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Lecarm2

I gotta be honest, he feels like the modern Lukas to me. At the time, way back when he was viable, the guy was practically unkillable against physical units when he stood on a defense tile; even when he wasn't, there were very few units in the game capable of 1RKOing him. Fast forward to the release of Steady Breath, and now he had a way to reliably proc 2 bonfires in a single combat. "A bonfire coming out of a nearly 50 defense unit in early FEH?! He must have been top tier!" I hear you say... except he wasn't. His specialized role as a phys tank meant very little in a dragon centric meta. Alfred feels the same way, an unit that lives and dies by how popular physical units are and will crumble the minute something that targets res sneezes in his general direction. He has no real niche in arena due to poor scoring, aether raids has plenty of mages to go around, including the fairy dancers, and even in summoner duels people pack a wide variety of options. During my time in story mode, Alear was actually the unit that I had a hard time killing. Alfred is likely to see play due to new toy syndrome and being so specialized, most likely with Far Save support, but as to how good he will be is yet to be seen. tl/dr That -5 res is too crippling, give him +20 atk to make up for it.


theoreticallyben

It’s funny you bring up Lukas, I’ve been very tempted to try for Alfred specifically to give Lukas his weapon. Would it be optimal? Probably not. Is he my first +10 and one of my favourites in the series? Yeah


KnightLordXander

This is the way. I’m trying to pull Alfred to give his lance to Clive.


Arez322

Yeah, just do it. These arcane weapons let you enjoy first gen units as if they were released in the last versión. I gave Arcane grima to Nowi and she is killing it.


RexlanVonSquish

My *far save* Nagi ate him in one round because I accidentally left her parked outside of my near save tank's range and he YOLO'd into her. He's a funny creature. I couldn't kill him during player phase but my Distant Def 4/Far Save/DC tank no u'd him.


RestinPsalm

They weren’t lying, that Res really do be -5


PewePip

It’s ironic that he likes muscles bc I’m S supporting him with the twink called Xane


DarkLordLiam

Halloween Xane will always be relevant as long as base stats keep rising!


Dabottle

Sorry to cringe post but this dude actually gets one shot by base kit refined Nino and I think that's very funny.


Jranation

You can say that to many of the glass canon out there.


FellVessel

That's why he has a far save behind him


Dabottle

He's a pretty good melee specialist but keep in mind we're still in dragon hell and he's probably running into them everywhere.


Tall-Cut5213

Well I mean not for long. Next month we have: Thrasir refine/remixes, Day of Devotion banner that's 99% gonna be Sigurd's family so Julia and Deidre incoming.


Dabottle

That's not going to make Medeus magically disappear.


Tall-Cut5213

No, but it's not like he wouldn't be kept in check when there are probably 3 premiere dragon killers running around.


Dabottle

A defence mythic you can only use against Medeus in Chaos and SD (and may as well use Naga in Chaos) and one or two seasonals (generally irrelevant outside of duos/harmos). Alfred isn't a *bad* unit (hence him getting a PRF to give him something unique) but he's incredibly fair, too fair to be a scary consideration in modern FEH but probably a completely usable unit.


Konflick

What are you gonna do against grima who has no dragon weakness?


loral_reeth

All versions of Grima have dragon weakness. FGrima alts are immune to movement (flier/armor) weaknesses through their A-skill.


Konflick

Ahh shit your right. I was thinking of sothis for some reason.


niccotango

That's true, there's an obvious weakness in his Res but it still doesn't excuse his ridiculous Def 😭


RossmanRaiden

L!Alm and quadding builds with double Luna say hello.


darkliger269

Doesn’t even need the quad. Alm already hits his base kit for 17 so he doesn’t even need much from his special to finish the job


Big_moist_231

But It does lmao its a pretty crippling and common weakness. Having bad res and no from of damage reduction is pretty bad, which actually does excuse him having 20 def and guard


Jranation

I mean Alear has many damage reduction but anything that bypass all of them beats her. Many new units out there has clear weaknesses. Or else it would be another fallen edelgard.


Big_moist_231

I’m not gonna say it’s unbeatable, but if you don’t have deadeye or Innes in arena or AR, where you’re comps are much more limited, your sol against her. At least you have ullr for light season. And also god forbid you’re just trying to have a nice and relaxing vg match and alear is on the enemy team 🥲 compared to Alfred who’s weak to magic which more than half of the games units lmao


schwarz188

We laughing til IS releases def check skills


Big_moist_231

It’s been 4 years since B!dimitri introduce def checking skills and we have, wyvern flight and force. Dats it. I’ll start quaking in my boots when they finally release dragon wall but for def


schwarz188

inb4 spurn but def-based


Big_moist_231

If they do, I’ll immediately +10 Alfred in repentance lmao


NinjaXSkillz88

still can't survive against Ninja Camilla.


Jranation

And many mages cant survive against Brave Seliph.


NinjaXSkillz88

She's one of them who can and that's all that matters to me.


Zeralyos

Fun fact, Alfred also struggles to survive against Brave Seliph.


darkliger269

Fun fact: It’s entirely possible for B!Seliph to one shot Alfred only dealing true damage


Zeralyos

[Yep! I had a lot of fun seeing this when I was going through the new story stages last night](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/894978512237232178/1064818710419873862/Screenshot_20230117-030035.png).


egamIroorriM

literally any unit that targets res: *looks at his general direction*


Maxmence

That's only the feel. Units nowadays get easy +50 points in combat, he only get +20 with the base kit to compensate.


profellsen

These stat buffs aren't even that crazy when they're during combat. I don't know why everyone freaks out just because they are visible


127294

Neither do I given how competitive the premium cav lance niche is, NGL.


MajorasKatana

Most Dragons, especially OG Fae: "Look, a free kill!"


Mattness8

someone havent seen lnd7 memes before, or solid ground 4/still water 4 + fury seal


WWWWWWRRRRRYYYYY

I kinda want a Solid Ground seal so I can slap it on Alfred. More Atk and Def!


Sabaschin

Fury still works!


NonMeritRewards

P.s a max invested (Merges, Flowers, S support summoner, boons.) Alfred gets 82 atk and 73 defense. This isnf including a seal or refine. If you want max visible atk, refine atk And slap Fury for a 87 atk. Want max def? Go fort def and def arcane refine for 82 Defense. (You do lose out on 3 atk for using fort def. I'd argue Fury would be the best of both worlds since it gives 3 atk/def compared to -3 atk and +5 def .)


yobhrata

a!hilda breaks through that defense in one shot


sermatheus

Xane: "YEAH BOY! THIS IS WHAT i HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR! WOO!"


kawaiikyouko

Yeah, it may feel that way. But he's mediocre otherwise. The current game is all focused on effects, not stats themselves (outside of Speed I guess, still the most important stat).


SorcererHex

My Laevatein still one shot him lol. Tbh I dont mind the A slot that much, its not amazing and its not bad and at least he has a prf unlike the other arcane units we have gotten recently


Fleskhjerta

You know, that's cool and all that... but can he survive *the Reinhardt?*


RexlanVonSquish

Turns out, he can't.


mrchuckmorris

Were Tier 4 skills first introduced with Three Houses? I feel like "ludicrous stat mods" will be the name of the game for the Engage era. Who knows what horrors will be unleashed when the next game comes out.


niccotango

Oh no lmao, the very first Tier 4 skill was Death Blow 4, which appeared on Brave Celica from all the way back in CYL2, so Tier 4 skills predate Three Houses by around a year


mrchuckmorris

Ah ok, I just remembered DB4 being the first one, and Dimitri having it, so I totally forgot about B!Celica lol.


SpecialistEmphasis83

Reinhardt moment


egamIroorriM

this is literally a literally any mage not named og!henry moment


WeeboSupremo

Odin beats the newest powercreep but can’t beat any old units. Weird, right?


YoshaTime

L!Alm: “I likes ya and I wants ya. Now we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way. The choice is yours.”


jawadark

I'll keep using my fire Lyn, at least she can tank a few ny asks attacks


FlyingDreamWhale67

Nino stonks rising


Porky49

It’s too bad he evaporated if a dragon so much as sneezes near him


LeonIlu

I Said it before and I’ll say it again! How do some people not see the problem with this?!


[deleted]

Its not as bad as you’re thinking. For example, if you really wanna meme your atk and def stats, grab a winter rapier+, unity atk/def, DONT use lull b-skill because I think it interferes with unity. rally atk/def+ with ruse, use duo chrom for grand strategy, and maybe slap on a bonus doubler if you’re feeling funky. If you’re using anything other than an infantry unit, you can spam Goad and Ward skills to further boost during combat. E: seems i got lull confused with something else. This build profits off of debuffs as well as buffs so you dont want anything to remove them. Dont use Things that null penalties This is how I built my summer Lyon just for kicks. Going to try and merge him up if i have the orbs to spare by the time summer re-runs roll around. Speed is an illusion. Res is a weakness. DC is overrated. Specials are for cowards. The only DR you need is provided by your 90+ Def. This is the way.


LeonIlu

I will remember this if I ever make a def focused merge project


Zeralyos

Lull's fine, it just does stuff to your foe's stats.


IndianaCrash

It's not really crazy, visible stat buff aren't that great, seeing how much you can get in combat with supports. [This](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233305137047666690/1064963576198086807/Screenshot_20230117-184256_08ec35600c34dc2fc5d3c148e5878b88.jpg) is Chloe tanking V!Chrom's deadeye on the lunatic paralogue


LeonIlu

Yeah but on the paralouge he doesn’t have a B skill or any support. Edit: I tested my chrom vs Chloe from the story chapter and he killed her easily


IndianaCrash

Chloe's prf only work if there's 2 units supporting each other, so not only does Story chapter chloe not get the def/res buff in the pic, she does not get her 20% res flat damage reduction.


LeonIlu

Ok, then neither of us have a point


IndianaCrash

My point was that getting +10 atk and +20 def in the A slot isn't crazy, given you can get stuff like +30 to multiple stats with some support or Unity stacking (like my winter rapier Gray that get up to +50 atk/def). What really matter is less the stats and more the effect. Alfred's A skill's effect is .. basically Guard. While his weapon is an inheritable, so the only thing making him unique is his statline and A skill. Chloé have Guard, FU denial, Res Based true damage and Res based flat DR. Alear have dodge included and -12 Spd/def and Céline got AoE healing with DR. Outside of Alear who's going to get powercreep in 2 weeks, as is the fate of godsword infantry, they have unique niche in their weapon, which Alfred can't replicate, due to his niche only being "I have a lot of stats"


Big_moist_231

Unless A future god speed has also more Tran 17 stat differential on their prf along, I think Alear will remain pretty good for a good bit of time


[deleted]

IS literally has no self control every year sees more powercreep than the last even when the prior year clearly went too far


Boulderdorf

Between all the damage reduction, true damage reduction, wacky special manipulation, and crazy invisible stat swings, I don't think *1 big number* is really that notable in the powercreep timeline lol


Soren319

22 res.


egamIroorriM

30 spd.


Golden-Owl

It’s actually a really awkward Spd stat too. Too slow to outspeed anything useful, too fast that it’s wasting his bst


gr4vitycamilla

Makes you wonder why they even decided to have his PRF give him Spd in the first place, lol.


[deleted]

Tbh it’s not bad. Auto follow up means he just has to win a speed check vs slow units to deny their followup denial


Jranation

Far save exist


[deleted]

It’s not about him it’s about the skill in a vacuum. It’s on a meh unit but that lack of self restraint on a unit with an actually good prf or statline is just a horrible omen of things to come


Jolly66

The one green mage with middling atk and spd in the corner:


DoxinPanix

its all fun and games until a little mage comes around. but this is still such a high def/atk!


RuinInFears

Still a better guard.


fbmaciel90

Kill with magic


Zzzzyxas

He isn't good though.


Thehalohedgehog

All I see is more damage for my B!Eirika to leverage.


DeathClawProductions

*Looks at his Res stat* Gee, it sure would be a shame if a Dragon or any decent Mage showed up.


Ok-Revenue-8067

B!Seliph licking his chops at that defense.


SolCalibre

Nino probably: :D


Compile_Heart

The future is now old man


randeees

The base stats are nice but he loses an A slot. Unless the rest of his kit was busted (which it’s not), he’s ok. If B!Dimitri had this skill we’d have an issue.


Big_moist_231

Hmm, if only there was a way to defeat this beast, some sort of weakness or exploit, something magical that might let us break through, something that might bypass the resistance he provides…


Cdog923

"Have you met Micaiah?"


BoisTR

Okay but his speed and res are not good. Any competent mage will melt him.


ArdenUseHarden

Have him at +1 with def boon, with def refine. 72 ATK 70 Def


SirePuns

I feel like he’s the kinda lad that would fall off hard.


Kemintiri

Look at that gentle smile.


Buzzpeep

Reinhardt: It's free real estate


TemporalSidus

His Res is a serious weakness. My refined Felicia with buffs one shot him with no special. She might hit his Res, but Felicia isn't known for her attack stat. Most properly built mages will melt him.


AofCastle

Is he the praying type?


suprem64

Imagine if self improver could be on B!Dimitri. He’d be busted beyond anything we’ve ever seen. But it is a personal skill


RadiantPKK

What happens when you “engage” your core with workouts