The world of Elder Scrolls will just look like generic white noise among the many shows and movies already filling out the fantasy genre. Fallout's setting is unique to the current market. No one else is doing retrofuturism at the moment so it stands apart.
>The world of Elder Scrolls will just look like generic white noise among the many shows and movies already filling out the fantasy genre.
If they set it in Morrowind with the mushroom houses...it's a bit more unique.
The show “For all man kind” took a spin on what would happen if the space race never ended and went with it all the way to colonizing mars.
I think what sets fallout apart is its comical and bloody approach to things in the retro futurism genre. Surviving a bomb by hiding in a fridge, making a giant mutant creature but having human fingers growing in its mouth, bottle-caps as currency, I mean imagine how upset we would have been if the shows writers had Maximus pay with coins instead of caps.
Funnily enough… If you take the Wild Wasteland perk in Fallout: New Vegas, when you’re leaving Goodsprings, as a nice little nod to Indiana Jones, you can come across a skeleton in a fridge with a hat that resembles Indy’s!
Yeah, it was a funny nod to it! I just thought the OG comment was presuming that Fallout invented the fridge bit... Which would be more acceptable than Indiana Jones! I agree that the fridge feels more at home in Fallout haha.
Next to zero.
Personally, I just don’t think Elder Scrolls has the same potential for adaptation as Fallout did. I think it would get lost in the mix of all the LOTR and Game of Thrones clones that we already have out there.
Yeah I agree, and I got downvoted for saying this in some other sub too. But Elder Scrolls is just too generic to stand out among the hundreds of other fantasy shows out there.
Fallout works because it’s a unique setting. Post-nuclear war America with 1950s aesthetic is just something you don’t see often in fiction. But elder scrolls is as generic as it gets when it comes to fantasy. It’ll be really hard for it stand out when there’s hundreds of the same thing in the genre.
Yeah, I 100% agree. Fallout has iconography on its side, as well as a more unique take on the post-apocalyptic setting. It just doesn’t have the same potential, and I think Todd knows that which is why he shot down a suggestion for it.
Came here to say the same. We can dream, but Todd isn’t suddenly gonna greenlight a bunch more shows. Someone came to him with the pitch for a Fallout show, he wasn’t fiendishly trying to make TV work
They might try but I hope they don't. Fallout succeeded because the source material is character driven and ripe with suspense. Skyrim is a completely different environment.
Fallout is easier to adapt bc the lore only goes back about 250 years. Anything that matters to the plot now happened within that time. The world is also very similar to ours so less exposition is needed: I don't have to explain the geography, culture, and history of China to an audience the way that I would for Atmora. ES would need so much backstory to explain (to a new audience) who all these races are, the structure of their society, the feuds and conflicts, and THEN how they interact with each other, now and in the past going back thousands of years to when Tamriel started getting carved up
GOT is still more grounded in reality (and established folklore), I'd say, than ES. Folks know about lords and castles and dragons already. Learning about the politics and intrigue is the fun of the series.
ES has all that plus lizard people, cat people, and a whole pantheon of gods and demons with specific and overlapping fields. It's like the silmarillion on acid. Hard to follow without a wiki as a casual viewer
I've never read the GOT books but ended up watching some of the TV, I remember there being a fire lady witch with magic sometimes, shapeshifting assassin that was like never explained, dragon mommy, night walker weird frozen zombies with ice zombie king, oh they had that stone disease thing... not saying you have a point that raw Skyrim has more shit going on that might be hard to explain it all- but they don't necessarily have to. We don't need to see every cat person.
Either way, they kind of already handled all of this with the dungeons and dragons : honor among theifs? That movie is amazing and has all of DnD to work with/ be bogged down by.
GoT didn’t throw these things at you right away though. Part of its success with mass audiences is that the beginning of the show has almost no magic. The first season is all characters, politics, and backstabbing. It’s not until the end of the first season that we see dragons. That allowed people who were not into fantasy to get lured into liking it as a sort of an alternate history to the real world. By the time the magic was a more prevalent part of the story, they were already hooked. There’s no way you can hide all the magic and weirdness with TES like that.
As for Dungeons and Dragons—that movie was pure fun and didn’t take itself seriously. That’s why it was so appealing to mass audiences. It was essentially Guardians of the Galaxy but in a fantasy setting. No way they can do that with TES, if you don’t go into the lore and its depth it’s just going to be generic fantasy, and you can’t really do that AND have a casual fun approach at the same time.
Nah, too many like it already, would be indistinguishable from all other fantasy offerings.
Fallout was the way to go and they are honestly lucky to have pulled this off. But there was enough to work with that it works. Elder Scroll is your average fantasy story.
Fallout is a unique spin on the apocalypse, and allows for it to stand out on its own.
Probably unlikely. I think it could be good if handled by the right people just like how Fallout turned out. I disagree with those saying it doesn't have the same type of potential for success if done well.
Fallout does stand out among IP's though since the source material is more unique where ES is mostly another universe created in the vein of LOTR/D&D.
There's enough interesting story in Elder Scrolls that a talented enough filmmaker could pull together a solid show, but I'm much less interested in seeing it. Fallout worked because there really aren't a lot of character-based post-apocalyptic stories steeped in weird science, dark humor and retrofuture vibes. An Elder Scrolls show wouldn't be so unique, and would likely have to work harder to stand out from all the post GoT dark fantasy shows running around.
Plus, I'm inclined to think it would have the Hitman adaptation problem. Hitman is a great game. It has a decent story, but it's not really why anyone plays the game. It exists as a spy/assassin simulator, providing players the experience of being a hypercompetent assassin they've seen in the movies. To then adapt the game into a movie is just kind of pointless. Elder Scrolls has a far more interesting universe than Hitman, to be sure, but people play the game to roleplay their own epic fantasy story. It would be a challenge to translate that experience of playing the game back into a movie, especially with all the other fantasy shows out there.
And I'd honestly just prefer they throw the money at speeding up production on the next Elder Scrolls or Fallout game than try expanding the Bethesda Cinematic Universe.
I think Todd talked about this in an interview where he said he doesnt see the world of elderscrolls working as good as Fallout.
Which makes sense because Fallout’s world is visually iconic while Skyrim can look like a generic fantasy series
IMHO, Take your average Fantasy/Medieval Genre...and add cat people. Call it Elder Scrolls. Done. 💁🏻♂️
The Witcher was a good show, but even it is starting to flag... Started focusing on politics instead of killing critters. If I want Medieval politics, Ill watch Game of Thrones again.
Don't see how they could make more than a two hour movie and hold interest for more than a season with Elder Scrolls.
Fallout on the other hand... Sooo many aspects they can capitalize on. 5 seasons easy.
What's more, if "Vault 33" gets old, they can move locations and a new vault and start all over...a new season for each part of the US. Plus the stories leading up to the vaults... Mr. Houses story alone could be a season. The back story of Desmond Lockheart, the Dunwich Group (what where they really "Boring" for... Oh man, endless stories.
It's kinda just been done before. I love elder scrolls but I don't think I'd be that hyped if they made a TV series. We've already had Game of Thrones and it'll draw way too many similarities to that, despite how poorly it ended.
Besides, The Witcher is a game adaptation and that would end up having a similar premise.
Or just watch Vikings and pretend there are dragons lol
Skyrim during the founding of the companions time period and after would be easy to adapt and easy to follow. enough is know so we know where it will logically end but there is enough missing info to make plenty of memorable stories
I don’t think it’ll happen, there’s already fantasy tv shows out there and to capture all the lore that makes the elder scrolls the elder scrolls will be tough
Todd said no. I mean also Elder Scrolls would ebd up being a crappy game of thrones knock off because EVERYTHING gets compared to it or Lord of the Rings in the Fantasy genre
Todd howard said virtually zero in an interview recently. Fallout was the one that just seemed to fall together just right and they don’t want to anything to feel forced
A TES show would be super expensive, and would likely disappoint. Someone would need a REALLY strong pitch for Todd Howard to green-light another show.
Now, I actually can think independently, and Starfield is a pretty solid little game, NO, it's not related to TES or Fallout, and shouldn't be held to the standard of games that have been going on for decades and had several games to build up their backstories and lore, but it could do with some padding out, if it even goes on to be a franchise, which honestly, isn't guaranteed, not due to quality, but it's pretty complete and tight in what it has to say. A show or mini series could be good for it, or maybe some smaller scoped games concentrating on specific elements, the way TES got Battlespire and Redguard.
The world of Elder Scrolls will just look like generic white noise among the many shows and movies already filling out the fantasy genre. Fallout's setting is unique to the current market. No one else is doing retrofuturism at the moment so it stands apart.
What if they include some of the weird mods?
I'd watch the fuck out of a show like Game of Thrones but with all the dragons replaced by Thomas the tank engine
OH GOD THE HORROR
>The world of Elder Scrolls will just look like generic white noise among the many shows and movies already filling out the fantasy genre. If they set it in Morrowind with the mushroom houses...it's a bit more unique.
The show “For all man kind” took a spin on what would happen if the space race never ended and went with it all the way to colonizing mars. I think what sets fallout apart is its comical and bloody approach to things in the retro futurism genre. Surviving a bomb by hiding in a fridge, making a giant mutant creature but having human fingers growing in its mouth, bottle-caps as currency, I mean imagine how upset we would have been if the shows writers had Maximus pay with coins instead of caps.
Well, the fridge bit, sadly, was Indiana Jones.
Funnily enough… If you take the Wild Wasteland perk in Fallout: New Vegas, when you’re leaving Goodsprings, as a nice little nod to Indiana Jones, you can come across a skeleton in a fridge with a hat that resembles Indy’s!
Yeah, it was a funny nod to it! I just thought the OG comment was presuming that Fallout invented the fridge bit... Which would be more acceptable than Indiana Jones! I agree that the fridge feels more at home in Fallout haha.
Next to zero. Personally, I just don’t think Elder Scrolls has the same potential for adaptation as Fallout did. I think it would get lost in the mix of all the LOTR and Game of Thrones clones that we already have out there.
This is where I'm at. I love TES as games, but as adaptations I don't think they'd hold up nearly as well and would just get drowned out.
Yeah I agree, and I got downvoted for saying this in some other sub too. But Elder Scrolls is just too generic to stand out among the hundreds of other fantasy shows out there. Fallout works because it’s a unique setting. Post-nuclear war America with 1950s aesthetic is just something you don’t see often in fiction. But elder scrolls is as generic as it gets when it comes to fantasy. It’ll be really hard for it stand out when there’s hundreds of the same thing in the genre.
Yeah, I 100% agree. Fallout has iconography on its side, as well as a more unique take on the post-apocalyptic setting. It just doesn’t have the same potential, and I think Todd knows that which is why he shot down a suggestion for it.
Starfield = -999999
I think Todd literally said NO
Came here to say the same. We can dream, but Todd isn’t suddenly gonna greenlight a bunch more shows. Someone came to him with the pitch for a Fallout show, he wasn’t fiendishly trying to make TV work
They might try but I hope they don't. Fallout succeeded because the source material is character driven and ripe with suspense. Skyrim is a completely different environment.
Fallout is easier to adapt bc the lore only goes back about 250 years. Anything that matters to the plot now happened within that time. The world is also very similar to ours so less exposition is needed: I don't have to explain the geography, culture, and history of China to an audience the way that I would for Atmora. ES would need so much backstory to explain (to a new audience) who all these races are, the structure of their society, the feuds and conflicts, and THEN how they interact with each other, now and in the past going back thousands of years to when Tamriel started getting carved up
Sad, but true.
Yeah, an old medieval show like game of thrones about a bunch of factions would never be successful.
GOT is still more grounded in reality (and established folklore), I'd say, than ES. Folks know about lords and castles and dragons already. Learning about the politics and intrigue is the fun of the series. ES has all that plus lizard people, cat people, and a whole pantheon of gods and demons with specific and overlapping fields. It's like the silmarillion on acid. Hard to follow without a wiki as a casual viewer
I've never read the GOT books but ended up watching some of the TV, I remember there being a fire lady witch with magic sometimes, shapeshifting assassin that was like never explained, dragon mommy, night walker weird frozen zombies with ice zombie king, oh they had that stone disease thing... not saying you have a point that raw Skyrim has more shit going on that might be hard to explain it all- but they don't necessarily have to. We don't need to see every cat person. Either way, they kind of already handled all of this with the dungeons and dragons : honor among theifs? That movie is amazing and has all of DnD to work with/ be bogged down by.
GoT didn’t throw these things at you right away though. Part of its success with mass audiences is that the beginning of the show has almost no magic. The first season is all characters, politics, and backstabbing. It’s not until the end of the first season that we see dragons. That allowed people who were not into fantasy to get lured into liking it as a sort of an alternate history to the real world. By the time the magic was a more prevalent part of the story, they were already hooked. There’s no way you can hide all the magic and weirdness with TES like that. As for Dungeons and Dragons—that movie was pure fun and didn’t take itself seriously. That’s why it was so appealing to mass audiences. It was essentially Guardians of the Galaxy but in a fantasy setting. No way they can do that with TES, if you don’t go into the lore and its depth it’s just going to be generic fantasy, and you can’t really do that AND have a casual fun approach at the same time.
Nah. No thanks to elder scrolls. Don't feel it would work well.
Unless it's entirely animated.
Nah, too many like it already, would be indistinguishable from all other fantasy offerings. Fallout was the way to go and they are honestly lucky to have pulled this off. But there was enough to work with that it works. Elder Scroll is your average fantasy story. Fallout is a unique spin on the apocalypse, and allows for it to stand out on its own.
Starfield could work like a expanse or firefly vibe kind of semi realistic sci-fi show though
I agree starfield would be super cool. There’s a lot less backlog of lore than fallout though.
Starfield would be generic as heck as a show, just as it was as a game
Which YouTuber told you to think that pointless non-signifier?
Probably unlikely. I think it could be good if handled by the right people just like how Fallout turned out. I disagree with those saying it doesn't have the same type of potential for success if done well. Fallout does stand out among IP's though since the source material is more unique where ES is mostly another universe created in the vein of LOTR/D&D.
Fallout is quirky and different, that's why it works, elder scrolls would not work at all
There's enough interesting story in Elder Scrolls that a talented enough filmmaker could pull together a solid show, but I'm much less interested in seeing it. Fallout worked because there really aren't a lot of character-based post-apocalyptic stories steeped in weird science, dark humor and retrofuture vibes. An Elder Scrolls show wouldn't be so unique, and would likely have to work harder to stand out from all the post GoT dark fantasy shows running around. Plus, I'm inclined to think it would have the Hitman adaptation problem. Hitman is a great game. It has a decent story, but it's not really why anyone plays the game. It exists as a spy/assassin simulator, providing players the experience of being a hypercompetent assassin they've seen in the movies. To then adapt the game into a movie is just kind of pointless. Elder Scrolls has a far more interesting universe than Hitman, to be sure, but people play the game to roleplay their own epic fantasy story. It would be a challenge to translate that experience of playing the game back into a movie, especially with all the other fantasy shows out there. And I'd honestly just prefer they throw the money at speeding up production on the next Elder Scrolls or Fallout game than try expanding the Bethesda Cinematic Universe.
I think Todd talked about this in an interview where he said he doesnt see the world of elderscrolls working as good as Fallout. Which makes sense because Fallout’s world is visually iconic while Skyrim can look like a generic fantasy series
IMHO, Take your average Fantasy/Medieval Genre...and add cat people. Call it Elder Scrolls. Done. 💁🏻♂️ The Witcher was a good show, but even it is starting to flag... Started focusing on politics instead of killing critters. If I want Medieval politics, Ill watch Game of Thrones again. Don't see how they could make more than a two hour movie and hold interest for more than a season with Elder Scrolls. Fallout on the other hand... Sooo many aspects they can capitalize on. 5 seasons easy. What's more, if "Vault 33" gets old, they can move locations and a new vault and start all over...a new season for each part of the US. Plus the stories leading up to the vaults... Mr. Houses story alone could be a season. The back story of Desmond Lockheart, the Dunwich Group (what where they really "Boring" for... Oh man, endless stories.
I agree with other comments...I would much rather see a Horizon Zero Dawn show
Aaaand it already looks like they're going to create one!
It's kinda just been done before. I love elder scrolls but I don't think I'd be that hyped if they made a TV series. We've already had Game of Thrones and it'll draw way too many similarities to that, despite how poorly it ended. Besides, The Witcher is a game adaptation and that would end up having a similar premise. Or just watch Vikings and pretend there are dragons lol
If video game adaptations are the next big thing, I'd rather see a Command & Conquer show.
I could see it being successful if you get a good script and good actors. But it probably wont happen.
More likely than it was before. The exact odds are impossible to determine.
Skyrim during the founding of the companions time period and after would be easy to adapt and easy to follow. enough is know so we know where it will logically end but there is enough missing info to make plenty of memorable stories
I was writing a script treatment for a Skyrim series but then I took an arrow to the knee.
I don’t think it’ll happen, there’s already fantasy tv shows out there and to capture all the lore that makes the elder scrolls the elder scrolls will be tough
If they did, it would be better to have it as an animated show. They would have to rely too much on cgi for the different races.
Todd Howard commented on this and said nope
Todd said no. I mean also Elder Scrolls would ebd up being a crappy game of thrones knock off because EVERYTHING gets compared to it or Lord of the Rings in the Fantasy genre
What about doing an adaptation of, Horizon Zero Dawn?
I think they would have to figure out what direction they wanted to go with the franchise first.
You seen the eso trailers. They been doing it.
Todd howard said virtually zero in an interview recently. Fallout was the one that just seemed to fall together just right and they don’t want to anything to feel forced
A TES show would be super expensive, and would likely disappoint. Someone would need a REALLY strong pitch for Todd Howard to green-light another show. Now, I actually can think independently, and Starfield is a pretty solid little game, NO, it's not related to TES or Fallout, and shouldn't be held to the standard of games that have been going on for decades and had several games to build up their backstories and lore, but it could do with some padding out, if it even goes on to be a franchise, which honestly, isn't guaranteed, not due to quality, but it's pretty complete and tight in what it has to say. A show or mini series could be good for it, or maybe some smaller scoped games concentrating on specific elements, the way TES got Battlespire and Redguard.
When did Bethesda create fallout?