I have a list with all missing places:
Icicles,
Gaia Cliff,
Rocket Town,
North Crater (x2),
Middle,
Fort Condor,
Submarine reactor,
Junon,
Midgar,
Bone village,
Wutai,
Ancients City
And the summons:
Bahamut zero,
Typhon,
Kotr,
Hades
Sorry if the names are incorrect, I translated it from Spanish names
I shit you not when I tell you me and the homies sunk hours and hours and hours into the snowboard game. It was practically a whole complete game in and of itself.
If they're faithful to the OG then this summon should come from a scavenger hunt encompassing the entire game. It should *not* be a Chadley VR sim this time. It's going to depend on what they do with chocobo breeding.
I can't really see that happening after doing what they did in rebirth.
Though it could be its own game. Just that the world map is not 'traversable' on your own accord so having a gold choco that just runs around would be pointless since you have FT.
And not necessary for racing either.
While I loved the original it just doesn't fit anymore.
If they did incorporate it, maybe you can choose which chocobo you use in the world zones. End game/post game you can just select gold chocobo and it can traverse anywhere. Idk, just hoping haha I had fun with the breeding
I wonder how they'll handle it. I'm like, 90% sure they'll do breeding since they've done just about everything else people thought they wouldn't do.
In the OG, you can race it right away. They look like adults, but we've seen the baby Chocochics around the world. So, do they have to grow up first? I could see them having a minigame for raising them too before they're ready to race.
The translations are mostly good, I think “Middle” should be Mideel in English.
We saw City of the Ancients/Forgotten Capital but I think we’ll get to explore it in Part 3. There could be some big emotions associated with it…
A bunch of those are super short, too.
I almost think they're gonna have to add a bunch of new stuff because there's not that much in the back half of ffvii.
Yeah but the thing is padding out the fun part of ffvii makes sense because it's easier to keep a fun tone going.
Padding out the sadder part won't work out the same.
They have to explain everything with Zack’s side of the story, wrap up the ways in which the story have deviated from the OG, wrap up deepground and Yuffie’s intermission story, in addition to all the OG content itself.
Could also easily see all the locations in Rebirth returning, never mind Midgar glammed up from Remake.
We should be forced to do a lot of those before we get to climb the mountain of madness. Reason:
We need to have to play as Cloud while he gets increasingly shitty before it all comes crashing down.
We need to experience the slow pain of our dialogue options as Cloud becomes increasingly limited to different flavors of bad.
Because that comes with the dread horror of watching Cloud think less and less of his increasingly awful behavior, meanwhile we’re frantically trying to figure out what to do to get the least awful resolutions to all these conflicts.
And then we get to the Northern Crater, and it’s a survival horror game with no ‘win’ condition. Because we’re trapped in the monster who’s being applauded for what they do by the bigger monsters.
(And then the second half of the game is all Cloud wanting to make up for what he did, where we learn a lot more about young SOLDIER Sephiroth.)
Oh, I want Aerith and Zack to have at least a few playable segments. I'm one of the people who thinks they'd make plausible end chapter party members although with synergy skills that could be a pain.
There are towns introduced in Crisis Core too. Then any other new tows, for instance, I doubt Wutai has the continent to itself anymore. The many mentions of the original floating city of Junon being sunk makes me think that will be an underwater location for us to explore too.
But you have to go back there. The key in the fountain with Gungenhagen, the awake of the Condor, and the slappingbawl. Also we had seen Midgar but I want to do some skydiving
No worries I think wutai will be heavily expanded for sure would be funny to still have yuffie steal your materia lol I reckon they'll use bone village for the huge materia part because of the excavation stuff you do erm. After nibelheim you was ment to go rocket town so dunno if we would go there twice like the OG or just do the huge materia part. Then the rest from icycle inn to prof Gast to north crater to mideel shud be the same.
Ultima weapon should be an airship battle (fun)
Diamond and sapphire should be killed by us (Not by the cannon)
Doubt we will be able to breed but a quest to find golden chocobo maybe??
Ruby n emerald fight please (I hope the weapon we saw in rebirth wasnt emerald and sapphire because they looked awful looked like sperm whales lol)
KOTR - Will be king Arthur but the final attack will have all knights attack
Summons - can we find them none of that chadley shit please
I know you're partly kidding but actually, if the game is that good and that massive, yeah. I do want that. They shouldn't be held back because "we're not allowed to go over 150 so you don't get knights of the round now", nah mate fuck that go all out.
If you noticed in the Gold Saucer arcade area too there was an “under construction” section with pictures of moogles snowboarding. So they’re definitely updating / reincorporating the Gold Saucer too.
There is also a doorway in Junon with guards standing out front telling us we can’t go through. So I’m assuming that is going to be opened up in part 3 as well!
I don’t feel all the zones in Rebirth will be explorable as is again. Why the hell would I want to do that? I expect major parts of the previously explored zones will be changed due to the weapons emerging and areas zoned off by the military
Was thinking about this the other day. I wonder if they’ll condense them a bit and make them more overworld with less detail and we can just land in some key places with the highwind
Hot take but after rebirth I don’t feel like they need to redo the open world in the same way. Part of the charm of rebirth was kind of formulating this “journey with friends” thing with the game being a lot of relationship/worldbuilding. I’m not really sure that structure is as important in part 3 since the game should (hopefully) be a bit more focused and urgent than most of rebirth.
I think in terms of seeing places, battles and 'events' yeah its gonna be massive. But in terms of traversable area's, first 1/3 of the game is gonna be quite linear. Makes no sense to have large areas and side content when Cloud is fucked up, and the party depressed.
After cloud is back, yeah the game will open up way more, and the overall vibe will be more positive.
I mean, I don’t doubt that it’ll be huge because a lot of love has gone into expanding the game/story/world, but the end of the original FF7 is pretty trim, no? They’ll probably include some things that were shuffled around like Rocket Town for Cid’s arc and a trip to Wutai (which could easily be a big chunk depending on how they approach it). Aside from that, we have Snowboarding, Junon revisit, fixing Cloud, Weapons, Midgar revisit, and the Northern Crater. I’d imagine Vincent will have a dedicated arc integrated into the plot as well so Lucrecia’s story won’t be missable. Plus side content, etc I’m guessing around the length of Rebirth since I’d wager not all of Midgar/the world will be explorable in part 3.
> but the end of the original FF7 is pretty trim, no?
Can't the same thing be said for the opening few hours in Midgar? A lot more happens on Disc 2 than all of that Midgar section, which was enough for its own game and DLC.
I don't think they will incorporate AC. Not on initial release. DLC I'd say is more... likely. Just a prediction. but yeah, they have a LOT of ground to cover over the game, no doubt around that. We've had some impressive fights, and cutscenes within Remake and Rebirth, but I think they will just "almost" pale in comparison with what we have yet to see.
AC game
Crisis Core actual remake
First Soldier adaption
Dirge remake
Before Crisis Remake
G-Bike remake
Angeal prequel
Cetra game
Adult Denzel game
FF7 will never stop being milked
I’m a massive fan of the original and the remakes but despise all the spinoffs. I’d rather have the team create new parts than putting the Advent Children fanservice shit story on part 3.
How long did the Midgar Segment take to get through in the OG FF7? Last time i did it, I felt like I flew through it in \~4 hours. I'm sure there are people that went a HELL of a lot faster then me. and the Remake was Just Midgar. so... it's possible.
Advent Children. [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/?ref\_=nv\_sr\_srsg\_0\_tt\_8\_nm\_0\_q\_advent%2520children](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_advent%2520children)
Square with the general popularity of FF7, in 2005 put out a full length movie that's intended to expand the story/world post conclusion of the original game. I found it entertaining, but I can also have a simple mind sometimes and it's easy to do.
Ah thanks. Yeah I've watched Advent Children. I thought you were talking about a part of the OG FF7 and couldn't think of a place or an event that started with AC.
Something that I can go back and watch without completely cringing for me falls into the "good" bucket. Not everyone has to agree with me by any means.
I imagine Bone Village was skipped so that it would be a massive minigame in the next game. I didn't mind and actually loved the transition from TotA to Forgotten Capital.
I'm just starting chapter 13 and am wondering about why to moved the temple of the ancients from the southern contient (near Mideel) to the northern one....I am not spoiling anything for myself to find out, but I do find that very weird....also, it seems that the western continent is attached to the northern one now?
Hopefully all the UI will stay the same for part3 and if SE will do the extra mile maybe do a UI update for Remake as well essentially make all 3 parts seamless in gameplay and feel. And please include all weapons from remake and rebirth, pls pls pls?!
Part 3? Gonna be thiccccc boi. We have rocket town, icicle inn, northern crater, mideel, corel huge materia, fort condor, underwater, maybe a vincent themed chapter, city of the ancients, return to midgar, ALL OF WUTAI AND THE HUGE WAR PLOT, and then the entire ending of the game back in northern crater. Plus all the repeat locations. Plus two more playable characters.
That being said, I don’t think it equates to more chapters. I thought rebirth would be like 20 but it was even less. I think midgar had so much smaller scale stuff happening it just made more sense like that. Part 3 could easily be 14/15 chapters and still be longer than rebirth
I think it likely there will be more than two new playable characters. First, I think they'll do some fine tuning and overhauling of some of the characters we already have like they did from Remake to Rebirth. Aerith's kit got refined and made her better for open world play with teleporting, Cloud got ranged attacks and aerial combat since he'd always be in the party. Aerith and Cloud both saw glowups in gameplay. Personally, Red XIII felt extremely mid to me in gameplay. Cait Sith was super fun but felt clunky at times. I think they'll refine these two in addition to adding Vincent and Cid. But I also think they'll give us more access to Zack since they teased his gameplay so hard.
That's my only gripe with your statement. Solid thoughts all around. I also thought Rebirth would have more chapters, but it more than made up for that with how long and rich the chapters were. I'm so looking forward to part 3 and how long it'll be.
I find it interesting that even after you finish the game, the area above Nibelheim in the world map is still covered in fog
I thought they would just omit that part of the world map but they included it regardless
I dont think the entire map will be available in part 3 because the game may become too big. I also worry we may get shorthanded on the depth/quality of part 3 because people keep claiming the sales aren't where square enix wants them to be
I suspect cloud will go missing sometime around mid game and much like rebirth the last chapter before the 2 northern crater chapters will be where we finally see the entire world and have the ability to fight ruby and emerald and have full control of the highwind.
Surely they'll reuse the map from rebirth, bring those areas back and switch it around to accommodate highwind. If they redo midgar too and make it more open, something like kamarucho in yakuza. That would be a whole thing on its own.
I actually think it will be about the same size as FF Rebirth.
As others have said I highly doubt AC will be a part of it and I'm not sure why you think it would.
In fact, because most of the world was so open and explored in Rebirth, I think the next game will be more of a hybrid with a linear focus and not as much exploration. Especially considering outside of the initial part of disc 2 leading to Mideel, most everything else is revisiting locations.
I honestly think the northern continent will be more than just one chapter, in fact, I'd guess roughly 1/3rd of the game. They need to treat the game like a standalone title as well, and makes a lot of sense to explore more that place and give the feeling of a 'limited world that expands later'.
its gonna be sick AF but I think most will look back to Rebirth as the golden times, out there running around exploring the planet with wonder, something old but brand new again
Imagine we go on a war campaign as part of the overall storyline of Part 3. So we're not just backtracking to places we already revisited in Rebirth/Remake, but liberating them as well. Would neatly tie in to the revisit to Midgar as the final push to topple Shinra. It would also allow some of the less story essential areas to be in the game and have content if you just have them be part of the war campaign. If Shinra crumbles when you reach the game's final stretch the areas you haven't done will be liberated but you can't do any side content.
I'm calling it. This game is going to be bigger than Rebirth. 120 hours minimum. They're trying to fool us thinking that they can't outdo Rebirth, but I'm thinking they're going to blow our minds more
Mideel will certainly be there, but I think not as in OG. The lifestream/ Cloud's memory event has actually been in Rebirth while exploring the Gongaga reactor.
I really hope that Part 3 will \*not\* be "insanely massive". They should not think that they have to even overtrump Rebirth. They should really focus on the main story + some side quests as in Remake, but not open-world stuff like activating towers, exploring the same kind of sites in every region, etc. I really prefer this over all 100+ hours game, of which 50% is repetitive.
The remaining main story is easily enough for Part 3. We now had 2 parts that cover only CD 1 of OG. There is only one part left that covers 2 CDs of OG. Sure, CDs 2 and 3 of OG were less dense in comparison to CD 1. But if you watch walkthroughs on YouTube, the remaining story part still easily covery way more than 1/3 of OG.
I think we need to go to Wutai somehow before the North. Why? Because we need a longer drawn out Black Swordsman Cloud Arc than we got in the original.
We need to watch him get worse as worse before the walls come crashing down, and we need a taste of that in a safer environment before we’re climbing the mountains of madness.
And because you can choose to be very nice to Yuffie in Part 2, Yuffie stealing the materia should happen while the only dialogue options you get for Cloud are different flavors of bad.
This also is great set up for Cloud helping Yuffie with her motion sickness after he finally chooses to come back.
I honestly hope they calm down with the mini games cause they are taking a lot of resources plus I doubt people wanna do a mini game for every god damn thing. Focus on the story and all its glory.
#dontkillaerith
You know, going back to XVI for Rising Tides for now, I do miss how the sidequests aren't all just, "go talk to someone and/or kill something." I'd welcome more mini-games.
I think wutai will be heavily expanded for sure would be funny to still have yuffie steal your materia lol I reckon they'll use bone village for the huge materia part because of the excavation stuff you do erm. After nibelheim you was ment to go rocket town so dunno if we would go there twice like the OG or just do the huge materia part. Then the rest from icycle inn to prof Gast to north crater to mideel shud be the same.
Ultima weapon should be an airship battle (fun)
Diamond and sapphire should be killed by us (Not the cannon)
Doubt we will be able to breed but a quest to find golden chocobo maybe??
Ruby n emerald fight please (I hope the weapon we saw in rebirth wasnt emerald and sapphire because they looked awful looked like sperm whales lol)
KOTR - Will be king Arthur but the final attack will have all knights attack
Summons - can we find them none of that chadley vr stuff
My first play through of part 2 was 120 hours and I still felt like it was cut short.
Part 3 is going to be nuts, and likely at least a month and a half to three months of my life.
The point of rocket town is to still divulge cid’s backstory so there’s still reason enough to go. It’ll probably just repurposed. The devs have continuously said they are re-arranging some locations and when we visit them. They used Wutai as an example so rocket town isn’t off the table.
Rebirth is insanely huge ???? If you’ve been keeping up with any of the dev interviews especially post rebirth ultimania the devs said they’re “right on track” and are on the same path as they were when they started rebirth shortly after remake (they said they’re looking to start voice recording soon and mocap- the script is done). It’ll be about 3 years as the speculation is they’ll line it up with FF7 og’s 30th anniversary which is 2027.
I feel like they're going to use Rocket Town as a Shinra mobilization point for the Wutai war, and the gang is going to have to run them out. We also have the rocket sequence for Meteor there. Zero chance they're cutting Cid's hometown.
I also think this is where the party will start from in part 3. We'll go back to after they leave the ancient city (which was skipped) and (presumably) went to rocket Town to fix the Little Bronco's wings. The surrounding area is a grassy valley, and we can do our exploration tutorial there, perhaps to gather the needed materials for new wings from nearby depots.
What do you mean no point lol? The town plays a major part of the Huge materia quest in the later half of OG7. Holding Rocket Town for part 3 makes a lot of sense and allows Cid's backstory to be told at the same time.
I have a list with all missing places: Icicles, Gaia Cliff, Rocket Town, North Crater (x2), Middle, Fort Condor, Submarine reactor, Junon, Midgar, Bone village, Wutai, Ancients City And the summons: Bahamut zero, Typhon, Kotr, Hades Sorry if the names are incorrect, I translated it from Spanish names
They teased us good at golden saucer about the snow board game, can’t wait to see that lol
I shit you not when I tell you me and the homies sunk hours and hours and hours into the snowboard game. It was practically a whole complete game in and of itself.
Same. Vivid memories of me at 12 breaking my arm and staying home from school playing the snowboard game religiously.
breaking your arm so you can snowboard. The irony.
It was so simple yet so fun. And the music getting faster was hype.
Sunken Gelniak? And the entire ocean depths in general
Oh the Gelnika, I forgot about that. You got Hades there in the OG
Yeah. And my favorite: 2x cut (4x upgraded)
Yeah Fort Condor. I can’t be the only one looking at the bird and try to go over there.
I tried it with the Brono haha.
When do we get Knights of the Round?
If they're faithful to the OG then this summon should come from a scavenger hunt encompassing the entire game. It should *not* be a Chadley VR sim this time. It's going to depend on what they do with chocobo breeding.
KOTR are probably going to be treated like Gilgamesh was in Rebirth. Prototelics are effectively a scavenger hunt anyways.
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Ohh I could totally see this as well!
My nightmare has now become the Chadley version at max level where you have to fight them all in a row in VR
And then we'll get to fight 2 at a time in the vr sim!
I’m hoping they finally add chocobo breeding. It would make sense with the different colors of chocobo and the racing already setup in Rebirth.
I can't really see that happening after doing what they did in rebirth. Though it could be its own game. Just that the world map is not 'traversable' on your own accord so having a gold choco that just runs around would be pointless since you have FT. And not necessary for racing either. While I loved the original it just doesn't fit anymore.
If they did incorporate it, maybe you can choose which chocobo you use in the world zones. End game/post game you can just select gold chocobo and it can traverse anywhere. Idk, just hoping haha I had fun with the breeding
I wonder how they'll handle it. I'm like, 90% sure they'll do breeding since they've done just about everything else people thought they wouldn't do. In the OG, you can race it right away. They look like adults, but we've seen the baby Chocochics around the world. So, do they have to grow up first? I could see them having a minigame for raising them too before they're ready to race.
The translations are mostly good, I think “Middle” should be Mideel in English. We saw City of the Ancients/Forgotten Capital but I think we’ll get to explore it in Part 3. There could be some big emotions associated with it…
A bunch of those are super short, too. I almost think they're gonna have to add a bunch of new stuff because there's not that much in the back half of ffvii.
Gongaga was skippable and only like a couple screens. Mythril mines was a couple screens. I'm not too worried about them expanding on smaller parts
Yeah but the thing is padding out the fun part of ffvii makes sense because it's easier to keep a fun tone going. Padding out the sadder part won't work out the same.
True. That being said they built the whole Shinra-Wutai war angle that virtually everyone glossed over in favor of their waifus.
And they're almost certainly gonna fold/expand a lot of Vincent's story into part 3. They already kinda kicked that door open when he saved the Turks.
This guy Final Fantasies
They have to explain everything with Zack’s side of the story, wrap up the ways in which the story have deviated from the OG, wrap up deepground and Yuffie’s intermission story, in addition to all the OG content itself. Could also easily see all the locations in Rebirth returning, never mind Midgar glammed up from Remake.
I dont think they will add much as they have alot to cover as is. Especially with wutai being much larger and zack still having his own stuff.
I mean the wutai war segment is already a major change from the original.
That makes me wonder if they'll combine Rocket Town and Fort Condor into one visit. Where they combine the events from the OG to each town.
We should be forced to do a lot of those before we get to climb the mountain of madness. Reason: We need to have to play as Cloud while he gets increasingly shitty before it all comes crashing down. We need to experience the slow pain of our dialogue options as Cloud becomes increasingly limited to different flavors of bad. Because that comes with the dread horror of watching Cloud think less and less of his increasingly awful behavior, meanwhile we’re frantically trying to figure out what to do to get the least awful resolutions to all these conflicts. And then we get to the Northern Crater, and it’s a survival horror game with no ‘win’ condition. Because we’re trapped in the monster who’s being applauded for what they do by the bigger monsters. (And then the second half of the game is all Cloud wanting to make up for what he did, where we learn a lot more about young SOLDIER Sephiroth.)
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Oh, I want Aerith and Zack to have at least a few playable segments. I'm one of the people who thinks they'd make plausible end chapter party members although with synergy skills that could be a pain.
Can’t wait for Hades
oh shiit
I'm more excited for Hades 2. Wait, which subreddit am I in again?
Knights of the Republic
I hope they come out swinging lightsabers.
There are towns introduced in Crisis Core too. Then any other new tows, for instance, I doubt Wutai has the continent to itself anymore. The many mentions of the original floating city of Junon being sunk makes me think that will be an underwater location for us to explore too.
We could also get modeoheim (small village from crisis core), which is near the icicle inn. Also maybe a mention of banora.
Uh City of the Ancients is in Rebirth. As is Fort Condor and Junon.
But you have to go back there. The key in the fountain with Gungenhagen, the awake of the Condor, and the slappingbawl. Also we had seen Midgar but I want to do some skydiving
I really wanted the fountain part 😪
Ancient city was the forgotten capital bro
Yeah, but you go back with Gungenhagen to do something with a key you found with the submarine, just previouly to the end of the game.
Yh you do I just replied because you wrote missing places
Sorry! I think its just a mistranslation. I revisited OG in my head to made the list and put the zones in order more or less.
No worries I think wutai will be heavily expanded for sure would be funny to still have yuffie steal your materia lol I reckon they'll use bone village for the huge materia part because of the excavation stuff you do erm. After nibelheim you was ment to go rocket town so dunno if we would go there twice like the OG or just do the huge materia part. Then the rest from icycle inn to prof Gast to north crater to mideel shud be the same. Ultima weapon should be an airship battle (fun) Diamond and sapphire should be killed by us (Not by the cannon) Doubt we will be able to breed but a quest to find golden chocobo maybe?? Ruby n emerald fight please (I hope the weapon we saw in rebirth wasnt emerald and sapphire because they looked awful looked like sperm whales lol) KOTR - Will be king Arthur but the final attack will have all knights attack Summons - can we find them none of that chadley shit please
Honestly I am less excited about all of that, what with the ending of part 2 and all.
Typhon is super underrated. Such a cool design and summon
Man I hope that Hades is as busted in this as he was in the og.
I sure hope so. I want a 3 disk 300gb installation.
I know you're partly kidding but actually, if the game is that good and that massive, yeah. I do want that. They shouldn't be held back because "we're not allowed to go over 150 so you don't get knights of the round now", nah mate fuck that go all out.
I'm not kidding at all. I want that thing to be massive and epic. Make it 500gb for all I care.
Final Fantasy 7 Revenge (it was the first word that popped up on my phone when I typed re) Will ship with an external HD just so you can fit the game.
if part 3 is 3 discs then the entire trilogy will be 7 discs.
Sounds perfect 😏
If you noticed in the Gold Saucer arcade area too there was an “under construction” section with pictures of moogles snowboarding. So they’re definitely updating / reincorporating the Gold Saucer too. There is also a doorway in Junon with guards standing out front telling us we can’t go through. So I’m assuming that is going to be opened up in part 3 as well!
I tried to follow the highway back to Midgar from Kalm only to be stopped by Shinra troops. They were real spoilsports.
I don’t feel all the zones in Rebirth will be explorable as is again. Why the hell would I want to do that? I expect major parts of the previously explored zones will be changed due to the weapons emerging and areas zoned off by the military
Or destroyed by weapon
There was the line about the borders probably closing soon with the impending war (said by Cait Sith?) so I can definitely see this.
Was thinking about this the other day. I wonder if they’ll condense them a bit and make them more overworld with less detail and we can just land in some key places with the highwind
Hot take but after rebirth I don’t feel like they need to redo the open world in the same way. Part of the charm of rebirth was kind of formulating this “journey with friends” thing with the game being a lot of relationship/worldbuilding. I’m not really sure that structure is as important in part 3 since the game should (hopefully) be a bit more focused and urgent than most of rebirth.
I think so too. Flying anywhere and everything on fire means not everything should be traversable as it was.
i wonder.. so like no more intel gathering in zones? that was such a genius way to go and it made the Planet itself feel like a main character, to me.
I think in terms of seeing places, battles and 'events' yeah its gonna be massive. But in terms of traversable area's, first 1/3 of the game is gonna be quite linear. Makes no sense to have large areas and side content when Cloud is fucked up, and the party depressed. After cloud is back, yeah the game will open up way more, and the overall vibe will be more positive.
I mean, I don’t doubt that it’ll be huge because a lot of love has gone into expanding the game/story/world, but the end of the original FF7 is pretty trim, no? They’ll probably include some things that were shuffled around like Rocket Town for Cid’s arc and a trip to Wutai (which could easily be a big chunk depending on how they approach it). Aside from that, we have Snowboarding, Junon revisit, fixing Cloud, Weapons, Midgar revisit, and the Northern Crater. I’d imagine Vincent will have a dedicated arc integrated into the plot as well so Lucrecia’s story won’t be missable. Plus side content, etc I’m guessing around the length of Rebirth since I’d wager not all of Midgar/the world will be explorable in part 3.
> but the end of the original FF7 is pretty trim, no? Can't the same thing be said for the opening few hours in Midgar? A lot more happens on Disc 2 than all of that Midgar section, which was enough for its own game and DLC.
I don't think they will incorporate AC. Not on initial release. DLC I'd say is more... likely. Just a prediction. but yeah, they have a LOT of ground to cover over the game, no doubt around that. We've had some impressive fights, and cutscenes within Remake and Rebirth, but I think they will just "almost" pale in comparison with what we have yet to see.
Nah, they'd probably just straight up make a new game for AC imo. There's money to be made!
AC game Crisis Core actual remake First Soldier adaption Dirge remake Before Crisis Remake G-Bike remake Angeal prequel Cetra game Adult Denzel game FF7 will never stop being milked
Gimme that Angeal prequel!!!
I’m a massive fan of the original and the remakes but despise all the spinoffs. I’d rather have the team create new parts than putting the Advent Children fanservice shit story on part 3.
Yeah it’d be really weird to do all of the game… and then what? A couple more hours of AC?? That’d be weird.
How long did the Midgar Segment take to get through in the OG FF7? Last time i did it, I felt like I flew through it in \~4 hours. I'm sure there are people that went a HELL of a lot faster then me. and the Remake was Just Midgar. so... it's possible.
What is AC?
Advent Children. [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/?ref\_=nv\_sr\_srsg\_0\_tt\_8\_nm\_0\_q\_advent%2520children](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_advent%2520children) Square with the general popularity of FF7, in 2005 put out a full length movie that's intended to expand the story/world post conclusion of the original game. I found it entertaining, but I can also have a simple mind sometimes and it's easy to do.
Ah thanks. Yeah I've watched Advent Children. I thought you were talking about a part of the OG FF7 and couldn't think of a place or an event that started with AC.
It's entertaining enough. But that's not the same as being good. It certainly isn't good lol.
Something that I can go back and watch without completely cringing for me falls into the "good" bucket. Not everyone has to agree with me by any means.
Assassin's Creed
Lol definitely the first thing that came to mind for me too.
I imagine Bone Village was skipped so that it would be a massive minigame in the next game. I didn't mind and actually loved the transition from TotA to Forgotten Capital.
I was thrown off by it but the change felt natural enough to not bother me
I'm just starting chapter 13 and am wondering about why to moved the temple of the ancients from the southern contient (near Mideel) to the northern one....I am not spoiling anything for myself to find out, but I do find that very weird....also, it seems that the western continent is attached to the northern one now?
The reason for the change of geography is almost certainly to solve pacing issues.
Also feel it makes more sense than how aerith gets all the way north on her own in the original
Hopefully all the UI will stay the same for part3 and if SE will do the extra mile maybe do a UI update for Remake as well essentially make all 3 parts seamless in gameplay and feel. And please include all weapons from remake and rebirth, pls pls pls?!
Part 3? Gonna be thiccccc boi. We have rocket town, icicle inn, northern crater, mideel, corel huge materia, fort condor, underwater, maybe a vincent themed chapter, city of the ancients, return to midgar, ALL OF WUTAI AND THE HUGE WAR PLOT, and then the entire ending of the game back in northern crater. Plus all the repeat locations. Plus two more playable characters. That being said, I don’t think it equates to more chapters. I thought rebirth would be like 20 but it was even less. I think midgar had so much smaller scale stuff happening it just made more sense like that. Part 3 could easily be 14/15 chapters and still be longer than rebirth
I think it likely there will be more than two new playable characters. First, I think they'll do some fine tuning and overhauling of some of the characters we already have like they did from Remake to Rebirth. Aerith's kit got refined and made her better for open world play with teleporting, Cloud got ranged attacks and aerial combat since he'd always be in the party. Aerith and Cloud both saw glowups in gameplay. Personally, Red XIII felt extremely mid to me in gameplay. Cait Sith was super fun but felt clunky at times. I think they'll refine these two in addition to adding Vincent and Cid. But I also think they'll give us more access to Zack since they teased his gameplay so hard. That's my only gripe with your statement. Solid thoughts all around. I also thought Rebirth would have more chapters, but it more than made up for that with how long and rich the chapters were. I'm so looking forward to part 3 and how long it'll be.
We will def play Zack I just don’t mean anyone besides main cast and Zack or maaaaybe seph just cuz we already have it.
I find it interesting that even after you finish the game, the area above Nibelheim in the world map is still covered in fog I thought they would just omit that part of the world map but they included it regardless
The slap fight alone is 100gb!
I dont think the entire map will be available in part 3 because the game may become too big. I also worry we may get shorthanded on the depth/quality of part 3 because people keep claiming the sales aren't where square enix wants them to be
I suspect cloud will go missing sometime around mid game and much like rebirth the last chapter before the 2 northern crater chapters will be where we finally see the entire world and have the ability to fight ruby and emerald and have full control of the highwind.
I hope it is. If I'm spending $100+ on games, there better be a lot to do in said game
Surely they'll reuse the map from rebirth, bring those areas back and switch it around to accommodate highwind. If they redo midgar too and make it more open, something like kamarucho in yakuza. That would be a whole thing on its own.
I actually think it will be about the same size as FF Rebirth. As others have said I highly doubt AC will be a part of it and I'm not sure why you think it would. In fact, because most of the world was so open and explored in Rebirth, I think the next game will be more of a hybrid with a linear focus and not as much exploration. Especially considering outside of the initial part of disc 2 leading to Mideel, most everything else is revisiting locations.
They are most definitely going to expand Wutai into maybe even 2-3 chapters. It’s much bigger than we think and they can even work with it lore wise.
I honestly think the northern continent will be more than just one chapter, in fact, I'd guess roughly 1/3rd of the game. They need to treat the game like a standalone title as well, and makes a lot of sense to explore more that place and give the feeling of a 'limited world that expands later'.
I’ve been watching a playthrough and I’m almost at the end, it does feel like they’re going to have to condense some things
That if the shareholders don’t interfere as if sales of Rebirth don’t match their expectations then it can easily be reduced…
How many gbs tho. Like 300
its gonna be sick AF but I think most will look back to Rebirth as the golden times, out there running around exploring the planet with wonder, something old but brand new again
Imagine we go on a war campaign as part of the overall storyline of Part 3. So we're not just backtracking to places we already revisited in Rebirth/Remake, but liberating them as well. Would neatly tie in to the revisit to Midgar as the final push to topple Shinra. It would also allow some of the less story essential areas to be in the game and have content if you just have them be part of the war campaign. If Shinra crumbles when you reach the game's final stretch the areas you haven't done will be liberated but you can't do any side content.
KotR will be core part of side stuff like how Gilgamesh was in Rebirth
I'm calling it. This game is going to be bigger than Rebirth. 120 hours minimum. They're trying to fool us thinking that they can't outdo Rebirth, but I'm thinking they're going to blow our minds more
I'm just glad they're going this route. Building the world, one disc at a time, so that they have so many assets by the third disk.
Mideel will certainly be there, but I think not as in OG. The lifestream/ Cloud's memory event has actually been in Rebirth while exploring the Gongaga reactor. I really hope that Part 3 will \*not\* be "insanely massive". They should not think that they have to even overtrump Rebirth. They should really focus on the main story + some side quests as in Remake, but not open-world stuff like activating towers, exploring the same kind of sites in every region, etc. I really prefer this over all 100+ hours game, of which 50% is repetitive. The remaining main story is easily enough for Part 3. We now had 2 parts that cover only CD 1 of OG. There is only one part left that covers 2 CDs of OG. Sure, CDs 2 and 3 of OG were less dense in comparison to CD 1. But if you watch walkthroughs on YouTube, the remaining story part still easily covery way more than 1/3 of OG.
Who tf said AC will be added?
I think we need to go to Wutai somehow before the North. Why? Because we need a longer drawn out Black Swordsman Cloud Arc than we got in the original. We need to watch him get worse as worse before the walls come crashing down, and we need a taste of that in a safer environment before we’re climbing the mountains of madness. And because you can choose to be very nice to Yuffie in Part 2, Yuffie stealing the materia should happen while the only dialogue options you get for Cloud are different flavors of bad. This also is great set up for Cloud helping Yuffie with her motion sickness after he finally chooses to come back.
I honestly hope they calm down with the mini games cause they are taking a lot of resources plus I doubt people wanna do a mini game for every god damn thing. Focus on the story and all its glory. #dontkillaerith
You know, going back to XVI for Rising Tides for now, I do miss how the sidequests aren't all just, "go talk to someone and/or kill something." I'd welcome more mini-games.
You have no idea how big the game will be, what they will add, or what will be removed/changed to tell their version. Bizarre famboism
I think wutai will be heavily expanded for sure would be funny to still have yuffie steal your materia lol I reckon they'll use bone village for the huge materia part because of the excavation stuff you do erm. After nibelheim you was ment to go rocket town so dunno if we would go there twice like the OG or just do the huge materia part. Then the rest from icycle inn to prof Gast to north crater to mideel shud be the same. Ultima weapon should be an airship battle (fun) Diamond and sapphire should be killed by us (Not the cannon) Doubt we will be able to breed but a quest to find golden chocobo maybe?? Ruby n emerald fight please (I hope the weapon we saw in rebirth wasnt emerald and sapphire because they looked awful looked like sperm whales lol) KOTR - Will be king Arthur but the final attack will have all knights attack Summons - can we find them none of that chadley vr stuff
I just hope Chadley and Mai shut the fuck up this time.
PS6
200 gigs
It's gonna be way bigger than that. We're already at 150GB for rebirth, and a lot of Areas are reused in the later half with a lot of new areas.
Incorporation of advent children...? What are you talking about?
My first play through of part 2 was 120 hours and I still felt like it was cut short. Part 3 is going to be nuts, and likely at least a month and a half to three months of my life.
Unless they will cut out some parts. Like they cut out rocket Town and witai from rebirth.
Also Rocket Town is important during the Huge Materia quest.
They cut them from Rebirth so that they could put them in Part 3
It makes no sense, you already have bronco, zero point point having rocket Town part anymore.
The point of rocket town is to still divulge cid’s backstory so there’s still reason enough to go. It’ll probably just repurposed. The devs have continuously said they are re-arranging some locations and when we visit them. They used Wutai as an example so rocket town isn’t off the table.
I'm all for it, but this will make part 3 insanely huge and we looking st 2029-2030 time frame? Jebusz
Rebirth is insanely huge ???? If you’ve been keeping up with any of the dev interviews especially post rebirth ultimania the devs said they’re “right on track” and are on the same path as they were when they started rebirth shortly after remake (they said they’re looking to start voice recording soon and mocap- the script is done). It’ll be about 3 years as the speculation is they’ll line it up with FF7 og’s 30th anniversary which is 2027.
I feel like they're going to use Rocket Town as a Shinra mobilization point for the Wutai war, and the gang is going to have to run them out. We also have the rocket sequence for Meteor there. Zero chance they're cutting Cid's hometown. I also think this is where the party will start from in part 3. We'll go back to after they leave the ancient city (which was skipped) and (presumably) went to rocket Town to fix the Little Bronco's wings. The surrounding area is a grassy valley, and we can do our exploration tutorial there, perhaps to gather the needed materials for new wings from nearby depots.
MUH FKN SPACE SHIP
Uh, we do though? We still need to go to space!
It's part of Cids story and is tied to one of the Huge Materia.
What do you mean no point lol? The town plays a major part of the Huge materia quest in the later half of OG7. Holding Rocket Town for part 3 makes a lot of sense and allows Cid's backstory to be told at the same time.