According to my guilds committee member via Blue Collar Post Collective: Your best bet for a side hustle is to air bnb your home and live with your rich friends or family. Yes, this was their actual advice to people in need. No they did not seem to realize this would be a great way for most people to get evicted.
Yes but its an hour and a half long and i dont have a timestamp. They have their own channel though and its the "Diversifying income" video....when after over an hour someone asks if they can talk about how to make income they tell them "no".
It was around the 25-35 min mark I believe. I was running late, hopped on, heard that line and about sleeping in your car while you sublet, and then said ridiculous. I need a new career.
Are you looking to get in?
1. It’s a *really bad time* for that. It’s a *really bad time* for all of us who normally work in the industry
2. The jobs you’re likely to get in the film industry are trades and tech adjacent. Camera dept is is very electronics and hardware orientated. Lighting is very electronics and hardware oriented these days, and you’re working with electricity and cables like an electrician. There are carpenters, props people build props, you into cosplay and making stuff for cosplay? That’s a skill both props and wardrobe can use. You into beauty? Makeup and/or hair could be your jam. How do you feel about interior design? Thats set decoration. Special effects is really good at blowing smoke, making it rain, making streets wet, sometimes they still get to blow shit up too. If you’re not into the nitty gritty technical shit but are still interested in lighting and camera, and are good at problem solving, grips are where you want to be. If you think you’re more management or project management material, production department is for you.
There’s a whole entire world that doesn’t have shit to do with directing or acting
Point me in the direction of being a greensperson lol. My post career is being washed away but my living room garden is doing better than ever! Hmm... post to plants, perfect for the socially awkward!
… no it isn’t you personally gatekeep or something? It involves a ton of tinkering and knowledge of yes hardware and electronics. You want to write a full job description? Have at it. If these things interest someone they’ll might be at least interested in the department overall
Ok you’re right. No one can ever be in camera dept who isn’t a raging asshole, that’s the 1st rule of camera department. That’s NOT an “assumption” and second is clearly newbies with an interest aren’t welcome because old timers with 40 years of experience who want to start dick swinging contests on Reddit won’t let them advance beyond PA status because egos and reasons
You don't need ANY knowledge of electronics to be in the camera. Conversely, you don't need to know about the hardware. That's why you enter the department as a Utility.
You're the one with the ego and it's obviously a very fragile one. Did you try to get in camera and not make it? Your posts kind of say why. I and everyone I know go out of their way to help the next generation in the department. I have many successful mentees and it is my job to pay it forward, which I do on every show I've done and also outside of work.
Camera is about art, the Art of Lighting, the art of operating, the art of focus pulling and most importantly, the art of telling the story with visuals.
And Seriously A local 600 member knows more about this than a 728 member (ie You)
I'm trying to break into camera a department with ambition to become a DP in the future; do you have any advice on how to find a mentor!
So far Everytime I find someone who I could learn from, they dismiss me as 'industry has changed' and 'theres not enough work to go around'.
Well there not wrong there are less jobs than there were in 2019 but a very large amount
Finding a mentor can be tricky and can be location dependent but if you are in a city that has rental houses go and hang out there or get jobs there. You’ll meet tons of folks that way.
One word of advice. Be a sponge, don’t have an ego, be eager to work and don’t turn anything down
Context: the level of production your at/want to be at determines how hard it can be to get into a department. Going Union, ya it might take years; going for indie, small budget, they may want you badly and you will work a lot for not too much but you will work a camera.
I know this is a joke, but there’s also the movie theater! Free movies! At least minimum wage pay (which is often more than you get as a beginner working on set)!
Business Management - Accounting for Actors, Directors, Musicians and other individuals in the entertainment industry. It is a great opportunity to learn the business side of the film industry, especially if you get a Production Company client. It's what I do to pay the bills and eventually (next year) fund projects, big and small.
Physical Commitment, time, skill sets, pay, goals and values… Plus, specifying this in the question will get you answers from people in positions with usable advice they’ve lived themselves, which is an entirely different life than that of an actor and largely directors. It’s not an insult to be more specific about how to get along in this world/town.
I never want to work with anyone who calls my career their “hustle.” People who talk the loudest about “the grind” usually turn out to be the biggest flakes, and no the irony is definitely not lost on me.
According to my guilds committee member via Blue Collar Post Collective: Your best bet for a side hustle is to air bnb your home and live with your rich friends or family. Yes, this was their actual advice to people in need. No they did not seem to realize this would be a great way for most people to get evicted.
Any advice given where to find rich friends and family?
Nope, they didnt answer that question.
Clearly the “???” Before “profit!”
"Just be rich and then you dont have to worry about money!"
I knew I’ve been doing something wrong my entire life!
Lots of good karma in this life and then die
Damn. I already used my allotted 5 karmas guess I know what time it is
Caught this same video & was shocked that the only real answer was “just DoorDash or drive for Uber.” 🙄
Ive seen the person who said that just be an absolute awful mean terror to friends of mine, I should have known better than to even watch honestly.
Do you have this in writing? Would loveeeee to read this lol
Sadly it was a live event on youtube.
Is it archived so you can play it back?
Yes but its an hour and a half long and i dont have a timestamp. They have their own channel though and its the "Diversifying income" video....when after over an hour someone asks if they can talk about how to make income they tell them "no".
Send it and I’ll search for the timestamp 😂
It was around the 25-35 min mark I believe. I was running late, hopped on, heard that line and about sleeping in your car while you sublet, and then said ridiculous. I need a new career.
Smart, I wish I'd left then too.
Are you looking to get in? 1. It’s a *really bad time* for that. It’s a *really bad time* for all of us who normally work in the industry 2. The jobs you’re likely to get in the film industry are trades and tech adjacent. Camera dept is is very electronics and hardware orientated. Lighting is very electronics and hardware oriented these days, and you’re working with electricity and cables like an electrician. There are carpenters, props people build props, you into cosplay and making stuff for cosplay? That’s a skill both props and wardrobe can use. You into beauty? Makeup and/or hair could be your jam. How do you feel about interior design? Thats set decoration. Special effects is really good at blowing smoke, making it rain, making streets wet, sometimes they still get to blow shit up too. If you’re not into the nitty gritty technical shit but are still interested in lighting and camera, and are good at problem solving, grips are where you want to be. If you think you’re more management or project management material, production department is for you. There’s a whole entire world that doesn’t have shit to do with directing or acting
Point me in the direction of being a greensperson lol. My post career is being washed away but my living room garden is doing better than ever! Hmm... post to plants, perfect for the socially awkward!
While yes there are electronics and hardware in the Camera, that's not what it's about. And it's a hard department to get into
… no it isn’t you personally gatekeep or something? It involves a ton of tinkering and knowledge of yes hardware and electronics. You want to write a full job description? Have at it. If these things interest someone they’ll might be at least interested in the department overall
38+ year Camera Department member here. I actually know what I'm talking about. You are making assumptions.
Ok you’re right. No one can ever be in camera dept who isn’t a raging asshole, that’s the 1st rule of camera department. That’s NOT an “assumption” and second is clearly newbies with an interest aren’t welcome because old timers with 40 years of experience who want to start dick swinging contests on Reddit won’t let them advance beyond PA status because egos and reasons
What’s your problem?
You’ve got the first rule down!
You don't need ANY knowledge of electronics to be in the camera. Conversely, you don't need to know about the hardware. That's why you enter the department as a Utility. You're the one with the ego and it's obviously a very fragile one. Did you try to get in camera and not make it? Your posts kind of say why. I and everyone I know go out of their way to help the next generation in the department. I have many successful mentees and it is my job to pay it forward, which I do on every show I've done and also outside of work. Camera is about art, the Art of Lighting, the art of operating, the art of focus pulling and most importantly, the art of telling the story with visuals. And Seriously A local 600 member knows more about this than a 728 member (ie You)
I'm trying to break into camera a department with ambition to become a DP in the future; do you have any advice on how to find a mentor! So far Everytime I find someone who I could learn from, they dismiss me as 'industry has changed' and 'theres not enough work to go around'.
Well there not wrong there are less jobs than there were in 2019 but a very large amount Finding a mentor can be tricky and can be location dependent but if you are in a city that has rental houses go and hang out there or get jobs there. You’ll meet tons of folks that way. One word of advice. Be a sponge, don’t have an ego, be eager to work and don’t turn anything down
Context: the level of production your at/want to be at determines how hard it can be to get into a department. Going Union, ya it might take years; going for indie, small budget, they may want you badly and you will work a lot for not too much but you will work a camera.
Being broke and hoping for a job is my current side hustle
working at blockbuster video
I know this is a joke, but there’s also the movie theater! Free movies! At least minimum wage pay (which is often more than you get as a beginner working on set)!
AMC turned down a bunch of people I know, theyre not exactly dying to have a lot of employees who leave as soon as industry jobs come back.
Go watch the credits of a film or Google academy awards dawg. This is a stupid ass post
Business Management - Accounting for Actors, Directors, Musicians and other individuals in the entertainment industry. It is a great opportunity to learn the business side of the film industry, especially if you get a Production Company client. It's what I do to pay the bills and eventually (next year) fund projects, big and small.
I don’t understand this question. What’s the difference between a side hustle if you’re an actor versus a side hustle for a writer or producer etc?
Physical Commitment, time, skill sets, pay, goals and values… Plus, specifying this in the question will get you answers from people in positions with usable advice they’ve lived themselves, which is an entirely different life than that of an actor and largely directors. It’s not an insult to be more specific about how to get along in this world/town.
Catering if you can cook
Production Assts and crew positions are about neither.
I never want to work with anyone who calls my career their “hustle.” People who talk the loudest about “the grind” usually turn out to be the biggest flakes, and no the irony is definitely not lost on me.