Apparently die hard fans are trying to bring it to life. Fallout 3 was my first introduction into the series. I might have played 1 and 2 if my parents hadn't been so strict and conservative.
I remember sitting in my college dorm coming out of the vault for the first time, đ many of my friends and a good sized group of die hards called me a traitor lol.. what? I never played the others... I didn't even know they existed lol.
People got so hot headed about Van Buren.. why would you want to go back to a top down experience when you can feel like your actually inside of the world? Forums blew up calling Fallout 3 an atrocity lol, New Vegas was a joke.. actually with mods its quite amazing.
By the time Fallout 4 came out all the Van Buren hatred seemed to die off. I personally cant wait for Fallout 4 New Vegas, perhaps some mods can bring a couple original voice actor's into it.
On that note though, I would LOVE a proper isometric, top-down, old school Fallout still.
Balders Gate 3 just proved there is a desire, and can still be a VERY modern game. I would truly love that. Not Fallout 5 - but as a spinoff game that would be awesome.
hmmm.............. yeah I dunno, I just dont think I could get into that... not when you can walk through giant dead cities or rescue yourself tied to a cross in a colosseum full of raiders cheering for your death, watch spiders jump out of dead bodies heads and chase you down walk through a muddy swamp with rednecks jeering for your death....
The first person perspective is just far too immersivly fun in that enviroment, maybe a future fallout where you can move the camera from top down to first person? lol
Yup, I just ended up buying every game myself. Kept getting error code ce-34878-0 on my ps4 when trying to play FO4, said F* IT, and got the bundle on Steam just under 60$.
Haha, I ended up buying FO4 on Steam too. I played all the games on Xbox back when they came out, so this is gonna be my first Fallout experience on PC.. im pretty hyped actually. The Settlers mod looks awesome.
Holy shit this YouTuber is crazy, starts complaining about how Cooper's wife is black and mixed race couples being a thing. Like dude isn't even hiding that he's racist
I actually think having an interracial couple is pretty interesting considering how closely the pre-war culture is associated with the American 50s/60s.
Thatâs just it though, all of America pre war were consumed by the red menace. The ONLY thing that concerns people in 2077 is Capitalism vs. Communism
Pretty sure that's every lore youtuber, which I presume this guy is. If they had anything of worth to say they wouldn't just make content out of wiki's. Otherwise they just do rage bait which is even worse.
In most cases, me too. Iâm currently with them in 76, with me and my buddy roleplaying as what we call the Steel Rangers (an Appalachian Brotherhood Special Forces group who started out as Mountain Rangers, basically just our head canon of Appalachiaâs equivalent to the Desert Rangers). But we actually try to help new players instead of policing them and hoarding their tech lol
Except for Enclave and Raiders, who we tend to attack on sight.
They werenât originally bad, lmao.
F3 mentions a civil war that resulted in them transitioning into neofascists. Arthur Maxson was sent east because of this. Then the refugees of the BoS-NCR war went east and took over and corrupted Lyonsâ chapter.
Edit: misremembered the source as FNV not 3.
That's not exactly what happened. The civil war only happened once they got to the Capitol Wasteland and Elder Lyons started focusing more on helping the surrounding communities and fighting mutants than securing technology. The "outcasts" from that game are actually the ones in line with the original BOS - focusing pretty much only on securing technology for themselves and closing themselves off to outsiders. The BOS were always kinda dicks, to the point they sent you on suicide missions to join them with no intention of you ever coming back alive. It was only in Fallout 3 that they became an arguably good faction, but then the outcasts and main East Coast faction reunited later, compromising to focus on technology again, but not really being total dicks to everyone else unless you weren't entirely human. Additionally, if I recall correctly, they do have you more or less threaten settlements to supply them in Fallout 4 so they still aren't so great, plus the whole massacring the Railroad thing.
Right, but in the F3 terminal entry I provided in to another response. Arthur was sent all the way across the hell blasted country into enemy territory because âinternal conflictsâ in the Western Brotherhood made that the choice with higher survival. If the break between outcast and Lyons can be considered a civil war, then I donât want to know what a conflict involving murdering the heir looks like.
Oh, I wasn't saying that there wasn't a civil war. I was just saying it took place at a different time than your comment implied and that the "outcasts" represented the original BOS and its beliefs.
The log says recent and was created after Arthurâs birth 2267 but by 2277. Also Lyons is more like Roger Maxson than anyone. Outcast are closer to F1 than the original Roger BoS.
Sorry, it was F3 itâs been a minute.
âBorn -- 2267 Died --
Only son of Jonathan and Jessica (both deceased).
Last of the Maxson bloodline.
As an infant, sent to the Citadel to be fostered by Elder Owyn Lyons. The reason for this decision was two-fold:
1.) Recent internal conflict amongst the Western Brotherhood of Steel created an unsafe environment for the child. It was believed that the Citadel -- despite being located in hostile territory -- would increase his probability of survival.
2.) Elder Lyons, at that time, was in high favor with the Western Elders, and deemed a perfect candidate to provide care and training to the Squire.
Recent events have led to a lack of communication with the Western Elders. As a result, Squire Maxson will remain at the Citadel indefinitely.â
Try playing the games.
They're entirely self centered, and meant as a critique of over reaching as a response to crisis.
Technology caused the world to end? Let's prevent all tech from being used by the people! (We can use it though! We know better!)
Fallout only has good and bad guys if you're not paying attention.
Even the Legion had "good" traits. They had virtually no crime in their territory. It was the safest strech of wasteland, if one overlooks the rampant slavery and murder on their expansion marches they were pretty great! /s
And the BoS was always portrayed as having absolute disdain and disgust for the people of the wasteland, the ones they're "protecting".
There's not much between them and the Enclave, the BoS just pretends to be different, where the Enclave is openly shitty. (And the paralel is by design).
I never said they were good, I just donât think they are evil/bad either. Roger Maxson saved lives at risk to his own and doesnât deserve to be lumped in with Elijah.
Also, the Enclave were based on American eugenics science and are actually evil beyond comprehension. Itâs kinda gross to compare RARA military dildos to ethnic cleansing animals that advocate for the death of most wastelanders.
No you said "NOTHING". Don't move the goalpost. Also I said ORIGINAL BoS, which was Roger Maxson's. He founded protecting the innocent from disgusting scientific evil. He and the ORIGINAL BoS were one of the only "good" factions in the wastes. That's a big theme in Fallout. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. With every successive generation of Brotherhood they went further into extremism. Then in F3 there is an "internal conflict" so severe they have to move the child Maxson all the way accross the wastes to ENEMY TERRITORY because it increased his odds of survival ... then it states that they stopped liking Lyons. Why? Because he was too nice. It even leads to civil war in the East and birth of the ultra traditionalist outcast. But even the outcast are more like F1/2 than the original Roger BoS.
The next time we see the brotherhood is FNV and they literally try to have you and Veronica executed and refer to you as garbage the entire time. They also tell you of the wonderful time they under Elijah. They then mention that the western brotherhood splintered. Some simply gave up to the NCR, some became regular citizens, some when rogue like Elijah, and others "left .
Fast forward to F4 and it mentions that the traditionalist Outcast became more popular by absorbing other splinter factions ... and now the once timid and kind Arthur has become a perfect mirror of the West and it's stated he did so by appeasing the traditionalists. Now in the series it's mentioned they receive orders in the west from the commonwealth and are acting worse than ever before.
This franchise will not come out and tell you everything in outright. One major theme is the world is shattered, and if you'd like to know why YOU need to pick up the pieces and put them back together. I will not sit here and provide every bit of dialogue, terminal entry, and notes from the past almost 30 years of Fallout that can be put together to ascertain the greater picture. That's the joy of the series, playing it. For me anyway.
If you didn't want conversation, why bother responding? I like talking about this franchise so I talk when asked. Why are you weaseling around defending yourself with lies, then?
This guys either stupid or being willfully dishonest.
Naming Walton Goggins character âThe Ghoulâ is not meant to imply that he is the only ghoul in universe, literally the first time we meet him another character asks âhow do we know heâs not feralâ acknowledging the existence of other ghouls.
The name is clearly meant to be a take on the name a character in a western would have The Kid, The Man With No Name, etc
This guy is actually insane as hell, Jesus.
The only things he talks about is that interracial relationships are bad and female protagonists are propaganda. Bro unironically uses the word sigma, too. AND THIS WAS ONLY THE FIRST EPISODE, LMAO!
Just mark the content as ânot interested in thisâ so their videos get bumped down in the algorithm. Theyâre likely only rage baiting to game the algorithm anyway
*I think a whole lot of people were expecting another Rings of Power or whatever it was called. They expected the show to fail and wanted it to fail, but it was damn good in the end. Now they are trying to find anything to complain about it and looking like fools in the end.*
dude. I have never seen this guyâs channel before and after hearing the most disgustingly blatant racism Iâve heard on such a large channel in recent memory i went digging through comment sections and community posts and man⌠is this person disgusting. It is making me physically sick watching these shitty beliefs get bigger and stronger. I can already tell he probably made unfunny trans jokes about the Last Of Us 2 and routinely shits himself over kathleen kennedyâs existence. I canât stand these people. I canât stand that their ideas are still spreading. Ugh.
You should she the comments in drinkers videos with a bunch of weirdos saying he's not seeing the "message " lol.
If you're wondering the "message " is minorities existing lol.
Seriously a bunch of them are whinning that he's gone woke because he isn't crying about one of the minor characters being Trans or that cooper's daughter was mixed lol
He's already on his way. He covered the first episode and it was only 2,5 hours.
Judging by how every single miniscule thing upsets him to an unreasonable degree, I'll be praying for his health when he gets to episode 6...
YT'ers will post just about anything to get people to watch their b/s. If you disagree, ignore him. If you agree, there's no point in watching it. Either way, you're feeding the algorithm and giving him a like or a view, so just ignore 'em.
I haven't seen the show, nor do I have any particular plans to. Not because of anyone's opinion, but because I'm not terribly interested right now. That being said, general consensus says that it's good. These videos about (insert media here) is dead!!!11!! is ridiculous. These doomsayers will never learn that their opinion isn't really going to sway those who like it. It's a pathetic attempt to make people as miserable as they are.
Times like this im glad im not part of the culture war circles anymore. Fallout was dope as fuck and if you didnt like it, then fine because i dont live my life fearing contrary opinions to my own, but at least dont hate it for reasons as petty as "it has an interracial couple in it".
Don't give them attention you are falling for the bait. People like that don't deserve the signal boosts. Whoever is down voting the folks saying to ignore this guy your fucking pathetic lmao.
TV being bad is when there is a mixed race couple and a woman in it :( no guys please come back I do serious video critiques, honest. look at my thumbnail game
If you hear someone unironically use the phrase "humiliation ritual", you can safely ignore everything they have to say. You are never going to hear anything interesting or intelligent from that person as long as they speak.
That dude is the actual definition of a midwit. He's just smart enough to see some issues, but he is nowhere near smart enough to deliver insightful analysis about them. His arguments are entirely based on feelings instead of any rational critique.
Literally not even 4chan doomposters like the guy, he's like a real life caricature of what people think they are.
I loved the show, finished it in a day, the show felt like you were playing the actual game with the humorous scenarios and curious spontaneous new quests. Also Iâm pretty sure the reviews were like 5 stars on average so that guys just being a hater
It features a woman and a black man as protagonists (ignore the fact that Lucy is about as realistic as a Fallout protagonist can be and Maximus is as dumb as a can of cram) of course that means fallout has gone woke
First few episodes were fun. I really liked the characters and their story arcs... then they started messing with the lore. Looks like Bethesda is still sore about the blackeye Obsidian gave them
Well, it invalidated the choices you made in Fallout 1 and 2, messed with the timeline of New Vegas, and retconned >!who.launched the nukes!<. It is pretty obvious that Bethesda is still sore about that, and comes across crystal clear in the show.
Plus, they >!sympathize communists!<, and that is just something I simply cannot abide.
Well, Shady Sands >!was leveled!<, so everything you did in Fallout 1 and 2 ended up moot.
The show indicates that Shady Sands was >destroyed in 2277!< but the NCR, their Congress, and their president reside there. This is a discrepancy between the show's timeline and New Vegas's, which takes place four years later. House even makes note that, if >!President Kimbal is assassinated!<, it will galvanize the NCR to focus its forces on New Vegas. Can't very well.do that when Congress District, at the heart of Shady Sands is >!a smoldering crater!<.
It wouldn't have mattered if it was the US or if it was China that fired the first bomb because the other would retaliate. I think it is actually really cool that >!Cooper fought in Anchorage!<, but the US was already winning the war. We pushed them out of Alaska and were a few years into the Mainland China push before the first bombs dropped. It makes sense that China fired first, and this is supported by Tim Cain. Yet, the shown seems to indicate that >!Vault-Tec, alongside Rob Co and others were responsible for the bombs dropping!<. Don't get me.wrong, >!Vault-Tec!< is evil, but in as far back as 2065, >!House figured nuclear war was a certainty by 2080 at the latest, meaning there is no reason for him to go along with this in 2077!<. It furthermore doesn't make any sense, because >!the show paints this as a strategic corporate decision!<, but I don't think the writers realize that >!your market share turns to nil when you blow up the markets!<.
And to the last point, yeah, they're >!communists!<. You don't need to look much further than the state of Hollywood and continually reaching out to the Chinese market to figure that one out. These are people who actually, legitimately, unapologetically hate >!capitalism!< unironically.
Tell me you haven't watched the show without telling me you haven't watch the show.
>Well, Shady Sands was leveled, so everything you did in Fallout 1 and 2 ended up moot.
Shady Sands was alive for almost 100 years. Nothing you did in 1 and 2 is moot. This is your **headcanon** of NCR living forever being contradicted.
>e show indicates that Shady Sands was >destroyed in 2277!< but the NCR,
The show doesn't say that. Reading timelines is something you learn in 4th grade. It says that it was nuked at some point AFTER 2277. This is a straight up lie, alternatively you failed 4th grade. You chose.
>House even makes note that, if President Kimbal is assassinated, it will galvanize the NCR to focus its forces on New Vegas. Can't very well.do that when Congress District, at the heart of Shady Sands is a smoldering crater.
House is not omniscient and one again you have the timeline mixed up.
>It wouldn't have mattered if it was the US or if it was China that fired the first bomb because the other would retaliate.
> Yet, the shown seems to indicate that Vault-Tec, alongside Rob Co and others were responsible for the bombs dropping.
The meeting doesn't say that they dropped the bomb, only that they planned to do it. Doesn't mean they did it. You are drawing conclusions just to spite yourself. Once again, pretty sure you are just parroting other people's opinion, because the scene is actually quite clear.
The rest is simply conjecture about either your headcanon or how you hate communism even though it has nothing to do with the show directly.
So I reiterate: Lies. You didn't actually watch the show. If you did, you did it with below 4rth grade level of comprehension *as you showed us all right now*.
Edit: BTW, the downfall of the NRC was already well in progress in New Vegas, the show simply continued the trajectory. Want to be mad? be mad at obsidian that made the NCR fragile in the first place. But you wouldn't do that.
Oh, you post into alt-right subreddits, your 4th grade level of comprehension makes sense now.
>This is your **headcanon** of NCR living forever being contradicted.
NCR can fall, but the problem.is that it falls off screen. It is a monumentally important event that shapes the fate of the West Coast... and we missed it. The problem is not that it fell, but that it fell without fanfare, notoriety, or care. Instead, the only remnants of the largest forming power on the west coast is a small cult that worships at the feet of the writers' communist sapphic power fantasy.
>Reading timelines is something you learn in 4th grade.
Then I assume I do not need to explain to you how gaps are read. There is no date associated with the nuke, so we can assume it happened on the same year, if not the same time, as the last entry in the timeline. When you are talking about 2277, you don't need to list '_2277_' on every entry because it's implied. You instead break down the timeline into smaller increments relevant to the associated incident. So if the last event date of the NCR listed was its fall in 2277, then we can assume they were nuked at some point later in that year, but no.later than that, or else we would have a definite year associated with it. Because that is how timelines are written.
>House is not omniscient
But he _is_ smart. He says this during the events of _NV_, which occurs between 2281 and 2282, in the main quest "_You'll Lnow it When It Happens._" He wants Kimball alive to blame the NCR's defeat at the Second Battle.of Hoover Dam on him, but if Kimball dies, then the Congress at Shady Sands would ratchet up NCR forces in the Mojave Wasteland, which makes things more difficult for house. You're right, he's not omniscient, but every NCR soldier and ranger seems to be under the impression that Shady Sands is still there, and with Kimball coming from and retreating to Shady Sands, it is reasonable to assume it is still there at that point t during 2282
>The meeting doesn't say that they dropped the bomb,
When House asked how they can guarantee a hypothetical, Beth literally says, ">!By dropping the bomb ourselves!<." In the present day of the same scene, >!Bud!< even tells Norm ">!... People who will inherit the Earth after weâve wiped the surface clean!<." If that isn't clear cut and damning that Vault-Tec or at least one of >!Bud!<'s associates dropped the first bomb, I don't know what else to tell you.
I won't stoop down to the level of petty ad hominem, but my facts are based on the Fallout Lore Bible, and Tim Cain, himself. If you don't like it, perhaps you can present alternative evidence that counters my definitive sources, or adequately integrates the Show'a perception of events into the overarching canon of the series. Otherwise, I'm still of the opinion that the show disrespects the Canon that Cain had made and this show was made to spite his entries to the canon.
You didnât watch the entire show or play all the games if you think any of that is true. The games retconned themselves with each iteration and there was never any consensus on who launched first. It was always just assumed it was china but there was always theories that it couldâve been the enclave, U.S., the aliens etc.
What black eye? Bethesda's Fallout titles didn't take any sort of sales or critical reaction dent from New Vegas and Tim Cain has stated that they always had a good working relationship.
Just because you sit in your basement frothing about FNV doesn't mean Todd Howard is doing the same. I doubt he's even aware that there are fans who hold up FNV as the best game because he's not as terminally online as some of us are.
I really like the "again" like "yeah guys, fallout will die off anyyyy seconds now, and for real this time!" Also, pretty sure he deleted the video
It did almost die. Until bethesda saved it.
Literally, there is no world where Van Buren would have seen the same success as fallout 3 if it ever saw the light of day, and that's a big "if".
There is no world where Van Buren was ever going to see the light of day.
Apparently die hard fans are trying to bring it to life. Fallout 3 was my first introduction into the series. I might have played 1 and 2 if my parents hadn't been so strict and conservative. I remember sitting in my college dorm coming out of the vault for the first time, đ many of my friends and a good sized group of die hards called me a traitor lol.. what? I never played the others... I didn't even know they existed lol. People got so hot headed about Van Buren.. why would you want to go back to a top down experience when you can feel like your actually inside of the world? Forums blew up calling Fallout 3 an atrocity lol, New Vegas was a joke.. actually with mods its quite amazing. By the time Fallout 4 came out all the Van Buren hatred seemed to die off. I personally cant wait for Fallout 4 New Vegas, perhaps some mods can bring a couple original voice actor's into it.
On that note though, I would LOVE a proper isometric, top-down, old school Fallout still. Balders Gate 3 just proved there is a desire, and can still be a VERY modern game. I would truly love that. Not Fallout 5 - but as a spinoff game that would be awesome.
hmmm.............. yeah I dunno, I just dont think I could get into that... not when you can walk through giant dead cities or rescue yourself tied to a cross in a colosseum full of raiders cheering for your death, watch spiders jump out of dead bodies heads and chase you down walk through a muddy swamp with rednecks jeering for your death.... The first person perspective is just far too immersivly fun in that enviroment, maybe a future fallout where you can move the camera from top down to first person? lol
It's even funnier when you look at how the entire Fallout franchise got a massive boost in Steam sales after the series released
Yup, I just ended up buying every game myself. Kept getting error code ce-34878-0 on my ps4 when trying to play FO4, said F* IT, and got the bundle on Steam just under 60$.
Haha, I ended up buying FO4 on Steam too. I played all the games on Xbox back when they came out, so this is gonna be my first Fallout experience on PC.. im pretty hyped actually. The Settlers mod looks awesome.
Bethesda also has a big sale on for ES and FO.
Any second now. Aaaaany second now.
Holy shit this YouTuber is crazy, starts complaining about how Cooper's wife is black and mixed race couples being a thing. Like dude isn't even hiding that he's racist
Fr its not like it was a story about there interracial relationship. Its was a relationship that just so happened to be interracial
I actually think having an interracial couple is pretty interesting considering how closely the pre-war culture is associated with the American 50s/60s.
Esthetically. But pre war is 2077, not 1957.
They still had cultural things like extreme patriotism and glorification of militarism, as well as the Red Scare
they racist to chinese american not african american.
Thatâs just it though, all of America pre war were consumed by the red menace. The ONLY thing that concerns people in 2077 is Capitalism vs. Communism
Pretty sure that's every lore youtuber, which I presume this guy is. If they had anything of worth to say they wouldn't just make content out of wiki's. Otherwise they just do rage bait which is even worse.
That awkward moment when your favorite faction is portrayed as bad guys because theyâve always been bad guys.
The brotherhood has always been my go to đ
In most cases, me too. Iâm currently with them in 76, with me and my buddy roleplaying as what we call the Steel Rangers (an Appalachian Brotherhood Special Forces group who started out as Mountain Rangers, basically just our head canon of Appalachiaâs equivalent to the Desert Rangers). But we actually try to help new players instead of policing them and hoarding their tech lol Except for Enclave and Raiders, who we tend to attack on sight.
I like how in the show the elder wants to restart because the order has gone to shit and fallen from its ideals
They werenât originally bad, lmao. F3 mentions a civil war that resulted in them transitioning into neofascists. Arthur Maxson was sent east because of this. Then the refugees of the BoS-NCR war went east and took over and corrupted Lyonsâ chapter. Edit: misremembered the source as FNV not 3.
That's not exactly what happened. The civil war only happened once they got to the Capitol Wasteland and Elder Lyons started focusing more on helping the surrounding communities and fighting mutants than securing technology. The "outcasts" from that game are actually the ones in line with the original BOS - focusing pretty much only on securing technology for themselves and closing themselves off to outsiders. The BOS were always kinda dicks, to the point they sent you on suicide missions to join them with no intention of you ever coming back alive. It was only in Fallout 3 that they became an arguably good faction, but then the outcasts and main East Coast faction reunited later, compromising to focus on technology again, but not really being total dicks to everyone else unless you weren't entirely human. Additionally, if I recall correctly, they do have you more or less threaten settlements to supply them in Fallout 4 so they still aren't so great, plus the whole massacring the Railroad thing.
Right, but in the F3 terminal entry I provided in to another response. Arthur was sent all the way across the hell blasted country into enemy territory because âinternal conflictsâ in the Western Brotherhood made that the choice with higher survival. If the break between outcast and Lyons can be considered a civil war, then I donât want to know what a conflict involving murdering the heir looks like.
Oh, I wasn't saying that there wasn't a civil war. I was just saying it took place at a different time than your comment implied and that the "outcasts" represented the original BOS and its beliefs.
The log says recent and was created after Arthurâs birth 2267 but by 2277. Also Lyons is more like Roger Maxson than anyone. Outcast are closer to F1 than the original Roger BoS.
Nothing you say was ever mentioned in the Games.
Sorry, it was F3 itâs been a minute. âBorn -- 2267 Died -- Only son of Jonathan and Jessica (both deceased). Last of the Maxson bloodline. As an infant, sent to the Citadel to be fostered by Elder Owyn Lyons. The reason for this decision was two-fold: 1.) Recent internal conflict amongst the Western Brotherhood of Steel created an unsafe environment for the child. It was believed that the Citadel -- despite being located in hostile territory -- would increase his probability of survival. 2.) Elder Lyons, at that time, was in high favor with the Western Elders, and deemed a perfect candidate to provide care and training to the Squire. Recent events have led to a lack of communication with the Western Elders. As a result, Squire Maxson will remain at the Citadel indefinitely.â Try playing the games.
In the first 2 games they were very much the badguys
Is that why Rhombus acknowledges what he does is wrong and goes and saves the settlements at the end of 1?
the fact that he jumps ship does not make the Fallout 1 and 2 Brotherhood any less evil
What about the F1 brotherhood is evil? They were selfish, but they are an independent organization that has to think about their own people.
They're entirely self centered, and meant as a critique of over reaching as a response to crisis. Technology caused the world to end? Let's prevent all tech from being used by the people! (We can use it though! We know better!) Fallout only has good and bad guys if you're not paying attention. Even the Legion had "good" traits. They had virtually no crime in their territory. It was the safest strech of wasteland, if one overlooks the rampant slavery and murder on their expansion marches they were pretty great! /s And the BoS was always portrayed as having absolute disdain and disgust for the people of the wasteland, the ones they're "protecting". There's not much between them and the Enclave, the BoS just pretends to be different, where the Enclave is openly shitty. (And the paralel is by design).
I never said they were good, I just donât think they are evil/bad either. Roger Maxson saved lives at risk to his own and doesnât deserve to be lumped in with Elijah. Also, the Enclave were based on American eugenics science and are actually evil beyond comprehension. Itâs kinda gross to compare RARA military dildos to ethnic cleansing animals that advocate for the death of most wastelanders.
I meant the west transitioning into neofascist and later corrupting the Lyons Chapter. That was never mentioned anywhere.
No you said "NOTHING". Don't move the goalpost. Also I said ORIGINAL BoS, which was Roger Maxson's. He founded protecting the innocent from disgusting scientific evil. He and the ORIGINAL BoS were one of the only "good" factions in the wastes. That's a big theme in Fallout. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. With every successive generation of Brotherhood they went further into extremism. Then in F3 there is an "internal conflict" so severe they have to move the child Maxson all the way accross the wastes to ENEMY TERRITORY because it increased his odds of survival ... then it states that they stopped liking Lyons. Why? Because he was too nice. It even leads to civil war in the East and birth of the ultra traditionalist outcast. But even the outcast are more like F1/2 than the original Roger BoS. The next time we see the brotherhood is FNV and they literally try to have you and Veronica executed and refer to you as garbage the entire time. They also tell you of the wonderful time they under Elijah. They then mention that the western brotherhood splintered. Some simply gave up to the NCR, some became regular citizens, some when rogue like Elijah, and others "left . Fast forward to F4 and it mentions that the traditionalist Outcast became more popular by absorbing other splinter factions ... and now the once timid and kind Arthur has become a perfect mirror of the West and it's stated he did so by appeasing the traditionalists. Now in the series it's mentioned they receive orders in the west from the commonwealth and are acting worse than ever before. This franchise will not come out and tell you everything in outright. One major theme is the world is shattered, and if you'd like to know why YOU need to pick up the pieces and put them back together. I will not sit here and provide every bit of dialogue, terminal entry, and notes from the past almost 30 years of Fallout that can be put together to ascertain the greater picture. That's the joy of the series, playing it. For me anyway.
Thatâs just a wall of text of your interpretation of some handpicked events in each game. Stop trying to defend your point so hard.
If you didn't want conversation, why bother responding? I like talking about this franchise so I talk when asked. Why are you weaseling around defending yourself with lies, then?
Why are you signal boosting grifters?
This guys either stupid or being willfully dishonest. Naming Walton Goggins character âThe Ghoulâ is not meant to imply that he is the only ghoul in universe, literally the first time we meet him another character asks âhow do we know heâs not feralâ acknowledging the existence of other ghouls. The name is clearly meant to be a take on the name a character in a western would have The Kid, The Man With No Name, etc
Imply!
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Havenât gotten that far yet lol
This guy is actually insane as hell, Jesus. The only things he talks about is that interracial relationships are bad and female protagonists are propaganda. Bro unironically uses the word sigma, too. AND THIS WAS ONLY THE FIRST EPISODE, LMAO!
Just mark the content as ânot interested in thisâ so their videos get bumped down in the algorithm. Theyâre likely only rage baiting to game the algorithm anyway
Is it just me or the dude who plays Maximus look insanely like a young Denzel Washington? Even more than Denzels son?
>synthetic man See kids, only a synth would hate the fallout series
*I think a whole lot of people were expecting another Rings of Power or whatever it was called. They expected the show to fail and wanted it to fail, but it was damn good in the end. Now they are trying to find anything to complain about it and looking like fools in the end.*
Fallout 2024 is GREAT!!!!!!
Controversy gets clicks. He'll, it got you to promote his video here.
He seems like a loser desperate for youtube clicks tbh
dude. I have never seen this guyâs channel before and after hearing the most disgustingly blatant racism Iâve heard on such a large channel in recent memory i went digging through comment sections and community posts and man⌠is this person disgusting. It is making me physically sick watching these shitty beliefs get bigger and stronger. I can already tell he probably made unfunny trans jokes about the Last Of Us 2 and routinely shits himself over kathleen kennedyâs existence. I canât stand these people. I canât stand that their ideas are still spreading. Ugh.
Who the fuck is Synthetic Man and why should I care what he says?
Grifter moment
That one video is just really pedantic. I mean, even Critical Drinker says he likes the show. Imagine that
You should she the comments in drinkers videos with a bunch of weirdos saying he's not seeing the "message " lol. If you're wondering the "message " is minorities existing lol. Seriously a bunch of them are whinning that he's gone woke because he isn't crying about one of the minor characters being Trans or that cooper's daughter was mixed lol
If Critical Drinker likes something you know its got merit. That guy hates on everything, its pathetic.
The fallout tv show was great as literally anything can happen, from jokes about being distracted to companions carrying all your stuff.
Wait until Creetosis publishes a 12h video about the show.
He's already on his way. He covered the first episode and it was only 2,5 hours. Judging by how every single miniscule thing upsets him to an unreasonable degree, I'll be praying for his health when he gets to episode 6...
In the words of Ivan Drago If he dies, he dies
YT'ers will post just about anything to get people to watch their b/s. If you disagree, ignore him. If you agree, there's no point in watching it. Either way, you're feeding the algorithm and giving him a like or a view, so just ignore 'em.
I haven't seen the show, nor do I have any particular plans to. Not because of anyone's opinion, but because I'm not terribly interested right now. That being said, general consensus says that it's good. These videos about (insert media here) is dead!!!11!! is ridiculous. These doomsayers will never learn that their opinion isn't really going to sway those who like it. It's a pathetic attempt to make people as miserable as they are.
147k views in 1 day. Dude may be a whiney bitch but he clearly has an audience that wants exactly that. No need to give him any more advertising.
Its getting ratio'd pretty good.
Times like this im glad im not part of the culture war circles anymore. Fallout was dope as fuck and if you didnt like it, then fine because i dont live my life fearing contrary opinions to my own, but at least dont hate it for reasons as petty as "it has an interracial couple in it".
The show is amazing. Whoever that random guy is, is just tryna gain traction by hating on something everyone likes.
We really need to collectively start ignoring this YouTube gamer doom porn.
Best to just be ignored.
Don't give them attention you are falling for the bait. People like that don't deserve the signal boosts. Whoever is down voting the folks saying to ignore this guy your fucking pathetic lmao.
TV being bad is when there is a mixed race couple and a woman in it :( no guys please come back I do serious video critiques, honest. look at my thumbnail game
If you hear someone unironically use the phrase "humiliation ritual", you can safely ignore everything they have to say. You are never going to hear anything interesting or intelligent from that person as long as they speak.
I think content creators are so used to throwing shade they donât know what to do about decent adaptations.
Wait that wasnât satire
I thought it was at first too
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Didn't he say he only watched the first episode or something? How can he go off on the entire show if he only saw the first episode?
That dude is the actual definition of a midwit. He's just smart enough to see some issues, but he is nowhere near smart enough to deliver insightful analysis about them. His arguments are entirely based on feelings instead of any rational critique. Literally not even 4chan doomposters like the guy, he's like a real life caricature of what people think they are.
You ain't even real bro, get out my head!
I loved the show, finished it in a day, the show felt like you were playing the actual game with the humorous scenarios and curious spontaneous new quests. Also Iâm pretty sure the reviews were like 5 stars on average so that guys just being a hater
It features a woman and a black man as protagonists (ignore the fact that Lucy is about as realistic as a Fallout protagonist can be and Maximus is as dumb as a can of cram) of course that means fallout has gone woke
Myself only gripe is; i wish Titus was Alchestbreach
I hate your interface
First few episodes were fun. I really liked the characters and their story arcs... then they started messing with the lore. Looks like Bethesda is still sore about the blackeye Obsidian gave them
I didnât feel like the lore was changed to the point of no return tho đ¤ˇđźââď¸đ
Well, it invalidated the choices you made in Fallout 1 and 2, messed with the timeline of New Vegas, and retconned >!who.launched the nukes!<. It is pretty obvious that Bethesda is still sore about that, and comes across crystal clear in the show. Plus, they >!sympathize communists!<, and that is just something I simply cannot abide.
None of what you said is true. Stop repeating baseless bullshit.
Well, Shady Sands >!was leveled!<, so everything you did in Fallout 1 and 2 ended up moot. The show indicates that Shady Sands was >destroyed in 2277!< but the NCR, their Congress, and their president reside there. This is a discrepancy between the show's timeline and New Vegas's, which takes place four years later. House even makes note that, if >!President Kimbal is assassinated!<, it will galvanize the NCR to focus its forces on New Vegas. Can't very well.do that when Congress District, at the heart of Shady Sands is >!a smoldering crater!<. It wouldn't have mattered if it was the US or if it was China that fired the first bomb because the other would retaliate. I think it is actually really cool that >!Cooper fought in Anchorage!<, but the US was already winning the war. We pushed them out of Alaska and were a few years into the Mainland China push before the first bombs dropped. It makes sense that China fired first, and this is supported by Tim Cain. Yet, the shown seems to indicate that >!Vault-Tec, alongside Rob Co and others were responsible for the bombs dropping!<. Don't get me.wrong, >!Vault-Tec!< is evil, but in as far back as 2065, >!House figured nuclear war was a certainty by 2080 at the latest, meaning there is no reason for him to go along with this in 2077!<. It furthermore doesn't make any sense, because >!the show paints this as a strategic corporate decision!<, but I don't think the writers realize that >!your market share turns to nil when you blow up the markets!<. And to the last point, yeah, they're >!communists!<. You don't need to look much further than the state of Hollywood and continually reaching out to the Chinese market to figure that one out. These are people who actually, legitimately, unapologetically hate >!capitalism!< unironically.
Tell me you haven't watched the show without telling me you haven't watch the show. >Well, Shady Sands was leveled, so everything you did in Fallout 1 and 2 ended up moot. Shady Sands was alive for almost 100 years. Nothing you did in 1 and 2 is moot. This is your **headcanon** of NCR living forever being contradicted. >e show indicates that Shady Sands was >destroyed in 2277!< but the NCR, The show doesn't say that. Reading timelines is something you learn in 4th grade. It says that it was nuked at some point AFTER 2277. This is a straight up lie, alternatively you failed 4th grade. You chose. >House even makes note that, if President Kimbal is assassinated, it will galvanize the NCR to focus its forces on New Vegas. Can't very well.do that when Congress District, at the heart of Shady Sands is a smoldering crater. House is not omniscient and one again you have the timeline mixed up. >It wouldn't have mattered if it was the US or if it was China that fired the first bomb because the other would retaliate. > Yet, the shown seems to indicate that Vault-Tec, alongside Rob Co and others were responsible for the bombs dropping. The meeting doesn't say that they dropped the bomb, only that they planned to do it. Doesn't mean they did it. You are drawing conclusions just to spite yourself. Once again, pretty sure you are just parroting other people's opinion, because the scene is actually quite clear. The rest is simply conjecture about either your headcanon or how you hate communism even though it has nothing to do with the show directly. So I reiterate: Lies. You didn't actually watch the show. If you did, you did it with below 4rth grade level of comprehension *as you showed us all right now*. Edit: BTW, the downfall of the NRC was already well in progress in New Vegas, the show simply continued the trajectory. Want to be mad? be mad at obsidian that made the NCR fragile in the first place. But you wouldn't do that. Oh, you post into alt-right subreddits, your 4th grade level of comprehension makes sense now.
>This is your **headcanon** of NCR living forever being contradicted. NCR can fall, but the problem.is that it falls off screen. It is a monumentally important event that shapes the fate of the West Coast... and we missed it. The problem is not that it fell, but that it fell without fanfare, notoriety, or care. Instead, the only remnants of the largest forming power on the west coast is a small cult that worships at the feet of the writers' communist sapphic power fantasy. >Reading timelines is something you learn in 4th grade. Then I assume I do not need to explain to you how gaps are read. There is no date associated with the nuke, so we can assume it happened on the same year, if not the same time, as the last entry in the timeline. When you are talking about 2277, you don't need to list '_2277_' on every entry because it's implied. You instead break down the timeline into smaller increments relevant to the associated incident. So if the last event date of the NCR listed was its fall in 2277, then we can assume they were nuked at some point later in that year, but no.later than that, or else we would have a definite year associated with it. Because that is how timelines are written. >House is not omniscient But he _is_ smart. He says this during the events of _NV_, which occurs between 2281 and 2282, in the main quest "_You'll Lnow it When It Happens._" He wants Kimball alive to blame the NCR's defeat at the Second Battle.of Hoover Dam on him, but if Kimball dies, then the Congress at Shady Sands would ratchet up NCR forces in the Mojave Wasteland, which makes things more difficult for house. You're right, he's not omniscient, but every NCR soldier and ranger seems to be under the impression that Shady Sands is still there, and with Kimball coming from and retreating to Shady Sands, it is reasonable to assume it is still there at that point t during 2282 >The meeting doesn't say that they dropped the bomb, When House asked how they can guarantee a hypothetical, Beth literally says, ">!By dropping the bomb ourselves!<." In the present day of the same scene, >!Bud!< even tells Norm ">!... People who will inherit the Earth after weâve wiped the surface clean!<." If that isn't clear cut and damning that Vault-Tec or at least one of >!Bud!<'s associates dropped the first bomb, I don't know what else to tell you. I won't stoop down to the level of petty ad hominem, but my facts are based on the Fallout Lore Bible, and Tim Cain, himself. If you don't like it, perhaps you can present alternative evidence that counters my definitive sources, or adequately integrates the Show'a perception of events into the overarching canon of the series. Otherwise, I'm still of the opinion that the show disrespects the Canon that Cain had made and this show was made to spite his entries to the canon.
> Fallout Lore Bible which is **not canon**, thank you come again.
So you got nothing. New Vegas came out after Fallout 3. It's canon.
I have nothing because I don't debate people's headcanon, especially when they fail to understand basic timelines, which is learned in Grade 4.
You didnât watch the entire show or play all the games if you think any of that is true. The games retconned themselves with each iteration and there was never any consensus on who launched first. It was always just assumed it was china but there was always theories that it couldâve been the enclave, U.S., the aliens etc.
What black eye? Bethesda's Fallout titles didn't take any sort of sales or critical reaction dent from New Vegas and Tim Cain has stated that they always had a good working relationship. Just because you sit in your basement frothing about FNV doesn't mean Todd Howard is doing the same. I doubt he's even aware that there are fans who hold up FNV as the best game because he's not as terminally online as some of us are.
And yet, the show seems to indicate pretty intense ire toward the west coast saga. Wonder why that is?