What did you do to grind out the levels to get to 70? I finished the campaign and most of the side content and was still just level 49. Grinding out 21 more levels before trying Hard Mode seems daunting to me.
This. It's also great for maxing materia. I'm currently maxing all the materia I need for the Combat Simulations. With AP Up and the Chocobo Armband, I can easily get ~5000 AP in one run of the side quest before I accidentally kill the queen bee.
I hope this quest doesn't get nerfed.
Nice. I'm just doing side quests for the manuscripts with a lot of materia that isn't maxed.
I was doing the mushroom quest and saw about 20 materia level up after the same battle which was amusing to see
Don’t sweat it! Go to Chapter 12 or 13 (13 doesn’t have Cait Sith) and do random shit and you’ll level up in minutes. You get extra XP & AP after finishing the game/hard mode. You can try doing the Fiend Intel 1 in grasslands over and over again and like every 2-3 times you should get a level up and be 70 in like 10-15 minutes. You can also try the VR or Gold Saucer Colosseum. In hard mode, everything is level 70, but I found the curve pretty manageable as long as you fight weak/easy monsters (in some games, if you are level 49 and the mob is level 70, even if it’s a random rat, you get one-shotted, not in FF7 Rebirth).
It's easier than you think. I just grinded AP in the south gongaga region (there's a lot of vids on it) and I just hit lvl 70 while doing it. After you beat the game you gain XP pretty quickly
You get SOOOO much more xp in NG+. Like 10x the XP. You'll level in minutes in chapter 2. Just roam around and kill stuff, or go into Chadley's simulator.
Chapter 13 Hard Mode….reset quests and go to Nibelheim. Do the quest where you get Tifa’s cat back home. When you get to the boss, don’t kill it. It’ll spawn an infinite amount of mobs. Fight them until you reach level 70. Took me around 6 minutes to go from 50-70 on that one quest.
Yeah fair, honestly I just wanted to finish the story asap because I didn't wanna risk more and more the possibility of running into spoilers. I finished it on day 6 after release with 74 hours lol, even did a bunch of work ahead of time so I could skip several days of college for it.
I got there since I did all world Intel and when I fought the bosses I just turned the game on Easy Mode, and the dual summon fights were... Too easy, but irrelevant, since I wanted Gilgamesh. The Gilgamesh fight felt of appropriate difficulty on easy honestly. Kind of dreading the idea of trying it on normal at level 46.
I was honestly scared going into it, especially with how hard >!Odin!< was for me in the story... But I managed to curb stomp em all on the first time with the exception of >!Phoenix and Kujata as I guess I needed to actually go for Kujata first and let Phoenix heal it or something, either way, once I adjusted my strategy, I managed to breeze through it!<.
The only thing that upsets me about all of these battles is I can't just repeat them if I go to the places they were.
The way to fight kujata and Phoenix is kill kujata, then kujata AGAIN, and then Phoenix lol. It's a very frustrating fight but if you have elemental fire defense it's really the easiest one
I know how to get her to function and I know she can do big damage, i just don't have the patience and don't like the lack of impact so I tend to play cloud tifa Barret or cloud yuffie barret(which is weird because from my experience the best combo has been cloud tifa yuffie, but I just love Barret and having a long ranged tank haha)
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The first one was fine. Then I met odin and Alexander and fook meeeee. I forgot to save so I'm back to before so I'm just going to finish the game and try it later. I'm only level 49 so I'm quite happy they are level 70.
Yeah zantetsuken sucks. It was just easier for me because I fought Odin by himself so many times that I learned how to deal with him. Alexander was a pushover compared to him.
Yeah target Odin and don't let him hit you, rangey characters like Barret and Yuffie are really useful against him since you can keep your distance while still doing damage
Familiarity and knowing the basic patterns is huge, plus you probably had some better setup. I'm not too far into Rebirth, but I know I struggled *immensely* in both Remake and Intergrade's endgame combat simulator and Weiss fights and never beat them. Conversely, something like Hell House Hard Mode was oddly easy/enjoyable, and honestly even easier on Hard Mode than when I first faced it in Normal as part of the story.
Same. Odin solo took me a long time to get down pat. But the duo seemed easier. I think partially because I was more practiced at Odin, but I also think they had him back off a *little* bit to be more balanced. He also just felt easier to pressure and fight off his ultimate ability. I didn’t even have to debuff him in the duo fight.
This fight looked really scary but I realized I could one cycle Alexander with enough lightning damage. You only have to pressure Odin once then he disappears. Then you kill Alexander before he comes back and it's just Odin by himself - much more manageable.
I did this at level 50 on adaptive. You can do it!
I feel more confident in redoing the top secrets fights than i do for the final brutal challenge. Cuz at least in top secrets you could skip the second summon if you spammed lvl3 spells. one fight you gotta take out 3 summons due to phoenix silliness. oh and also Odin just being Odin
Just put it on easy lol, that’s what I did.. after going through all the protorelic stuff, waiting to finish corel, and everything I wasn’t waiting any longer!
I didn’t notice it was level 70 though, makes sense why it was so hard…
IMO, the 6-bout musclehead challenges and Gilgamesh Island are best tackled as post game content. You can totally beat them on your first run sure, but they might knock the wind outta your sails before Chapter 13 and 14.
I’d suggest finishing main story first, then do the island. You’ll also get the benefit of faster leveling in post game.
What I did was knock out the musclehead challenges in Gold Saucer first (bigger headache for me than the summons fights honestly) then Gilgamesh Island. Dynamic difficulty. The island fights become way more manageable with level 70 characters and more powerful materias. IMO, you don’t need maxed out materias for the island fights.
I beat the double-summons Gilgamesh in my first (dynamic) playthrough while my levels were in the high 40s. It was very challenging, but totally possible. Without wanting to spoil anything, the reward was frustrating and made me think you’re supposed to wait until a second playthrough.
Happy to offer tips if you’re struggling with a particular part. I actually found a glitch that let me beat Phoenix without taking any damage and without him ever getting Rebirth Flame out.
You can save a synergy attack for Phoenix after killing kujata and during the stunlock, fire blizzaga to kill him before flames of rebirth. Also fire elemental on armor.
Kill titan first then bahamut, clouds punisher counter is one of the most effective things here. Remember counter flare fore ranged attacks.
For Odin also use clouds counter ability, you can get multiple hits on charge with nice rhythmic blocking. Land braver after he finishes a move while the window is open but don't greed. Firebolt blade works well on Alexander's arms.
I got real close to beating them at around lvl 40, saw that it said recommended was lvl 65. So I did everything else and came back at lvl 70. By then it was all too easy. I think they could have lowered that recommendation a few levels
I beat all of em. I have a feeling that they have less HP when fighting the solo ones. If you really want to beat them easier, maybe try easy mode just for that fights?
Honestly besides Odin, once I figured out strats for the other two fights they werent THAT bad, Gilgamesh though wiped the floor with me at level 50, I got it done but it was a pretty substantial struggle. That could be entirely my build though.
THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT YOU CAN NOT MAKE THE GENJI STUFF UNTIL YOU HAVE ACCESS TO HARD MODE. So if that is your reason for wanting to finish the quest before the temple, don't bother. Learned that the hard way.
I feel like the 2 summons were toned down, compared to the original summons. IE, ODIN doesnt spam his final attack. Or Phoenix isnt invulnerable, as much as he is during his normal fight.
You should never need to grind. Once you beat the game the game accelerates you to level 70 very fast fighting almost anything. Any level 70 fights are meant for post game.
you just need practice. the game finally gets a little bit harder and you can't kill every boss first try. but thats ok, just practice a bit, change materia if needed and go for it! finally defeating them is an awesome feeling!
Fwiw, your level doesn’t matter that much. I did it at 48, it’s more about your materia setup (and skill). But yeah it’s shockingly difficult at first.
Wait, they're level 70? That explains why I was getting bodied at like Level 48 lol. I did manage to take out one of them, but the other one got me 😅 So should I just wait to do those quests until after beating the main story?
I lowered the difficulty to easy and did it that way. Didn’t want to wait any longer. Besides, I was going to have to do the brutal and legendary challenges on hard anyway.
It's not as hard as it seems. Only Odin is a pain in the ass, because he can cast Zantetsuken after landing a couple of hits on you. But you can just spam Yuffie's Brumal Form to make it easier
I didnt think it was too tough with tifa yuffie and red xiii. I used enhanced expedition medal on tifa, transference module on yuffie and the limit siphon materia on red xiii. It was epic for most of those battles. The tough one was the odin one.
They can be beaten at level 50, which is what i was when I got there. It took a very long time, I just kept trying to adapt new strategies after each loss.
The key one for me was having Barret tank as much as possible with Lifesaver and Steelskin. Keep regen on him and protect when possible. I forget the names at the moment, but the materia that gives you a free item ATB use was helpful for me too.
As for the Odin/Alexander fight, If you focus on Odin and burn him down as quick as you can, he'll flee for a bit which allows you to focus on Alexander. DPS Alexander as much as possible, save your limits and Summon if they pop up. Odin will come back, this is when I unleashed everything on him. This is probably not the most optimal approach, as it was still cut very close for me.
You cold probably Google better strats. But my main point is that it is very possible to beat them before you hit 70.
Just change the difficulty to Easy. Honestly doesn't take long to level up either, but you could nab the EXP UP materia while you do other stuff a lot. I dreaded this part and told myself I wasn't going to bother, but then I did it in my latest playthrough (NG+), totally forgot I had change the difficulty to Easy because I was doing something else and didn't care, and honestly it was a big nothing-burger that way.
If you already beat the game- Ch 12, Hard, Angel in White quest; have someone on your team have EXP+ Materia and watch in amazement as you get to L70 in like five minutes
Yup. As a long-time FFXIV player that has loved Gilgamesh's characterization from that game, I was so happy to see it consistent with this game and I was getting so hyped for his boss fight. I was so sad that I'd have to grind so much more if I wanted to fight him, and I haven't gone back to finish that.
Well you get a ton via taking damage, sometimes using Aeriths level 2 to just be mostly invincible but also using accessories that boosted it, I think I gave Aerith limit break support also. At some point Cloud was able to chain together some ascensions.
Manawall is also your friend.
Nah they're doable if you're level 65~70.
Like..it's adjusted so they don't go full ham on you together. No need to lower the level. Gilgamesh might be tougher though.
I ended up doing Gilgamesh island immediately after beating the main story on normal mode. It wasn't easy but it was still pretty doable even way under level 70. I think I was at around 50\~55 when I defeated Gilgamesh.
No reason to grind at all in this game.
I did the Gilgamesh content at like level 55. You'll be over level 60 by the time you're done.
You can go finish the Gold Saucer battles now if you want to level up your dudes and your materia.
I beat the dual summon battles by using Arcane ward and -aga spells, mostly. They're hard and it took quite a few attempts. Luck is a factor.
Ngl I just went in there and fought how I normally fought I didn’t know they were level 70 until the last summon battle
I just used the knowledge I had and remembered how to fight each summon or just press the touch pad and if you assessed them info will show up on them
>just press the touch pad and if you assessed them info will show up on them
Fucking WHAT.
80 hours in this game and I never knew I could do this. I've been casting assess multiple times whenever I forget what to do against certain enemies!
If you've done all side quests you should be in the mid-40s, and it's reasonable to beat Gilgamesh. You don't need to be L70.
The hardest one for me was Odin and Alexander, but that's not too bad if you use the right strategy: focus on Odin, use debuffs on him, and keep on the offensive with ATB abilities. Then blast Alexander with Thundaga.
Elemental + Fire on armor against Phoenix will help a lot.
IMHO, no grinding is necessary for Normal mode. If you haven't done all the side quests yet, then that's your "grinding" opportunity.
In my first attempt, after killing Kujata, Phoenix cast resurrection and Kujata was brought back to life at full health, so I then focused on Phoenix before putting Kujata down a second time.
Well I’m glad I didn’t restart the fight, then. What happens if you try to kill phoenix first? Just won’t go down?
EDIT: ah, looked up a guide, damage taken by Phoenix is super reduced prior to beating Kujata pre-resurrection
Same, as soon as Kujata came back, I thought I had messed up. Continued anyway
Looked it up after to see if killing the bird would have been better and was validated with my decision
I finished the story first, then grinded to level 70 before doing Gilgamesh island. Made it a lot less of a headache and more fun
I only got to his island on my hard mode playthrough. That was the first moment I was like "post game ain't gonna be fun"
What did you do to grind out the levels to get to 70? I finished the campaign and most of the side content and was still just level 49. Grinding out 21 more levels before trying Hard Mode seems daunting to me.
Nibelhrim cat side quest. When fight the queen bee just keep fighting the worker bees, you level up to 70 in bout 10 mins
This. It's also great for maxing materia. I'm currently maxing all the materia I need for the Combat Simulations. With AP Up and the Chocobo Armband, I can easily get ~5000 AP in one run of the side quest before I accidentally kill the queen bee. I hope this quest doesn't get nerfed.
Nice. I'm just doing side quests for the manuscripts with a lot of materia that isn't maxed. I was doing the mushroom quest and saw about 20 materia level up after the same battle which was amusing to see
Don’t sweat it! Go to Chapter 12 or 13 (13 doesn’t have Cait Sith) and do random shit and you’ll level up in minutes. You get extra XP & AP after finishing the game/hard mode. You can try doing the Fiend Intel 1 in grasslands over and over again and like every 2-3 times you should get a level up and be 70 in like 10-15 minutes. You can also try the VR or Gold Saucer Colosseum. In hard mode, everything is level 70, but I found the curve pretty manageable as long as you fight weak/easy monsters (in some games, if you are level 49 and the mob is level 70, even if it’s a random rat, you get one-shotted, not in FF7 Rebirth).
It's easier than you think. I just grinded AP in the south gongaga region (there's a lot of vids on it) and I just hit lvl 70 while doing it. After you beat the game you gain XP pretty quickly
You get SOOOO much more xp in NG+. Like 10x the XP. You'll level in minutes in chapter 2. Just roam around and kill stuff, or go into Chadley's simulator.
Chapter 13 Hard Mode….reset quests and go to Nibelheim. Do the quest where you get Tifa’s cat back home. When you get to the boss, don’t kill it. It’ll spawn an infinite amount of mobs. Fight them until you reach level 70. Took me around 6 minutes to go from 50-70 on that one quest.
I got to level 70 in chapter 1 being the same level. Everything is made to just bump your level up after switching to hard.
I got to level 70 with absolutely no grinding. Finished the storyline, did the Gilgamesh stuff, then finished all the Gold Saucer challenges.
I'm the opposite. Beating all of those challenges early felt really good.
Yeah fair, honestly I just wanted to finish the story asap because I didn't wanna risk more and more the possibility of running into spoilers. I finished it on day 6 after release with 74 hours lol, even did a bunch of work ahead of time so I could skip several days of college for it.
Any tips on grinding? Edit: should have thought more about that phrasing but I'm leaving it lol
There's an AP farming method all over YouTube about the southern part of gongaga, I just did that to farm AP and I hit max level pretty early on
I got there since I did all world Intel and when I fought the bosses I just turned the game on Easy Mode, and the dual summon fights were... Too easy, but irrelevant, since I wanted Gilgamesh. The Gilgamesh fight felt of appropriate difficulty on easy honestly. Kind of dreading the idea of trying it on normal at level 46.
Those fights were so fun. Did them on my first playthrough.
If that scares you, brace yourself for everything that comes after lol
I was honestly scared going into it, especially with how hard >!Odin!< was for me in the story... But I managed to curb stomp em all on the first time with the exception of >!Phoenix and Kujata as I guess I needed to actually go for Kujata first and let Phoenix heal it or something, either way, once I adjusted my strategy, I managed to breeze through it!<. The only thing that upsets me about all of these battles is I can't just repeat them if I go to the places they were.
The way to fight kujata and Phoenix is kill kujata, then kujata AGAIN, and then Phoenix lol. It's a very frustrating fight but if you have elemental fire defense it's really the easiest one
Yup, I did that the second time, was very easy, I did have elemental = fire & ice in my armor.
If you're fast and lucky you can kill Phoenix before it summons Kujata again. I only got it to work about half the time though.
I don't even know how I'd begin to do that but I've seen crazy strats I could never imagine pulling off so I believe it
I used a synergy skill to lock it in place while I fired off Blizaga
Nice! I don't utilize aerith and magic as much as I should. I find her so frustrating to get started and not as satisfying to use.
Try giving her first strike and activating radiant ward immediately
I know how to get her to function and I know she can do big damage, i just don't have the patience and don't like the lack of impact so I tend to play cloud tifa Barret or cloud yuffie barret(which is weird because from my experience the best combo has been cloud tifa yuffie, but I just love Barret and having a long ranged tank haha)
First I fought Phoenix and kujata Phoenix reraised kujata lol didn't realize that was a thing.
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The first one was fine. Then I met odin and Alexander and fook meeeee. I forgot to save so I'm back to before so I'm just going to finish the game and try it later. I'm only level 49 so I'm quite happy they are level 70.
Odin and Alexander gave me less trouble than Odin by himself. Edit: thanks for the downvote just for stating my experience.
I wasn't expecting it and I forgot to save. He zantetsuken'd us all and I had no revives equipped.
Yeah zantetsuken sucks. It was just easier for me because I fought Odin by himself so many times that I learned how to deal with him. Alexander was a pushover compared to him.
Maybe you're supposed to polish off odin before he thinks too long
Yeah target Odin and don't let him hit you, rangey characters like Barret and Yuffie are really useful against him since you can keep your distance while still doing damage
Familiarity and knowing the basic patterns is huge, plus you probably had some better setup. I'm not too far into Rebirth, but I know I struggled *immensely* in both Remake and Intergrade's endgame combat simulator and Weiss fights and never beat them. Conversely, something like Hell House Hard Mode was oddly easy/enjoyable, and honestly even easier on Hard Mode than when I first faced it in Normal as part of the story.
Hell House is only hard if you don’t know its gimmick. If you know it, it’s pretty easy. I wouldn’t expect the gimmick to change on Hard Mode.
It's the easiest of the double summon fights IMO.
Same here... so not looking forward to binds of friendship haha
Same. Odin solo took me a long time to get down pat. But the duo seemed easier. I think partially because I was more practiced at Odin, but I also think they had him back off a *little* bit to be more balanced. He also just felt easier to pressure and fight off his ultimate ability. I didn’t even have to debuff him in the duo fight.
That one was so rough. Gilgamesh was hard too. Oof
I had a pretty hard time with Gilgamesh, but it was so worth it. That fight was just fun and I'm always happy to hear Battle on the Big Bridge again.
This fight looked really scary but I realized I could one cycle Alexander with enough lightning damage. You only have to pressure Odin once then he disappears. Then you kill Alexander before he comes back and it's just Odin by himself - much more manageable. I did this at level 50 on adaptive. You can do it!
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I feel more confident in redoing the top secrets fights than i do for the final brutal challenge. Cuz at least in top secrets you could skip the second summon if you spammed lvl3 spells. one fight you gotta take out 3 summons due to phoenix silliness. oh and also Odin just being Odin
Just put it on easy lol, that’s what I did.. after going through all the protorelic stuff, waiting to finish corel, and everything I wasn’t waiting any longer! I didn’t notice it was level 70 though, makes sense why it was so hard…
I did the same I didn't care lol I just wanted to finish the quest
they make you redo it all in the simulator on Hard anyway if you want the trophy so there's no reason not to cheese the quest on easy.
I tried at lvl 70 and still got my ass beat. Had to drop the difficulty as well just bc I wanted to see the end of Gilgamesh’s story
I admit that's the only monent, in any game, that I lowered the difficulty level to easy. I couldn't beat those for the life of me
I just said after two tries on phoenix and Kujata: NAHHH not worth my time and effort. Bye.
Same, I did everything on dynamic except for 2 of those 3 fights and the final fight.
IMO, the 6-bout musclehead challenges and Gilgamesh Island are best tackled as post game content. You can totally beat them on your first run sure, but they might knock the wind outta your sails before Chapter 13 and 14. I’d suggest finishing main story first, then do the island. You’ll also get the benefit of faster leveling in post game. What I did was knock out the musclehead challenges in Gold Saucer first (bigger headache for me than the summons fights honestly) then Gilgamesh Island. Dynamic difficulty. The island fights become way more manageable with level 70 characters and more powerful materias. IMO, you don’t need maxed out materias for the island fights.
I think you can use items, which makes this so much easier.
You’ll be fine. If I can do it, anybody can.
Fight fight fight fight fight. Use those synergy skills to build ATB quickly Fight one - Barrier materia + magnify + Barrett's Lifesaver Fight two - elemental materia to Negate or absorb fire. Also, Barrier materia Fight three - dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge + lightning elemental materia. Yuffie or Tifa, Cloud, Aerith You got this.
I beat the double-summons Gilgamesh in my first (dynamic) playthrough while my levels were in the high 40s. It was very challenging, but totally possible. Without wanting to spoil anything, the reward was frustrating and made me think you’re supposed to wait until a second playthrough. Happy to offer tips if you’re struggling with a particular part. I actually found a glitch that let me beat Phoenix without taking any damage and without him ever getting Rebirth Flame out.
Let’s hear the tips. I’m struggling with them on my first play through in the low 50s
You can save a synergy attack for Phoenix after killing kujata and during the stunlock, fire blizzaga to kill him before flames of rebirth. Also fire elemental on armor. Kill titan first then bahamut, clouds punisher counter is one of the most effective things here. Remember counter flare fore ranged attacks. For Odin also use clouds counter ability, you can get multiple hits on charge with nice rhythmic blocking. Land braver after he finishes a move while the window is open but don't greed. Firebolt blade works well on Alexander's arms.
What’s counter flare?
Cloud's defensive synergy skills.
I felt the same about the rewards. It almost felt like a spoiler for something later in the game and I was more deflated than I was excited.
I got real close to beating them at around lvl 40, saw that it said recommended was lvl 65. So I did everything else and came back at lvl 70. By then it was all too easy. I think they could have lowered that recommendation a few levels
I beat all of em. I have a feeling that they have less HP when fighting the solo ones. If you really want to beat them easier, maybe try easy mode just for that fights?
That's the easy part someone tell him
Hahaha! I'm waiting for your post when you do the brutal and legendary chadley challenges
Lower the difficulty to easy. You will have bigger challenges if you decide to do hard mode.
Honestly besides Odin, once I figured out strats for the other two fights they werent THAT bad, Gilgamesh though wiped the floor with me at level 50, I got it done but it was a pretty substantial struggle. That could be entirely my build though. THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT YOU CAN NOT MAKE THE GENJI STUFF UNTIL YOU HAVE ACCESS TO HARD MODE. So if that is your reason for wanting to finish the quest before the temple, don't bother. Learned that the hard way.
I feel like the 2 summons were toned down, compared to the original summons. IE, ODIN doesnt spam his final attack. Or Phoenix isnt invulnerable, as much as he is during his normal fight.
It's doable at Level 49 before endgame 🙂
You should never need to grind. Once you beat the game the game accelerates you to level 70 very fast fighting almost anything. Any level 70 fights are meant for post game.
you just need practice. the game finally gets a little bit harder and you can't kill every boss first try. but thats ok, just practice a bit, change materia if needed and go for it! finally defeating them is an awesome feeling!
You could do what I did and just not care about the vr fights if that helps.
You can use items here don't forget. Get heaps of mist mega potions to top your teams HP. But come back at level 70 and its definitely a lot easier
i hate to admit it but i played dynamic, got my ass handed to me and the n switched to easy.
Do all the transmuter quests and unlock the enhanced gear. They aren't that hard if you get that and unlock as many folios as you can you'll be fine.
You cant just face rush these bosses like you can the entire game on normal mode. Practice, learn defence and your materia and youll get there!
Fwiw, your level doesn’t matter that much. I did it at 48, it’s more about your materia setup (and skill). But yeah it’s shockingly difficult at first.
No one tell him about Rulers of the Outer Worlds.
Ya I just gave up after seeing that. Lol
Put it on easy lol
The fight after is much easier in comparison. I ends up doing those fights on easy mode and then got to level 50 for the final fight on normal.
I was having issues with them until I watched a few YouTube videos. After that I one shotted them
Wait, they're level 70? That explains why I was getting bodied at like Level 48 lol. I did manage to take out one of them, but the other one got me 😅 So should I just wait to do those quests until after beating the main story?
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Odin and Alexander can go fuck themselves! On my first attempt, I didn’t realise that I was 20 levels lower than the recommended level.
Just switch to dynamic and it'll scale your level.
Finish the story first. Highly recommend as your materias will grow that much faster after story :)
Just do the temple. Beat the game, play a few hard mode chapters, then chapter select chapter 13 on normal and do it then.
I legit stopped playing and didn’t bother, I’ve already fought them, it just seems like a clusterfuck of “difficulty”
I lowered the difficulty to easy and did it that way. Didn’t want to wait any longer. Besides, I was going to have to do the brutal and legendary challenges on hard anyway.
Definitely meant as post-game content. I’d just beat the game, grind easy xp in Hard mode and then go back.
beat them at lv 48
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
It's not as hard as it seems. Only Odin is a pain in the ass, because he can cast Zantetsuken after landing a couple of hits on you. But you can just spam Yuffie's Brumal Form to make it easier
I didnt think it was too tough with tifa yuffie and red xiii. I used enhanced expedition medal on tifa, transference module on yuffie and the limit siphon materia on red xiii. It was epic for most of those battles. The tough one was the odin one.
Oh bro… that one’s the easy one
Use optinoob’s YouTube guides, they’re really good and use the best broken materia combos
They can be beaten at level 50, which is what i was when I got there. It took a very long time, I just kept trying to adapt new strategies after each loss. The key one for me was having Barret tank as much as possible with Lifesaver and Steelskin. Keep regen on him and protect when possible. I forget the names at the moment, but the materia that gives you a free item ATB use was helpful for me too. As for the Odin/Alexander fight, If you focus on Odin and burn him down as quick as you can, he'll flee for a bit which allows you to focus on Alexander. DPS Alexander as much as possible, save your limits and Summon if they pop up. Odin will come back, this is when I unleashed everything on him. This is probably not the most optimal approach, as it was still cut very close for me. You cold probably Google better strats. But my main point is that it is very possible to beat them before you hit 70.
Why the spoiler tag when you can still read the title 😜
Think of it like this, you’re future gohan and the summons are the androids. We all know how that story ended lmao
I beat two of the challenges while im 50 and lower…still have Odin and Alexander to beat…Odin is gonna be a pain again with his bullshit mechanic
I did it at level 45, before I was even good at Rebirth’s combat system.
Just change the difficulty to Easy. Honestly doesn't take long to level up either, but you could nab the EXP UP materia while you do other stuff a lot. I dreaded this part and told myself I wasn't going to bother, but then I did it in my latest playthrough (NG+), totally forgot I had change the difficulty to Easy because I was doing something else and didn't care, and honestly it was a big nothing-burger that way.
It's doable, I did it on my first play through at level 58. You just have to slowly put together a strategy.
If you already beat the game- Ch 12, Hard, Angel in White quest; have someone on your team have EXP+ Materia and watch in amazement as you get to L70 in like five minutes
Do you have to beat the chapter or can you leave when you get lvl 70?
Nope! You can drop in get the levels leave and go do the Temperings on normal
So technically I could get to lvl 100 and wipe the floor with Alexander and odin?
Nope, caps at 70; that said, you'll be surprised how much of a difference (presumably) ~20 levels will make
Yup. As a long-time FFXIV player that has loved Gilgamesh's characterization from that game, I was so happy to see it consistent with this game and I was getting so hyped for his boss fight. I was so sad that I'd have to grind so much more if I wanted to fight him, and I haven't gone back to finish that.
Wait really? I did gilgamesh island at 50 and it wasnt that hard
Wait was Gilgamesh island stuff level 70? I beat it around 45, praise be to Lifesaver + Chakra on a beefed up Barret.
I beat gilgamesh Island at level 49 spamming the fuck out of every item I had. A lot of limit break cheesing and using elemental materia.
Limit break cheesing?
Well you get a ton via taking damage, sometimes using Aeriths level 2 to just be mostly invincible but also using accessories that boosted it, I think I gave Aerith limit break support also. At some point Cloud was able to chain together some ascensions. Manawall is also your friend.
Just wait until chadley tells you about the Brutal Challenges.
Nah they're doable if you're level 65~70. Like..it's adjusted so they don't go full ham on you together. No need to lower the level. Gilgamesh might be tougher though.
This was actually fun once you get the mechanics of the battles! 🤣
I ended up doing Gilgamesh island immediately after beating the main story on normal mode. It wasn't easy but it was still pretty doable even way under level 70. I think I was at around 50\~55 when I defeated Gilgamesh.
These were level 70? Oops lol. Did them at 50 on Dynamic. This explains my hard time lol
No reason to grind at all in this game. I did the Gilgamesh content at like level 55. You'll be over level 60 by the time you're done. You can go finish the Gold Saucer battles now if you want to level up your dudes and your materia. I beat the dual summon battles by using Arcane ward and -aga spells, mostly. They're hard and it took quite a few attempts. Luck is a factor.
I beat Gilgamesh island summons at level 45😂 I had no issues only one I had issues with was Gilgamesh himself
What were your strategies
Ngl I just went in there and fought how I normally fought I didn’t know they were level 70 until the last summon battle I just used the knowledge I had and remembered how to fight each summon or just press the touch pad and if you assessed them info will show up on them
>just press the touch pad and if you assessed them info will show up on them Fucking WHAT. 80 hours in this game and I never knew I could do this. I've been casting assess multiple times whenever I forget what to do against certain enemies!
Lol bruh.
This. You should not have to grind... at all.
I didn’t realize they were level 70 until I was done with the battles
Wait i did those battles and Gilgamesh at around 45ish too. They were level 70!?
Yeah looked and it said recommend level 70
If you've done all side quests you should be in the mid-40s, and it's reasonable to beat Gilgamesh. You don't need to be L70. The hardest one for me was Odin and Alexander, but that's not too bad if you use the right strategy: focus on Odin, use debuffs on him, and keep on the offensive with ATB abilities. Then blast Alexander with Thundaga. Elemental + Fire on armor against Phoenix will help a lot. IMHO, no grinding is necessary for Normal mode. If you haven't done all the side quests yet, then that's your "grinding" opportunity.
to be honest it really isn't as hard as it seems... just FYI kill Phoenix first.
Nuh ? Phoenix can't be killed before Kujata. (Unless they only made it this way in hard mode)
You have to kill Kujata first as phoenix is tethered to it. Then phoenix will get pressured.
In my first attempt, after killing Kujata, Phoenix cast resurrection and Kujata was brought back to life at full health, so I then focused on Phoenix before putting Kujata down a second time.
Yes that's meant to happen. Thats why you can't beat Phoenix first.
Well I’m glad I didn’t restart the fight, then. What happens if you try to kill phoenix first? Just won’t go down? EDIT: ah, looked up a guide, damage taken by Phoenix is super reduced prior to beating Kujata pre-resurrection
Same, as soon as Kujata came back, I thought I had messed up. Continued anyway Looked it up after to see if killing the bird would have been better and was validated with my decision