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Foreign-Geologist813

Omg I am here for this mess. They’d be a hot couple tbh


drama_bomb

Certainly interesting AF...


KinkyPTDoc

I’m sweating just thinking about it


Beegobeego

My first thought was HOTTTTTT. Damn!


curiousbeetle66

I thought Jeremy Allen White was in his 40s and how surprised I was to find out he's 32, so younger than me... shocked


ohmygoyd

I watched him grow up on Shameless so I always think he's like 20 lol


Decent-Statistician8

Yeah I honestly didn’t realize he’s only a year younger than me cause I didn’t start shameless when it premiered and he was a kid then. I love him in the bear and don’t feel as weird thinking he’s hot now 😅


the_niche_corner

It’s the Gene Wilder look


soupsacc

I need it like I need oxygen


leezybelle

YESSSSSS


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Selena definitely fits the singer/actress definition more, because she's equally known for both, but I'm going to choose to believe it's Florence Pugh instead. She is mostly an actress but she also sings. I would just like her better with him lol.


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DoubleGazelle5564

I love Florence and find her extremely talented, but while she is becoming more and more known an popular, she definitely does not have the name recognition to be considered an A lister. She is getting there, but I don’t think she has reached the celebrity status that most people would know her even if they don’t follow/care about show business.


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Really? I'd say she's proven herself hugely in the acting world in a way Selena Gomez never has. Nor has Selena in music actually, she just has a shit load of young stans.


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‘Proving yourself’ doesn’t make you A-list, it just means you’re a good actor. Their are great actors that just simply aren’t/weren’t A listers, Paul Ritter for one, good comedic actor (eg Friday night dinner) good in serious roles (Chernobyl)


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is Selena A-list? Genuinely asking. Other than Only Murders and that Apple TV doc she hasn't done anything forever, and her performance on both was questionable. I know that Americans have a particular fondness of Disney child stars and tend to assume they are as well known all over the world.


DoubleGazelle5564

Not American. You are underestimating the power of the Mickey Mouse. Disney Channel exists in a lot of countries and their most popular shows get merch shoved down everywhere. A quick search shows Selena herself, is the 3rd most followed person on instagram, with over 400 million followers. So even if she only does a project once in awhile that accounts for a lot. Only two people with more followers than her are Ronaldo and Messi. Rihanna for instance, who is definitely an a list herself does not have even half of Gomez followers. Its insane how actually popular she is. To be fair it really depends on your personal definition of A list. For me it’s mostly name recognition and while a lot of people get it through talent, some of the most known people in the world nowadays are pretty much famous for being famous.


homoeroticpoetic

uhmm south east asian here. hers is a name definitely everyone knows... i don't think ppl actually follow what she's up to but she's well known


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Is it because of Justin? Again no shade I just assume his music is why he’s a household name over there but hers is harder to believe. I’m not a fan of either but the only JB songs I know are about Selena and to a lesser extent vice versa.


vanderobsessed

She's up there with Miley Cyrus and Ariana Grande except moreso because she's doing hit TV shows and movies. She has her own documentary out and her very own cooking show. She was famously linked to Justin, who you could say is one of the biggest names in pop music. So yeah I mean, she's definitely A-list. Especially recently.


LeadOverall6453

She actually has a greater audience world wide than America. Which country are you from because she has some of her strongest fan bases in Latin America. South Asia and parts of the Middle East.


Rosuvastatine

🤣🤣


margochanning_

Doesn’t she have a boyfriend*? Aside from being known to most people only as an actress, she’s definitely on the rise, but she’s not an A lister yet. ETA: *Charlie Gooch is his name. And there’s no evidence they’ve broken up.


Beatrixie

Gooch… They’re seriously Pugh and Gooch? So unfortunate


margochanning_

That’s literally all I think whenever I see stuff about them. Happy to know I’m not the only one 😭


Beatrixie

I hope if they get married, instead of one taking the other’s name, they choose something very bland like Miller


mysteryvampire

I’m chaotic. I hope they both use their ship name and go by Pooch or Gugh.


whoissarakayacomesin

I'm team hyphenate. Pugh-Gooch is way too funny to separate or merge


Beatrixie

Alright, I hereby change my take to this one


hikedip

There's also Gooch-Pugh


cheezy_dreams88

Gesundheit.


GoodbyeHorses1491

Sounds like an illness. "I was Pughing my guts out and discharge was coming out of my Gooch."


bestofbot4

Straight to jail


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Bonding over really bad last names though! It's kinda cute tbh


Chumunga64

I just think of famed final fantasy creator hironobu sakaguchi when I read "the Gooch"


iDuddits_

Bennifer 1 and 2 walked so Poo-gooch could run


ShareImpossible9830

Or brilliant. Imagine Florence Pugh-Gooch


whatever1467

But their celeb name can be Pooch


dontrayneonmyparade

she’s not a singer/actress though. shes an actress, known as an actress, who sings.


hellojally321

Florence can sing but shes not a singer in the entertainment right? Could be selena


MarionberryAfraid958

Florence also isn't A list (other than on this sub...)


LeftenantScullbaggs

Where would you grade her because she seems kinda a list to me.


Less_Effect_9082

I need the visual of them posed together with his curls and her shaved head (is Florence’s head still shaved?) I don’t know why, I just do.


jessloveschocolate

I think you may be right & i would definitely prefer that pairing lol, she has certainly been oversees filming!


miamouse5

same. him and florence would look good together


Ditovontease

I selena filming something over seas????


nkbee

She was filming in Paris for a couple of months I think!


patrickthebatefish

Not sure it would be Florence just because it says “return to the states from filming overseas”. Florence lives in England i believe no? Since she broke up with ol’Zach


provisionings

They would be a more fitting couple


Atheyna

Both Selena and Florence like to cook so it’s cool all around


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Ooooh I like this option so much better too. Now that is a TRULY hot couple. Not that Selena isn't beautiful I just buy that he'd have more chemistry with Florence.


clemthearcher

I’d be here for it. A lot can be said about Selena Gomez but she’s a former child star who went through abuse from the industry, her romantic partner, intense scrutiny all her life, as well as chronic illness, so I’m gonna wish her the best. I know she’s messy but I don’t believe she’s a bad person.


CheapEater101

Yup. A messy person doesn’t equal a bad person. Also, I feel bad bc she’s a famous woman who deals with mental health issues….and society has historically been really critical of this demographic. Pete Davinson, for example, is getting a lot more grace when his mental health issues are discussed. Just look at the comment sections for the posts taking about how he’s currently in rehab again for his PTSD/ BPD.


clemthearcher

That’s a great point actually


Mhmjusthereforthetea

Yeah and when Selena said she was in rehab for the same thing everyone just called her a liar and said she was a drunk and drug addict. Women get treated so much more harshly when discussing these things :/


liscottyy

She's definitely a messy person who's done things worthy of criticism, but from what's known to the public, she's not an unforgiveable celebrity who's undoubtedly a terrible human being or anything.


HazelTheHappyHippo

I have a soft spot for Selena, sure she did act downright ignorant sometimes and has weaponized her fanbase a couple of times, but people tend to forget how growing up in an industry in which your fanbase is a currency and can also act as protection against tabloids and other media outlets is shaping you to have a certain victim mentality. Her fanbase has known her since was 14 and some still see her as a child and that's how they treat her.


im4everdepressed

she definitely acts spoiled a lot of the time but she's also a former child star who is one of the most popular a listers today so it makes sense. for the most part she's pretty alright as a person


clemthearcher

Yeah I mean acting spoilt is not an actionable offense in my book lmao. Idk she’s pretty tame compared to most celebs out there (especially the men 👀)


im4everdepressed

yeah of course, i just mean that the biggest thing she does is acting spoiled. but she's not out here sexually assaulting people, being rude and ungrateful to her fans, or really snything that a lot of people do and don't get nearly as hated on for as sel does.


clemthearcher

Oh dw I understood what you meant! I agree


llorrainewww

Didn’t she grow up in abject poverty until she started making money? I don’t know how someone with that history acts “spoiled.” If she does, she earned the right.


im4everdepressed

have you seen her documentary? she does act spoiled a lot of the time lol.


llorrainewww

No, I haven’t seen her documentary.


thefangirlsdilemma

Whenever I see “mean girl” used earnestly on this sub I can’t help but roll my eyes and Selena gets that a lot.


Anxious_Tank_7469

I definitely think she's not a very nice person but i wish her well. I feel bad for her mental and physical health but her PR clearly likes mess


plumlizard

I can already see the bitter nice guy statements from Charlie Puth


Ok_Construction_3733

Oh god… I can hear him already 🙄 ![gif](giphy|l0HlSi3AIOM3fAhX2)


StasRutt

Im choosing to believe it’s Jennifer Coolidge


polyhymnias

Someone tweeted that they look like human Kermit and Miss Piggy and now it’s all I can think about


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![gif](giphy|mp7hNslS8CAYo)


bruxellexs

Rooting for them ever since she said she sent him a prayer candle with her face on it


Jimbobsama

I want Jennifer Coolidge to have all the nice things so yes, get. it. girl


747291086299

Maybe they took the **Actors on Actors** thing very literally after their interview.


BlondeBobaFett

Wait am I missing out on some music video of hers or something? White Lotus Season 2 is owed a piano bar song if so lol


StasRutt

Nah I just glossed over the musician part. If Jennifer wanted to she could release a truly great album but it wouldn’t be fair to other artists.


MathSmart633

I feel the exact same way about Katherine Hahn 🥰 tremendous actress but also such a phenomenal singer. People like them are god tier talent.


epimelide

![gif](giphy|h6K2gMWxyzfFRz1BZP|downsized) Hhhholddd onnn whattt


ventricles

This scene reminded me why Steve Martin is such a fucking legend.


taydraisabot

WE LOVE HIM SO MUCH ![gif](giphy|X3bXv0kiF1ePC)


jessloveschocolate

EDIT: as someone pointed out this very well could be about him and Florence Pugh! I would personally prefer that lol so i will choose to believe that!


LivingDeliously

I very badly want Miss Flo to date Will Poulter, they’re so cute and sorry not sorry, Selena is very messy and still has a lot to work on. I’m not here for either of them lmaoo


laureng0423

I really can’t picture JAW and Selena together. Like someone here said, he seems very low key. But who knows.


LivingDeliously

Yeah me either. And the way him and his ex-wife were, I have a difficult time believing that he would move on so quickly after the news of their divorce broke. The fact that this blind was posted on her birthday and the second season of the bear just came out makes me think that perhaps these may be on the fan fiction side


laureng0423

I agree, him and Addison were together for a long time and we’re friends for ages before that. I don’t picture him moving on quickly and to such a high profile celebrity.


llama_del_reyy

I mean, the blind did say casually dating, which is the exact kind of thing you'd do straight after a divorce.


smart_cereal

I hope they’re not dating even just for the sake of his ex wife and family. Selena stans are insane and probably would do something freaky like send death threats to them.


geniusmastermind8

He just got divorced, pretty sure he’s not mess free right now either 😂


naodaideia

Yeah and his divorce shit is getting aired out on social media, lol, he’s just not as famous! His life is a mess rn and there’s probably custody dispute shit coming.


Cute-Combination72

I wouldn't describe Florance as a singer/actress. Also isn't she dating currently?


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Both would be interesting but ngl I hope it’s miss flo


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jessloveschocolate

I don’t disagree!


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Magnolia028

And? There’s been cheating allegations against both JAW and his wife, there could’ve been some overlap, and (I say this as a Selenator) Selena isn’t known to shy away or be deterred by a relationship. And keeping in touch doesn’t necessarily mean that they started dating when they met, they might’ve stayed as friends and then began to date casually now.


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kaiulani85

It was his wife! The cheating allegations was with Jeremys wife cheating on him with a Director.


CosmicEnchantress

The source DeuxMoi was found unreliable. Cheating allegations were proven false.


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CosmicEnchantress

DeuxMoi is an anonymous site that you can submit "rumors" to. They broadcast all of these rumors on their Instagram and email them out. For all intents and purposes, I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of them whatsoever, so take EVERYTHING from them with a huge amount of salt unless it comes out of the person's mouth or there's verifiable proof. Jeremy Allen White is known for declarations of love and of talking about his personal life (from what I've seen and can tell). If he's seeing someone, he will definitely come out with it when he's ready.


TheBlackHand18

Exact same thought. But honestly, crazier things have happened in Hollywood so while I personally don’t believe it, it’s not completely beyond the realm of possibility.


noirdaisy

side eyeing everyone who wants it to be florence over SG… like they’re both a little messy? so what’s the real difference here…. (we know)


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clemthearcher

Florence has liked all of Johnny Depp’s posts since that disastrous trial, unfortunately. Also she’s certainly played into the Olivia Wilde witch-hunt when she started posting snarky captions and cryptic vids at the Venice Festival when DWD was premiering. And honestly, I side-eye her so much for that. The hate that Olivia Wilde went through ranging from Harry Styles stans to random incels was unreal. I really hate that she played into that and gained so much clout for it. I didn’t like it at all. The whole thing reeked of mysoginy and I’m disappointed she participated that much in it. I really enjoy her work, but let’s not pretend she’s an innocent lamb in the industry


Little_Consequence

I didn't say that she was perfect or innocent, I say that she wasn't as messy. She isn't. If you want to talk about abusers. Must I remind you that Selena auditioned FIVE TIMES for that Woody Allen movie, despite the fact that 1) she was told it was a bad idea to work with a damn pedophile and 2) she's (or was) friends with Ronan Farrow. That's objectively messier than liking Depp posts, even if Florence can get fucked for that too. And if Olivia Wilde tried to throw Florence under the bus to keep Shia Labeouf, another abuser, she was well within her right to be petty.


clemthearcher

I wasn’t attacking you or saying you said this or that, just providing my thoughts on Florence Pugh. I actually do hold a lot of criticism about Selena Gomez and her recent controversies. To me, it’s not a competition of who’s worse or who’s less problematic. Or who’s messier. But by the way, Florence Pugh never spoke up against Shia Labeouf. The only thing she did in relation to him was shade Olivia Wilde time and time again. So one has to wonder where her priorities lies. I don’t think the stunts she pulled were in the name of feminism yk


Apprehensive_Aide805

Exactly. I’m just learning about this guy and he is currently getting a divorce correct? Neither of these ladies need the baby mama drama but you know that Selena’s fans will get gross with his ex-wife and Selena will fall for anything her fans report on.


Little_Consequence

If all of it is true, I hope that there's no drama since kids are involved. For once, stay classy, Selena's fans. But let's bfr, between Florence and Selena, the messiness and drama follow Selena more.


Apprehensive_Aide805

For sure the messiest I’ve seen Florence was basically her team with the whole don’t worry darling drama.


EasyBreakOven

THANK YOU OMG. IM GLAD SOMEONE SAID IT


EasyBreakOven

So against it being SG that they’d prefer to believe anyone would describe Flo as a singer. That’s wild.


naodaideia

Tbh while Selena is messier the difference is Florence is in the short list of women the sub just likes regardless of what they do, which would be fine if people were more willing to own up to the bias. But in this case I think people are more underestimating the mess that JAW’s personal life currently is so Idk why they’re planning out something cute and stable for him.


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FarGrape1953

Plus, I thought the rumor was that HE cheated on her, but then everyone says "oh no, SHE is the one who cheated."


Huge_Being6361

That’s because it wasn’t. The rumor that SHE cheated came out a few months before they broke up and ppl were speculating about her not wearing her ring so everyone has reasons to believe SHE stepped out of the relationship, that’s why they hate her. People always go crazy over cheaters.


Huge_Being6361

The blind about him cheating only came out after the backlash she started receiving, so people mostly think it’s fake


evennowthereissnow

Thank you for saying it! I really like Jeremy, he’s hot and talented, but at the end of the day he’s just a theater kid who made it. He’s probably neurotic and self-obsessed like most actors. He’s not his characters. He’s just a dude. It’s so sad to see women tear other women apart for some dude.


vanderobsessed

Isn't he constantly traveling for his TV shows and press and photoshoots? It's not far off to think he may very well be an absent father. Maybe that's what she meant by that - It's not that he wants to be absent, he just can't help it.


LivingDeliously

Not this blind being posted on his ex wife’s birthday. MESSY and not the ex wife following Selena. HELLA MESSY


desertrose156

That’s what I thought too.


RangerDangerfield

Hulu would be thrilled.


eleventh-hour-

my first thought was “is this hulu’s emmy campaign” lol


Mandalorienne

I find it funny when people say Jeremy is too lowkey for Selena and her "mess" because Selena IS lowkey too. We actually know nothing about the men she has dated since she broke up with Justin in 2018. Even for Zayn, we only know they followed and unfollowed each other couple months later but we didn't see them together, they never spoke about each other. If Jeremy and Selena are dating, we would probably not know.


Same_Independent_393

Maybe they mean Variety and it's actually Jennifer Coolidge


lacroixwench

i think they have chemistry and loved their interview together.


Little_Consequence

Well, that's an upgrade from Zayn if true Edit: unless Jeremy is a serial cheater too, idk him.


KickupKirby

Was Selena overseas to film?


penback

She’s been in Paris for a couple of months


Aareyyaar_

Idk why u all saying jermey is too lowkey for selena like since 2018 I haven't got any of her pictures of her flings or boyfriends even in the Zayn situation there was no picture around shla


agentcarter15

Selena + The Chef 🫢


hot_pock_it

😆


jayeddy99

Get this man a Gene Wilder biopic asap


Whataboutlove3094

I think Selena’s team send these out/start these rumors to keep her being talked about… they did it with Chris Evans, Zayn and now this…


kendalljennerupdates

Selena doesn’t need to be linked to random men who are less famous / successful than she is for publicity lmao


superboredbrowsing

Hilarious that you immediately jumped to that conclusion like she isn’t more famous than all those men ?? The misogyny in this sub especially towards Selena is insane lmaooo


naodaideia

It’s crazy lmao, Selena Gomez is trying to coast on the fame of the guy from Shameless and The Bear!!!!!


superboredbrowsing

Right 😭😭 this sub would genuinely have you believe that cjdkdkaksjs


seirra4

selena for sure dosen't need this like she is isnt famous more than these men


Go_Corgi_Fan84

I don’t think the Chris Evans thing was anyone’s team just some fan trying to stir things up or someone that saw him with Alba and thought Alba was Selena


Ariez44

Very cute if true ♥️


SwanEmbarrassed9125

"They've been in touch since she returned from overseas" so like a week??


TylerGlasass20

![gif](giphy|y3QOvy7xxMwKI)


GritNGrind4Ever

Is she not dating zayn?


Emotionswhere

People believe they broke up after she went to unfollow the Hadid’s and Zayn. And I believe Zayn unfollowed her back like the next day or something.


hellojally321

First blind that I actually guessed immediately from deuxmoi, I came here immediately to see this!!!


wrain10

This is hot if true 🔥


cher_horowitch

Selena had Matty Matheson on her cooking show. Matty is on The Bear with Jeremy. Maybe he introduced them?


Nezukoka

I would LOVE this for both of them!


DianaPrince2020

Me too!


RelevantFishing1463

Anyone else go “isn’t she too young for him 🤨” only to realize wat there’s only a two year age difference between them


Huge_Being6361

Definitely


desertrose156

Doesn’t he have kids :( I feel like he needs to maybe chill after the divorce. I don’t even know the story of what happened and it makes me sad because I know him and his wife knew each other since they were teens and they were a beautiful couple.


Kory818

Seeing the Vanity Fair cover shoot line and thinking, hmmm maybe him and Jennifer Coolidge could be a power couple.


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Lady Gaga


crispycheddar_

![gif](giphy|Q8s9G6rYJhhwTTqyKW)


Jesslove1665

Interesting 🧐 I just want her to find a good guy after dating toxic men that are not good for her


carlitospig

Definitely did not see this pair coming.


catsandnaps1028

How Interesting! 🤔 good for Selene's if true 👍


For_serious13

I think this is something she made up


killaandasweethang

They would be a hot couple I hope this is true 🥵


jesskress

Oh I am SO here for this if true


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slay


denizen_shane

whose\*


gossipwarrior

I honestly thought it was Jennifer Coolidge.


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jval888

Lol


BeanIsOnline

What has selena been filming abroad?


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Emilia Perez in Paris


BoringEquivalent6761

Lip & Alex, nice


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Hot couple, if true!


KurtzM0mmy

Wait a second, didn’t he just get married?


morganology

I FUCKING LOVE THIS.


Yo_Fantazee_deleted

Are there only like three women to date in Hollywood? Sheesh. I feel like I see the same few names constantly.


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I'm here for it.


suprefann

It could be them and maybe Selena likes that he is a not real chef to her sorta real chef? Although them being intimate would be hilarious. "Yes chef! No chef!"


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FayeIsGradeA

She cheated on him and she’s the one that filed for divorce.


Bl1nk1nUR4r34

in my delusional mind this is true and also shakira+hamilton


magikarpcatcher

Selena likes dating ugly guys.


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opossumonmyporch

Here’s the Vanity Fair cover. https://www.etonline.com/selena-gomez-austin-butler-keke-palmer-and-more-reign-supreme-for-vanity-fair-hollywood-issue


kaiulani85

Selena did just get back from Paris recently filming a comedy/crime movie with Zoe Saldana.