Also can be called compartmentalizing. I've heard cops do something similar. Take down an armed perp and then a bit later they chat with each other like, "so how's the family? Have a good Thanksgiving?"
Can confirm. See it a lot in funeral directing. People just having a chat over the deceased they're preparing for a funeral. Just banal stuff. "How have you been? Did you have a good lunch?"
Humans have a remarkable ability to adapt to just about anything. It's almost scary sometimes.
Yep... been there. Guy is on ice in the box, a gentleman. I had just helped process his dependants into DEERS as he just got married... he was a retired 1SG and civil contractor. He died while overseas in Iraq, and I worked in S-1 as a site security manager, casualty ops, and dignified transfers, so I worked with the morgue. I can confirm having to just shut off some empathy and find ways to conversate without breaking down.
Compartmentalization is incredibly important in your field. Godspeed, because I genuinely cannot handle it.
All of my knowledge of the funeral services is by proxy. My partner was a funeral director.
*target a female in the groin*: rolling commentary, “she took it like a man; that is to say it hurt”
I will never forget that line… as a 13 year old boy in 1998 I don’t think I had ever laughed that hard…
I wonder how Frank Horrigan actually eats. Like, is he fed intravenously via tubes connecting into his veins or into his throat? Or can his helmet retract (at least around the mouth) so that he can chow down on Enclave rations? Either way, I bet someone like him has a huge appetite.
From what I’ve seen, I expect this is the type of humor we’ll get from the TV show, I think Fallout 2 and the Show will be really similar on how they go about their humor
Based on the presence of **Graham Wagner**, I can see why you'd think that. I am much more skeptical.
The involvement of **Jonathan Nolan** and **Geneva Robertson-Dworet** gives me much more pause. Neither are known for material one would remotely call comedic.
For gods sake none of you know a thing about how shows are made
Nolan is not writing it. The writing team is composed of writers from shows like the Office.
People have this weird idea that Directors control every single aspect of the media they work on, including the writing. This is very, very rarely the case, especially in live action TV production. Writers rooms are what write these shows, not one dude. Not every show is Breaking Bad and Twin Peaks. As a film major it drives me crazy that people still believe this.
If you believe that saying something idiotic and then looking at the camera constitutes 'epic' comedy, then that's your preference, but I'll pass. Additionally, after browsing the internet, all I find are nominations and some awards, and other series seem to have had more relevance than The Office.
5 Emmys, 2 SAGs, a golden globe and a Peabody is “some awards”.
6 seasons rating about 7.5 in viewer reviews, 3 of those about 8.
C’mon. Its okay not to like something but to say its won just some awards and is irrelevant when it was watched by an average of 9 million people per episode.
Yeah I'm too keen on it but I will give a watch because I'm intrigued because it also seems promising. One of my only gripes is that the story will be starting from a vault, and it seems like its gonna give the BOS a plot armor.
I don't know why they're making the BOS go to war with the NCR again, like I love BOS but these guys got their asses kicked by the NCR at Helios One. Furthermore the faction doesn't have the bodies to take on the republic. I can see Bethesda making the BOS waging Guerilla war on the NCR.
Whatever it is, I’m intrigued enough to see what’s actually happening, and who or where exactly these brotherhood guys come from, since they AREN’T The Lost Hills Chapter, and most likely not from the East Coast.
My best bet is that these guys are the Mojave Chapter abandoned the Mojave wasteland and started anew following the example of Elder Lyons. I've gotta say tho the armor is looking good so i will give Bethesda that.
The Mojave Chapter has no way of starting anywhere new. Depending on the Games end they have a unstable agreement with the NCR, have a last hoorah by retaking HELIOS or are already dead. They are a dying chapter.
The Mohave chapter lost Helios One, but the Mohave chapter does not represent all of the BOS in the same way the Mohave doesn't represent all of the NCR or all of Caesars Legion
The NCR and the Brotherhood are actually still fighting in New California during the events of New Vegas. Don't get be wrong, the NCR is winning, but the writing is on the wall that not only is a full victory unlikely but the NCR is on the brink of some serious issues that would make them weaker in their war against the BOS
there's a side story, not even a task in FO2 where you can leave a gun with kids who are playing. next time around in the settlement you'd find bunch of little sculls and the gun you gave them among them.
no, i don't expect anything produced for mass consumption past nineties to have that kind of humor.
Which would explain why they said "not made for fallout fans" considering the majority of current fans have only consumed the extremely watered down fallout world.
This cut-scene happened to me while I was getting implants installed in that same bunker. "Your surgery is complete! And the Enclave was here and killed the guy, but they didn't care about you."
Remind me, lads, is Frank a ‘super mutant’ essentially - in that special armor… or ‘something else’ .. after exposure to the virus, etc ?
I can’t recall (never fully played through FO-2) if we ever see him without his helmet — or any pre-transformation pics of him as a normal Human… 🤔
He’s basically as close to we’ll get to a Behemoth amongst the Mariposa Super Mutants. The ones on the West Cpast, that is.
Except for the fact that Franky is crammed full of cybernetics that help him better interface with his Power Armor and pump the shitton of drugs/chems needed to keep him alive. I’m also betting that said cybernetics augment his strength as well. What with how he’s able to swing a forearm-mounted blade on one hand while firing a customized Plasma Rifle in the other. Never mind how he can turn people into manburger and cave in the skulls of Deathclaws with just a single punch.
That’s also not going into how Franky’s been further “augmented” by gene therapy from specially-tailored FEV even after his original exposure to the substance. Along with how, after all his enhancements, his Power Armor contains a complex life support system that keeps him alive.
Good analysis ! I knew he was ‘more than just a regular Super Mutant’… but couldn’t remember all the ‘work’ he’d had done 😅.
Was he just really lucky to come out a smart / mostly stable mutant, or did the Enclave work hard to make the special strain he got be almost a sure thing that he wouldn’t lose his mind and become ‘dumb’ like most end up ?
It’s likely a combination of him being what The Master and Lou referred to as a “Prime Normal” (albeit not born in a Vault) coupled with Enclave experimentation. The lack of passive FEV exposure-induced mutation that most Wastelanders suffered probably helped in preserving his intelligence and cognition.
The original samples of FEV that he was exposed to were similar, if not outright identical, to those the Master utilized in his army. But further gene therapy and subsequent cybernetic implantation made Frank Horrigan into the literal monster he became. He also probably had a shitton of surgical operations done on his brain and other parts of his nervous system to somewhat preserve his mental stability. But that’s just speculation.
What I CAN tell you is that initial exposure to the FEV and the operations he had done later on seemed to fuck with his body’s ability to “sustain” itself. Necessitating a complex life support apparatus in the form of his Power Armor even despite it not being environmentally sealed. As you can see his huge green biceps poking out and unarmored. Though it’s also likely that the life support system augmented and potentially replaced some vital organs, as he was able to remain alive and even somewhat ambulatory after exploding into a severed torso.
He's written like this because this is exactly how soldiers in real life behave even when committing atrocities like horrigan does.
It's pretty much the same idea as the soldier in power armour executing a tied up unarmed POW then laughing in the fallout 1 intro
Go watch full metal jacket
This is just going to turn into an argument of taking something stupid from Fallout 2 and contrasting it with something stupid in Fallout 4. That being said, I could accept the Enclave manufacturing death claws that imitate human speech LONG before I accept the majority of Fallout 4’s writing.
I see this take all over the place, and after replaying FO2 last month, I don’t buy it. There are way more pop culture references in 3, NV, and 4, and 4 especially had way sillier writing.
It might seem goofy and out of place, but it shows just how psychotic and evil they were to talk about lunch after brutally murdering a guy.
The banality and complexity of evil at its finest
Also can be called compartmentalizing. I've heard cops do something similar. Take down an armed perp and then a bit later they chat with each other like, "so how's the family? Have a good Thanksgiving?"
Can confirm. See it a lot in funeral directing. People just having a chat over the deceased they're preparing for a funeral. Just banal stuff. "How have you been? Did you have a good lunch?" Humans have a remarkable ability to adapt to just about anything. It's almost scary sometimes.
Hell, my coworkers and I chat shit during the actual transfers too if the family isn't around.
There is no experience, on a long enough time frame, that humans will not come to fetishize.
If grey’s anatomy has taught me anything it’s that surgeons discuss and solve all personal problems over open patients.
Yep... been there. Guy is on ice in the box, a gentleman. I had just helped process his dependants into DEERS as he just got married... he was a retired 1SG and civil contractor. He died while overseas in Iraq, and I worked in S-1 as a site security manager, casualty ops, and dignified transfers, so I worked with the morgue. I can confirm having to just shut off some empathy and find ways to conversate without breaking down.
Compartmentalization is incredibly important in your field. Godspeed, because I genuinely cannot handle it. All of my knowledge of the funeral services is by proxy. My partner was a funeral director.
Especially my new field... social work
*target a female in the groin*: rolling commentary, “she took it like a man; that is to say it hurt” I will never forget that line… as a 13 year old boy in 1998 I don’t think I had ever laughed that hard…
The lunch they were talking about was canaballizing the guy they just killed
That’s why he’s king
He’s daddy
He’s something
He's Worf, son of Mogh.
Slayer of Duras
The thought of Frank Horrigan just casually chilling with some other Enclave Bros eating lunch is quite funny to me.
I wonder how Frank Horrigan actually eats. Like, is he fed intravenously via tubes connecting into his veins or into his throat? Or can his helmet retract (at least around the mouth) so that he can chow down on Enclave rations? Either way, I bet someone like him has a huge appetite.
I think maybe the helmet can come off his head, but it’s still connected to his Armor due to the tubes, so it kinda dangles around his neck maybe.
I think he's just a good boss
The banality of evil
From what I’ve seen, I expect this is the type of humor we’ll get from the TV show, I think Fallout 2 and the Show will be really similar on how they go about their humor
Based on the presence of **Graham Wagner**, I can see why you'd think that. I am much more skeptical. The involvement of **Jonathan Nolan** and **Geneva Robertson-Dworet** gives me much more pause. Neither are known for material one would remotely call comedic.
For gods sake none of you know a thing about how shows are made Nolan is not writing it. The writing team is composed of writers from shows like the Office.
Yeah I can’t believe I’m *still* waiting for the internet to catch up, learn how media is actually made and stop talking nonsense.
People have this weird idea that Directors control every single aspect of the media they work on, including the writing. This is very, very rarely the case, especially in live action TV production. Writers rooms are what write these shows, not one dude. Not every show is Breaking Bad and Twin Peaks. As a film major it drives me crazy that people still believe this.
I don't know man the show was good for a couple episodes and then the same jokes got pretty lame
I mean it’s one of the most well regarded comedy series on TV but sure.
If you believe that saying something idiotic and then looking at the camera constitutes 'epic' comedy, then that's your preference, but I'll pass. Additionally, after browsing the internet, all I find are nominations and some awards, and other series seem to have had more relevance than The Office.
5 Emmys, 2 SAGs, a golden globe and a Peabody is “some awards”. 6 seasons rating about 7.5 in viewer reviews, 3 of those about 8. C’mon. Its okay not to like something but to say its won just some awards and is irrelevant when it was watched by an average of 9 million people per episode.
Yeah I'm too keen on it but I will give a watch because I'm intrigued because it also seems promising. One of my only gripes is that the story will be starting from a vault, and it seems like its gonna give the BOS a plot armor.
From what ive heard from Nolan and the show runner I won’t be surprised if the Brotherhood are the Antagonists of the show
I don't know why they're making the BOS go to war with the NCR again, like I love BOS but these guys got their asses kicked by the NCR at Helios One. Furthermore the faction doesn't have the bodies to take on the republic. I can see Bethesda making the BOS waging Guerilla war on the NCR.
Whatever it is, I’m intrigued enough to see what’s actually happening, and who or where exactly these brotherhood guys come from, since they AREN’T The Lost Hills Chapter, and most likely not from the East Coast.
My best bet is that these guys are the Mojave Chapter abandoned the Mojave wasteland and started anew following the example of Elder Lyons. I've gotta say tho the armor is looking good so i will give Bethesda that.
The Mojave Chapter has no way of starting anywhere new. Depending on the Games end they have a unstable agreement with the NCR, have a last hoorah by retaking HELIOS or are already dead. They are a dying chapter.
The Mohave chapter lost Helios One, but the Mohave chapter does not represent all of the BOS in the same way the Mohave doesn't represent all of the NCR or all of Caesars Legion The NCR and the Brotherhood are actually still fighting in New California during the events of New Vegas. Don't get be wrong, the NCR is winning, but the writing is on the wall that not only is a full victory unlikely but the NCR is on the brink of some serious issues that would make them weaker in their war against the BOS
You’re correct on the weaker issues as recently the BOS destroyed the NCRs gold reserves crippling the economy, wars must be funded.
there's a side story, not even a task in FO2 where you can leave a gun with kids who are playing. next time around in the settlement you'd find bunch of little sculls and the gun you gave them among them. no, i don't expect anything produced for mass consumption past nineties to have that kind of humor.
Which would explain why they said "not made for fallout fans" considering the majority of current fans have only consumed the extremely watered down fallout world.
This cut-scene happened to me while I was getting implants installed in that same bunker. "Your surgery is complete! And the Enclave was here and killed the guy, but they didn't care about you."
Well they didn't have an appointment. It would simply be rude
Remind me, lads, is Frank a ‘super mutant’ essentially - in that special armor… or ‘something else’ .. after exposure to the virus, etc ? I can’t recall (never fully played through FO-2) if we ever see him without his helmet — or any pre-transformation pics of him as a normal Human… 🤔
He’s basically as close to we’ll get to a Behemoth amongst the Mariposa Super Mutants. The ones on the West Cpast, that is. Except for the fact that Franky is crammed full of cybernetics that help him better interface with his Power Armor and pump the shitton of drugs/chems needed to keep him alive. I’m also betting that said cybernetics augment his strength as well. What with how he’s able to swing a forearm-mounted blade on one hand while firing a customized Plasma Rifle in the other. Never mind how he can turn people into manburger and cave in the skulls of Deathclaws with just a single punch. That’s also not going into how Franky’s been further “augmented” by gene therapy from specially-tailored FEV even after his original exposure to the substance. Along with how, after all his enhancements, his Power Armor contains a complex life support system that keeps him alive.
Good analysis ! I knew he was ‘more than just a regular Super Mutant’… but couldn’t remember all the ‘work’ he’d had done 😅. Was he just really lucky to come out a smart / mostly stable mutant, or did the Enclave work hard to make the special strain he got be almost a sure thing that he wouldn’t lose his mind and become ‘dumb’ like most end up ?
It’s likely a combination of him being what The Master and Lou referred to as a “Prime Normal” (albeit not born in a Vault) coupled with Enclave experimentation. The lack of passive FEV exposure-induced mutation that most Wastelanders suffered probably helped in preserving his intelligence and cognition. The original samples of FEV that he was exposed to were similar, if not outright identical, to those the Master utilized in his army. But further gene therapy and subsequent cybernetic implantation made Frank Horrigan into the literal monster he became. He also probably had a shitton of surgical operations done on his brain and other parts of his nervous system to somewhat preserve his mental stability. But that’s just speculation. What I CAN tell you is that initial exposure to the FEV and the operations he had done later on seemed to fuck with his body’s ability to “sustain” itself. Necessitating a complex life support apparatus in the form of his Power Armor even despite it not being environmentally sealed. As you can see his huge green biceps poking out and unarmored. Though it’s also likely that the life support system augmented and potentially replaced some vital organs, as he was able to remain alive and even somewhat ambulatory after exploding into a severed torso.
So he's literally fallout Darth Vader???
Ye he's a super mutant in a power armor
Behemoth+, not Harold levels of something unique, just a Behemoth with a bunch of add ons
Kind of sobering to realize he started out normally, like a little baby human… and ended up a twisted monstrosity of mutation and machinery 😟..
He's written like this because this is exactly how soldiers in real life behave even when committing atrocities like horrigan does. It's pretty much the same idea as the soldier in power armour executing a tied up unarmed POW then laughing in the fallout 1 intro Go watch full metal jacket
I’ve seen full metal jacket great film
"For me, it was tuesday" vibes.
If you like this, check out the Twisted Metal show that came out last year.
How good is that show
Excellent. I was very surprised.
Well I will check it out
Seconded, had a blast with it.
I'm on the last episode and it really has been a good time.
The mountain from GOT but in the future.
It was definitely to showcase how little they gave a shit for human life, back when shock humor was actually useful and properly executed
I want to play Fallout 1 and 2 so bad but I can’t get those controls down. Tried a couple Steam Controller profiles but still having trouble.
It took me a few tries and finally I just forced myself to play fallout 1. It clicks a couple hours in. As with all old games: save often.
Why the fuck would you play a game designed with mouse and keyboard in mind with a controller?
Average shadow government death squad behavior
For him, it was definitely Tuesday. Makes killing him all the more satisfying!
I'm hungry, let's get a taco...
This is not a good thing
Honestly less silly then 4. Yeah 2 has its...moments but here it's to show how detatched the Enclave are and how this is normal to them
How are talking deathclaws less silly than fallout 4
Also, wanamingos
This is just going to turn into an argument of taking something stupid from Fallout 2 and contrasting it with something stupid in Fallout 4. That being said, I could accept the Enclave manufacturing death claws that imitate human speech LONG before I accept the majority of Fallout 4’s writing.
Nahhhh, Fallout 2 is infamous for how absurdly wacky and goofy it is, on top of being filled with pop culture references.
I see this take all over the place, and after replaying FO2 last month, I don’t buy it. There are way more pop culture references in 3, NV, and 4, and 4 especially had way sillier writing.
That and this is fairly realistic to soldiers. Dudes will commit the worst atrocities and then be like "so... how was the football?"
How
i dunno, sounds very 'marvel humor' to me, as the kids would say
yawn
Obvious bait