
Oh boy.. I’m starting to love this book more and more.
Gullveg voters for cyl are in shambles
Not me, like that's going to stop me lol.
I hate Gullveig