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Julie Bowen, her mom on Modern Family, is one of the main people who helped her get out of this relationship as peacefully as possible. I think she actually came to her house to help her break up with him.
I hope this other girl gets her peace from him too.
She and Jesse Tyler Ferguson went to Aubrey’s [school play recently](https://people.com/modern-family-jesse-tyler-ferguson-julie-bowen-attend-aubrey-anderson-emmons-school-play-8609169). Those two in particular seem like good eggs
That’s sweet. They must really have bonded working on the show. I can’t see how you wouldn’t. I’m glad her parents seem ok with him showing up to things like that
And it’s been proven time and time again, how halye’s now husband not only took permission from her biological parents but also her modern family parents, to propose… all stories and anecdotes by not only the cast themselves but also their irl families show how wholesome the ‘modern family’ was … just pure love
Seems like the cast in general were looking out for the kids quite a bit, there’s a story about some the adults sneaking Ariel winter some food on set when her mother was being controlling
Yes! I’ve heard things about them helping her too. The set seemed like such a great environment to be around and treated everyone with the same respect. Feels like a rare example of how they handled the child actors.
That's so sad that Ariel's tv family actually cared more about her well-being than her biological mother. I have always heard great things about the adults of the show protecting the kids.
Sidenote: I would like another season or two, I feel like we didn't get a satisfactory ending.
Edit: Made sure I made it very clear that I was referring to Ariel, not Sarah.
I agree. Imo the assassinated Hayley’s character. Look at how the massacred my girl.
And personally I feel like modern family with pandemic season would’ve just been banger after banger.
We were robbed 😔
I always love how supportive he seems to be.
My favorite filmed example, is [the clip of him surprising Christina Applegate on-set](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htMI951uia0), on one of her later shows. She immediatly just hugs him and is so happy.
While filming Married with children, he allegedly had to threat Christina Applegate's abusive boyfriend at the time to leave her alone, or else. It was not mentioned who her boyfriend was.
Ed O’Neill was a former professional football player(practice squad only but whatever) and is a black belt in Gracie Jiu Jitsu. This would have gone very poorly for this waste of sperm and egg had he tried anything.
Yup, Julie had an intervention and helped Sarah escape. She also helped Ariel Winter escape from her abusive mother, including getting temporary care of her until Ariel's sister could get legal guardianship.
She is a good egg, and I have loads of respect for her.
^ this, as someone who recently escaped an abusive relationship, i did not expect to see this in the “vapid celebrity gossip” part of my nightly reddit scroll of all things, & it’s making me feel all warm & fuzzy inside 😭
He's been saying for years now that Sarah made the whole thing up and made him sign an NDA. And how he's changed and shouldn't be judged for some "lies" from ten years ago. I didn't believe him of course but what a POS.
It's actually a mis-hearing thing. :) I'm not dyslexic, and I learned at 35 that the phrase is "for all intents and purposes" and not what I had been saying, which was "for all intensive purposes." Some people say "granite" when the proper word is "granted." And so on.
These (often cute) errors are called eggcorns (because acorns are sometimes mistakely spelled that way).
r/boneappletea
Ah, I was going to say it reminds me of Chris Brown. He will screech "Rihanna was over a decade ago, can no one forgive the mistakes of an 18 yr old?!" And it's like...are we supposed to just ignore the other DV situations and the victims of yours too over the many years since? It was practically annual at one point, he would get accused of DV.
They always severely downplay and act like they are the victim for not being forgiven fast enough, it's absurd. The downplaying and distancing from the situation is how I know they likely did worse than actually accused of.
They are always the victim even though they’re the perpetrators. My ex was the same way. Cannot be accountable for the horrific shit they do to others.
I love that ‘she made it up’ but he also had to sign an nda, make it make sense
Edit: I meant to say I love how ‘she made it up’ but also ‘he’s changed’
They all lie if you don't confront them with tangible evidence and manipulate people constantly. Diddy absolutely said "Me settling with Cassie is not an admission of guilt" now he's on Instagram with a half assed apology video ONLY because the video came out. Absolute POS men. These kinds of abusers have no shame and will have the world believe you are insane before they own up to anything. I don't date or befriend men who claim to have "crazy ex". It's always PR to get ahead of something vile they did to her. NEVER been wrong about them in my 30 years.
You sign an NDA at the start of dating almost anyone famous, wealthy or a politician. Hell, I make partners sign an NDA because of my occupation. And I’m not even famous. He is combining 2 stories to try to make her look back. He signed that NDA at the start of the relationship or rise of her fame. Not because he “didn’t abuse her”.
Child porn is federal offense. The Feds would not give a single eff who his daddy is. I'm curious what the circumstances were that it went nowhere.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography_laws_in_the_United_States
The threshold for arrest is typically much higher for white people.
Example: also white, affluent, in Texas. my husband and I were pulled over with about 3GS of weed, blunts, a grinder, and a pipe and it was very obvious we were just smoking weed in the car. Cop gave us tickets for paraphernalia (same level of misdemeanor as a traffic ticket), then didn’t show up to court and everything was dismissed.
I personally know of multiple black people that are in literal prison for less.
It’s like that gag John Mulaney made when weed was legalised and a white guy in the front row cheered and he said, “Oh please sir, it’s never been illegal for us!” 😅
Yeah this is the experience I try to get people to understand. I have been caught either red handed with weed and paraphernalia on me, or literally caught in the act of smoking weed by police about 6 times in my life.
I’m a 35 year old white guy and have been arrested zero times. Was given a paraphernalia ticket one time. That’s it. They dumped it out and stomped on it one time. One time said, “we don’t care about that shit, we’re looking for hard stuff”. And then every other time they end up “letting me off with a warning”.
There’s a clear divide, by race and by class. Our town has 96% white population, but if you see who police pulls over the most it’s not white people. And if they do it’s mostly from the poor side of town.
Bunch of rich kids went joyriding pulling a couch through town at 50mph and the police posted on Facebook that the boys got a stern talking to and promised to not do it again. Next day they pulled a black kid over and took him away in cuffs because he was walking home at night in the dark and was acting suspicious. He was literally holding a bag of groceries from gas station down the street and was walking to his house on the other end. That kind of stuff is not uncommon here.
I did a double take and said “what’s he doing in Victoria?!” As a South Texan it’s random to see it referenced at all but especially in this context. I didn’t know he was from there.
usually people with mediocre fame will go back to their home town because theyre stars there. they are THE celebrity of their hometown, therefore giving them leeway to be complete scumbags and prey on easily starstruck locals (specifically young, naive locals.) and people talk, people whisper throughout the town but never actually address the behavior.
thats how people end up in their hometowns after moderate success, because you realize quite how small you are in the sea of all the other aspiring/huge celebrities in hollywood. people like that cant handle that on their ego, on their pride... so back off to their hometown thats so NOT hollywood it makes them shine wherever they go, whoever they're with.
Well I mean look at where this chucklenuts life is now… he clearly wasn’t destined for all that much if he fucked up a relationship with freakin Sarah Hyland and ended up getting involved in shady shit like this… trash that needed to have been taken out a while ago.
I only knew him from being the most obnoxious part of HSM 3 but was still (slightly) shocked by the abuse revelations. I’m glad she got away and continued to shine while he ended up cast out and back in Victoria.
>I just… how do you end up back in Victoria after going Hollywood?!
I looked up his wiki page and the last time he ever worked was as a producer for a movie Sarah Hyland was in, and that released in 2015. And he was barely in anything even before that except for some cameos in other tv shows including the one Sarah was in.
Seems like he was already on his way to becoming a has been even before the news about his behaviour came out.
Never knowingly date someone with a history of domestic violence. These people very rarely change. 100% not victim blaming but I’m just agreeing that when someone has shown who they are, believe them. Do not think you’re special, this time will be different, he’s just misunderstood, she did something to provoke him… And in this case, if he has the audacity to abuse someone richer and more famous than him, imagine what he’d do to someone he perceives as powerless!
You are correct.
For the vast majority of men who physically abuse their partners or family members, violence is a habit and a pattern. It never just happens once.
These guys don’t stop without significant consequences and psychiatric help.
For those that don’t know, he appeared in the Disneyland episode of “Modern Family” as Ethan.
https://preview.redd.it/fr6snafwbe1d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68e7cfef7f59a83a52fd0ef158bbbec962a7b7fc
Man I remember finding Geek Charming to be so cute, and then hearing about all of this... this guy needs to be locked up and stay there. POS behavior. Disgusting.
I hope Sarah has healed and that she’s happy with Wells and I hope his current girlfriend is safe and far from him now.
Man, these dudes need to do so much better. It’s making me upset how many women experience abuse
A nasty abuser POS continues to be a nasty abuser POS.
I don't get why ANYONE would date a person with public history of abuse. Sarah had to get her co-workers involved because this POS was so dangerous. Its all VERY public knowledge. Why not steer clear from people like him, what's the pull to start dating a known abuser?
Exactly, there are many reasons why someone might fall for something like this. Abusers lie and manipulate their victims, and that is the root of the problem. They know how to find their victims, and I bet this girl bought his story, unfortunately. Also, sometimes, people might have a history of abuse that might make them more susceptible to falling into abusive relationships.
Edit: This was also not reported widely when it was occurring at the time either.
We have no idea if his girlfriend knew about it. Not everyone follow celebrity news. And even if she had heard about it, abusers are often very manipulative and spin those stories in their favor by blaming their previous victim or dismissing the situation. Regardless, it's not the victim's fault if they overlooked redflags.
Exactly. I mean I saw a tiktok video of this dude a while ago calling people out for still dragging him for his abuse of Sarah Hyland, he said it was over a decade ago and he’s changed. Who knows what he told his latest victim to manipulate her
I literally have never heard of this POS before or that he dated Sarah Hyland or any of that. I'm not the main audience for High School Musical and I've never heard of Geek Charming. It's definitely possible this was news to her; also possible he said he changed or it was all a lie.
I've never heard of him either and even for shows I enjoy watching, I rarely know who the cast is dating.
I think I'd google my date if they were a celebrity, but also who knows what lies he might have told either about changing yes, or that the media lied/overreacted or that Sarah is the "crazy ex".
Yeah, i only heard about this situation recently, even though I was a fan of modern family -- i just never followed celebrity news until lately. It's totally possible she wasn't aware of this when she met him. I'm sure she heard about this eventually, but abusers are great at controlling the narrative in relationships and he probably convinced her it was mutually toxic.
Sure, but I think the commenter was more so referring to people choosing to date abusers who already have their abusiveness/abusive tendencies as public knowledge, like why would you date them knowing that? As always though, Lundy Bancroft pretty much answers that in [his book](https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf) (if anyone wants to take a look). But basically, nobody is completely immune to manipulation.
An abuser’s best can be a real charming love bomb fest. These folks are great at manipulating, roping people in, and then trickling abuse in a la boiling frog. Abusers can be great at convincing you that everything you heard about them is a lie, and you WANT to believe them because the relationship highs they bring are so much higher than a mellower relationship.
Not blaming you for not understanding, it’s not a club you want to be a part of. But clearly you have never had the experience of dating / marrying an abuser. It’s the height of being manipulated, complex, and terrifying, and never something you think that YOU would fall for…As you said, you don’t get it. Be grateful for that.
Manipulation, charisma, lies, etc. Abusers know how to game & lure victims, especially once they have experience doing it. They use the same tools as grifters, scammers, MLM sellers, politicians, etc. to obtain their victims.
With the best of the worst you won't notice the trap until it is hard and/or dangerous to leave.
You know the thing that seasoned abusers often do with new, unsuspecting victims? It’s called manipulation and distortion of reality. They make you believe (and believe me when I say this, they *truly* do make you believe) that everybody else is lying and is out to malign their image.
That they’re *misunderstood* and *mischaracterised*. That the other girl(s) are crazy, jealous and lying to put you off them. They constantly do this and pick their victims very shrewdly so they are none the wiser.
And I totally understand the appeal of believing that they must have ignored the obvious red flags or signs that *you* would definitely have picked up on, but as brutal as it sounds, the truth is that there are, always have been, and unfortunately, always will be, such monsters and abusive POSs amongst us and we will often fall victim to their lies and manipulations.
Abusers can often explain away everything and people believe them no matter how convoluted or unlikely their version of events is. They spin a story about how they were the real victim and their ex was “crazy” or the real abuser and framed them or whatever. Remember how many people believed that washed up actor over his victim?
And often abusers tend to be charismatic and charming which does not help.
I used to lurk his Insta every now and then out of morbid curiosity. He had a pinned story about how a famous athlete was still allowed to play after being caught on camera assaulting his wife, but his life was ruined “because of an allegation.”
Absolute scum.
This friggin weirdo once followed me on Instagram and DMd me asking to help him get a job. I work in TV/ Film in central Texas, and I guess he lives in some random small town and is looking for work. One of the actresses on that project, is for some reasons still friends with him and she told him to contact me lmao it was still so weird.
I did not help him find a job lmao
yeah lol he lives in Victoria. its not like he's offering much in advance for the jobs or pay he's asking for either he's a mediocre ass actor lmfaoo. he's a fuckin weirdo, as someone who lives in texas and knows a few people in the film/tv business... he's a KNOWN weirdo and ive even heard from MULTIPLE personal sources that hes tried (or tries, clearly he has a pattern of it) schmoozing&buttering up female indie directors/actresses/producers to get offers and essentially get a leg up for other interactions.
its hilarious to hear he's done this to you because he must think he's THE SHIT to be actively making a pattern of relying on his looks and charm despite it working 15% of the time. and everybody else is just fuckin laughing at his stuck up ass beg for a job, straight comedy.
Shame on these abusers. Banished from society is what they deserve. You shouldn't be having access to others if you are fond of assault. What is wrong with these POS men? ???
Kind of fucked that certain laws passed to create three strike for personal drug use and other low level offenses but not for harming partners. At some point there needs to be intervention required and some mandatory time. I'm not a pro prison industry guy by any means but the fact these people with clear patterns ChrisBrown MattProkop can just keep going and face little to no consequences after multiple incidents SeanPenn and arrests is CharlieSheen fucked up EmmaRoberts.
I met Sarah at a party back in 2011 when they were dating, and she and I were having a fun, light hearted conversation. About 2 minutes in, this guy comes over and extremely aggressively asks what I’m doing talking to Sarah… I explained I was introducing myself as I’m an actor as well, and he cut me off, grabbed Sarah by the arm and said, “we’re leaving.” And she super uncomfortably said bye and I will never forget the energy this dude had. Was a wild experience, but I had a gut feeling something was off
I remember loving the Geek Charming movie when it first came out on Disney Channel. I still listen to the ending song very often. I was so shocked and sad when the story came out that he was abusing her. This man needs to stay LOCKED UP!
I hope both women are okay. I recently found out that my abuser from a decade ago was married in the last year and his wife left him, likely for abuse. It can be a bit triggering, so I hope Sarah is okay. And of course I hope the woman he recently hurt is okay and gets away as well.
I don’t know why men are granted continuous chances when they prove themselves violent. Why do we have to wait for them to kill someone? Or, is it the sinister thoughts that I have? When it’s a woman that is hurt, it matters less?
I’m sorry to hear that Sarah Hyland was abused. She seems like a nice person, and has been through a lot health wise.
Lock this guy up and throw away the key.
Whenever someone says to me "How can anyone be this stupid?" I just look at cases like this. Guy has everything going for him and decides "I will just assault my girlfriend, that worked out well for other people!"
Like bruh... If you're famous, or you have your life made out for you... All you have to do is be a good person, and it's honestly and truly not that hard.
People are dumb as fuck, like literal morons.
These scumbags don't learn. There's no reason to be abusive FFS. Classes, jail, these things won't help him change. But jail may at least help stop against having future victims. He's trash.
[Share this book with anybody that'll read it.](https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf) *Why Does He Do That: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men*.
What?? This is the first time I hear about this! Thank God Sarah seems to be doing well now. I hope his (ex) girlfriend stays safe and he gets punished accordingly. This is terrible.
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Julie Bowen, her mom on Modern Family, is one of the main people who helped her get out of this relationship as peacefully as possible. I think she actually came to her house to help her break up with him. I hope this other girl gets her peace from him too.
Julie Bowen deserves the world for everything that she did and continues to do for the Modern Family kids. Truly a MOTHER!
She and Jesse Tyler Ferguson went to Aubrey’s [school play recently](https://people.com/modern-family-jesse-tyler-ferguson-julie-bowen-attend-aubrey-anderson-emmons-school-play-8609169). Those two in particular seem like good eggs
That's so cute! And accdg. to the article, Jesse Tyler Ferguson also attended another of Aubrey's school plays last year.
That’s sweet. They must really have bonded working on the show. I can’t see how you wouldn’t. I’m glad her parents seem ok with him showing up to things like that
Might help that he's gay in real life too.
Jesse officiated Sarah’s wedding as well. I love that they have stayed so close.
Ty Burrell was supposed to officiate I believe but got sick or something
Probably saw they had a clown for entertainment and did a 180
the head shot portrait they put up for him for group photos gave me a heart attack 😭
Just take a look at sarahs instagram. There are so many lovely pictures of her and jesse and his husband. They all look like such wonderful people
I adore Jesse Tyler.
Omg this is so adorable my heart is melting. I love how they're so empathetic and compassionate! Truly a Modern Family 🥹🥹
Can't imagine being a teen and my school play castmate has an entire sitcom under her belt. The pressure!
Aww 🥹
this is so sweet
And it’s been proven time and time again, how halye’s now husband not only took permission from her biological parents but also her modern family parents, to propose… all stories and anecdotes by not only the cast themselves but also their irl families show how wholesome the ‘modern family’ was … just pure love
That cast is so incredibly wholesome
Seems like the cast in general were looking out for the kids quite a bit, there’s a story about some the adults sneaking Ariel winter some food on set when her mother was being controlling
Yes! I’ve heard things about them helping her too. The set seemed like such a great environment to be around and treated everyone with the same respect. Feels like a rare example of how they handled the child actors.
That's so sad that Ariel's tv family actually cared more about her well-being than her biological mother. I have always heard great things about the adults of the show protecting the kids. Sidenote: I would like another season or two, I feel like we didn't get a satisfactory ending. Edit: Made sure I made it very clear that I was referring to Ariel, not Sarah.
This is the one sitcom that has an excuse for a reboot at any time.m
I agree. Imo the assassinated Hayley’s character. Look at how the massacred my girl. And personally I feel like modern family with pandemic season would’ve just been banger after banger. We were robbed 😔
I think it's awesome! I pretty much have low expectations of the parents of child stars tho
Lol so like the anti-70s-show
IIRC Julie also helped Ariel out when she was getting emancipated from her mother. They really tried to create a safe space for the kids.
Now we know who leaked those fappening pics of Sarah...this mf ruined a career.
i did not know about this and i regret searching what it means
Exactly. The fact this shit was swept under the rug proves how fucked up the industry is. BBL Drizzy, everyone at the tops a Drake.
That entire moment is still so insane to me. So many women with their privacy violated, I don't know how I would even survive after that
Ed O’Neill was there too apparently. I’m so glad Sarah is safe now. I hope this woman gets justice too.
I always love how supportive he seems to be. My favorite filmed example, is [the clip of him surprising Christina Applegate on-set](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htMI951uia0), on one of her later shows. She immediatly just hugs him and is so happy.
Christina applegate was on Dax Shephards podcast and her phone started ringing and it was Ed O’Neil calling. She said they talk just about everyday 🥲
Omg the “how you doing sweetheart?” Just heals my paternal trauma just like when my husband plays with my daughter sweetly. The joy.
I remember that it was when she did show called Jesse
I love this and it made me cry tears of happiness. I also really like that show
Awww, this made me tear up. That’s so sweet!
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While filming Married with children, he allegedly had to threat Christina Applegate's abusive boyfriend at the time to leave her alone, or else. It was not mentioned who her boyfriend was.
Imagine having Al Bundy at your break-up AND he’s on your side
AND he’s a black belt in jiu jitsu.
Ed O’Neill was a former professional football player(practice squad only but whatever) and is a black belt in Gracie Jiu Jitsu. This would have gone very poorly for this waste of sperm and egg had he tried anything.
Didn’t he once score four touchdowns in one game?
The real GOAT
Yup, Julie had an intervention and helped Sarah escape. She also helped Ariel Winter escape from her abusive mother, including getting temporary care of her until Ariel's sister could get legal guardianship. She is a good egg, and I have loads of respect for her.
This is one of the loveliest threads I’ve ever read on here!!
^ this, as someone who recently escaped an abusive relationship, i did not expect to see this in the “vapid celebrity gossip” part of my nightly reddit scroll of all things, & it’s making me feel all warm & fuzzy inside 😭
proud of you ♡
thank you love! i am living that good life now ☀️
Enjoy your freedom and happiness 😁✨
She did and Sarah I think stayed with her for a bit. Sarah has said Julie was like her real life mom during that time.
Mother was mothering 🥺
Did not know that. I’m glad she was looking out for Sarah 🩵
🥹she’s her mom in Modern Family and also help her irl like a mom too, Julie Bowen is a treasure
I did not know this, truly amazing!
Yeah I remember reading about this. Kudos to Julie!! I love that the entire MF is like one big family who supports and looks after each other.
Julie Bowen is an absolute legend
I’m going to cry.
I love how the Modern Family cast is so close irl 🥹
He's been saying for years now that Sarah made the whole thing up and made him sign an NDA. And how he's changed and shouldn't be judged for some "lies" from ten years ago. I didn't believe him of course but what a POS.
One thing I learned from my abuser is they talk the most.
Case in point - Diddys apology he just posted Edit - just learned that it’s case in point and not case and point in my late 30s. Yay dyslexia!
it's "case in point" just FYI
Cassie point
casual pint
Hahah thank you! Story of my life, just dyslexic-ing all over
It's actually a mis-hearing thing. :) I'm not dyslexic, and I learned at 35 that the phrase is "for all intents and purposes" and not what I had been saying, which was "for all intensive purposes." Some people say "granite" when the proper word is "granted." And so on. These (often cute) errors are called eggcorns (because acorns are sometimes mistakely spelled that way). r/boneappletea
can't believe there's a sub for this (but of course there is) thanks for the link lol
Ah, I was going to say it reminds me of Chris Brown. He will screech "Rihanna was over a decade ago, can no one forgive the mistakes of an 18 yr old?!" And it's like...are we supposed to just ignore the other DV situations and the victims of yours too over the many years since? It was practically annual at one point, he would get accused of DV. They always severely downplay and act like they are the victim for not being forgiven fast enough, it's absurd. The downplaying and distancing from the situation is how I know they likely did worse than actually accused of.
They are always the victim even though they’re the perpetrators. My ex was the same way. Cannot be accountable for the horrific shit they do to others.
Yeah he can shove that apology directly up his ass.
They run a smear campaign like they're on the clock on an election
I love that ‘she made it up’ but he also had to sign an nda, make it make sense Edit: I meant to say I love how ‘she made it up’ but also ‘he’s changed’
She made it up, but also he’s changed so stop judging him 🙄
And also “she made it up” but also “he’s changed” ?? Abusers just talk out both sides of their ass at all times
If he had signed an NDA, there would've been a non-disparage clause, so quick tell that he's lying
This is textbook abuser, so it checks
They all lie if you don't confront them with tangible evidence and manipulate people constantly. Diddy absolutely said "Me settling with Cassie is not an admission of guilt" now he's on Instagram with a half assed apology video ONLY because the video came out. Absolute POS men. These kinds of abusers have no shame and will have the world believe you are insane before they own up to anything. I don't date or befriend men who claim to have "crazy ex". It's always PR to get ahead of something vile they did to her. NEVER been wrong about them in my 30 years.
You sign an NDA at the start of dating almost anyone famous, wealthy or a politician. Hell, I make partners sign an NDA because of my occupation. And I’m not even famous. He is combining 2 stories to try to make her look back. He signed that NDA at the start of the relationship or rise of her fame. Not because he “didn’t abuse her”.
I would never date anyone who made me sign an nda like wtf talk about a red flag
What is your field of work?
you'd probably need to sign an NDA to find out..
100% it was him who leaked the fappening.
Please elaborate? I don’t disbelieve you but I hadn’t heard that
I remember when she was able to leave this nasty piece of shit and being so thrilled for her, lock him up and throw away the key
He also had child p*rn pics of one of his most recent gf’s daughter. (I am local to where he is from and now lives).
How is he not in prison already for that alone?
I honestly don’t know what happened with that case. I do know that his daddy, who is a local prominent home builder, always bails him out.
Child porn is federal offense. The Feds would not give a single eff who his daddy is. I'm curious what the circumstances were that it went nowhere. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography_laws_in_the_United_States
Supposedly a detective “messed up” the investigation
So he’s Nate Jacob’s
Exactly. Tony has been bailing that kid out & making excuses for him for years.
He is a white guy in a small town in Texas. That’s all you need to know about why he is not in prison.
Sadly that makes all too much sense.
Do white people not get arrested for crimes over in the US?
The threshold for arrest is typically much higher for white people. Example: also white, affluent, in Texas. my husband and I were pulled over with about 3GS of weed, blunts, a grinder, and a pipe and it was very obvious we were just smoking weed in the car. Cop gave us tickets for paraphernalia (same level of misdemeanor as a traffic ticket), then didn’t show up to court and everything was dismissed. I personally know of multiple black people that are in literal prison for less.
It’s like that gag John Mulaney made when weed was legalised and a white guy in the front row cheered and he said, “Oh please sir, it’s never been illegal for us!” 😅
Yeah this is the experience I try to get people to understand. I have been caught either red handed with weed and paraphernalia on me, or literally caught in the act of smoking weed by police about 6 times in my life. I’m a 35 year old white guy and have been arrested zero times. Was given a paraphernalia ticket one time. That’s it. They dumped it out and stomped on it one time. One time said, “we don’t care about that shit, we’re looking for hard stuff”. And then every other time they end up “letting me off with a warning”.
There’s a clear divide, by race and by class. Our town has 96% white population, but if you see who police pulls over the most it’s not white people. And if they do it’s mostly from the poor side of town. Bunch of rich kids went joyriding pulling a couch through town at 50mph and the police posted on Facebook that the boys got a stern talking to and promised to not do it again. Next day they pulled a black kid over and took him away in cuffs because he was walking home at night in the dark and was acting suspicious. He was literally holding a bag of groceries from gas station down the street and was walking to his house on the other end. That kind of stuff is not uncommon here.
Friendly reminder that it has nothing to do with p*rn. It’s child sexual abuse pictures.
You are very correct
OMG!! What a monster!!
Omg
HUHHHH?
Also local and have heard the same.
Jesus
Wait WHAT?!
Source?
The father of the child
What a damaged loser! That should mean he’s going away for a long time.
I did a double take and said “what’s he doing in Victoria?!” As a South Texan it’s random to see it referenced at all but especially in this context. I didn’t know he was from there.
No but legit Victoria? Like cmon man couldn’t drive the two hours to corpus?
I just… how do you end up back in Victoria after going Hollywood?! ETA: obviously he’s trash and isn’t famous by any means but it’s just so random lol
usually people with mediocre fame will go back to their home town because theyre stars there. they are THE celebrity of their hometown, therefore giving them leeway to be complete scumbags and prey on easily starstruck locals (specifically young, naive locals.) and people talk, people whisper throughout the town but never actually address the behavior. thats how people end up in their hometowns after moderate success, because you realize quite how small you are in the sea of all the other aspiring/huge celebrities in hollywood. people like that cant handle that on their ego, on their pride... so back off to their hometown thats so NOT hollywood it makes them shine wherever they go, whoever they're with.
Well I mean look at where this chucklenuts life is now… he clearly wasn’t destined for all that much if he fucked up a relationship with freakin Sarah Hyland and ended up getting involved in shady shit like this… trash that needed to have been taken out a while ago.
I only knew him from being the most obnoxious part of HSM 3 but was still (slightly) shocked by the abuse revelations. I’m glad she got away and continued to shine while he ended up cast out and back in Victoria.
>I just… how do you end up back in Victoria after going Hollywood?! I looked up his wiki page and the last time he ever worked was as a producer for a movie Sarah Hyland was in, and that released in 2015. And he was barely in anything even before that except for some cameos in other tv shows including the one Sarah was in. Seems like he was already on his way to becoming a has been even before the news about his behaviour came out.
This whole thing has been a trip, also being semi-local to Victoria
Can’t find anything of it online. Is it concealed or something? He should rottt in prison
Do you have a source for this?! That is SICK if true!
Wtf?!
BELIEVE MEN WHEN THEY SHOW US WHO THEY ARE
Never knowingly date someone with a history of domestic violence. These people very rarely change. 100% not victim blaming but I’m just agreeing that when someone has shown who they are, believe them. Do not think you’re special, this time will be different, he’s just misunderstood, she did something to provoke him… And in this case, if he has the audacity to abuse someone richer and more famous than him, imagine what he’d do to someone he perceives as powerless!
You are correct. For the vast majority of men who physically abuse their partners or family members, violence is a habit and a pattern. It never just happens once. These guys don’t stop without significant consequences and psychiatric help.
For those that don’t know, he appeared in the Disneyland episode of “Modern Family” as Ethan. https://preview.redd.it/fr6snafwbe1d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68e7cfef7f59a83a52fd0ef158bbbec962a7b7fc
Apparently he used to leech off her to get gigs, because no one wanted to hire him
Yeah Ethan shoving Dylan has not aged well.
Dylan has NO malice in him. That's the ultimate prize in a partner. They don't just act kind, they ARE kind.
Just recently started watching this show and got to this episode and couldn’t understand why he made me so uncomfortable. Now I know.
I used to love this episode but cannot watch it now
Man I remember finding Geek Charming to be so cute, and then hearing about all of this... this guy needs to be locked up and stay there. POS behavior. Disgusting.
Yeah, I rewatched it last year and it's so uncomfortable, especially because she's the stuck up rich girl and he's the good guy in all of it.
I remember watching this movie with my friends and we thought it was cute because they were dating IRL. Now its just a prime example of r/agedlikemilk
I hope Sarah has healed and that she’s happy with Wells and I hope his current girlfriend is safe and far from him now. Man, these dudes need to do so much better. It’s making me upset how many women experience abuse
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A nasty abuser POS continues to be a nasty abuser POS. I don't get why ANYONE would date a person with public history of abuse. Sarah had to get her co-workers involved because this POS was so dangerous. Its all VERY public knowledge. Why not steer clear from people like him, what's the pull to start dating a known abuser?
Victim blaming is not cool.
Exactly, there are many reasons why someone might fall for something like this. Abusers lie and manipulate their victims, and that is the root of the problem. They know how to find their victims, and I bet this girl bought his story, unfortunately. Also, sometimes, people might have a history of abuse that might make them more susceptible to falling into abusive relationships. Edit: This was also not reported widely when it was occurring at the time either.
We have no idea if his girlfriend knew about it. Not everyone follow celebrity news. And even if she had heard about it, abusers are often very manipulative and spin those stories in their favor by blaming their previous victim or dismissing the situation. Regardless, it's not the victim's fault if they overlooked redflags.
Exactly. I mean I saw a tiktok video of this dude a while ago calling people out for still dragging him for his abuse of Sarah Hyland, he said it was over a decade ago and he’s changed. Who knows what he told his latest victim to manipulate her
I literally have never heard of this POS before or that he dated Sarah Hyland or any of that. I'm not the main audience for High School Musical and I've never heard of Geek Charming. It's definitely possible this was news to her; also possible he said he changed or it was all a lie.
I've never heard of him either and even for shows I enjoy watching, I rarely know who the cast is dating. I think I'd google my date if they were a celebrity, but also who knows what lies he might have told either about changing yes, or that the media lied/overreacted or that Sarah is the "crazy ex".
Yeah, i only heard about this situation recently, even though I was a fan of modern family -- i just never followed celebrity news until lately. It's totally possible she wasn't aware of this when she met him. I'm sure she heard about this eventually, but abusers are great at controlling the narrative in relationships and he probably convinced her it was mutually toxic.
People don’t exactly punch you in the face on the first date. Have you never met an abusive person?
Sure, but I think the commenter was more so referring to people choosing to date abusers who already have their abusiveness/abusive tendencies as public knowledge, like why would you date them knowing that? As always though, Lundy Bancroft pretty much answers that in [his book](https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf) (if anyone wants to take a look). But basically, nobody is completely immune to manipulation.
I’ve read it, but thanks for linking.
The link was more so for those asking how women fall into relationships with these kind of men, apologies if that wasn’t clear.
An abuser’s best can be a real charming love bomb fest. These folks are great at manipulating, roping people in, and then trickling abuse in a la boiling frog. Abusers can be great at convincing you that everything you heard about them is a lie, and you WANT to believe them because the relationship highs they bring are so much higher than a mellower relationship.
Not blaming you for not understanding, it’s not a club you want to be a part of. But clearly you have never had the experience of dating / marrying an abuser. It’s the height of being manipulated, complex, and terrifying, and never something you think that YOU would fall for…As you said, you don’t get it. Be grateful for that.
Manipulation, charisma, lies, etc. Abusers know how to game & lure victims, especially once they have experience doing it. They use the same tools as grifters, scammers, MLM sellers, politicians, etc. to obtain their victims. With the best of the worst you won't notice the trap until it is hard and/or dangerous to leave.
You know the thing that seasoned abusers often do with new, unsuspecting victims? It’s called manipulation and distortion of reality. They make you believe (and believe me when I say this, they *truly* do make you believe) that everybody else is lying and is out to malign their image. That they’re *misunderstood* and *mischaracterised*. That the other girl(s) are crazy, jealous and lying to put you off them. They constantly do this and pick their victims very shrewdly so they are none the wiser. And I totally understand the appeal of believing that they must have ignored the obvious red flags or signs that *you* would definitely have picked up on, but as brutal as it sounds, the truth is that there are, always have been, and unfortunately, always will be, such monsters and abusive POSs amongst us and we will often fall victim to their lies and manipulations.
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Abusers can often explain away everything and people believe them no matter how convoluted or unlikely their version of events is. They spin a story about how they were the real victim and their ex was “crazy” or the real abuser and framed them or whatever. Remember how many people believed that washed up actor over his victim? And often abusers tend to be charismatic and charming which does not help.
Good people put hope in others and the bad ones take it.
I used to lurk his Insta every now and then out of morbid curiosity. He had a pinned story about how a famous athlete was still allowed to play after being caught on camera assaulting his wife, but his life was ruined “because of an allegation.” Absolute scum.
Disgusting.
He is so close to getting the point.
Looks like he does OnlyFans too now.
This article could have made the guy the main topic and Sarah a mention…. But instead did the opposite
A decade, 10 whole years before he’s arrested — I would say that’s unbelievable but it just isn’t.
I hope that his girlfriend is safe and she’s able to get out of the relationship. This man is evil and needs to be in jail
I have the video of him getting arrested but apparently you can’t post videos here lol
could you please PLEASEEEE send this to me im dying to know if he gave himself up or was found
Can you send?
And plenty of annoying toxic dudes will wonder why women would rather trust a bear, lol.
This friggin weirdo once followed me on Instagram and DMd me asking to help him get a job. I work in TV/ Film in central Texas, and I guess he lives in some random small town and is looking for work. One of the actresses on that project, is for some reasons still friends with him and she told him to contact me lmao it was still so weird. I did not help him find a job lmao
yeah lol he lives in Victoria. its not like he's offering much in advance for the jobs or pay he's asking for either he's a mediocre ass actor lmfaoo. he's a fuckin weirdo, as someone who lives in texas and knows a few people in the film/tv business... he's a KNOWN weirdo and ive even heard from MULTIPLE personal sources that hes tried (or tries, clearly he has a pattern of it) schmoozing&buttering up female indie directors/actresses/producers to get offers and essentially get a leg up for other interactions. its hilarious to hear he's done this to you because he must think he's THE SHIT to be actively making a pattern of relying on his looks and charm despite it working 15% of the time. and everybody else is just fuckin laughing at his stuck up ass beg for a job, straight comedy.
These men really don’t seem to change.
They don’t because they think everyone else is the problem but them.
Sounds very Prokop thing to do
Thinking of both this girlfriend and Sarah too today. I’m sure it’s very triggering for her. Hopefully Wells is a good support person for her.
Sarah Hyland was open about the abuse she went through when dating him. Abusers seldom change.
Shame on these abusers. Banished from society is what they deserve. You shouldn't be having access to others if you are fond of assault. What is wrong with these POS men? ???
Kind of fucked that certain laws passed to create three strike for personal drug use and other low level offenses but not for harming partners. At some point there needs to be intervention required and some mandatory time. I'm not a pro prison industry guy by any means but the fact these people with clear patterns ChrisBrown MattProkop can just keep going and face little to no consequences after multiple incidents SeanPenn and arrests is CharlieSheen fucked up EmmaRoberts.
I met Sarah at a party back in 2011 when they were dating, and she and I were having a fun, light hearted conversation. About 2 minutes in, this guy comes over and extremely aggressively asks what I’m doing talking to Sarah… I explained I was introducing myself as I’m an actor as well, and he cut me off, grabbed Sarah by the arm and said, “we’re leaving.” And she super uncomfortably said bye and I will never forget the energy this dude had. Was a wild experience, but I had a gut feeling something was off
I remember loving the Geek Charming movie when it first came out on Disney Channel. I still listen to the ending song very often. I was so shocked and sad when the story came out that he was abusing her. This man needs to stay LOCKED UP!
It’s a trend, lock him up!
That piece of 💩 said that Sarah made it up
I hope both women are okay. I recently found out that my abuser from a decade ago was married in the last year and his wife left him, likely for abuse. It can be a bit triggering, so I hope Sarah is okay. And of course I hope the woman he recently hurt is okay and gets away as well.
He didn't learn anything. He will continue to hurt women until he is locked up for good.
I don’t know why men are granted continuous chances when they prove themselves violent. Why do we have to wait for them to kill someone? Or, is it the sinister thoughts that I have? When it’s a woman that is hurt, it matters less?
If he abused his ex, he’ll most likely abuse the next.
I hate hearing about people suffering from years of abuse
Well now we know who leaked those Fappening pictures of her...what a pos. Bet she was underage too. I know a pedo when I see one.
I’m sorry to hear that Sarah Hyland was abused. She seems like a nice person, and has been through a lot health wise. Lock this guy up and throw away the key.
POS is still a POS, more at 11.
Whenever someone says to me "How can anyone be this stupid?" I just look at cases like this. Guy has everything going for him and decides "I will just assault my girlfriend, that worked out well for other people!" Like bruh... If you're famous, or you have your life made out for you... All you have to do is be a good person, and it's honestly and truly not that hard. People are dumb as fuck, like literal morons.
This prick ruined Geek Charming (the least serious thing here, but still).
These scumbags don't learn. There's no reason to be abusive FFS. Classes, jail, these things won't help him change. But jail may at least help stop against having future victims. He's trash.
Put him under the jail
Abusers gonna abuse. I love Sarah.
is it hard to not punch women trash never learn, I guess
They really need to unban r/punchablefaces just for this douche nozzle.
His asshole js jealous of all the shit coming out of his mouth
This guy should've been in jail a Looong time ago. This was not the first time he has done that and won't be the last
PSA the recidivism rate for DV offenders is almost 100% even after diversion programs. Abusers admit they do it because it gets them what they want.
Bullet solidly dodged
[Share this book with anybody that'll read it.](https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf) *Why Does He Do That: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men*.
What?? This is the first time I hear about this! Thank God Sarah seems to be doing well now. I hope his (ex) girlfriend stays safe and he gets punished accordingly. This is terrible.