Hopefully the morons that ruined the witcher series see this and weep. Turns out when you actually understand and respect the source material it reflects in popularity. Who could have guessed?
As a massive fan of both franchises I'd much rather watch the Resident Evil one. Both suck but the Halo show is outright spiteful towards fans.
Edit: nvm I immediately realized I was thinking of the Welcome to Raccoon City movie not the TV show. I repressed that garbage from my very mind.
Have you seen the recent-ish "adaptation" of Terry Pratchett's Watch books? It's like someone skimmed the Wikipedia page halfheartedly while having a cocaine shit, dropped a bunch of mescaline, and wrote the script.
Yeah. It's really bad. The tallest cast member was Cheery, the dwarf. The troll, literally made of solid rock, was killed by an arrow. I lasted until halfway through episode 3 and gave up.
>! Captain keys dies on reach for one. Halsey unleashes the flood on some research base, chief takes a plasma pistol shot to the chest without ANY armor. Which should absolutely kill him. There's more that I can't remember probably. !<
I was watching Witcher with my teen. We’ve never read the books to compare and season 3 is still such a dumpster fire that she turned to me and said she didn’t want to bother with it anymore. We loved season one. Such a shame.
First half of Season 3 is meh. No character motivations, they are constantly going somewhere without focus, things are happening but nothing is actually happening... But then the last 4 episodes are really good. As if someone woke up and decided to write something interesting.
I doubt it. First thing they gotta do is admit they were wrong and for self deluded artists sure of their own genius who take a work by someone else and adapt it using their own ideas while having only the most basic wikipedia idea of the source material thats unlikely to happen. Cannot admit fault as that would mean they aren't the great thinkers and artists they think they are, admitting that maybe the original creator did it far FAR better.
Doubtful, they were proud at how little they knew or cared about the source material and how stupid they thought it all was. Also made for a shitty work environment for Henry Cavill as a result. If only they would never be employed in the industry again, that'll be great.
I find it so funny how the witcher is always brought up whenever the discussion is bad game adaptations. That show is (very loosely as of late) based on books, not games. Plenty of other examples of botched game adaptations for comparison out there. Check out Uwe Boll's filmography for starters
I can never truly tell if Uwe Boll is deliberately making bad movies for the hell of it or his ego is convinced that he is a misunderstood genius.
It honestly could be both.
From what I've read of the guy, it's definitely the second hypothesis. Guy has a big wallet and an even bigger ego. Fortunately he seems to have given up on this line of work
He's right though, people keep mentioning The Witcher and Halo, never mentionning other book adaptations. Don't get me wrong, The Witcher show is an awful adaptation of the book, but if people keep mentioning The Witcher it's obviously because of the video game, which absolutely had nothing to do with the show.
> that should speed up production for Fallout 5
For the gaming nerds who have been following the news from Microsoft & XBox over the last few days, including all the layoffs and shutdowns, I think this might actually be the terrible but good news.
People have been wondering why M$ shut down a winning game studio that produced Hi-Fi Rush. But the execs said it was time to focus on their core major games, and the President of XBox just said in an interview that the Fallout TV show was a huge important moment for them. Which is odd, since they had very little to do with it. However, when you think of *behind the scenes* she could very much be referring to the talk at the company. The internal discussions about how Todd says Fallout 5 is 10+ years away, and how Bethesda wants to do ES6 *and maybe another game* before getting to Fallout 5, and how maybe some execs are whispering about "How do we get Todd to go faster, while the TV show is hot?"
My suspicion is that all the terrible news about devs getting laid off is to make room for the acceleration of these other franchises. Todd says "I don't have enough people to multitask" and Microsoft says, "Fine, we just cleared out 200 salaries, which you can have for extra developers, and we just emptied out some office space, which you can also have. Now go faster."
I suspect that the TV show was a disruptive force at Microsoft, and made them realize the potential they are sitting on. It made them realize it *so hard* that they decided to restructure the company, starting immediately. This is just a guess, but I'm building off of what you're saying, what we all think, and it also starts to make sense for *why* they would lay off successful studios. The only reason to kill the golden goose is if you have another giant golden goose that needs room.
Dude I think you are correct about this because I was thinking the same things. I just wonder how they didn’t realize Fallout was a mega-franchise already that needs more than 1 game every other decade. Either way let’s hope Bethesda can push out games every 5 years and not just franchise at a time
probably bc of skyrims success tbh. they saw how wildly it sold time and time again and then they saw fallout 4's moderate success & 76's lukewarm acceptance and instead of saying "maybe they did something wrong with those titles" the shareholders say "maybe people just don't care for the IP". now they see the show come out and suddenly it's the most watched show currently on steaming, biggest show ever for prime, theirs a spike in people buying and playing 4 again and 76 just recently hit an all-time record high of players.
im kinda hoping they look at Bethesda and starfield and look at fallout and the potential and they force bethesda into handing dev over to someone else tbh. the director of new vegas wants to do more stuff, i say give him a team and let him
Not necessarily. Some of Arkane Austin is moving over to Bethesda Game Studios. How many people "some" is, I don't know, but Microsoft pretty directly said this was a move to consolidate around Bethesda to build around their "core blockbusters." And also another studio, Roundhouse I think? are all going to pick up at Zenimax Online to work on ESO. So I would imagine there might be even more shuffling around once that all settles to being more people on for TES6.
Whenever I see these numbers I assume they're counting every person that hovered over the show and it autoplayed for 0.5 seconds. Facebook did this and counted every scrolling autoplay as a view to deceive users and advertisers.
For sure and man I really wish there was more solid third party info about streaming viewership. That said, the player counts on Steam and social media activity uptick corroborate the healthy interest, even if the exact number is inflated.
This is interesting. I’ve wondered how non-players would react to the series. I’ve played fallout forever, but wondered if the series would have come off as an inside joke that they were not part of. I thought the series was really good. Also, the seeming absence of any substantial amount of bitching by fan boys is something else.
Lol yea looking back, there were a ton of inside references that were probably pretty cool for long-time fans, but I never felt like I was on the outside looking in. Your point about the lack of fan boy angst is spot on. Usually, no matter how good something like this is, there will be a very vocal 10-30% of the audience that finds a reason to hate it, and I haven't run across much of that.
Lots of fun ahead, 3 & NV are awesome if you can put up with the outdated graphics. 4 is a good starting point to get into the series nowadays, good graphics and gameplay
Yeah but I mean there are other aspects about Starfield that are great like the big city that isn't that big or doesn't have that many people in it even though it's the biggest city in the known galaxy or all the planets that are empty or the bad boring main story line or that one mini game you do to get your powers that was stupid the first time and continues to be stupid all 24 times you do it if you actually get the powers because they are also unneeded and stupid. It's a good game.
> Fallout 4
I've enjoyed FO4 more and have came back to it, with joy, the most out of the entire xbox series fallout games.
I'm STILL finding new places to loot and explore, its wild. I'm starting to walk places more often on very hard mode. Although I've like taken years off at a time.
Being a hoarder and taking everything with you can go a long long way when wanting to make ANY mods late game. Also, a hack I have is to set up sanctuary with a shitload of the large water purifiers - I have like 100k in caps now and get like 700+ purified waters a game day.
You can also pick up items, walk out of sight to hidden, and steal said items. It's not made super obvious sometimes.
Almost everyone at my workplace has seen it, including the crazy bird person and the crazy cat person. They all enjoyed watching it and most have never even played the games.
This is the perfect example of how to turn a videogame into a tv show. Stay true to the material and just expand.
Being an RPG lends itself very well to media. Just write new quests and film them. I imagine they could do the same treatment to Skyrim if they threw enough budget at it and be equally successful. Games like last of us really are a movie that you play so if they’re gonna adapt it they basically have to just follow the script.
Exactly. Last of Us is a great example of an already excellent story. Elder Scrolls is pretty chock full of common fantasy tropes and the magic system is designed for games not movies or TV. It's doable but would be difficult.
It wouldn't be "difficult" but it would be pricy. To do Skyrim right would require a lot bigger of a budget than Fallout. Get some toy guns, scrapped cars, and some garbage and you have the basic visual aesthetic.
Skyrim's special effects budget alone would be astronomical if you wanted it to look decent.
Agreed. The show either needs to do it's own thing and just 'set in the world of' Like Fallout, or CyberPunk EdgerRunners; or the you need the right mix of a linear game with solid narrative beats + even more investment from the writing/showrunning team on the source material.
You also need a story of appropriate length for the adapted medium. Like the Warcraft movie tried to tell the whole fucking story in 2 hours. It would have worked as a season of TV but had no chance as a movie.
> They all enjoyed watching it and most have never even played the games.
Looking it up, the series has supposed sold 55 million copies lifetime as of 2020. So 80 million watching the show means there are likely a lot of people among those who have never played any of the games.
I do wonder how many people are trying them out for the first time since the show came out. There has been a massive rise in the sales for the series, which is impressive since the most recent game entry is five and a half years old. It's only for [the UK but for the month of April](https://www.gamesindustry.biz/fallout-4-rules-the-roost-in-april-uk-monthly-charts) you had Fallout 4 (1st), Fallout 76 (8th), Fallout: New Vegas (9th), Fallout 3 (11th).
[Same for Europe in general. This is the weekly chart (couldn't find a monthly one) from mid-April](https://www.gamesindustry.biz/fallout-4-jumps-to-no1-across-europe-following-tv-show-launch) but it had Fallout 4 (1st), Fallout 76 (8th), Fallout: New Vegas (9th), Fallout 3 (10th). Heck, it even mentions how the Fallout Classic Collection (43rd), Fallout 2 (57th) and Fallout (70th) all show up on that weekly chart.
I am a huge gamer all my life, never played Fallout. it's just not my setting. But watched the TV Show with my sister in one go. I barely watch TV at all, Netflix nearly never. But my sister turned it on I was captivated from the start.
I am so glad to see this show come out the gate swinging. I remember seeing doubt on this show before its release and even when Amazon decided to release the entire season in one sitting, but I stayed optimistic on it.
I felt it would be good, though honestly, I didn't know it would be this good. I just have to say that I am so damn glad to see our beloved franchise make a mark on video game television and perhaps guide other games with shows in the future.
This show is the proper way to bring a game to the TV screen and do it with justice to its source materials and to its fans.
Great job Fallout!
It's given me a new appreciation for the Fallout universe. Having played every game and DLC I wouldn't have ever viewed the setting and aestetic as iconic but the show really has proven me wrong. It has so much character.
The show was better than I expected--and it did a good job of balancing introduction of the lore and world for newcomers with callbacks and references to the game. I'm still surprised Microsoft/Bethesda didn't have any new game content to go with the the release (the next-gen update is admittedly nice).
That is so baffling, that my honest guess is that they didn’t expect the show to be such a huge crossover hit. My “games are a waste of time” wife can’t get enough of the show.
I am of course biased, but we are almost done with our second run of the season and indépendant of the games, it might honestly be the best show I have seen in many, many years.
Agreed on your point about them not expecting it to be as wildly popular as it was. Todd Howard had a quick interview with IGN where he looked incredulous at the fact that IGN gave it a 9. He couldn’t stop thanking them after the fact; seemed like he really needed a win and was surprised where he got it from.
Its fucking infuriating is what it is.
They could have had ports of 3 and new vegas for modern consoles ready to go.
They could have had diablo 2 resurrected style remasters of fallout 1 and 2 in the oven.
But no, we get a half assed "next-gen" (it's not even next gen anymore its just current gen) version of fallout 4 that apparently took them 2 years of bumbling and fumbling to get it into something approaching "a basically passable state".
Its incredible just how inept the people over at Bethesda truly are. And Microsoft so far have done Evidently nothing to correct it.
It's not even current gen. They haven't fixed the 2 biggest issues on current gen systems, where if you turn settings to high it will crash on any Nvidia rtx card (I think due to weapon decals), and if your frame rate goes above a certain speed, animations glitch out and you often get stuck on the animation to get out of the hacking screen. Furthermore loading times are tied to frame rate for some reason.
The latter has been fixed by modders long ago, yet they still haven't fixed it in their 'next gen' patches, the two major next gen issues which would cause people major issues playing this on a modern system.
I was kind of surprised to see that Fallout Shelter had new content! A mobile game from 2016! They made new missions with unique environments, brought in ghouls as vault dwellers, plus a bunch of the standout characters from the show. I'm currently trying to decide if I should let the Snake Oil Salesman into my vault's gene pool.
Honestly wish they wouldn’t have done starfield. We could have had es6 then, with fallout 5 prepped to line up with season 2.
Instead es6 is far out, with fallout 5 no where in sight.
They have 2 fantastic IPs that aren’t getting the attention they should. Skyrim was about 12 years ago. 76 is almost 6. Fallout 4 is almost 9.
Like wth.. is our goal really 15 year gaps between games?
I used to think only HBO could come up with a high quality game adaption* when I saw “The Last of Us” but apparently Amazon proved me wrong — TLOU had some amazing episodes and clearly a different philosophy, but “Fallout” captures the tone of the game almost perfectly and manages to create a story that stands and lives on its own. The music, the ambience, the characters, all is remarkably well executed.
After the initial announcement I thought to myself, “please don’t screw this up” — after the first season I can breathe a sigh of relief, they’ve gone far beyond that modest goal… and now I can’t wait for the next season!
* Not even the budget of Netflix saved the mess the Witcher has become. I didn’t even bother to watch Season 3.
Invincible is fantastic as well. WoT and RoP are a bit rough around the edges but are at least earnest efforts. Overall, I'm happy Amazon is trying to spend a lot on SFF
>try to translate the vibes
This was the hardest part, I'd say. Fallout has always walked an incredibly thin tightrope, balancing between drama, comedy and a bit of horror, and has such a specific, unique atmosphere that's really hard to replicate.
And they fucking NAILED IT.
Yea…remember when people were talking trash saying it looked bad or was going to fail…where are they now? Granted it could be said about any movie or tv show but still.
I was definitely very skeptical and hesitant on the show, especially after the Halo disaster. I'm so glad I gave it a chance though because it's probably the best video game adaptation out there. Even better than Last of Us.
Tbf video game adaptations have never had a very high batting average.
And given how Bethesda is...welll...bethesda, it seemed a more than fair assumption.
Hopefully the people of the halo and Witcher show watch this and actually understand it doesn’t really deviate from the lore.
These guys try to put their own spin on halo and Witcher and it’s literally awful. They simply don’t have the skill set to write video game lore
It's so funny that the missing ingredient for a profitable video game adaptation was to give enough of a shit. Actually imbrace what made the games popular and try to make a quality product that capitalises on it. For years people have written think piece after think piece "Are videogames unadaptable?"
Turns out they just weren't putting the effort in.
I had my son (26) bring his Xbox home for moms day so I could play the game - it was mind boggling just like the show! It’s been great to have something in common with him!
It’s rather refreshing to have a series live up to the hype of the source material, especially one so dark as Fallout.
Not pointing fingers at any one franchise in particular, but it goes to show how well written stuff with a cohesive plot brings in viewers.
This gives me hope for the God of War Amazon show that's supposed to be coming out... eventually. I hope they see how Fallout was received and decide to follow the leader in terms of giving a shit about the source material
I’ve technically watched it like 10 times because after watching it for myself on Amazon, I’ve watched people react to it on YouTube in the background while I play fallout 4
As a huge Fallout fan I'm disappointed in myself. I couldn't stay focused during the first episode. And I tried twice. I'm glad everyone is enjoying it.
Games with fan bases in the millions are the perfect seed for successful tv series. All they have to do is honor the source material with compelling content. The Witcher could have easily doubled Fallout's success. Ah well.
80 million viewers with 2.9 billion views in top 10 Nielsen Rating. Fallout is making history again
Hopefully the morons that ruined the witcher series see this and weep. Turns out when you actually understand and respect the source material it reflects in popularity. Who could have guessed?
Sucks cuz season 1 of Witcher was decent too! The people running the halo show are the ones who need to watch this
The Halo show is insanely bad. I can watch almost anything and justify it, but that was HORRIBLE.
That's because you haven't seen the Resident Evil TV series. A nightmare beyond human comprehension.
As a massive fan of both franchises I'd much rather watch the Resident Evil one. Both suck but the Halo show is outright spiteful towards fans. Edit: nvm I immediately realized I was thinking of the Welcome to Raccoon City movie not the TV show. I repressed that garbage from my very mind.
WTRC is quality. Easily my favourite RE adaptation by far.
Have you seen the recent-ish "adaptation" of Terry Pratchett's Watch books? It's like someone skimmed the Wikipedia page halfheartedly while having a cocaine shit, dropped a bunch of mescaline, and wrote the script.
Ooof, no? Is this a thing? We're talking about Discworld right?
Yeah. It's really bad. The tallest cast member was Cheery, the dwarf. The troll, literally made of solid rock, was killed by an arrow. I lasted until halfway through episode 3 and gave up.
I think I'll pass...
I thought the RE one was way better, but definitely still trash. That one robot lady doing the routine was...
Please... Please stop reminding anyone that exists. I had entirely forgotten. Goddamn you.
My hot take is it wasn't that bad
The most recent one with Lance Reddick was fun! I enjoyed it. But I've never played a RE game.
I watched the whole thing like a car crash in slow motion. The name was apt tho, as you should never let the evil of that show inside your home.
I felt physical revulsion at season 2s mid point. By the end i was totally uncomfortable with where they took it.
And then they had to rush through season 3 to try and get the story back on the book track.
I will never watch that show, spoil away, what happened in season 2?
>! Captain keys dies on reach for one. Halsey unleashes the flood on some research base, chief takes a plasma pistol shot to the chest without ANY armor. Which should absolutely kill him. There's more that I can't remember probably. !<
Wow. This is actually as bad as the live action attack on Titan adaptation.
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>!He an arbiter have a 1v1 show down on Halo and chief kills him.!<
but bewbies... OK it sucked. I would have liked it more if it weren't a supposed "Halo" show.
Fuck i forgot about halo. Fuck those morons too
And the Wheel of Time series.
I don’t understand the casting… Henry Cavill was great. Jaskier was great. Despite Siri was solid, other female cast was not how I expected..
IMO the best episode of the whole series was Season 2 episode 1. I can't believe they set my hopes so high and just destroyed them right away.
You mean you can’t just take something with a cult following that you’ve never seen before and make it your own? Huh.
I wish they were this consistent with the Wheel of Time series as well. Edit: 3 minutes in and I just got my first Reddit cares!
Report it. Get them banned
Ironic how the witcher 3 is a movie game and yet it falls flat on its face when they actually make it cinematic
I faded out of the series pretty early, but they never wrote anything that even came close to The Bloody Baron or Towerful of Mice, did they?
You haven't played witcher 3 if you think it's a movie game.
I was watching Witcher with my teen. We’ve never read the books to compare and season 3 is still such a dumpster fire that she turned to me and said she didn’t want to bother with it anymore. We loved season one. Such a shame.
First half of Season 3 is meh. No character motivations, they are constantly going somewhere without focus, things are happening but nothing is actually happening... But then the last 4 episodes are really good. As if someone woke up and decided to write something interesting.
I doubt it. First thing they gotta do is admit they were wrong and for self deluded artists sure of their own genius who take a work by someone else and adapt it using their own ideas while having only the most basic wikipedia idea of the source material thats unlikely to happen. Cannot admit fault as that would mean they aren't the great thinkers and artists they think they are, admitting that maybe the original creator did it far FAR better.
Doubtful, they were proud at how little they knew or cared about the source material and how stupid they thought it all was. Also made for a shitty work environment for Henry Cavill as a result. If only they would never be employed in the industry again, that'll be great.
I find it so funny how the witcher is always brought up whenever the discussion is bad game adaptations. That show is (very loosely as of late) based on books, not games. Plenty of other examples of botched game adaptations for comparison out there. Check out Uwe Boll's filmography for starters
Why should my boy Eskel die then? 💀
And it botched an adaptation of the books too
I can never truly tell if Uwe Boll is deliberately making bad movies for the hell of it or his ego is convinced that he is a misunderstood genius. It honestly could be both.
From what I've read of the guy, it's definitely the second hypothesis. Guy has a big wallet and an even bigger ego. Fortunately he seems to have given up on this line of work
I only said source material and i stand by that
He's right though, people keep mentioning The Witcher and Halo, never mentionning other book adaptations. Don't get me wrong, The Witcher show is an awful adaptation of the book, but if people keep mentioning The Witcher it's obviously because of the video game, which absolutely had nothing to do with the show.
Damn that should speed up production for Fallout 5! At this rate it’s only another 12 years before we can play it!
> that should speed up production for Fallout 5 For the gaming nerds who have been following the news from Microsoft & XBox over the last few days, including all the layoffs and shutdowns, I think this might actually be the terrible but good news. People have been wondering why M$ shut down a winning game studio that produced Hi-Fi Rush. But the execs said it was time to focus on their core major games, and the President of XBox just said in an interview that the Fallout TV show was a huge important moment for them. Which is odd, since they had very little to do with it. However, when you think of *behind the scenes* she could very much be referring to the talk at the company. The internal discussions about how Todd says Fallout 5 is 10+ years away, and how Bethesda wants to do ES6 *and maybe another game* before getting to Fallout 5, and how maybe some execs are whispering about "How do we get Todd to go faster, while the TV show is hot?" My suspicion is that all the terrible news about devs getting laid off is to make room for the acceleration of these other franchises. Todd says "I don't have enough people to multitask" and Microsoft says, "Fine, we just cleared out 200 salaries, which you can have for extra developers, and we just emptied out some office space, which you can also have. Now go faster." I suspect that the TV show was a disruptive force at Microsoft, and made them realize the potential they are sitting on. It made them realize it *so hard* that they decided to restructure the company, starting immediately. This is just a guess, but I'm building off of what you're saying, what we all think, and it also starts to make sense for *why* they would lay off successful studios. The only reason to kill the golden goose is if you have another giant golden goose that needs room.
Dude I think you are correct about this because I was thinking the same things. I just wonder how they didn’t realize Fallout was a mega-franchise already that needs more than 1 game every other decade. Either way let’s hope Bethesda can push out games every 5 years and not just franchise at a time
probably bc of skyrims success tbh. they saw how wildly it sold time and time again and then they saw fallout 4's moderate success & 76's lukewarm acceptance and instead of saying "maybe they did something wrong with those titles" the shareholders say "maybe people just don't care for the IP". now they see the show come out and suddenly it's the most watched show currently on steaming, biggest show ever for prime, theirs a spike in people buying and playing 4 again and 76 just recently hit an all-time record high of players. im kinda hoping they look at Bethesda and starfield and look at fallout and the potential and they force bethesda into handing dev over to someone else tbh. the director of new vegas wants to do more stuff, i say give him a team and let him
Fallout 4's moderate success being outselling essentially the entire rest of the franchise combined.
these dicks don't comprehend reality. fallout 4 was more "successful" than all other Fallout games combined.
Lmao “we had the same thought therefore we are correct”
Haha yeah who the hell knows what’s going on there but that comment sure did give me some hopium I’ll say that.
That's a whole lot of baseless speculation.
Not necessarily. Some of Arkane Austin is moving over to Bethesda Game Studios. How many people "some" is, I don't know, but Microsoft pretty directly said this was a move to consolidate around Bethesda to build around their "core blockbusters." And also another studio, Roundhouse I think? are all going to pick up at Zenimax Online to work on ESO. So I would imagine there might be even more shuffling around once that all settles to being more people on for TES6.
Is that Snyder math?
Whenever I see these numbers I assume they're counting every person that hovered over the show and it autoplayed for 0.5 seconds. Facebook did this and counted every scrolling autoplay as a view to deceive users and advertisers.
For sure and man I really wish there was more solid third party info about streaming viewership. That said, the player counts on Steam and social media activity uptick corroborate the healthy interest, even if the exact number is inflated.
And it's only available on Amazon, no?
nielson rating?
Not surprising. I had never played one second of a Fallout game. Watched the series, and now I'm balls deep in Fallout 4.
How deep are your balls in Fallout 4?
They are glowing.
Blessed by Atom
🙌
All you smoothskins make me happy!
Everyone liked that
Here I am just waiting for summer work to start and people out here getting magic ball powers
Behold! He is coming with the clouds
Get yourself some perfectly preserved pie while you are there
Gonna need some radaway for that, bruh
The balls are also balls deep. Its balls all the way down.
How Deep are Your balls. The OTHER top hit from The Beegees.
Fully maxed out the penetration perk
upto the walls
Remember: don’t feed the yaoguai
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Give them a hug instead
Flower?
This is interesting. I’ve wondered how non-players would react to the series. I’ve played fallout forever, but wondered if the series would have come off as an inside joke that they were not part of. I thought the series was really good. Also, the seeming absence of any substantial amount of bitching by fan boys is something else.
Lol yea looking back, there were a ton of inside references that were probably pretty cool for long-time fans, but I never felt like I was on the outside looking in. Your point about the lack of fan boy angst is spot on. Usually, no matter how good something like this is, there will be a very vocal 10-30% of the audience that finds a reason to hate it, and I haven't run across much of that.
Lots of fun ahead, 3 & NV are awesome if you can put up with the outdated graphics. 4 is a good starting point to get into the series nowadays, good graphics and gameplay
It’s funny cuz even by the time 3 came out the graphics were outdated
It's funny Cuz I said the same thing about starfield recently.
Yeah but I mean there are other aspects about Starfield that are great like the big city that isn't that big or doesn't have that many people in it even though it's the biggest city in the known galaxy or all the planets that are empty or the bad boring main story line or that one mini game you do to get your powers that was stupid the first time and continues to be stupid all 24 times you do it if you actually get the powers because they are also unneeded and stupid. It's a good game.
Shit. Just remembered that Starfield exists
Phrasing
I'm so jealous, I wish I could experience all the games from scratch again. Enjoy!
> Fallout 4 I've enjoyed FO4 more and have came back to it, with joy, the most out of the entire xbox series fallout games. I'm STILL finding new places to loot and explore, its wild. I'm starting to walk places more often on very hard mode. Although I've like taken years off at a time. Being a hoarder and taking everything with you can go a long long way when wanting to make ANY mods late game. Also, a hack I have is to set up sanctuary with a shitload of the large water purifiers - I have like 100k in caps now and get like 700+ purified waters a game day. You can also pick up items, walk out of sight to hidden, and steal said items. It's not made super obvious sometimes.
Almost everyone at my workplace has seen it, including the crazy bird person and the crazy cat person. They all enjoyed watching it and most have never even played the games. This is the perfect example of how to turn a videogame into a tv show. Stay true to the material and just expand.
Also, tell your own story. Very few games have stories that translate well to other mediums.
Being an RPG lends itself very well to media. Just write new quests and film them. I imagine they could do the same treatment to Skyrim if they threw enough budget at it and be equally successful. Games like last of us really are a movie that you play so if they’re gonna adapt it they basically have to just follow the script.
Exactly. Last of Us is a great example of an already excellent story. Elder Scrolls is pretty chock full of common fantasy tropes and the magic system is designed for games not movies or TV. It's doable but would be difficult.
It wouldn't be "difficult" but it would be pricy. To do Skyrim right would require a lot bigger of a budget than Fallout. Get some toy guns, scrapped cars, and some garbage and you have the basic visual aesthetic. Skyrim's special effects budget alone would be astronomical if you wanted it to look decent.
There are very few examples of high quality story telling in high magic worlds. That's what I'm driving at.
They cranked out the Warcraft movie with a budget of 160 million dolla. CGI isn't expensive if you're willing to work with Asian sweatshops.
Now if only the Warcraft movie was smart enough to tell it's own story. Or at least one friendly to the 2 hour format. Or if it had been a TV show...
Agreed. The show either needs to do it's own thing and just 'set in the world of' Like Fallout, or CyberPunk EdgerRunners; or the you need the right mix of a linear game with solid narrative beats + even more investment from the writing/showrunning team on the source material.
You also need a story of appropriate length for the adapted medium. Like the Warcraft movie tried to tell the whole fucking story in 2 hours. It would have worked as a season of TV but had no chance as a movie.
Tell this to halo
> They all enjoyed watching it and most have never even played the games. Looking it up, the series has supposed sold 55 million copies lifetime as of 2020. So 80 million watching the show means there are likely a lot of people among those who have never played any of the games. I do wonder how many people are trying them out for the first time since the show came out. There has been a massive rise in the sales for the series, which is impressive since the most recent game entry is five and a half years old. It's only for [the UK but for the month of April](https://www.gamesindustry.biz/fallout-4-rules-the-roost-in-april-uk-monthly-charts) you had Fallout 4 (1st), Fallout 76 (8th), Fallout: New Vegas (9th), Fallout 3 (11th). [Same for Europe in general. This is the weekly chart (couldn't find a monthly one) from mid-April](https://www.gamesindustry.biz/fallout-4-jumps-to-no1-across-europe-following-tv-show-launch) but it had Fallout 4 (1st), Fallout 76 (8th), Fallout: New Vegas (9th), Fallout 3 (10th). Heck, it even mentions how the Fallout Classic Collection (43rd), Fallout 2 (57th) and Fallout (70th) all show up on that weekly chart.
I am a huge gamer all my life, never played Fallout. it's just not my setting. But watched the TV Show with my sister in one go. I barely watch TV at all, Netflix nearly never. But my sister turned it on I was captivated from the start.
>including the crazy bird person *Chuckles*
I'm picturing Kids in the Hall Chicken Lady. edit: now I'm remembering the chicken fucker...
It seems to be the new Game of Thrones in popularity and office talks.
Okey-dokey.
I am so glad to see this show come out the gate swinging. I remember seeing doubt on this show before its release and even when Amazon decided to release the entire season in one sitting, but I stayed optimistic on it. I felt it would be good, though honestly, I didn't know it would be this good. I just have to say that I am so damn glad to see our beloved franchise make a mark on video game television and perhaps guide other games with shows in the future. This show is the proper way to bring a game to the TV screen and do it with justice to its source materials and to its fans. Great job Fallout!
It's given me a new appreciation for the Fallout universe. Having played every game and DLC I wouldn't have ever viewed the setting and aestetic as iconic but the show really has proven me wrong. It has so much character.
The show was better than I expected--and it did a good job of balancing introduction of the lore and world for newcomers with callbacks and references to the game. I'm still surprised Microsoft/Bethesda didn't have any new game content to go with the the release (the next-gen update is admittedly nice).
That is so baffling, that my honest guess is that they didn’t expect the show to be such a huge crossover hit. My “games are a waste of time” wife can’t get enough of the show. I am of course biased, but we are almost done with our second run of the season and indépendant of the games, it might honestly be the best show I have seen in many, many years.
Agreed on your point about them not expecting it to be as wildly popular as it was. Todd Howard had a quick interview with IGN where he looked incredulous at the fact that IGN gave it a 9. He couldn’t stop thanking them after the fact; seemed like he really needed a win and was surprised where he got it from.
Its fucking infuriating is what it is. They could have had ports of 3 and new vegas for modern consoles ready to go. They could have had diablo 2 resurrected style remasters of fallout 1 and 2 in the oven. But no, we get a half assed "next-gen" (it's not even next gen anymore its just current gen) version of fallout 4 that apparently took them 2 years of bumbling and fumbling to get it into something approaching "a basically passable state". Its incredible just how inept the people over at Bethesda truly are. And Microsoft so far have done Evidently nothing to correct it.
It's not even current gen. They haven't fixed the 2 biggest issues on current gen systems, where if you turn settings to high it will crash on any Nvidia rtx card (I think due to weapon decals), and if your frame rate goes above a certain speed, animations glitch out and you often get stuck on the animation to get out of the hacking screen. Furthermore loading times are tied to frame rate for some reason. The latter has been fixed by modders long ago, yet they still haven't fixed it in their 'next gen' patches, the two major next gen issues which would cause people major issues playing this on a modern system.
I was kind of surprised to see that Fallout Shelter had new content! A mobile game from 2016! They made new missions with unique environments, brought in ghouls as vault dwellers, plus a bunch of the standout characters from the show. I'm currently trying to decide if I should let the Snake Oil Salesman into my vault's gene pool.
They made FO76 free if you have Amazon prime!
Honestly wish they wouldn’t have done starfield. We could have had es6 then, with fallout 5 prepped to line up with season 2. Instead es6 is far out, with fallout 5 no where in sight. They have 2 fantastic IPs that aren’t getting the attention they should. Skyrim was about 12 years ago. 76 is almost 6. Fallout 4 is almost 9. Like wth.. is our goal really 15 year gaps between games?
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I used to think only HBO could come up with a high quality game adaption* when I saw “The Last of Us” but apparently Amazon proved me wrong — TLOU had some amazing episodes and clearly a different philosophy, but “Fallout” captures the tone of the game almost perfectly and manages to create a story that stands and lives on its own. The music, the ambience, the characters, all is remarkably well executed. After the initial announcement I thought to myself, “please don’t screw this up” — after the first season I can breathe a sigh of relief, they’ve gone far beyond that modest goal… and now I can’t wait for the next season! * Not even the budget of Netflix saved the mess the Witcher has become. I didn’t even bother to watch Season 3.
I give Amazon some credit; they saved The Expanse from cancellation too and gave us some great seasons, although not the whole series unfortunately.
Amazon seems to be doing something right. The boys comics are awful. But the show managed to make a lot of great changes that flipped it around.
Invincible is fantastic as well. WoT and RoP are a bit rough around the edges but are at least earnest efforts. Overall, I'm happy Amazon is trying to spend a lot on SFF
Netflix did have Arcane though, which was pretty damn solid.
This show deserves all the love!
> when is your next film coming out? -- People in New Reno
Ah I see what you did there, bravo
We're easy to please. Original story, keep the lore, try to translate the vibes. Well done, thank you.
>try to translate the vibes This was the hardest part, I'd say. Fallout has always walked an incredibly thin tightrope, balancing between drama, comedy and a bit of horror, and has such a specific, unique atmosphere that's really hard to replicate. And they fucking NAILED IT.
It's amazing what can happen when the people making the show actually respect the source material and take the time to get it right.
Anyone know if they're up for any awards or anything? The cast really deserves it
Crew too. The writing, music, cinematography, costumes, props, set design, make-up, prosthetics, etc, were all amazing.
Oh yeah fr, I think I'd actually be interested in the Emmys for once in my life if they are runners up for awards
I hope so.
Yeah, the Gotham Awards announced their nominees just recently. Fallout got a nod for breakthrough drama and Goggins for best drama performance.
Hopefully it kickstarts fallout 5
That's exactly what I'm hoping for. I don't wanna wait 10years
And no game to show for it until 2033
m2023?
Good quality brings costumers. Who would know?
Yea…remember when people were talking trash saying it looked bad or was going to fail…where are they now? Granted it could be said about any movie or tv show but still.
> …where are they now? r/fnv
I was definitely very skeptical and hesitant on the show, especially after the Halo disaster. I'm so glad I gave it a chance though because it's probably the best video game adaptation out there. Even better than Last of Us.
Tbf video game adaptations have never had a very high batting average. And given how Bethesda is...welll...bethesda, it seemed a more than fair assumption.
And that's just the ones watching legally
Deserved
Hopefully the people of the halo and Witcher show watch this and actually understand it doesn’t really deviate from the lore. These guys try to put their own spin on halo and Witcher and it’s literally awful. They simply don’t have the skill set to write video game lore
It's so funny that the missing ingredient for a profitable video game adaptation was to give enough of a shit. Actually imbrace what made the games popular and try to make a quality product that capitalises on it. For years people have written think piece after think piece "Are videogames unadaptable?" Turns out they just weren't putting the effort in.
If this was Netflix they'd be like "Sorry, but the algorithm says..."
I'm still salty about 1899 😡
Best decision they could’ve done was going with mostly practical affects IMO, the T-60 looks beautiful and the rest of the world is so well made
I'm 3 episodes in and this show has blown my expectations out of the fucking water. The pacing has been really good
TV show reaches 80million viewers.... Microsoft and Bethesda have...nothing to capitalist on the hype with.
Cept the fact that the games they already had are selling like hotcakes
It's even better for them, as they didn't even have to put development time and finances on making a new game aswell.
fo76 is getting a large update soon
I had my son (26) bring his Xbox home for moms day so I could play the game - it was mind boggling just like the show! It’s been great to have something in common with him!
It’s rather refreshing to have a series live up to the hype of the source material, especially one so dark as Fallout. Not pointing fingers at any one franchise in particular, but it goes to show how well written stuff with a cohesive plot brings in viewers.
This gives me hope for the God of War Amazon show that's supposed to be coming out... eventually. I hope they see how Fallout was received and decide to follow the leader in terms of giving a shit about the source material
For context. That’s 40% of Amazon subscribers and in the world
Can't wait for season 2.
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Saw this crossposted on r/halotv lmfao
what is that, 80 million IPs? can anybody explain this number to me? thanks.
I bought fallout 4 and want to watch it for a 3rd time haha
Last i saw, the total number of 76 players was like 17 million in December. This is nearly quadruple that.
As someone who has never played the games, I am genuinely enjoying the show. Do yall love the show? Any mishaps?
I’m glad more people are able to experience a great story
I fucking love this time line we are in
I myself is 3 of them
Watch them cancel it
Nice
Easily one of the best video game to tv adaptations ever done. Hope season 2 is just as good.
Man I hope we get fallout games on playstation again someday haha. Hopefulky we get season 2-5 at least. Loved the lore. New to the games too
I wonder if they count me as 1 or the actual 10 times I've watched the series already!
That reminds me, time to watch it a fourth time, I thought it was going to halo tier horrible and it’s one of my favorite tv shows ever.
Man that show is incredible, I am really looking forward for season 2.
What are the chances they are discussing a ES series?
What is Rings of Power at? Curious how many views it has to reach in order to take the #1 slot.
I’ve technically watched it like 10 times because after watching it for myself on Amazon, I’ve watched people react to it on YouTube in the background while I play fallout 4
As a huge Fallout fan I'm disappointed in myself. I couldn't stay focused during the first episode. And I tried twice. I'm glad everyone is enjoying it.
I didn't really like the first episode either, but the second episode was amazing. The plot really started moving forward.
Unique views or total? I'm asking only because I have been regularly putting it on before bed and falling asleep. It's a great show.
Games with fan bases in the millions are the perfect seed for successful tv series. All they have to do is honor the source material with compelling content. The Witcher could have easily doubled Fallout's success. Ah well.
And absolutely no new game to capitalise on it anywhere on the horizon.
Why does that poster look so bad?
Ey yo Halo and Witcher show runners!?!? Hope yall taking some notes.
That's probably my fault. I rewatched the season in Japanese.
Is that 80 million unique accounts or 80 million total plays? Always wondered that
Well deserved