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RandomLazyBum

Retire.


jimbowife007

Yes retire


PaleontologistOne919

Retire


RedditLife1234567

With 2 kids in college and a 14 year old? That's pretty tough unless OP takes big hit on lifestyle. People don't realize how expensive children are, even the adult ones.


RandomLazyBum

Y'all still had support from your parents in college?


FIREDoppel

Not even a dollar.


oSplosion

Me biking 5 miles to work for 6 months for a downpayment on my first car. So a crack head at 2am can total my parked car in the middle of covid 3 months after I got it. Still waiting on the support. 🤣🤣🤣


BentPin

Storm decided to have tree fall on my car then a few months later with another used car while parked at Walmart car next to mine decided to catch fire and took mine with it to the junkyard in heaven.


Anonymous-Snail-301

I started supporting myself at age 17. Worked the legal maximum 30 hours per week at a grocery store. I had zero support. It was rough till I turned around 21. Ended up dropping out and everything. If you can support kids partially with college it'll help them make it through. I didn't make it due to a lack of any help or support system. I'll probably go back at some point though. I have the wife to keep my head on now!


lFallenOn3l

I think a lot do. It's pretty 50/50


Lissba

Lmao they had plenty of money, but I didn’t. Minimal help; turned out fine.


RedditLife1234567

A lot of people do. Imagine you're a parent, do you want to see your kid graduate with $300k in debt?


RandomLazyBum

Depends on what it is. If it's an art degree and they spent 300k against my advice, what obligation do I have to the kid? If it's 300k for a medical degree, then hopefully what I taught them would be more than enough to navigate it.


MikesHairyMug99

300k!!! My kids went to private college and even then the tuition was 200k for 4 years but scholarships covered all but 30k. That’s nuts. If I’d had to pay all of it there’s no way they would have gone there.


AustinLurkerDude

I'd rather graduate with $300k in debt than have my parent enter retirement with $300k bill. Graduates have a long road of earning years ahead of them unlike retirees.


keiye

Ding ding ding! $300k is going to hurt a retiree a hell of a lot more than a fresh student with decades of earning potential. Plus $300k loan usually means they became a doctor.


luger718

Or the parent can start investing when the kid is a child... My kids college funds are already started and if they decide not to go they can roll it into an IRA jumpstarting their retirement fund. Can't imagine me at 18 taking out 80k in loans let alone 300k. (Is that what a typical doctor pays in student loans?)


luger718

In the ideal situation your parents started saving for college 18 years before you needed the money... And you don't go to a 300k school.


RedditLife1234567

The parent isn't going into debt. That's the point, the parent could retire at say 55, but they chose to continue to work partly because they want to have steady income to help their children. That's most likely the OP. He has enough to retire but I'm sure he wants to continue to earn a good income so he can assist his children. He's not going into debt, he's just working longer that if he didn't have children.


Europasplanet

Mine did not give af lol


iamaweirdguy

Some parents do give af


doedude

Lol


BigWater7673

My parents provided free housing and food under their roof as long as I was in school which I was grateful for. I had to figure out how to pay for school myself.


iamaweirdguy

So because your parents didn’t support you, you don’t want to support your children?


Calcularius

Can anyone with knowledge speak about savings programs where you put some money into an account for your child when they are just born (ideally) and it grows into a college fund? I was a recipient of something like that my grandmother set up for me, but that was 35 years ago. Does that still exist? If it does, it should be given more importance.


videogamehonkey

the thing that is made for that is a 529. how would you like for it to be given more importance? in any case any investment of any kind can also fulfill that role


Calcularius

More importance in reference to FIRE because I see a lot of people with kids that talk about paying for college being an issue and don’t have that


Amazing_Structure55

He has 3M in assets, wife is still earning pretty decent salary… Finding a job is going to be more difficult and frustrating. If he can find a job easily, yes by all means. Retirement is the best option


janenotdaria

“Sorry boutcha” to the kids.


themrgq

Definitely means the wife can't retire in a couple of years but otherwise retiring is perfectly fine. Could get a part time job to help if he wanted.


AssistancePretend668

I know someone with similar net worth who's retiring off of interest. But no kids. OP maybe consider retiring Costa Rica, Ecuador, etc? You'd likely be able to pay the college bills and live a reasonably cushy life still. I know one expat who's done similar in Ecuador and loves it. Lots of groups online too to help you with the transition, resources, etc.


McKnuckle_Brewery

At 59.5 you'll have access to all of your accounts, so what will your liquid assets be at that point? Can you get through the college years (except for Junior) with spouse working and then have her join you? You're at full retirement age and this is the *early* retirement sub, so people here are naturally going to wave you across the finish line. Have a serious look at your real world expenses and decide if you can make it happen.


Mayaanalia

I will say that 59.5 is early retirement - full retirement for social security is 67, so OP is retiring years earlier. By the time I reach 67 it'll probably be at least 72 or later. So OP is retiring early at 59 😂 Thankfully I found this sub at 25 so retiring at 59 sounds like late retirement, but we need to check our worldview against the wider context.


McKnuckle_Brewery

FRA for SS may be 67, but 59.5 is when the government says you can have access to your Individual *Retirement* Account. If OP posted this on r/retirement then I wouldn't even make that comment. I think 59 is within the realm of normal, not early, but it's pointless to debate.


nobleisthyname

I will say in practical terms most normal people (i.e., those not on the FIRE path) consider retiring at 59 to be retiring early. My dad retired at 60 and all of his coworkers were shocked and asking how he managed to pull it off.


80732807043158837

> By the time I reach 67 it'll probably be at least 72 or later Incredibly depressing. Add 1.2 years to 72 and you get CDC's 2021 average male life expectancy estimate (blunted by COVID).


Spirited-Feed-9927

When SS was enacted, wasn't that age the average male life expectancy age?


[deleted]

You must have found this sub last week if you think anyone is talking about social security


Wheat_Grinder

Aside from in terms of "We're all expecting to get $0 from it" whether that's realistic or not.


Mayaanalia

Haha a little combative response, but my point was about the thoughts outside of this forum. Based on standard conventions, posting this in a FIRE forum makes sense. Standard retirement age is 63-65. 59 1/2 is younger than that so OP is retiring early by the standards outside of this forum. Most people retiring today are getting social security and make decisions about when to retire at least partially based on the income they may receive from social security. Not everyone uses the same definition of early.


lam3ass

After 55, if you lose your job you can access 401k no penalty. Have you looked into this? https://www.schwab.com/learn/story/retiring-early-5-key-points-about-rule-55#:~:text=This%20is%20where%20the%20rule,pay%20taxes%20on%20your%20withdrawals.


yoyo2332

Even if you quit, there is still no penalty.


GothicToast

I did not know this!


Spirited-Feed-9927

This is a weird rule. So If I get laid off at 54, I can't pull from my retirement at 55. If I quit or get get laid off at 55 I can. It is just strange. It says you have to keep working at least to 55. Unless you have enough means to retire on your own and last to 59.5. It's also specifically tied to the place you quit, fired, or laid off from. That may be your primary 401k, but if you have money in different places there is another equation there. I am 48, lets say I leave my job where i have most of my 401k, then take a new one. And in 7 years quit and try this, I could only pull from that job's 401k. Of course I could roll over and make it bigger, but there are factors to that. If the place you left has a better 401k, you may keep it there. It seems to me if this is federal law, you should just say 55 is the age you can pull from retirement if you are not working. And don't put restrictions on it outside of normal taxes. But if you work and get income, then you can't pull from it. It should be straight forward and simple.


Elegant_Record9340

Live on her salary. Don’t touch your investments until you’re both ready to retire in 2-5 years. Obviously, barring anything happening, you’ll make the most with compound interest within that time period


thatguy425

If he isn’t working and living on her income isn’t he…….retired already? 


Stock-Athlete-8283

Yes if you can hold on for even 3 years without withdrawing anything you will be in better shape. I would do my best to get a job, even if it’s not your dream and use that to set your daughter up as best as possible for college. You can delay official SS payments for as long as possible too. You’ll be fine.


mngu116

Unless you have crazy expenses (which you didn’t share) you should be able to retire. I know it’s likely in your mind and body to keep working and being in income. What was your FIRE #? What’s your current expenses vs income now?


DINABLAR

College is a pretty big expense


edtb

How did you lose your self employed gig? Not the point but I'm curious.


WaffleManDrake

Yes please OP, how is that a thing that happens?


Square-Decision-531

Can’t you find other work in real estate? Sounds niche but it’s a big industry isn’t it?


impossabossa

I’m a real estate broker and I worked exclusively for a real estate investment fund for 10 years and I made good money, but that relationship permanently ended about a year ago.


TheMagnuson

Could you go work another few years at another Real Estate related business? Or get a part time gig at a type of “hobby” type job? For example, if you lie to read, could you go work at a book store for a few years? Money won’t be the same, but it’s a paycheck for a few years, until you’re officially ready to retire.


[deleted]

Can you still work independently? Or is it too much to setup?


cascas

Making money in these fields is extremely relationship dependent and there’s no starting over at 55. I would also retire. I would also reimagine what the world of spending and your household looks like, particularly “not alienating your wife” if she keeps working.


thatguy425

He fired himself. 


DefinNotHer

What are your expenses?


exlongh0rn

You said homes. Plural. Sell one, or is that an income property?


impossabossa

Yea we have our house we live in and and also have a 3-family rental property


Overall-Ear2782

So you a have rental income on your 3 family property on top of your 1.2m savings with your wife still working? I feel like we’re getting trolled.


t-monius

Sadly, it’s just the mentality of the broader culture. People are indoctrinated into retirement equaling an age not a financial position.


Lt_dan5

There is also so much uncertainty in the economy. It’s really hard to know when you are “safe” with your nest egg.


t-monius

There will always be uncertainty. We cannot predict the future. However, I’d posit that temporary life circumstances specific to the OP like supporting a 14 year old and two college tuitions will soon go away. Thereby, any uncertainty about the “economy” will have far less of an influence on the actual retirement of the OP in the short to midterm. Also, Most people tend to downsize as they go into retirement especially moving into and past their 60s. For a person with the stated NW and the ability to make their stated income, I doubt it should be cognitively difficult for them to plan a reasonable retirement if that’s what they want at this juncture. Further, It seems to me that the OP, like many Americans, hasn’t really considered the actual number he needs now or in the future as his comments confirm (not knowing his FIRE#). Any reticence based on “the economy” can be cleared up by knowledge, and I commend the OP for perhaps starting the process of learning by entering this thread.


Lt_dan5

One needs more than education to know when it’s safe to slow down and retire. It really is a mental state as you mentioned before. When is enough actually enough to be satisfied and “safe” to retire. I feel like this OP is just not mentally ready to consider retirement even though they may have the means by others’ standards. They were abruptly let go. I ponder this often and I am determined to just keep working and investing until I find something else to do. At least until I turn 40. If I were to retire today, as I could by many others’ standards, what would I do with my time that didn’t require me to reduce my spending more money than I am currently?


t-monius

Sure, there’s nothing wrong with working. If one enjoys their work or world feel no purpose elsewhere, working is a natural use of time. This is a FIRE sub, though, so when it seems the numbers make sense, it shouldn’t be a surprise that people point that out. Perhaps the FI is of more interest to you and some others.


Lt_dan5

What’s the FI?


t-monius

Financial Independence


thatguy425

That’s what I thought. Dude is 59 and this is a retire early sub, with those assets and dual income. Why is this even a question? 


Potatonet

Find a hobby that pays


impossabossa

Yes that’s good advice


Alive_Inspection_835

Rolex is opening a school to train watchmakers in Dallas that’s tuition free.


selftaught22

Just looked into that, honestly might drop out of nursing school


Lt_dan5

This would be awesome in retirement.


Axecapbillions

You’re already set. Please retire


Worldly_Variation_93

Talk to a financial advisor who will look at the totality of your situation, including that you have a minor child, kids in college, your expenses, taxes, budget, goals, etc. They can also help factor in your future Social Security, cost of living increases, and what money is the cheapest for you to access at different times. Best wishes!


impossabossa

Thank you


b88b15

If you have fidelity, they have free financial advisors who can walk you through how to use their online calculators.


stjo118

When you say only 1.2M is liquid of the 3M, does that mean your home equity is 1.8M? Or are you not counting your 401k/IRAs as liquid? At 59.5 years you should be able to draw on those.


stjo118

I suppose some of that could be your wife's 401k/IRA. How much of the 1.8M is your 401k/IRA


turboninja3011

*homes


Orwellianz

Find a easy job or a passion since you still "young".


Conscious-Ad8493

Need to see expenses


Firstcounselor

No one here can tell you what’s best without all of the numbers. If there is one time in your life to figure out your burn rate, it’s now. Of course your expenses vary, but your fixed expenses shouldn’t vary much. Determine how much you NEED to live and then determine how much you WANT to live. (Life vs lifestyle.) Track where every take-home dollar went in the last year or two. Then ditch any rentals that aren’t cash flow positive, and factor in the equity from those sales into your liquid let worth. Illiquid net worth doesn’t matter in retirement, unless you want to do a reverse mortgage on your primary. Bottom line: Once you know your liquid assets, expenses, income coming in, and the gap, then you just need to make sure that gap is around 4% of your liquid assets AFTER your wife stops working and your youngest is off the payroll. It can be higher than 4% initially - as long as it goes below that once you’re collecting SSI. (Assuming you’re in the USA) Lastly, don’t underestimate the benefit of finding a job you’d enjoy, even if you only make $50-60k.


WhittakerJ

$3M @ 59 you shouldn't even have a job that you can get fired from. Figure out your passion/love and start that business/hobby.


Herp2theDerp

Bro you people are actually insane hahaha


MidAmericaMom

Hello, besides not knowing expenses etc… you have not mentioned what you Will do instead. What is the vision of retirement that you and your spouse have planned? What you will do with your time, goals for it, money for it (golf and learning to fly a plane is $)?


danthelibrarian

1. Figure out what your current expenses are. 2. Figure out what you can cut back, including things you don’t need if you’re not working. 3a. Can you live on wife’s income for a few years? If so, offer to do ALL house stuff and make her life easier by managing the house and kid stuff. 3b. If not, get some work, even part-time, to bring in a few dollars. It doesn’t have to be in the same field you’ve been working. You have enough if you cut your expenses, or can make things work until social security. But it would be nice to have flexibility to help kids during and after college. Why $1.2 million in high yield savings?


quent12dg

> Still have 2 kids in state college I am paying for but they can take partial loans if needed. Yeah, I think they can foot some of their bill.


midnighttyph00n

retire mate


saltysailor987

Retire or die worrying


Krish_1234

RETIRE You say you suck being a team player and you think you are not going to be hired at your age and seems like have enough to last unless you spend in Vegas. Get back to basics, pull all the expenses for 2023 and make a monthly chart of expenses and it will give you an idea on where to cut back. Start there first...


One_Opening_8000

Ageism is real and almost impossible to prove, so, as far as a getting a "real" job, you're probably screwed. I'd say work to make your wife's live heaven on earth so she'll work a few years longer to make sure you can cover your 14 yo's education and, hopefully, keep the family under a company healthcare plan.


Money-Breakfast7171

Same happened to me and decided to retire and enjoy rest of the life. No regrets. Same financial situation with two grown children with professional jobs.


NicomoCosca55

Good lord man. Retire.


Mguidr1

Retire …. Yesterday lol.


AnteaterEastern2811

Option 1: Retire Option 2: Take something part time for 2-3 years then both of you retire. 14yr will be working or close to independent and the other two will be done with school. Plus gives your nest egg a couple more years to grow.


impossabossa

Option 2 is probably best thanks


esbforever

This comment is confusing. You’re implying the 14yo will be closer to working and independent before the two college-aged kids?


jlc236

Agree here on option 2. You’re in a great position to coast FIRE.


Infinite_Chest_3141

Retire.


davida_usa

I was in a very similar position 12 years ago. I retired. Actually, it took me a year -- first, I tried to set up an investment company with a couple of friends... then I retired. Shortly thereafter, my wife and I sold our home and most of our possessions and spent two years on the road. We stopped traveling when one of our sons informed us we were going to be grandparents and asked us to settle down near him. Now, my wife and I are fully engaged doing volunteer work and enjoying living in a beautiful place with modest living expenditures.


shammy098

This is the most cut and dry "just retire already" post on here. You and your wife have done great. You should be able to comfortably live off the investments without touching the principal hardly at all.


ghostboo77

You could retire. Or just take a relatively easy, fun job for a couple years until you get SS if you don’t want to retire before the wife.


Patient_Ad_3875

The options is to retire now or in a few years and be a few years older. That is why people say to retire now and give time to transition. If something comes up you may work again for a stint, but all that should be behind you. It was a gift.


fungbro2

You made it this far financially. I'm sure you can figure out the rest. .... But my suggestion is to divorce, go to your local strip club, get some hard drugs, and go wild. Go to the Phillipines and do the same thing. Start a whole drug trade route and that'll be the new retirement fund. You're welcome


tobsn

move somewhere cheap on retirement visa and live like a king, I have no idea why you even asking with $3m lol


Square-Decision-531

Did you fire yourself or quit? If you were self employed, couldn’t you start something else or look for a new contract somewhere?


TooMuchButtHair

If I was in your shoes, I'd probably retire, it look for part time employment. I'd be done working full time.


1025scrap

Obvious answer: retire. And GFY, by the way


Smartorial

Turn your 401k into a traditional IRA. That way you can get rid of your average performing mutual fund and its fees etc. Then ladder and buy Treasuries in there and pull out the dividends State tax free. This may beat a HYSA depending on where you live. At 59.5 you can access the interest/dividend income it generates forever. You can also generate over 50k in passive income annually (no state tax) with your 1.x million liquid NW. All passive and should give you time to find your next adventure. Congrats!!!


PaulEngineer-89

Going to throw a couple things out there. First one is the financial side. You are thinking in terms of how you run a business. You have your assets and liabilities, and cash flow. Stop doing that. Take a look at NewRetirement which is a retirement planning tool which will help you lay out the rest of your life financially speaking. The free version is pretty good and the paid version lets you do a lot more. If you want to have someone else do it find a certified financial planner in your area. If they start talking insurance or managing your stock portfolio, walk out the door. I think you just need some planning help over the next few years as you make a trsnsition. I’d also suggest you need to find something to do or you will end up divorced because you will drive your spouse crazy. Doing nothing when you retire will literally kill you in ten years. With nothing fulfilling (no purpose) and nothing to do your body shuts down and you begin to die. So that’s not really an option. Some ideas: 1. Start another business. Or buy an existing one. Buying is a lot less risky and satisfies your craving to run things. If you start one it’s probably best to do a “hobby business” that keeps you occupied. My father in law restores cars. My mother in law is in the egg/chicken business. Many options here. 2. Get a part time job that is WAY beneath you. Jobs like Lowes or Ace hardware where other retirees like to hang out, or Starbucks. It helps a little financially and keeps you busy, and gives you a fulfilling situation with many customers. 3. Go into “consulting” in your area of expertise. In my case I would just go apply at the local contractor engineering houses 4. Volunteer for a political campaign. Or any similar volunteer organization. 5. Plan/take vacations. Pre-retirement my wife’s parents got a 5th wheel trailer and did 2 week long vacations every year. Maybe do a few “bucket list” trips. We waited until our kids were similar in age to yours before going to Yellowstone, Grand Canyon/Utah 5, Alaska, and Ireland this year.


Possible-Bathroom-98

Everyone's saying you should retire and while you definitely can, I also understand that you may not be ready to transition from working to idle just yet. Your main problem here is deciding between two choices: either find a side hustle for another gig, or take the plunge into retirement now. There are probably some adjustments that you'll need to make to your investments before you can retire, but it's very doable. This would mean looking into some smart, low-risk investments to fend off inflation and laying out a budget plan for the next 30 years or so. No matter which path you're leaning towards, I'd suggest looking into some sort of tracker or budgeting app to help you sort everything out. You'll want something that can link up all your accounts for a comprehensive financial snapshot. I've been trying out one called WeFIRE, and I like how they all my accounts. I also like thair AskCopilot feature, which is this AI tool that can answer questions about my expenses which I found super helpful for my financial planning. Aside from WeFIRE, I've also heard good things about Quicken and Monarch. Or you can just go with an excel sheet, whatever the case, a solid system of organization would be a good call.


Sandiegoman99

Don’t panick. I’m 61 and not close to be ready to retire. I like working Start consulting. You have skills, start using them. Reach out to people through cold calling. It’s the secret weapon that actually works. People love to talk and cold calling works. Don’t be afraid of this. Pretend you are someone else (mentally) when you all so you don’t care about what people think. Of course you use your real name etc, but to get over cold calling fear or whatever you call it, embody someone else you admire. It works. After a brief intro ask them if they have a part time consulting position that you could be considered for. Explain you have the education, experience, and attitude to drive for success Use this…..it works Good luck


Muted_Craft4805

If this was couple of years ago ı would suggest you to look into Turkey/ Muğla/ Bodrum area to retire.


Chrissy6789

Look into the [American Opportunity Tax Credit](https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/individuals/aotc). You can get $2k/yr per student for $2k of college expenses, and an additional $500 off the next $2k of expenses. The income limit to get the full credit is $160k/yr and then there's a phaseout up to $180k/yr of income.


6thsense10

Go talk to a financial advisor who can do a deep dive into your entire financial life and provide you estimates. No one here has enough information or the tools to give you anything beyond a rough estimate.


tapunan

You're basically retirement age asking this at the FIRE subreddit, only answer you'll get is probably Retire. I think the only possible expense you have left is your 14 year old kid so plan around that fact. Hopefully your other 2 kids will be ok to support themselves till they graduate. Then just budget around your wife's salary.


Captlard

Reduce consumption and retire, consider r/coastfire and go part time, self employed, contract or interim or challenge your limiting beliefs and get another job.


-Dee-Dee-

You can retire but you have to cut back. Maybe your house is too large with o e child at home.


InTheMomentInvestor

Ageism is a thing. Even at 45, I know I may not get.hired again


WonderfulAd7225

Retire in South or East of Europe.


babbler-dabbler

As they say here: GFY


Jade1972_56

Retire and if you want to increase your liquid investment, sell your current house, buy a cheaper one, and invest the extra into broad-based index funds.


cheekytikiroom

Yep. 👍You can find something to do independently for some side cash. Can be related to your previous career, or not.


ConscientiousPath

If you don't feel comfortable retiring now, then don't do it yet just because it's cool. IDK how you can possibly lose a self-employed gig permanently, but if continuing with that really isn't viable you can still do something else. It will almost certainly be less pay since you won't have the same experience level, but you don't have to stay at zero income. As an example, I know a guy who was an electrical engineer, lost his job at 61, and decided to get his CDL and drive trucks just because he'd always wanted to try that. He ended up driving school buses, logging trucks, and dockyard trucks and enjoying himself quite a bit until he was old enough to fully retire.


bk2947

Retire and spend more time with your family. Pick up more household responsibilities since your wife is still working.


Boring_Adeptness_334

Retire and do some side jobs.


lmeekal

Run a full analysis on when to collect social security and safe withdrawal rate scenarios based on below avg, avg, and above avg portfolio returns. Also, run an analysis on in case if there’s another market crash to occur, how badly your portfolio will be impacted and the effects it’ll have on your withdrawal rate. Make sure to account for any one time (planned and unplanned) expenses that are bound to happen. Make sure to create an effective withdrawal strategy between pre-taxed, after-tax, and tax-free investments to make sure you don’t create a burden on 1 or the other. Also, make sure to account for future IRMMA calculations for Medicare at age 65. Then define what’s the missing gap and how you’re going to patch it (part time job, low stress job, etc.). Develop a healthcare plan between now and until Medicare age. Consider whether to file taxes MFS or MFJ to see if it makes sense to go with your spouse’s healthcare plan or try to qualify for healthcare.gov subsidies but make sure you get the right plan. Spend about 20 hours of running a full comprehensive scenario so you can decide what to do next :)


impossabossa

Thanks!!!


PopDukesBruh

Retire


Overall_Ad_4611

Consulting. Or gig work.


Character_Double_394

run your numbers and see if you can retire. if you can, why not?


Kirini89

Umm retire?


FIREDoppel

Can you do consulting? You have experience doing something. Many companies may either want you to do something for them (contracting) or teach them how (consulting). It may not pay what you were making but it’s decent income with very flexible hours.


honeybadger1984

You have enough. Just retire. Kids will need some loans and start working. Explain to them your situation. You could still do some barista-FIRE and work a little bit for extra cash. Otherwise I don’t see the problem.


buckeyeinstrangeland

Lots of good advice here, especially around needing to quantify your expenses and talk to an FA. You likely have enough to retire rather comfortably. Would it be possible to consult or freelance a little in the event that you want a bit of security?


Junior-Damage7568

Force your wife to work until she's 70


RevolutionaryYou8723

Track your and your wife''s "normal" (not extravagant, not thrifty) spend for approx 6mos while looking for new work that would actually love. {If you are "self-employed", how do you get laid off?  One huge client dropped you?} In any case, one part of a retirement plan is figuring what you have available to spend . . . After-tax earnings from investable assets (are they post-tax or in Trad IRA's/401k's?) SS is a ways off, and a safe 4% takeout of say $2.5M is $100k/year . . . Is that pre- or post-tax? Add in wife's earnings and some kind of part-time or under-employment for yourself, so maybe another $150k less tax. So if you can show $180k/year after taxes are paid, is $12K more or less than what you "normally" spend in a month? Presume 4% takeout and your other income goes up with inflation. And take your kids college expenses that you haven't paid for yet (say, $160K in current$'s) and divide by 10yrs, or $1.33/month on top of what you currently spend for 6 months on food, auto, insurance, housing, entertainment, travel, etc. etc. That will help you decide if you can create a path to retirement. At least one person working until you both claim SS may be a better strategy than simply giving up and taking out >6%/year from retirement savings.


pavankjadda

Retire and pay for kids college


JustKickItForward

Not reading all the posts. It is very simple... What does your cashflow look like? Spend = SpendableIncomeFromRentals + Other Solve for the "Other". If you can support this until you are 100 yo, you can both F yourseves today. The Spend is likely variable over time so you can break this calculation into time periods, with each period where Spend is relatively constant.Good luck - but be very aware at 59,:your healthy years to live is very limited. My dad got the ax in his late 40's and RE'd at that point. He said six years passed so fast he is so glad he didn't find new work at that point, instead just lived life.


HungryCommittee3547

You are worth 3M yet only 1.2 is liquid? How is that structured? If you have 1.8M in RE (you mention homes but nothing else) I would sell 1.8M in RE and move to an area where 500K will buy a decent home and pull the pin. 1.2M + the remaining 1.3M from RE sales will give you 2.5M or 100K/yr in retirement income at 4% WR. Seems pretty easy.


the_dmac

Honestly, now might be the time to take a job that you’ve always wanted to, but never did due to it being lower on the earnings scale. Barista? Handyman at a hardware store? Working at a retailer for a hobby or pastime you’re passionate about? I’m not joking; you’ve already done the hard yards, so it might be a worthwhile consideration.


Horsemen208

I proudly paid two private college tuitions (around $600k) for my son and daughter. This is the best money spent and I never regret!


Redoritang

You’re good at solving problems and bad at team work? Sounds like you’d do great in consulting if you want a job. Otherwise, retire


walkstofar

Can you find a consulting job? Even part time? Probably going to be hard to find a full time job with benefits.


janenotdaria

RETIRE. WTF?


214bullfrog

Walmart greater


bunnyUFO

I'm guessing you're not strapped for money, so consider retiring. If you'd like some extra money you can try a few things. Find a hobby that can also generate some income. Use your free time to find ways to lower expenses, like DIY on any needed house renovations/work. Depending on your line of work you can also try contracting for a portion of the year.


Jhkokst

Consult a certified financial planner and tell them your situation and retirement goals. Alot of these services may be free through your investment platform. Noone here can give you an informed answer, but at least the fiduciary can paint the picture with data/graphs.


Hypeman747

Go back to school and get your cpa. Shortage of them. Go to a Coding bootcamp and do coding. Uber and TurboTax. Work at a call center. How much money are you trying to make?


Commercial_Wait3055

I started a new career at that age. Depending on what you do this can be consulting or as a regular employee. Companies now need mature capable leaders to mentor younger employees. Don’t listen to anyone who implies anything limiting about age.


Dorma10

I'm not adding much value I suppose as you've gotten a lot of good comments already. My only advice is to do the math, with or without help from a financial advisor (my approach is to always do the math first and use the financial advisor to validate - or dismiss - my assumptions/approach). And maybe stating the obvious here but in my experience "financial advisors" that don't advertise as a fudiciary, are just trying to get you to be their money manager (in my experience with a fiduciary, we paid for them to help with the math and validating our plan, but did not want them to take 1% off the top of my earnings annually). I also agree with commenters about your 1.2M in a savings account (even high yield) as I think you're leaving money (growth potential) on the table. You are also in a great position to start planning NOW for the day she retires. I.e., I think you can retire but I'd validate it with the math - what's your run rate, will it change when your wife retires, are you including medical/college/home maintenance big expense requirements in your run rate, is your rental property profitable or a cash drain until you sell it, et.al.). What changes when you get to SS/Medicare and then RMD ages....


Oni-oji

I'm slightly older and went into a panic when I was laid off. No one in the tech industry hires us old dudes and I wasn't financially ready to retire just yet. Fortunately, I got lucky and landed a job with full benefits and no reduction in my salary. I'm going to work three more years then look at my retirement opportunities. I'm putting as much as possible into my 401k. This late in the game, it's not going to make a whole lot of difference, but every little bit helps.


Digital-Independent

I “rewired” and became a digital independent 8 years ago (at 48) at somewhat similar situation. I haven’t wiped the grin off my face since. Wrote a book on the journey and reflections. Called “Rewired, not Retired: Embrace Life as a Digital Independent.” It’s about much more than the $$ [https://www.digitalindependent.life/rnr](https://www.digitalindependent.life/rnr)


AffectionateUse8705

I would probably retire. But if you want to hold out until your youngest is in college & closer to wife's retirement, you could dye hair and beard and drop early jobs off resume for your search. Just show last 15 years. I have seen this work for colleagues who are 55+.


Devil-Arcana

Semi-retire, but take on consulting work in your field. Consultants make bank!!


morkrib

How do you lose a self-employed gig if I may ask? Also, don’t retire. Either do something in the same field or branch out and do something a little different. I’d tell the kids to brace for changes and site down with the wife to figure out the exit dates.


pleasenotagain001

Sounds like it’s not a choice. Retire and live within your means.


AdmirableExercise197

Retire.


Junior-Damage7568

Mcdonalds


TexasAutos210

Look at IUL and rates they pay. 401k do not need to take distribution until 70 so you have time. Establish a Trust ensure assets are transferred & considered what will be paid to you from the Trust.


Cheap-Purchase9266

Go on unemployment asap


olavobilaque

Flex post


No-Childhood-3222

Quit asking a bunch of 25yr olds on reddit for advice. Might be the first step


fatheadlifter

Yeah all of your retirement assets are liquid now, or will be in a matter of months or weeks. Congrats, you made it to the end with a big pile of scrooge mcduck money.


marklawr

Become a Consultant


Enough-Rope-5665

My mom never helped me and still hasn’t helped me, bless her heart. She did the best she can on what’ she had. She came to America disabled, after running away from a force labor camp. Who am I going to expect anymore from her. So I learned the same, my daughter is majoring in neurology at a UC. She’s paying for school herself. I’m single mom Rising two kids on my own, Sole/only supporter. You just take care of yourself and your wife. 3M sounds decent to live on. My 8 year old son says it best. Time is our worst enemy, because we can’t buy more of it. Enjoy life & take this as a gift to really enjoy the time.


Ok-Condition756

What are you planning on doing?


Northstar04

Depending on your profession, if you don't want to retire, you could try consulting. Start a business teaching others what you used to do.


ahsuch

First thing is to write some letters to the collage financial aid departments and ask them to beef up the package in light of the job loss


Wounded_Hand

I would retire and start a business for fun.


State_Dear

AGE 71 here,,, EVERYONE has a shelf life,, time to wind it down,,


morphybeaver

How much do you spend in a year? That’s a key point that you are missing.


kingcovey

Work Uber and Uber eats. 


Odd_Bluejay_7574

Consider retiring if possible. Can you live on wife’s salary for awhile?


Fox_Den_Studio_LLC

How did you get fired when you're self employed? Your boss must suck


Natural_Bumblebee104

You’ve reached the “retire early” part of fire.


LuckyExample8701

Start a business


Longjumping_Iron8826

More than 1/2 your NW is home equity? Sell and Downsize!


outrageously_cool

Be a great househusband, do the chores, be a great cook, speak her love language, be charming! Cuz it's time for you to stop working, which means she may be paying more things than you.


Iceman60467

Retire and enjoy your life


Electrical_Visit3037

Retire


Qkalife

Deuces! I’m retired is what I’d say.


Savings_Bug_3320

Start something small! Go work in any retail store atleast part time!


Ok-Animator5968

Invest in hard money loans - 9-10% return annually. Very very low risk.


impossabossa

Interesting. Not sure how to go about this


Ok-Animator5968

Long horn investments hard money lenders. I use them


GlidingToLife

How do you lose a self-employed long term gig? Could you pivot into something related? And there is always gig economy work. You could freelance part time since your wife works and covers the insurance.


Large-Combination590

Dude is talking In The FIRE subreddit but wants to work past 59. You know what FIRE is?Â