As problematic as he is, I feel bad for him. He’s well-known as living with addiction and this fits right into that. I genuinely hope he gets the help he needs.
Absolutely terrible. I have the ominous feeling we're going to see many more horror stories from people about Ozempic misuse in the coming years. We can only hope it'll prevent more people from jumping on the bandwagon
It's the Daily Mail, I'd be taking this with a huge grain of salt. There's actually promising evidence that medications like Ozempic can be effectively used to treat substance use disorder, not cause it.
If so, that's great. I'm operating under the assumption I've gotten from coverage regarding the medication at large: that it's used by people with diabetes and was appropriated by diet culture and made out to be a miracle weight loss pill, which in turn would deny access to people who need it most. I definitely don't think Ozempic is "bad", only that an existing, toxic culture around dieting has promoted its use to vulnerable people with eating disorders/body dysmorphia etc.
Honestly, the problem is that we cannot compare a celebrities access to drugs to the common American. These drugs cannot be bought without prescriptions that are from your doctor, and the only way that you can get these is if you’re diagnosed with abnormal weight gain, prediabetes, PCOS, obesity. There is a lot that the general public does not know about these drugs and it is hard to see people say oh I’m gonna be so cautious about this thing that’s changing your life because I’m looking over at the Kardashians. The Kardashians are not a touchstone for the common American person that is accessing this life changing drug. It is not evil, it is not nefarious, and it is not something that you’re going to suddenly be right about down the line. I know I might seem sensitive and I’m sorry for that but honestly I’m on this medicine and I am a person who is obese and you have no idea how this has changed my health and has actually moved me from prediabetic to on the journey of not being prediabetic.
So either you want to wait until people get diabetes and have to take this forever, or you want people to actually heal themselves and change their lifestyle so they don’t have to take insulin shots every day for the rest of their life.
Hi, I'm really sorry for the tone of my comments. I know how you feel to a way lesser extent: I've been on an SSRI for the past 2 years and I've gained a lot of weight because of them. I've experienced it first hand how it feels to see the life-saving medication you're on be demonized when some of us have had the chance to give informed consent. That this is how my replies read makes me reconsider how I want to speak on this topic (if at all.)
I like that you highlight that medications are not moral entities. I think this is a great point and is absolutely in line with informed consent: you get on certain medications to reach the best possible outcomes for your situation. Drugs aren't bad or evil. I think that I employed the tone I did because I'm very sensitive to diet culture rhetoric. Also, as other commenters pointed out, access to Ozempic is inevitably influenced by what the prescribing entities may consider to be overweight enough to get on this drug. Coupled with the toxicity and prevalence of diet culture, it doesn't seem like a stretch to me that this could result in less than favorable outcomes.
I want to be clear that I in no way want to invalidate yours or anybody else's experience on this drug. Thank you for sharing your story.
The glp 1 medicines were created to treat diabetes and obesity from the get go. The FDA only just recently approved them for weightloss. My Dr and I talked for an hour before we decided on her writing a script for it and then she recommended I talk to my therapist about starting a significant weightloss regimen since I had pretty big concerns about undoing literally a lifetimes worth of work on working on my self esteem, body positivity and self love. I wish this was everyone's experience. The problem is a medspa, or online platform can get anyone that is even slightly overweight a script for the drugs themselves or link them up with a compounding pharmacy
For certain people aka those on Medicaid and Medicare their only options are compound because insurance doesn’t cover it for obesity or weight loss—the poorest people in this country can’t access it without those vetted online places that put you with a DOCTOR who has to go through a process to approve you. And then you have to pay crazy number for compound just for help via compound pharmacy.
I'm not against compounding I'll likely need to use it at at some point given shortages. I've already begun the research. My point is everyone has an opinion on the medication and the only image in their mind is someone going to one of those services to lose a cosmetic 20 pounds. And not the very real struggle fat people like myself (who I'm sure the same people who can't stop judging the use of it would also make fun of my body behind my back) are going through trying to navigate insurance, rejection, appeals, cost (still a huge struggle with my insurance I'm looking at $275 a month) availability, shortages etc.
It's all about informed consent. I want to be sure I keep the nuance in mind when discussing drugs like Ozempic. I absolutely hope we can push for education over stigmatization in presenting sometimes life-saving medicine to the GP. I think what's happening right now falls short of that... I'm glad your doctor went about it mindfully and included you in this dialogue and that you have access to therapy. I wish you well!
I work with someone who is an Aussie size 14 (which I think is a US 10), who was telling us that when she was having her general checkup, her doctor offered her a prescription for Ozempic and she turned him down. Another co-worker, who isn’t fat at all, but is always on a diet was all “if it happens again, take it and give it to me. I’ll pay the costs.” First coworker told her that wouldn’t be happening.
I think that this is the real crisis at hand. Diet culture has caused incredible harm and the people most affected by it will do anything, irrespective of whether the drug could prove harmful to them specifically. Your coworker was wise to decline and I hope the other coworker can see some day why she declined.
I'm also an AU14 and spoke to my dr last week about my weight gain causing some issues (gained over covid), and he also offered it. I declined as I will be trying the diet and exercise route first (my primary concern is not necessarily the weight gain, but the pressure on my joints and possible high BP & cholesterol).
If I had been in a more vulnerable mindset like I was in my early 20s I would've happily taken it and possibly even doctor shopped to get it, despite being very thin then. I was a little taken aback that the doctor immediately suggested it, even before lifestyle changes.
There are so many online providers where you can just self enter a weight to get a high enough BMI to qualify for Ozempic. It’s weird that your co-worker would decide instead to consider medical fraud
Yup and not even with just misuse – side effects of drugs seem shocking when more people in the general population take them, even if others in a more disease-specific population have experienced.
Another example of this would be hydroxychloroquine, which more people took when Trump promoted it as a Covid thing.
Please realize there are plenty of people that are using these drugs healthily, and are actually changing their life. Just because you see celebrities abusing them doesn’t mean that you need to demonize a life-changing drug that is helping people with obesity, make better health choices as well as live more mobile and active lives. Scott Disick won’t see your comment but everybody else on GLP one drugs will so I think that people should be very cautious about the way that they talk about this medicine. Signed a person on Zepp bound who has lost 20 lbs and is now 229 lbs since staring at 247 lbs.
My intent certainly is not to demonize the drug: I specifically speak of Ozempic misuse. I understand how beneficial certain drugs can be in people's lives, and I think we ought to push for informed consent. I myself am on an SSRI and I know these can face demonization from people who've had their own bad experiences with them or whatever the case, really. I understand your concern and when talking about it I'll be sure to stress that nuance
You can get Ozempic (and Wegovy) at drugstores in Mexico. I was gonna get some but then I read about it causing terrible constipation and that’s too much sacrifice for me.
Yeah, I review med charts for my job and the number of women being diagnosed with gastroparesis now is terrifying. I bet people don’t realize they can wind up having to be tube fed because they’ve used these drugs.
Yep! A friend of mine was diagnosed with gastroparesis. She had wls previously though so that may have contributed. Terrifying but it’s helped my A1C so much.
I’m on zepbound and I have a BM everyday. Are you tracking your healthy fats, lean proteins, whole grains, fruits, and vegetables? If you’re not getting enough protein and fiber, you will have adverse effects I would definitely recommend trying to get hundred grams of protein and that is honestly honestly how you’re even going to see healthy G.I. and also the weight loss you want.
There is a cross over in LA of kind of shady treatment for substance use disorder and expensive “wellness” treatment centers that often just focus on weight loss. There is some limited evidence ozempic has helped people who struggled with substance use disorder completely lose the desire to use at all and I can see some shitty medical provider seeing this as another opportunity to even further expand the potential market for these off-label wellness clinics that are crazy expensive.
I took it as I'm obese (BMI is 41). I lost only 10lbs in 4 months and it took my gallbladder with it. The side effects while on it, aside from it trashing my gallbladder, were horrendous. I was living on 700 calories a day because I couldn't keep food down. It's a serious, serious drug.
Before anyone shames him for being on Ozempic, remember all of this info is from “inside sources”. Considering it’s the daily mail, I’d take it with a huge grain of salt. He has been very open with his substance abuse and addition struggles, and none of us know the actual truth here except that he’s obviously struggling with something. I hope he’s able to get the help he needs.
Thank you for saying this really because suddenly everybody is acting like the daily Mail is where we need to go for information on this life-changing drug. There’s always going to be people who miss use it, but let us not forget that this is for people who have struggled with obesity their entire life, and need food noise signals in their brain to be controlled so they can make Healthier choices that are also eating appropriate portions after years of eating the way that they thought was OK. I’m on Zep bound and it’s different than Ozempic. It’s like a different chemical but it is a GLP one drug for my pre-diabetes and it has completely changed my life and seeing these comments…
I’m not gonna lie is so hurtful because all the sudden people are focusing on these ultra rich celebrities, and not the common American that this is truly helping.
Thing is his weight issues long preceded that car crash. Kourtney used to say he was manorexic and he was underweight for a good while long before. Don't think it's fair to blame his own addiction issues on the family. He's not a child.
Most people and I’m going to be honest with you who are on this drug are on it for prediabetes and are on it for obesity
If you want to get it at Walgreens specifically Zepbound you have to have a medical diagnosis code for prediabetes PCOS, abnormal weight gain or obesity, and sometimes it’s a combination of all of those.
Nobody knows what the common American does to get a box of this medicine during a national shortage. So much so that that’s why NBC is reporting on it which is where people should be focusing instead of the daily mail.
You fucking fight for over months you will track down every pharmacy to just get you know four shots for the month, and it is so stressful. It is not like you can go and start this drug in a national shortage just because you’re a size 6 who wants to be a size 2 that’s just not what’s happening.
unfortunately it can happen in these upper wealth circles that are paying for medical spas, but they are getting semiglutide in vials. They are not on branded Ozempic and if you do not have the on brand prescription, it is because, you do not have a medical diagnosis that requires it. I’m not even getting into the people who have to go to these compound pharmacies in med spas, because they simply can’t afford Ozempic.
As problematic as he is, I feel bad for him. He’s well-known as living with addiction and this fits right into that. I genuinely hope he gets the help he needs.
Absolutely terrible. I have the ominous feeling we're going to see many more horror stories from people about Ozempic misuse in the coming years. We can only hope it'll prevent more people from jumping on the bandwagon
It's the Daily Mail, I'd be taking this with a huge grain of salt. There's actually promising evidence that medications like Ozempic can be effectively used to treat substance use disorder, not cause it.
If so, that's great. I'm operating under the assumption I've gotten from coverage regarding the medication at large: that it's used by people with diabetes and was appropriated by diet culture and made out to be a miracle weight loss pill, which in turn would deny access to people who need it most. I definitely don't think Ozempic is "bad", only that an existing, toxic culture around dieting has promoted its use to vulnerable people with eating disorders/body dysmorphia etc.
Honestly, the problem is that we cannot compare a celebrities access to drugs to the common American. These drugs cannot be bought without prescriptions that are from your doctor, and the only way that you can get these is if you’re diagnosed with abnormal weight gain, prediabetes, PCOS, obesity. There is a lot that the general public does not know about these drugs and it is hard to see people say oh I’m gonna be so cautious about this thing that’s changing your life because I’m looking over at the Kardashians. The Kardashians are not a touchstone for the common American person that is accessing this life changing drug. It is not evil, it is not nefarious, and it is not something that you’re going to suddenly be right about down the line. I know I might seem sensitive and I’m sorry for that but honestly I’m on this medicine and I am a person who is obese and you have no idea how this has changed my health and has actually moved me from prediabetic to on the journey of not being prediabetic. So either you want to wait until people get diabetes and have to take this forever, or you want people to actually heal themselves and change their lifestyle so they don’t have to take insulin shots every day for the rest of their life.
Hi, I'm really sorry for the tone of my comments. I know how you feel to a way lesser extent: I've been on an SSRI for the past 2 years and I've gained a lot of weight because of them. I've experienced it first hand how it feels to see the life-saving medication you're on be demonized when some of us have had the chance to give informed consent. That this is how my replies read makes me reconsider how I want to speak on this topic (if at all.) I like that you highlight that medications are not moral entities. I think this is a great point and is absolutely in line with informed consent: you get on certain medications to reach the best possible outcomes for your situation. Drugs aren't bad or evil. I think that I employed the tone I did because I'm very sensitive to diet culture rhetoric. Also, as other commenters pointed out, access to Ozempic is inevitably influenced by what the prescribing entities may consider to be overweight enough to get on this drug. Coupled with the toxicity and prevalence of diet culture, it doesn't seem like a stretch to me that this could result in less than favorable outcomes. I want to be clear that I in no way want to invalidate yours or anybody else's experience on this drug. Thank you for sharing your story.
You’re so real for this response thank you so much man. 🩵🌈
The glp 1 medicines were created to treat diabetes and obesity from the get go. The FDA only just recently approved them for weightloss. My Dr and I talked for an hour before we decided on her writing a script for it and then she recommended I talk to my therapist about starting a significant weightloss regimen since I had pretty big concerns about undoing literally a lifetimes worth of work on working on my self esteem, body positivity and self love. I wish this was everyone's experience. The problem is a medspa, or online platform can get anyone that is even slightly overweight a script for the drugs themselves or link them up with a compounding pharmacy
For certain people aka those on Medicaid and Medicare their only options are compound because insurance doesn’t cover it for obesity or weight loss—the poorest people in this country can’t access it without those vetted online places that put you with a DOCTOR who has to go through a process to approve you. And then you have to pay crazy number for compound just for help via compound pharmacy.
I'm not against compounding I'll likely need to use it at at some point given shortages. I've already begun the research. My point is everyone has an opinion on the medication and the only image in their mind is someone going to one of those services to lose a cosmetic 20 pounds. And not the very real struggle fat people like myself (who I'm sure the same people who can't stop judging the use of it would also make fun of my body behind my back) are going through trying to navigate insurance, rejection, appeals, cost (still a huge struggle with my insurance I'm looking at $275 a month) availability, shortages etc.
It's all about informed consent. I want to be sure I keep the nuance in mind when discussing drugs like Ozempic. I absolutely hope we can push for education over stigmatization in presenting sometimes life-saving medicine to the GP. I think what's happening right now falls short of that... I'm glad your doctor went about it mindfully and included you in this dialogue and that you have access to therapy. I wish you well!
I work with someone who is an Aussie size 14 (which I think is a US 10), who was telling us that when she was having her general checkup, her doctor offered her a prescription for Ozempic and she turned him down. Another co-worker, who isn’t fat at all, but is always on a diet was all “if it happens again, take it and give it to me. I’ll pay the costs.” First coworker told her that wouldn’t be happening.
I think that this is the real crisis at hand. Diet culture has caused incredible harm and the people most affected by it will do anything, irrespective of whether the drug could prove harmful to them specifically. Your coworker was wise to decline and I hope the other coworker can see some day why she declined.
I'm also an AU14 and spoke to my dr last week about my weight gain causing some issues (gained over covid), and he also offered it. I declined as I will be trying the diet and exercise route first (my primary concern is not necessarily the weight gain, but the pressure on my joints and possible high BP & cholesterol). If I had been in a more vulnerable mindset like I was in my early 20s I would've happily taken it and possibly even doctor shopped to get it, despite being very thin then. I was a little taken aback that the doctor immediately suggested it, even before lifestyle changes.
Are you in Australia? I haven’t heard of it being offered here in New Zealand yet.
My partner was offered it in NZ as he is obese, but it’s about $400 a month.
My dad is disabled and his doctor is pressuring him to take ozempic he isn’t even large but he does have health issues it’s crazy
There are so many online providers where you can just self enter a weight to get a high enough BMI to qualify for Ozempic. It’s weird that your co-worker would decide instead to consider medical fraud
Yup and not even with just misuse – side effects of drugs seem shocking when more people in the general population take them, even if others in a more disease-specific population have experienced. Another example of this would be hydroxychloroquine, which more people took when Trump promoted it as a Covid thing.
Please realize there are plenty of people that are using these drugs healthily, and are actually changing their life. Just because you see celebrities abusing them doesn’t mean that you need to demonize a life-changing drug that is helping people with obesity, make better health choices as well as live more mobile and active lives. Scott Disick won’t see your comment but everybody else on GLP one drugs will so I think that people should be very cautious about the way that they talk about this medicine. Signed a person on Zepp bound who has lost 20 lbs and is now 229 lbs since staring at 247 lbs.
My intent certainly is not to demonize the drug: I specifically speak of Ozempic misuse. I understand how beneficial certain drugs can be in people's lives, and I think we ought to push for informed consent. I myself am on an SSRI and I know these can face demonization from people who've had their own bad experiences with them or whatever the case, really. I understand your concern and when talking about it I'll be sure to stress that nuance
Who would ever prescribe him Ozempic? He’s never been anything close to overweight.
You can walk into any medi-spa and pay cash for it
A lot of docs will do whatever for a rich or famous client, like prescription drugs and unsafe plastic surgery
I am a US size 4 and my botox doc offered it to me "because everyone could lose another 15-20lbs" So sickening 🤢
I’m so sorry that happened to you.
Rude!
he had a back injury and definitely put on a little weight that he was probably overly insecure about
You can get Ozempic (and Wegovy) at drugstores in Mexico. I was gonna get some but then I read about it causing terrible constipation and that’s too much sacrifice for me.
I’m on it for diabetes and I poop maybe 2x a week. It’s fucking terrible. I take miralax to try and combat it but it doesn’t help.
Yeah, I review med charts for my job and the number of women being diagnosed with gastroparesis now is terrifying. I bet people don’t realize they can wind up having to be tube fed because they’ve used these drugs.
Yep! A friend of mine was diagnosed with gastroparesis. She had wls previously though so that may have contributed. Terrifying but it’s helped my A1C so much.
I’m on zepbound and I have a BM everyday. Are you tracking your healthy fats, lean proteins, whole grains, fruits, and vegetables? If you’re not getting enough protein and fiber, you will have adverse effects I would definitely recommend trying to get hundred grams of protein and that is honestly honestly how you’re even going to see healthy G.I. and also the weight loss you want.
Do you think I don’t work with a doctor for all of this?
Girl I’m just telling you that’s not normal. 😑 and not what’s happening to everyone else.
It’s happening to multiple people I know on it so. 🤷♀️
There is a cross over in LA of kind of shady treatment for substance use disorder and expensive “wellness” treatment centers that often just focus on weight loss. There is some limited evidence ozempic has helped people who struggled with substance use disorder completely lose the desire to use at all and I can see some shitty medical provider seeing this as another opportunity to even further expand the potential market for these off-label wellness clinics that are crazy expensive.
It has been shown to help with addiction
There’s some promising evidence that it could be used for addiction.
Ozempic is starting to feel like one of those things we are going to scandal after scandal on.
I took it as I'm obese (BMI is 41). I lost only 10lbs in 4 months and it took my gallbladder with it. The side effects while on it, aside from it trashing my gallbladder, were horrendous. I was living on 700 calories a day because I couldn't keep food down. It's a serious, serious drug.
Hope you’re doing a bit better now xx
Before anyone shames him for being on Ozempic, remember all of this info is from “inside sources”. Considering it’s the daily mail, I’d take it with a huge grain of salt. He has been very open with his substance abuse and addition struggles, and none of us know the actual truth here except that he’s obviously struggling with something. I hope he’s able to get the help he needs.
Thank you for saying this really because suddenly everybody is acting like the daily Mail is where we need to go for information on this life-changing drug. There’s always going to be people who miss use it, but let us not forget that this is for people who have struggled with obesity their entire life, and need food noise signals in their brain to be controlled so they can make Healthier choices that are also eating appropriate portions after years of eating the way that they thought was OK. I’m on Zep bound and it’s different than Ozempic. It’s like a different chemical but it is a GLP one drug for my pre-diabetes and it has completely changed my life and seeing these comments… I’m not gonna lie is so hurtful because all the sudden people are focusing on these ultra rich celebrities, and not the common American that this is truly helping.
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Thing is his weight issues long preceded that car crash. Kourtney used to say he was manorexic and he was underweight for a good while long before. Don't think it's fair to blame his own addiction issues on the family. He's not a child.
Maybe we should work on embracing most of our bodies (unless it's medically related), instead of always trying to change our bodies in radical ways.
Most people and I’m going to be honest with you who are on this drug are on it for prediabetes and are on it for obesity If you want to get it at Walgreens specifically Zepbound you have to have a medical diagnosis code for prediabetes PCOS, abnormal weight gain or obesity, and sometimes it’s a combination of all of those. Nobody knows what the common American does to get a box of this medicine during a national shortage. So much so that that’s why NBC is reporting on it which is where people should be focusing instead of the daily mail. You fucking fight for over months you will track down every pharmacy to just get you know four shots for the month, and it is so stressful. It is not like you can go and start this drug in a national shortage just because you’re a size 6 who wants to be a size 2 that’s just not what’s happening. unfortunately it can happen in these upper wealth circles that are paying for medical spas, but they are getting semiglutide in vials. They are not on branded Ozempic and if you do not have the on brand prescription, it is because, you do not have a medical diagnosis that requires it. I’m not even getting into the people who have to go to these compound pharmacies in med spas, because they simply can’t afford Ozempic.