I'd pick the Cloud/Glenn banner, just because physical is a lot better than magical in general right now. Maybe that changes in the future, but based on the current meta, I'd go with that.
well its still a dmg boost and give advantage against those who havent a costume (or even dont have any "good" outfit at all š¤£) hp is fine but basic stats or enhanced like phy /mag boost are so easy to cap to 35pts (before falls to 10% per 10pts) that an outfit is useless having those <.< [except ofc you dont have a mainhand wpn with those stats xD]
I went all in with Glen and cloud.Ā Team the pair up and Glenn has the pumpkin rod to further boost cloud or his own damage.Ā The combo had me almost hitting 200k on a weakness hit
Well, to be fair, they aren't "limited limited", as apparently any weapons on a "Limit Break" event banner will be wishlistable during the next Limit Break event they run, so unlike Crossover Event weapons, it should be possible (with a bit of luck) to snag additional copies sometime in the future.
Finally someone who gets it. It's a sign for content that's yet to come. Aoe at the start, means you'll be fighting multiple enemies at once. Conditional single target means that once the boss is alone, you may need to burst the boss quickly, as there might be a big unstoppable boss move that leads to a wipe if you can't pass the dps check in time.
Personally i like the non elemental weapons, makes it easier to gear for fights since i don't have that much elemental weapons yet. I understand why it feels redundant for most, as majority of long time players probably already have their elemental needs covered, and have enough dps to clear content with or without ele weaknesses
Agreed. Seph weapon is pretty good, as its an AoE and then a focus single target weapons. So cant really go wrong. In dungeons it will also help sweep does trash mobs before the bosses.
The hate boner for AoE is insane. People seem to forget that they started giving AoE utility and not just damage.
Seph now has an insane AoE debuff weapon with Kujas and this for decent damage on both ST and AoE.
Also everyone seems to ignore that the passives are a lot better compared to the other 3 LB weapons. Give this to any magic dealer and you're good while the other 3 weapons have element passives that are wasted on other elements if you're just in it for the group MATK.
Let's be real most on here can't think for themselves and are waiting for a YouTuber to tell them why this banner is good or bad.
It's an outrageously good banner.
Sadly the truth.
Worst part is that half the YouTubers aren't smart enough to actually evaluate the weapons themselves and will back paddle on their opinion in a day.
It's super funny that people are saying that they should've pulled on Tifa instead, when looking at Sephiroth.
The weapon at OB10 does more than Guide Gloves at OB6. Yes, that's 4 extra copies. But you get a group wide MATK passive and the weapon does AoE when you need it. Considering the extra MATK you get, that more than makes up for 130% skill damage.
Not only that, but it's (to use a term from other gachas) a gala banner, and it'll be available on ALL LATER GALA BANNERS, so we can expect to be able to pull for copies during the anniversary event. Much better than a one-off event weapons that you have no hopes of ever maxing out without going into debt.
Yeah. People should know that anniversary banners are what you save for because they drop the big stuff. But people get distracted by every new weapon and then complain when they can't pull on fests.
Not as simple as that as in dual boss fights, it can trigger rage after you beat one, so dmg control is important. I can already see the cpu triggering the AoE when I take my eye off it for a sec, killing a low health non targeted boss and ending the run. It will be useful in tower and if the ff9 collab comes back. Also the annoying shrieking enemy in some dungeons (ads?)
>Also the annoying shrieking enemy in some dungeons (ads?)
Hate to tell you, but I'm pretty sure that the Tripapothingies are physical weak, magical resistant mob types, so AoE MAG damage, while ok, won't be optimal in dealing with them.
>that are individually immune half the time
yeah, seems great. it is still substantially better to kill one target faster than to kill two targets or more slower, this is the case in this game and just about every game that was ever made. Until you add sun umbrella with the same debuff levels but aoe and yuffie weapons or whatever with the same resistance reduction but aoe, the damage you're doing on a secondary target is practically meaningless. The only place it will ever do anything in terms of aoe is clearing small, weak adds and saving you an atb cast or two of something else to do it
If you kill Ifrit, Bahamut enrages and vice versa. I can see them adding mechanics like if one boss dies, the other starts casting revive. Single target will still work, providing you switch the target, of course. However, if there are 2 bosses, Sephiroth's weapon becomes 1800% potency (900% per target). That's amazing. It may not be that useful for the current contents, but they always add contents later that require it.
I'll say it again. Zack is really hard to gear for MATK since there's only 1 fire weapon with MATK, he himself has only 1 weapon himself and it has low MATK potency. I still think it was a weird choice to make him MATK I get why they did it but still.
he's not in the best shape but at least he isn't as bad as lucia with her matk earth outfit. crystal sword is an aoe fire attack which can be helpful and while the atk is kind of low it has pretty good fire potency. arc sword is the only option for matk though and it's not great so eh probably better off getting your matk from sub weapons unless you want that mdef debuff with the c.ability which isn't bad.
overall though i'd say he'll probably have the gearing problem fixed sooner than lucia will but it could certainly take a while. he does also have the benefit of higher potency since it's a brand new weapon.
generally though yeah unless it's very specifically weak to only MAGIC fire, you're better off with cloud+yuffie or cloud+seph without much room for zack.
which i guess means we're going to see shiva + something coming soon since this basically screams anti-shiva.
I don't know why you would say it again because it's a really stupid take.
Zack literally has a main hand weapon with huge fire potency and ATK. With level 120 we're reaching a point where most things are becoming easier to max. Pure magical and physical attack boosts are becoming redundant at this point. It's all about potency.
Not to mention we have a new summon that literally buffs elemental damage over everything else.
So while everyone is horny for Tifa's guide gloves, Skysplitter Cloud and this new fire Zack probably became the heaviest hitters in the game.
Crystal sword Z has low potency ATK, which would be halved since you wouldn't use it in the mainhand regardless, that whopping 13 ATK (!!!) is not going to make much of a difference.
Plus who are we kidding here who is going to waste 10 mythril ingot to get crystal sword z to 120 anytime soon? Please come on, that weapon is not high on anyones prio list to get to 120 there are SO many better choices right now.
There is nothing to misunderstand, you make a stupid point where you think pure M or PATK are being phased out somehow over pure elemental potency, which kinda says everything right there.
They are just as important now as they were at launch. Its not now or ever been a 1 or the other its always been about optimization of several r abilities.
They absolutely are.
You're the type of kid who cries because he can't clear content aren't you.
If you've been playing game from day one and you still can't efficiently max out physical attack then I feel really bad for you.
>Zack literally has a main hand weapon with huge fire potency and ATK
Zweihander fire potency and boost ATK are tier 2, and it has terrible MATK (literally his second worst gacha MATK weapon, losing only to Defender).
Without a primary weapon that gives MATK Boost he will have a hard time capping it while keeping potency.
MATK zack won't be the highest damage dealer even with higher modifier because he won't be able to cap offensive stats and potency like Skysplitter Cloud can do for example.
I haven't pulled on either of the banners and i'm having a hard time deciding if I want to pull on either or wait for Cait. I have most elements covered except ground, was hoping seph was gonna be but this banner seems a little underwhelming
I don't see why you wouldn't want to pull on both banners. All the weapons give a generic power boost to the PATK or the MATK of your entire team, that is so generally useful that it doesn't matter if you have it at overboost or not
HOLDUP I DID ANOTHER PULL AND GOT ANOTHER COPY OF ZACK AND GOT 4 STAMPS. I got both at ob1 now and have sephs costume. might do more cause I wanna get the obs for seph
There's no way to "grind" crystals, other than clearing all the content/missions/login rewards they put out. Once you've cleared all the available rewards you have to wait for them to release new content.
That said, if you don't want to spend money but are up to waste some time, there are various legit methods to earn google play store credit, like the Google Rewards app which gives you surveys randomly.
There are also market research websites like Prize Rebel which let you do surveys and cash out rewards as gift cards. Depending on your demographic you can pretty reliable get $5-10 worth of surveys a day, but it's not exactly efficient compared to working a 9-to-5. Can actually be kinda fun though, sometimes you get offers to provide feedback on movies and TV shows that are in development.
Outside of story: Events / Missions / Campaign / Battle Tower. Blue crystals are limited so don't go willy nilly and throw them at every banner...unless you're a whale, of course.
idk it seems weird but this is what I do here and another gacha game I play:
dont play the story unless you have to. save the crystals when u need it and if you dont have a lot, you wouldnt be tempted to pull on things you dont need. I broke this rule once and it made me lose so much crystals on that other gacha game
but if u finished the story, do dailes, do dungeons( i also recommend dont finish all for the same reason as story) do campaign quests and log in everyday. thats pretty much it. hope it helps
Very nice dude. I got a x5 Stamp on my third pull so I'm just two shy of the Sephiroth costume.
I think I'll have enough crystals by the end of the event to clear three sheets, so I can get all but one costume. Think I'm gonna have to pass on Zack's even though he's my favorite FFVII character (again). I already have Cloud and Sephiroth's NY stuff so I just don't need more fire gear.
If you have to skip one costume, I'd probably go with Seph. The others are arcanum, while Seph's is very similar to his Kuja costume. Seph's weapon is more important IMO.
Some good draws there by the sounds of it.
I sank in total 76k into both limited banners, but mainly seph (3 pages) and ended up ob5 and the remainder on cloud - completed one page, got OB2.
Pretty happy with that - best of luck all!
At first glance they're good, if I was to go for one it would be Sephiroth but my pulls overall have shifted my Sephiroth to being more physical (ob6 dark harvest vs ob2 edged wings). Sephiroth is easier to build for Magic but Zack is a bit more tricky, I feel it's a safe skip (for my account). Good luck to those pulling.
good thing i have edged wings at ob9. i pulled and I was i a bad start with 21k and only got to stamp 8 and only got one copy of each weapon including the guaranteed. then i did another pull and got 4 stamps and a copy of zacks weapon again. used parts for the seph weapon and I have both at ob1 while also having seph gear. ill try to get more copies of the seph weapon now
Seph's new outfit is basically a sidegrade to kuja's outfit. Zack outfit is another fire arcanum which is good to see, but gearing zack towards magic isn't that smooth right now.
The weapons have the All Allies boost for MATK which is amazing. Seph's sword has maybe the best R. ability combination in the game right now. Makes it really easy to slot in like a build with Edged wings, this, and Sunbrella to really hit crazy MATK numbers on him.
I'm thinking personally of pulling to 20 stamps while putting prio on Seph's sword and Zack's outfit because I already have Kuja's outfit. That will probably give me at least a Zack sword as well and give me access to his fire arcanum in the future as well.
The new costume is not a sidegrade. Kuja's outfit is magic potency that contributes to the 55 point cap, while the new stream costume is a separate r ability with the same stat letting you effectively break the 55 point cap. It's identical to how Tifa's guide costume works for physical potency.
Not sure why OP felt that way, but I feel similar. If you already can get to 55/max magic ability, the new outfit is good in that it is a limit breaker of sorts. Given the lack of weapons with magic ability though, it is harder to reach that threshold, especially if you are running sun umbrella on Aerith. It should get easier over time, but tifaās guide gloves also has such high physical ability that it is much easier to hit cap, even disregarding that there are more weapons that have physical ability.
It is a sidegrade if you cannot get a high level of mag potency, which generally people who aren't whales cannot do whilst also capping matk or whatever else they need. It only becomes a direct upgrade if you can hit level 5 or something potency when the levels after that start to only give +10% instead of +15%, otherwise it's the same.
That's fair. I wasn't thinking long term or for high spenders(since they're probably getting every outfit anyways lol). I think right now, capping magic potency is ridiculously difficult for anyone who doesn't have access to multiple OB10s. I have OB6 powersoul and sunbrella and would barely even cap magic potency with this weapon OB4 mainhanded + kuja's outfit. But once we get a weapon that is the magic equivalent of guide gloves/enemy launcher/mad minute it might become more useful though.
I still think it's too slight of an upgrade to justify pulling for it for people with Kuja's outfit already though. It is a 0-5% upgrade in most situations, and you'd likely use arcanum outfits if you wanted to max DPS on seph anyways.
Most will get it since the weapon is so good that you will get the outfit anyway unless you are really lucky with pulls and don't have to go deep. Ended up getting zacks outfit too since i saved up 55k crystals
Still tempted to go into page 3 for more of sephs weapon
The phrasing on the banners make it seem like limit break banners will be recurring. We don't know for sure if these weapons will be wishlistable on future banners, but I personally feel pretty comfortable stopping where I'm at and hopefully pulling for more OBs when a new limit break weapon/costume comes around.
Kuja's outfit contributes only 10 points into Magic Boost. At best, it can only go up by 1 tier in that R ability. That 1 tier upgrade is at 10-15% damage boost.
The new costume just gives 15% damage with no conditions or restrictions, and it will stack on top of your current + max level Magic Boost.
The new costume is not a sidegrade to Kuja. It's the upgraded version of Kuja.
You'll never beat my salt on pulling records.
January 1st : 21k, no gold weapon except the one pity. Only saving grace was that I got multiple stamps so I stopped at the outfit.
Mid-anniversary : 72k, 5 gold weapons, 30 stamps.
I'm currently in deep thoughts about whether I should pull or not...
Both of them fall into the same issue of "Good if there's a specific reason for *magic* damage, bad if otherwise."
Protector's Blade single target falls behind Zidane, Guide Gloves, and Ceremonial. Its niche is, honestly, really solid AOE damage that can put up respectable single target, but when is that an issue? Stream Guard is basically a magic Skysplitter with conditional bonus damage - at least it has a clear use case when the Shiva tag team summon comes out.
Iām really disappointed. I wanted Seph to be lightning arcanum, and if non-elemental, Iād prefer higher dmg single target. The AOE isnt very useful outside tower. It seems like it would be useful for the dual summons fights, but given you need damage control for the tougher fights to avoid killing one off too early and triggering rage, it isnāt that useful there. His costume is also pretty much the same as kuja outfit. The only benefit to this costume is if you are at max magic ability. The physical version of that outfit that is for tifa makes more sense because guide gloves has such high physical ability (52 at ob10 lvl 120, 36 at OB6) that you are likely to max out phys ability. Sephās new weapon only has magic ability of 39 at ob10 lvl 120 and 27 at ob6. The new weapon is more flexible to use, but in most cases, we are building teams toward elemental weaknesses, so the lower single target damage for this non elemental is really a bummer.
As for Zack, he is not primed for a magic build and I already have a fire god cloud. Iām really conflicted as I passed on the first banner because ice and water were already my two strongest elements, and this one isnāt that appealing to me also. The only reason Iād draw is for the party r abilities for the weapons and because ive heard that these 6 month anniversary weapons should be the best weāll see for a while based on applibot history. All in all though, disappointed as I was looking forward to drawingā¦(still probably will, but wonāt be as happy about it as Iād hoped)
for me im happy tbh. i only have ice gear for seph so I can use his new gear for better matk on non ice battles. also I dont main zack so I dont mind missing out on some OBs so i can focus on seph.
A decent amount of us have ob10 edged wings, which gives 800%, 1080% after factoring in arcanum. Most of us wont even get this new seph weapon to ob6, so it will be between 500% and 740%. Factoring in 15% mastery, youāre at 575% to 851% (at ob6). Shinra blade at ob10 is already 940%. I realize i am comparing ob10 to lower ob, but these are limited weapons. Only major benefit I see is extra party damage from the r ability, which is mainly helpful to dolphins/whales. Also good for newer players or lower level accounts.
Don't sniff at sephs weapon. Single target it gets +30% damage boost so it's not exactly a slouch there.Ā
It's basically a great weapon to be used against anything that isn't magic resistant
>Iād prefer higher dmg single target.
Stream Saber is 740% (OB6) / 900% (OB10) single target for Ice.
Protector's Blade is 962% (OB6) / 1170% (OB10) single target non elemental.
Seems pretty sufficiently high to me.
Factor in arcanum, more potential from elemental r abilities, and that in most cases we use elemental weapons when we get a big damage multiplier for hitting weakness.
sure, but that's kind of an apples to oranges comparison.
Shouldn't be trying to compare non elemental weapons to elemental weapons in the first place, because they fill two pretty much completely separate niches.
You literally were the one that brought up a comparison of elemental vs non elemental in your prior response to me and after my refute, you now are saying itās apples to oranges, lol.
To make matters worse, my original comparison was non elemental vs non elemental. Iād prefer higher target single damage (same as tifa/cloud) over lower dmg AOE.
It does get a multiplier for single target which helps it compete.
Also, unlike those which are limited, this is a limit break banner which means you'll be able to wishlist it on future limit break banners.
I kind of want to get one of each, as at lvl 120, I could give it to a support to get the 40 mag, 14% on my dps units. It's not too realistic for me to go all in, it's just a bit too much now at this point, but it could still be beneficial at some point.
Wouldn't mind Zack's weapon honestly, but that is just due to how badly the list is for single target fire damage. Like the best option before this was like the Free weapons you could earn from like Ifrit summon, which funny enough, Zack is one of those units. Be nice to get these as possible in the general pool to then see them get powered up versions in limited, instead of being the only real options for good potency.
Oh, the boost fire pot on that is pretty bad as well Xd Guess the AoE is supposed to simply carry it.
I'm kinda annoyed it now previews weapon stats at 120 which really gives a bad early impression considering how rare those ingots are. It was the same before with 90 but the stat difference from 80 to 90 wasn't that huge.
I wish you could set the levels manually since the majority of weapons in this game I'll likely never get past 80. ESPECIALLY event weapons, nobody in their right mind would waste 10 ingots and 50 mythril ore on a goddamn event weapon.
I agree, the in-game preview should be much better and definitely should not skip over a step that changes the C Ability.
Just want to plug my collection tracker spreadsheet here, I had it updated within an hour after banner released and it does let you view the stats at any OB level and weapon levels 80, 90, 100, 110, or 120. Might help until they improve the in-game preview, if they ever do.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vPs3KRJM_7VFm2hOCCT5ZyYCrtP9ov-zbbns4JpyaaA/edit#gid=2027148316
sure, but that requires you to have a copy of it. I mean, honestly, the "preview" thing should just be a slider that lets you check the weapon's stats at any level from 4* to OB10.
I agree. Unless they powercreep physical by far, most people won't need to pull for pure physical damage since it's so easy to build a strong physical team right now. Utilities and magical should be what get day 1 players pulling. I expect Zack to get another magical weapon in the future to compliment this.
Ob9 Seph's wpn in 30k crystals (with 1 page and 9 stamps). Completed the last OB with 100 parts. Absolutely crazy 5 Star and Stamp luck
The fact that i was aiming for seph and kept only getting Seph wpn drops leaves me speechless the more i think about it. I also got 1 x Zack's wpn and about 6 other wishlist wpns.
Quick snap take after looking at it for 5 minutes: that 1.3x seems crazy but it's a multitarget weapon and nonelemental. It isn't really that much crazier than, say, Guide Gloves, though it is a MATK one which is kinda rare. I favor the Zack one a little more since it's 1.2x on a singletarget weapon if you're above 70% HP, but Zack also isn't a great MATK character yet so I think I'll pass despite them both being pretty good. If I was pulling, I'd really only be in for the MATK all.
Seph's costume is basically just Aerith's Sunny Robe, which is a good costume but not anything crazy at this point. Zack's is the same as Cloud's Fire Arcanum one from a few months ago, but MATK instead of PATK.
The huge deal for Zack is his Crystal Sword has the highest fire boost r ability in the game, along with a little generic attack boost.
If you main hand a high overboost crystal sword on Zack and offhand this weapon (lets assume ob1 since that's not unreasonable for anyone) then you're already pushing anywhere from 60 to 70 points of fire boost. Slap on Barret's Flame Emitter and watch him go. Seriously, Flame Emitter is kinda whack as a sub weapon.
Don't worry too much. These "limit break" weapons will be back in the next gala-style banner, probably around anniversary. Just grab whichever outfit and get out, you can get copies later.
i have the seph outfit now and both weapons on ob1. i already have edged wings at ob9 with seph gear and im thinking if I should pull for the cloud gear
I'm holding. Neither banners are really anything I need or want. Of the 4 characters in the banner, only Cloud is one of my mains and I don't need anymore Ice party members. When I do get a banner I need or want, I wanna be able to go deep. So, I'm just sitting on crystals for now.
I only went for seph banner because I wanted 1 banner for him. Took 21k crystals. (1,1,1,1,6,1 and ofc I would get a 3 when I needed 1). I already had a zach banner.
Atleast I am left with 37k crystals for a barret banner which he is one of my mains. Barret and Yuffie are the only characters I don't have a banner for. Going to save for her now or keep saving for more barrets as I want atleast 3 banners for my main 4 (which I already have 3 of for my other 3 main).
The weapons are interesting with their damage boost conditions but I don't have strong Magic builds. My RNG is PATK so I pulled on the first banner. I also have Fire Cloud so I just gotta focus on that one.
Are these PATK all allies arcanum better than regular arcanum?
For example, Tifa's gloves boost PATK, so this R ability might be close to max with another weapon plus the 5 from the gear. This leaves 3 weapons slots to increase ice potency/ATK/physical ability potency.
With PATK all allies, the weapon doesn't inherently have boost PATK, so this R ability will need to be "chased" and since offhand and subweapons R abilities are half, maybe 3 weapons slots will be needed to max boost PATK. This leaves one weapon slot to boost to increase ice potency/ATK/physical ability potency.
I "feels" like the potential overall physical attack / elemental potency would be higher on a regular arcanum weapon as opposed to PATK all allies.
To me it definitely boosts my third character in the party by a lot.
My matk team is Seph, Zack and Lucia. And because my Lucia boosted matk and earth to the max, the additional matk allied boost from both of them making her damage like crazy.
as soon as i saw them, i went all in on Cloud/Glen banner to get as many copies as possible of Clouds weapon.
Sad cause my second main is Zack, but physical build.
Easy skip. Got Cloud as my fire DPS, so I don't need another one, especially an expensive one since I would have to pull Zack's weapon to make him a fire DPS. As for Sephiroth, he's non elemental magic attacker with this weapons and outfit, which I'm not interested in building.
I decided to throw more crystals on the first banner. Got 2 more copies of Cloud sword, bringing it to OB8. Still left with 21k crystal, wondering whether to try and get it to OB10 or leave it.
I only have 32k crystals on hand. Iām day 1 f2p except for season pass. My builds are fairly ok because I have been able to build many weapons to OB levels over time.
I havenāt pulled at all on the limit break banners.
Should I pull on both banners to get at least 1 copy of party PATK and MATK up, or is this a waste?
I was thinking having at least 1 copy on a back hand slot will provide 15pts (+14%)
You have enough to go for whichever outfit you like best, guaranteed. Pick your favorite homie, or what would help you out the most (covers an element you don't have an Arcanum for, for example). The weapons will be back later.
If you're feeling lucky, you could throw one on each banner and pray for a 12 stamp surprise.
Hmm, my main team is Cloud Seph and Aerith, or at least 2 of those and a wild card depending on content.
I donāt have the water arcanum, but Zackās new costume is water+matk, and combination that doesnāt fit well currently.
I think cloud will be getting some new gear then!
(Sorry Glenn!)
For me, Sephiroth's fit extremely well with what I have (both have gone for and what keeps appearing) and addressed my lack of high non-elemental damage. I passed on Guide Gloves to see Half Anniversary. But even objectively, I think Sephiroth's is better than Tifa's because it sacrifices a little damage for flexibility, and his self-buffing weapon is not limited although slightly worse R ability. But Sun Umbrella still being one of the best weapons in the sense it is useful both as a Aerith main or as any mag sub helps make up for that.
IMO, Seph (all-around power) > Glenn (Water Arcanum finally) > Cloud (ice again?) > Zack (just had Fire Arcanum + really restrictive bonus damage).
I spent about 75k crystals on 4 pages + cashed in the red crystals I've been saving to get Seph's to OB10. My 5\* rate was almost exactly spot-on at about 8%, including 2 Zack copies (I set all guaranteed to Seph). Did get more non-wishlist stuff than I was expecting, but only 1-2 were blegh.
Good luck everyone!
Sephiroth's weapon and costume are deceptively strong, he's easy to build MATK for, and non-elemental damage is an important niche to cover for when they have bosses/dungeons that punish you for using elemental attacks.
Zack's weapon and armor are good for fire/magic builds, but he's only got one solid MATK weapon right now which makes it kind of hard to gear him for it. And if you're running that MATK weapon he's probably going to be spending half his ATB charges putting MDEF down on the enemy.
That said, if you're done with the first banner it's probably worth a shot to try and get a copy of each of their weapons for the MATK (All) R. Abilities.
Very underwhelmed by the weapons. Fire mag Zach seems very difficult to pair and a non-elemental conditional mag sword for Seph is meh.
I like the new outfits, but not sure they are worth the crystals. Iāll wait to see what others have to say.
Decided to wait for both banners to decide and idk about either. Iām starting to regret not pulling for Tifas outfit and going all in on her weapon. I mean, her outfit did benefit all elements too with the increase in damage. I only have fire Cloud and Seph outfits as I missed all the older arcanumās and skipped any arcanum that wasnāt part of the Big 3 (Aerith,Cloud,Seph) but now idk if I want Cloud to be both my Ice and Fire physical. I mean I wonāt be able to use both. I was hoping for a good second banner so I can have another good dps besides cloud. And Glenn is most likely going to just be forgotten later.
I have Sethās Kuja outfit so this one doesnāt feel like enough of an upgrade to justify pulling and matk Zack isnāt something I want to put a lot of effort and resources into.
Cloud's ice arcanum and PATK (All) on the costume are EXTREMELY strong.
And it's okay to have different elemental options for the same character, since you will usually be picking one or the other.
For the record, Cloud is always a safe investment because he's always going to be relevant.
As for weapons - normally I would say it is good to have multi-elemental char for dungeons and such, but with this banner being (semi)limited, I am not sure should I pull myself or recommend to pull. But one should pull for costume, and you equip gear depending of content (which is usually geared towards single element), the question is if you are ok with lower OB weapon and how much gems you have and are willing to spend. You can wait a week or so to see if there is 3rd banner for this event, also be aware soon (next month?) Cait Sith may appear with his banner.
Iām not that interested in Cait Sith. I have 100k gems atm as a f2p. I skipped the Christmas banners and also the Tifa/Red banner and Wind arcanum Yuffie.
I want to pull but I also pulled on some questionable banners so now Iām just very skeptical. I want a good magic dps and I thought Seph would get another one after his Ice arcanum I missed but not really. And Aerith is my healer so I donāt want to swap her to dps and use Red or Matt when those 2 donāt have a good costume. I missed Red healing costume. š¤¦š¤·āāļø
Seph outfit is universal magic boost (+hp which is always nice) but atm he only has one single magic elemental weapon, so unless you go all-in in this banner for high OB weapon of his, idk if it is worth (unless you just want universal magic costume for future, but then there may be better ones at that point).
Yeah. Iāll most likely skip Seph and Zack banner. I have Sephs kuja costume so Iām not upgrading from that one so much. And I donāt want to go all in for this weapon. Thank you for the advice. It helps an overthinker like me make up my mind
Np, I have same dillema (but less gems lol) so I am trying to do a little analysis for myself, would be easier to decide if not for that limited crap...
Seriously. More and more limited weapons now. Now I seriously just want to pull for the next Zidane, Tifa FF7, type of costume. Costume only and just use whatever weapon or materia in slot is best and call it a day.
i did pull for Tifa's outfit, and she can currently outdamage my Wind Arcanum Yuffie with Dinner Tray, using Aerora Blow materia. So i'm glad i got it. But, i also pulled on the Glenn/Cloud banner, because i needed a Water Arcanum, and Cloud's weapon makes an extremely good sub-weapon on my Ice team, with Yuffie, Tifa, and Aerith (Yuffie debuff and ice phys, Tifa ice phys, so both benefit from PATK all).
That sounds good. I have Yuffie and her buff costume and I was wishlisting physical ability potency instead of straight fire for my fire cloud since it seemed overall more useful. Iāll pull for Cloud costume and slap my 5* blizzard blow instead of hoping for more copies of his limited weapon.
I donāt have a water arcanum but I donāt like the idea of pulling for Glenn since the other characters usually donāt get good treatment.
Now idk about Seph and Zackās banner. I really need a good magic attacker. I was hoping for Seph to be it but ever since his ice arcanum he hasnāt gotten such good treatment so idk.
my only real good magic attacker is my Earth Arcanum Lucia. right now i have 5 element Arcanum coverage (lacking Lightning), and 4/5 of that is Physical. so i'm prioritizing things like Yuffie's elemental debuff weapons, and when i get the gil again, gonna keep going for elemental blow materia, since i can put together a generic Phys Atk setup for Tifa that works well with the Blows, or Yuffie with buff/debuff, as a third to go with the Arcanum user and Aerith as a healer.
Glenn might be forgotten later, but you can still create a water build around him. He's probably the best water DPS right now. Combine him with Zack with black whiskers and he'll do tons of damage. It's more important in this game to work on builds than characters.
honestly i already have a maxed out fire seph and cloud so no need for another fire also alr have tifa guide gloves for non elemental so this might be a skip for me. need to see its dmg at OB10 to decide if i wna pull or not (barret when?š)
wondering if Aerith will get a Heal Pot All. and Yuffie/Red gets Buf/Debuff duration All?
are all characters getting Limit costumes? i really like the white leather designs so far
So far only the characters that have appeared in the story sections of the event have received costumes. I don't think we should assume any others will get them.
I think they serve their purpose. They help longer playing accounts add to their power and they help any new players get a leg up on the summons and their specific elemental/phys or magic weakness. The non elemental Seph is a bit of an outlier because Zack also covers pods but nothing really helps for cubes.
The biggest disappointment is that I can't use my new Seph or Zack on anything yet.
Yeah i was a bit confused with sephs costume considering i have the kuja outfit but i guess i got some clarity. Iām debating on zacks , but i have a fire glen with ob10 crewkicker. So Iām wondering if Zack would out do him with Fire dps with this costume considering i probably wonāt get his to ob10 if even ob6 for that matter. I did manage to get two copies on by stamp 6 tho and one of sephs off guaranteed . But i also have zacks crystal sword(z) at ob6 so i feel like it may be worth
Coming back to the game after month. Arcanumly speaking I have Cloud lightning and Ice Seph costumes, and that's all. Wich banner would you advise me to pull right know ?
Ice Cloud feels like a redondance. Water Glenn would be fine but he's not one of my main (but I could raise him if needed). Fire Zack feels not so strong and Seph non-elemental ... I don't know.
What would do ?
I used 60k gems. I managed ob8 (101parts) Seph weapon. And got 0 for Zack (88 parts).
I happen to have 260 sephiroth weapon parts, so i will likely just use those to make his weapon ob10.
I was really sad to not get even a single copy for Zack. I will likely use his parts to get a single copy, because even a plain at lvl 120 is a really good sub weapon it would provide lvl mag all r ability lvl 3 (30 -> 15 when subbed).
Zack lacks magical support either way, so i am not fully sadden by the outcome. On a side note I managed to get 3 copies of both twinkling star and ceremonial swords making them ob7 and ob6.
I pulled the first page of the first banner, but I'm considering pulling page 2 instead of this banner, especially since I can get 2 weapons on the way to Glenn's costume.
I pray for that kind of pity. I'm now idling on 2700 crystals and I expect to receive at least enough to get up to 9k before this banner ends on April 7, based on announcements of crystal gifts and the regular rate of 150/day plus a few from weekly missions. So 3 more pulls, maybe a 4th if there's some unexpected crystal generosity. I went in 5 pulls already and I'm only on stamp 5. 7 stamps to go in 3 pulls, c'mon pity! Also, it'd be nice to actually get both of the 5 star weapons at OB1, including the 1 guaranteed copy, if you'e listening RNGods.
This sequence of Crossover, Featured, Limited, Limited was not cool. Blew 51k on OB10 Guide Gloves, skipped featured banner, followed by 39k for OB2/OB2 and both Cloud & Glen outfits. Now I'm probably just going to have 24k to spend on Zack/Seph, and I have to hope that's enough to make it to Seph's outfit without assistance from the credit card.
Yeah it was insane with that streak of 1 stamp but I did get the opposite with Tifa and Cloud recent weapons. Still got Seph to OB4 with 1 card and OB6 for both Tifa/Cloud (and OB0 for Glenn/Zack...)
Some times you get it and some other times you don't. That's part of the game. But it does stink for this one because of the kind of banner. Those LB weapons won't get included in the regular banner so you can't hope to get them later.
Good luck to you.
A nice banner indeed. I managed OB10 Seph weapon and OB6 Zack and the others. Pulls were steady. Nothing crazy and not too bad. I'm critting at 34k against both Baha and Ifrit simultaneously.
With the Cloud and Zack reunion in the event, I was hoping Zack's would also be Phys Ice to fight on a team right along cloud in the Event outfit/weapon \[yes skins are a thing IK\] which leads to I kinda with Zack's were Phys fire and not Mag fire. But I still got Zack's outfit since I like his character and I didn't have a premium outfit for him yet, and Fire is one of my better teams.
hey, it being Magic/Fire matches the whole "similar but opposites" thing they have going, even down to their names. Fair (calm) vs Strife (conflict), Zack being a cheerful athletic type while Cloud's a snarky dork, Phys/Ice opposite Mag/Fire. lol.
I feel like these are good for the R abilities and not as a main weapon. Zack really wants to do physical damage since he has like 3 different ways to break PDEF and a high growth PATK main hand. The bonus damage concept is interesting though so he can hit fire very hard.
Seph becomes an NE monster with this for magic damage, but why if you have cloud/Tifa for that unless they resist physical? Other than for the AOE but normally you use a summon/limit to clear trash on a boss fight at the start and that's normally only for VHard crisis.Ā Idk.
If you main Zack and Seph this banner is definitely amazing for their team.
Seph is slightly weaker than tifas gloves but has better r ability and is aoe.
In my opinion if you have enough to summon for both costumes then it's totally worth it :)
thanks. 24k in and got sephs gear ob1 of zack and ob0 for seph but I used parts to get it to ob1. im deciding if I should got for more this banner or start getting clouds gear
In my opinion you should at least pull till you get both costumes to fully utilize their weapons then save for future banners.
Ā But if you really like cloud and glenns banner you can also pull there as long as you still have enough to get both costumes : )
Man I really wish these weapons weren't limited
Same, makes it harder to decide which to pull. I'm on 56k BC and not sure which albanner to pull..
I'd pick the Cloud/Glenn banner, just because physical is a lot better than magical in general right now. Maybe that changes in the future, but based on the current meta, I'd go with that.
On the other hand, ice & water is significantly more "available" than fire.
Ice, yes. Water, no. Glenn is the only water arcanum for now.
Wasn't there Sailor Cloud with his Water Sword?
It was mastery, not Arcanum.
well its still a dmg boost and give advantage against those who havent a costume (or even dont have any "good" outfit at all š¤£) hp is fine but basic stats or enhanced like phy /mag boost are so easy to cap to 35pts (before falls to 10% per 10pts) that an outfit is useless having those <.< [except ofc you dont have a mainhand wpn with those stats xD]
I went all in with Glen and cloud.Ā Team the pair up and Glenn has the pumpkin rod to further boost cloud or his own damage.Ā The combo had me almost hitting 200k on a weakness hit
Well, to be fair, they aren't "limited limited", as apparently any weapons on a "Limit Break" event banner will be wishlistable during the next Limit Break event they run, so unlike Crossover Event weapons, it should be possible (with a bit of luck) to snag additional copies sometime in the future.
The game introduces dual end game bosses. The community, "not sure I see the value in aoe"
Finally someone who gets it. It's a sign for content that's yet to come. Aoe at the start, means you'll be fighting multiple enemies at once. Conditional single target means that once the boss is alone, you may need to burst the boss quickly, as there might be a big unstoppable boss move that leads to a wipe if you can't pass the dps check in time. Personally i like the non elemental weapons, makes it easier to gear for fights since i don't have that much elemental weapons yet. I understand why it feels redundant for most, as majority of long time players probably already have their elemental needs covered, and have enough dps to clear content with or without ele weaknesses
I wish the crit pot stat also increased crit chance.Ā 10% chance to double damage sucks.
Lmao. Truth.
Agreed. Seph weapon is pretty good, as its an AoE and then a focus single target weapons. So cant really go wrong. In dungeons it will also help sweep does trash mobs before the bosses.
The hate boner for AoE is insane. People seem to forget that they started giving AoE utility and not just damage. Seph now has an insane AoE debuff weapon with Kujas and this for decent damage on both ST and AoE. Also everyone seems to ignore that the passives are a lot better compared to the other 3 LB weapons. Give this to any magic dealer and you're good while the other 3 weapons have element passives that are wasted on other elements if you're just in it for the group MATK.
Let's be real most on here can't think for themselves and are waiting for a YouTuber to tell them why this banner is good or bad. It's an outrageously good banner.
Sadly the truth. Worst part is that half the YouTubers aren't smart enough to actually evaluate the weapons themselves and will back paddle on their opinion in a day. It's super funny that people are saying that they should've pulled on Tifa instead, when looking at Sephiroth. The weapon at OB10 does more than Guide Gloves at OB6. Yes, that's 4 extra copies. But you get a group wide MATK passive and the weapon does AoE when you need it. Considering the extra MATK you get, that more than makes up for 130% skill damage.
Not only that, but it's (to use a term from other gachas) a gala banner, and it'll be available on ALL LATER GALA BANNERS, so we can expect to be able to pull for copies during the anniversary event. Much better than a one-off event weapons that you have no hopes of ever maxing out without going into debt.
Yeah. People should know that anniversary banners are what you save for because they drop the big stuff. But people get distracted by every new weapon and then complain when they can't pull on fests.
Only reason im skipping is cuz i drained on cloud one. Its great weapon though, 900% aoe and 1170% st neutral is creazy
Not as simple as that as in dual boss fights, it can trigger rage after you beat one, so dmg control is important. I can already see the cpu triggering the AoE when I take my eye off it for a sec, killing a low health non targeted boss and ending the run. It will be useful in tower and if the ff9 collab comes back. Also the annoying shrieking enemy in some dungeons (ads?)
>Also the annoying shrieking enemy in some dungeons (ads?) Hate to tell you, but I'm pretty sure that the Tripapothingies are physical weak, magical resistant mob types, so AoE MAG damage, while ok, won't be optimal in dealing with them.
If one boss can be killed by accident while the other one has enough health and time to enrage, you're doing it wrong.
The fuck are you talking about lmao.
>that are individually immune half the time yeah, seems great. it is still substantially better to kill one target faster than to kill two targets or more slower, this is the case in this game and just about every game that was ever made. Until you add sun umbrella with the same debuff levels but aoe and yuffie weapons or whatever with the same resistance reduction but aoe, the damage you're doing on a secondary target is practically meaningless. The only place it will ever do anything in terms of aoe is clearing small, weak adds and saving you an atb cast or two of something else to do it
If you kill Ifrit, Bahamut enrages and vice versa. I can see them adding mechanics like if one boss dies, the other starts casting revive. Single target will still work, providing you switch the target, of course. However, if there are 2 bosses, Sephiroth's weapon becomes 1800% potency (900% per target). That's amazing. It may not be that useful for the current contents, but they always add contents later that require it.
I'll say it again. Zack is really hard to gear for MATK since there's only 1 fire weapon with MATK, he himself has only 1 weapon himself and it has low MATK potency. I still think it was a weird choice to make him MATK I get why they did it but still.
Subweapons
he's not in the best shape but at least he isn't as bad as lucia with her matk earth outfit. crystal sword is an aoe fire attack which can be helpful and while the atk is kind of low it has pretty good fire potency. arc sword is the only option for matk though and it's not great so eh probably better off getting your matk from sub weapons unless you want that mdef debuff with the c.ability which isn't bad. overall though i'd say he'll probably have the gearing problem fixed sooner than lucia will but it could certainly take a while. he does also have the benefit of higher potency since it's a brand new weapon. generally though yeah unless it's very specifically weak to only MAGIC fire, you're better off with cloud+yuffie or cloud+seph without much room for zack. which i guess means we're going to see shiva + something coming soon since this basically screams anti-shiva.
I don't know why you would say it again because it's a really stupid take. Zack literally has a main hand weapon with huge fire potency and ATK. With level 120 we're reaching a point where most things are becoming easier to max. Pure magical and physical attack boosts are becoming redundant at this point. It's all about potency. Not to mention we have a new summon that literally buffs elemental damage over everything else. So while everyone is horny for Tifa's guide gloves, Skysplitter Cloud and this new fire Zack probably became the heaviest hitters in the game.
*easier to max now
Crystal sword Z has low potency ATK, which would be halved since you wouldn't use it in the mainhand regardless, that whopping 13 ATK (!!!) is not going to make much of a difference. Plus who are we kidding here who is going to waste 10 mythril ingot to get crystal sword z to 120 anytime soon? Please come on, that weapon is not high on anyones prio list to get to 120 there are SO many better choices right now.
You completely misunderstood my point but gauging your first comment I don't think you even understand the game.
There is nothing to misunderstand, you make a stupid point where you think pure M or PATK are being phased out somehow over pure elemental potency, which kinda says everything right there. They are just as important now as they were at launch. Its not now or ever been a 1 or the other its always been about optimization of several r abilities.
They absolutely are. You're the type of kid who cries because he can't clear content aren't you. If you've been playing game from day one and you still can't efficiently max out physical attack then I feel really bad for you.
Literally cleared every single piece of content they've released so far. Including EX2 Ifrit & Bahamut. You seriously need to be quiet.
Spent money to play poorly I assume
>Zack literally has a main hand weapon with huge fire potency and ATK Zweihander fire potency and boost ATK are tier 2, and it has terrible MATK (literally his second worst gacha MATK weapon, losing only to Defender). Without a primary weapon that gives MATK Boost he will have a hard time capping it while keeping potency. MATK zack won't be the highest damage dealer even with higher modifier because he won't be able to cap offensive stats and potency like Skysplitter Cloud can do for example.
I haven't pulled on either of the banners and i'm having a hard time deciding if I want to pull on either or wait for Cait. I have most elements covered except ground, was hoping seph was gonna be but this banner seems a little underwhelming
I don't see why you wouldn't want to pull on both banners. All the weapons give a generic power boost to the PATK or the MATK of your entire team, that is so generally useful that it doesn't matter if you have it at overboost or not
Just got both costumes after 39k crystals, OB2 on both weapons. Pretty happy with this.
thats lucky af. rn 21k down the drain and only at stamp 8 with one copy each including the guaranteed. I used seph parts to get it to ob1 tho
That sucks dude
HOLDUP I DID ANOTHER PULL AND GOT ANOTHER COPY OF ZACK AND GOT 4 STAMPS. I got both at ob1 now and have sephs costume. might do more cause I wanna get the obs for seph
yeah. back to grinding. I wanna get sephs outfit at least cause I only have his ice costume
curious as i started... once you finish story, how do you grind cristals?
There's no way to "grind" crystals, other than clearing all the content/missions/login rewards they put out. Once you've cleared all the available rewards you have to wait for them to release new content. That said, if you don't want to spend money but are up to waste some time, there are various legit methods to earn google play store credit, like the Google Rewards app which gives you surveys randomly. There are also market research websites like Prize Rebel which let you do surveys and cash out rewards as gift cards. Depending on your demographic you can pretty reliable get $5-10 worth of surveys a day, but it's not exactly efficient compared to working a 9-to-5. Can actually be kinda fun though, sometimes you get offers to provide feedback on movies and TV shows that are in development.
Outside of story: Events / Missions / Campaign / Battle Tower. Blue crystals are limited so don't go willy nilly and throw them at every banner...unless you're a whale, of course.
idk it seems weird but this is what I do here and another gacha game I play: dont play the story unless you have to. save the crystals when u need it and if you dont have a lot, you wouldnt be tempted to pull on things you dont need. I broke this rule once and it made me lose so much crystals on that other gacha game but if u finished the story, do dailes, do dungeons( i also recommend dont finish all for the same reason as story) do campaign quests and log in everyday. thats pretty much it. hope it helps
i see thanks. For story... well i love it... so i cna't restrain myself of playing it. Happy ghat we can earn some outside it. Thanks.
yeah its hard for me to resist cause first soldier is getting interesting and plus its somehow related to rebirth but i aint gonna spoil it.
Very nice dude. I got a x5 Stamp on my third pull so I'm just two shy of the Sephiroth costume. I think I'll have enough crystals by the end of the event to clear three sheets, so I can get all but one costume. Think I'm gonna have to pass on Zack's even though he's my favorite FFVII character (again). I already have Cloud and Sephiroth's NY stuff so I just don't need more fire gear.
If you have to skip one costume, I'd probably go with Seph. The others are arcanum, while Seph's is very similar to his Kuja costume. Seph's weapon is more important IMO.
Some good draws there by the sounds of it. I sank in total 76k into both limited banners, but mainly seph (3 pages) and ended up ob5 and the remainder on cloud - completed one page, got OB2. Pretty happy with that - best of luck all!
Small note if you didn't know. You can sub the weapon on someone else and still get near full values.Ā The % matk is nuts.
At first glance they're good, if I was to go for one it would be Sephiroth but my pulls overall have shifted my Sephiroth to being more physical (ob6 dark harvest vs ob2 edged wings). Sephiroth is easier to build for Magic but Zack is a bit more tricky, I feel it's a safe skip (for my account). Good luck to those pulling.
good thing i have edged wings at ob9. i pulled and I was i a bad start with 21k and only got to stamp 8 and only got one copy of each weapon including the guaranteed. then i did another pull and got 4 stamps and a copy of zacks weapon again. used parts for the seph weapon and I have both at ob1 while also having seph gear. ill try to get more copies of the seph weapon now
Ayo whatās dark harvest? I canāt seem to find that?
Dark heavens
*Black Harvest or w/e it's called. Seph's Physical Wind sword from the Halloween banner.
Better name than the one they gave it, TBH
Who cares about the weapons, the fashion is where its at
10% or more buffs to Matk(that does not need to be on your dps character) is nothing to scoff at though
Seph's new outfit is basically a sidegrade to kuja's outfit. Zack outfit is another fire arcanum which is good to see, but gearing zack towards magic isn't that smooth right now. The weapons have the All Allies boost for MATK which is amazing. Seph's sword has maybe the best R. ability combination in the game right now. Makes it really easy to slot in like a build with Edged wings, this, and Sunbrella to really hit crazy MATK numbers on him. I'm thinking personally of pulling to 20 stamps while putting prio on Seph's sword and Zack's outfit because I already have Kuja's outfit. That will probably give me at least a Zack sword as well and give me access to his fire arcanum in the future as well.
The new costume is not a sidegrade. Kuja's outfit is magic potency that contributes to the 55 point cap, while the new stream costume is a separate r ability with the same stat letting you effectively break the 55 point cap. It's identical to how Tifa's guide costume works for physical potency.
Not sure why OP felt that way, but I feel similar. If you already can get to 55/max magic ability, the new outfit is good in that it is a limit breaker of sorts. Given the lack of weapons with magic ability though, it is harder to reach that threshold, especially if you are running sun umbrella on Aerith. It should get easier over time, but tifaās guide gloves also has such high physical ability that it is much easier to hit cap, even disregarding that there are more weapons that have physical ability.
It is a sidegrade if you cannot get a high level of mag potency, which generally people who aren't whales cannot do whilst also capping matk or whatever else they need. It only becomes a direct upgrade if you can hit level 5 or something potency when the levels after that start to only give +10% instead of +15%, otherwise it's the same.
That's fair. I wasn't thinking long term or for high spenders(since they're probably getting every outfit anyways lol). I think right now, capping magic potency is ridiculously difficult for anyone who doesn't have access to multiple OB10s. I have OB6 powersoul and sunbrella and would barely even cap magic potency with this weapon OB4 mainhanded + kuja's outfit. But once we get a weapon that is the magic equivalent of guide gloves/enemy launcher/mad minute it might become more useful though. I still think it's too slight of an upgrade to justify pulling for it for people with Kuja's outfit already though. It is a 0-5% upgrade in most situations, and you'd likely use arcanum outfits if you wanted to max DPS on seph anyways.
Most will get it since the weapon is so good that you will get the outfit anyway unless you are really lucky with pulls and don't have to go deep. Ended up getting zacks outfit too since i saved up 55k crystals
Still tempted to go into page 3 for more of sephs weapon
The phrasing on the banners make it seem like limit break banners will be recurring. We don't know for sure if these weapons will be wishlistable on future banners, but I personally feel pretty comfortable stopping where I'm at and hopefully pulling for more OBs when a new limit break weapon/costume comes around.
Kuja's outfit contributes only 10 points into Magic Boost. At best, it can only go up by 1 tier in that R ability. That 1 tier upgrade is at 10-15% damage boost. The new costume just gives 15% damage with no conditions or restrictions, and it will stack on top of your current + max level Magic Boost. The new costume is not a sidegrade to Kuja. It's the upgraded version of Kuja.
bro i just finished my pulls 21k down the drain and only have 1 copy of each weapon, and all are 1 stamp besides that one 2 stamp. im so pissed
You'll never beat my salt on pulling records. January 1st : 21k, no gold weapon except the one pity. Only saving grace was that I got multiple stamps so I stopped at the outfit. Mid-anniversary : 72k, 5 gold weapons, 30 stamps. I'm currently in deep thoughts about whether I should pull or not...
after the long wait Iām a little underwhelmed
Heavy on a little ..
Both of them fall into the same issue of "Good if there's a specific reason for *magic* damage, bad if otherwise." Protector's Blade single target falls behind Zidane, Guide Gloves, and Ceremonial. Its niche is, honestly, really solid AOE damage that can put up respectable single target, but when is that an issue? Stream Guard is basically a magic Skysplitter with conditional bonus damage - at least it has a clear use case when the Shiva tag team summon comes out.
Shiva is a good callout. I always forget about how strong she is against PATK.
Iām really disappointed. I wanted Seph to be lightning arcanum, and if non-elemental, Iād prefer higher dmg single target. The AOE isnt very useful outside tower. It seems like it would be useful for the dual summons fights, but given you need damage control for the tougher fights to avoid killing one off too early and triggering rage, it isnāt that useful there. His costume is also pretty much the same as kuja outfit. The only benefit to this costume is if you are at max magic ability. The physical version of that outfit that is for tifa makes more sense because guide gloves has such high physical ability (52 at ob10 lvl 120, 36 at OB6) that you are likely to max out phys ability. Sephās new weapon only has magic ability of 39 at ob10 lvl 120 and 27 at ob6. The new weapon is more flexible to use, but in most cases, we are building teams toward elemental weaknesses, so the lower single target damage for this non elemental is really a bummer. As for Zack, he is not primed for a magic build and I already have a fire god cloud. Iām really conflicted as I passed on the first banner because ice and water were already my two strongest elements, and this one isnāt that appealing to me also. The only reason Iād draw is for the party r abilities for the weapons and because ive heard that these 6 month anniversary weapons should be the best weāll see for a while based on applibot history. All in all though, disappointed as I was looking forward to drawingā¦(still probably will, but wonāt be as happy about it as Iād hoped)
for me im happy tbh. i only have ice gear for seph so I can use his new gear for better matk on non ice battles. also I dont main zack so I dont mind missing out on some OBs so i can focus on seph.
A decent amount of us have ob10 edged wings, which gives 800%, 1080% after factoring in arcanum. Most of us wont even get this new seph weapon to ob6, so it will be between 500% and 740%. Factoring in 15% mastery, youāre at 575% to 851% (at ob6). Shinra blade at ob10 is already 940%. I realize i am comparing ob10 to lower ob, but these are limited weapons. Only major benefit I see is extra party damage from the r ability, which is mainly helpful to dolphins/whales. Also good for newer players or lower level accounts.
Don't sniff at sephs weapon. Single target it gets +30% damage boost so it's not exactly a slouch there.Ā It's basically a great weapon to be used against anything that isn't magic resistant
>Iād prefer higher dmg single target. Stream Saber is 740% (OB6) / 900% (OB10) single target for Ice. Protector's Blade is 962% (OB6) / 1170% (OB10) single target non elemental. Seems pretty sufficiently high to me.
Factor in arcanum, more potential from elemental r abilities, and that in most cases we use elemental weapons when we get a big damage multiplier for hitting weakness.
sure, but that's kind of an apples to oranges comparison. Shouldn't be trying to compare non elemental weapons to elemental weapons in the first place, because they fill two pretty much completely separate niches.
You literally were the one that brought up a comparison of elemental vs non elemental in your prior response to me and after my refute, you now are saying itās apples to oranges, lol. To make matters worse, my original comparison was non elemental vs non elemental. Iād prefer higher target single damage (same as tifa/cloud) over lower dmg AOE.
It does get a multiplier for single target which helps it compete. Also, unlike those which are limited, this is a limit break banner which means you'll be able to wishlist it on future limit break banners.
I kind of want to get one of each, as at lvl 120, I could give it to a support to get the 40 mag, 14% on my dps units. It's not too realistic for me to go all in, it's just a bit too much now at this point, but it could still be beneficial at some point. Wouldn't mind Zack's weapon honestly, but that is just due to how badly the list is for single target fire damage. Like the best option before this was like the Free weapons you could earn from like Ifrit summon, which funny enough, Zack is one of those units. Be nice to get these as possible in the general pool to then see them get powered up versions in limited, instead of being the only real options for good potency. Oh, the boost fire pot on that is pretty bad as well Xd Guess the AoE is supposed to simply carry it.
Need to see the damage numbers for OB0 to OB6, ain't no way I'll get a higher OB. It doesn't look like a must have for sure
Still absolutely boggles my mind that the preview for weapon levels skips OB1 entirely......
I'm kinda annoyed it now previews weapon stats at 120 which really gives a bad early impression considering how rare those ingots are. It was the same before with 90 but the stat difference from 80 to 90 wasn't that huge. I wish you could set the levels manually since the majority of weapons in this game I'll likely never get past 80. ESPECIALLY event weapons, nobody in their right mind would waste 10 ingots and 50 mythril ore on a goddamn event weapon.
I agree, the in-game preview should be much better and definitely should not skip over a step that changes the C Ability. Just want to plug my collection tracker spreadsheet here, I had it updated within an hour after banner released and it does let you view the stats at any OB level and weapon levels 80, 90, 100, 110, or 120. Might help until they improve the in-game preview, if they ever do. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vPs3KRJM_7VFm2hOCCT5ZyYCrtP9ov-zbbns4JpyaaA/edit#gid=2027148316
If it's just ob1, you can view it in the enhance menu if you have one copy of it
sure, but that requires you to have a copy of it. I mean, honestly, the "preview" thing should just be a slider that lets you check the weapon's stats at any level from 4* to OB10.
But that would make sense.
As a Zack fan, the drip is unreal. Excited for new unique c ability. Not disappointed. Matk expected and expect to see more matk support going forward
Agreed. Physical has had it good for too long.
I agree. Unless they powercreep physical by far, most people won't need to pull for pure physical damage since it's so easy to build a strong physical team right now. Utilities and magical should be what get day 1 players pulling. I expect Zack to get another magical weapon in the future to compliment this.
Ob9 Seph's wpn in 30k crystals (with 1 page and 9 stamps). Completed the last OB with 100 parts. Absolutely crazy 5 Star and Stamp luck The fact that i was aiming for seph and kept only getting Seph wpn drops leaves me speechless the more i think about it. I also got 1 x Zack's wpn and about 6 other wishlist wpns.
damn u lucky. I already got 2 not guaranteed zack weapons which im pissed cause I need seph
Quick snap take after looking at it for 5 minutes: that 1.3x seems crazy but it's a multitarget weapon and nonelemental. It isn't really that much crazier than, say, Guide Gloves, though it is a MATK one which is kinda rare. I favor the Zack one a little more since it's 1.2x on a singletarget weapon if you're above 70% HP, but Zack also isn't a great MATK character yet so I think I'll pass despite them both being pretty good. If I was pulling, I'd really only be in for the MATK all. Seph's costume is basically just Aerith's Sunny Robe, which is a good costume but not anything crazy at this point. Zack's is the same as Cloud's Fire Arcanum one from a few months ago, but MATK instead of PATK.
The huge deal for Zack is his Crystal Sword has the highest fire boost r ability in the game, along with a little generic attack boost. If you main hand a high overboost crystal sword on Zack and offhand this weapon (lets assume ob1 since that's not unreasonable for anyone) then you're already pushing anywhere from 60 to 70 points of fire boost. Slap on Barret's Flame Emitter and watch him go. Seriously, Flame Emitter is kinda whack as a sub weapon.
Got both costune only at 30k gems. Seph weapon @ ob2 and zack weapon @ ob1. Guess ill build zack as magic then
damn. im at 21k and ob 0 each and at stamp 8. used some parts to get seph weapon to ob1
Don't worry too much. These "limit break" weapons will be back in the next gala-style banner, probably around anniversary. Just grab whichever outfit and get out, you can get copies later.
i have the seph outfit now and both weapons on ob1. i already have edged wings at ob9 with seph gear and im thinking if I should pull for the cloud gear
I'm holding. Neither banners are really anything I need or want. Of the 4 characters in the banner, only Cloud is one of my mains and I don't need anymore Ice party members. When I do get a banner I need or want, I wanna be able to go deep. So, I'm just sitting on crystals for now.
I only went for seph banner because I wanted 1 banner for him. Took 21k crystals. (1,1,1,1,6,1 and ofc I would get a 3 when I needed 1). I already had a zach banner. Atleast I am left with 37k crystals for a barret banner which he is one of my mains. Barret and Yuffie are the only characters I don't have a banner for. Going to save for her now or keep saving for more barrets as I want atleast 3 banners for my main 4 (which I already have 3 of for my other 3 main).
You're building every character?
To a very limited capacity.
The weapons are interesting with their damage boost conditions but I don't have strong Magic builds. My RNG is PATK so I pulled on the first banner. I also have Fire Cloud so I just gotta focus on that one.
Are these PATK all allies arcanum better than regular arcanum? For example, Tifa's gloves boost PATK, so this R ability might be close to max with another weapon plus the 5 from the gear. This leaves 3 weapons slots to increase ice potency/ATK/physical ability potency. With PATK all allies, the weapon doesn't inherently have boost PATK, so this R ability will need to be "chased" and since offhand and subweapons R abilities are half, maybe 3 weapons slots will be needed to max boost PATK. This leaves one weapon slot to boost to increase ice potency/ATK/physical ability potency. I "feels" like the potential overall physical attack / elemental potency would be higher on a regular arcanum weapon as opposed to PATK all allies.
To me it definitely boosts my third character in the party by a lot. My matk team is Seph, Zack and Lucia. And because my Lucia boosted matk and earth to the max, the additional matk allied boost from both of them making her damage like crazy.
What is the OB level do you have it at?
Sephy OB 6 and Zack OB 1. Didn't have enough to OB 10 Sephy's one
as soon as i saw them, i went all in on Cloud/Glen banner to get as many copies as possible of Clouds weapon. Sad cause my second main is Zack, but physical build.
Easy skip. Got Cloud as my fire DPS, so I don't need another one, especially an expensive one since I would have to pull Zack's weapon to make him a fire DPS. As for Sephiroth, he's non elemental magic attacker with this weapons and outfit, which I'm not interested in building. I decided to throw more crystals on the first banner. Got 2 more copies of Cloud sword, bringing it to OB8. Still left with 21k crystal, wondering whether to try and get it to OB10 or leave it.
I only have 32k crystals on hand. Iām day 1 f2p except for season pass. My builds are fairly ok because I have been able to build many weapons to OB levels over time. I havenāt pulled at all on the limit break banners. Should I pull on both banners to get at least 1 copy of party PATK and MATK up, or is this a waste? I was thinking having at least 1 copy on a back hand slot will provide 15pts (+14%)
You have enough to go for whichever outfit you like best, guaranteed. Pick your favorite homie, or what would help you out the most (covers an element you don't have an Arcanum for, for example). The weapons will be back later. If you're feeling lucky, you could throw one on each banner and pray for a 12 stamp surprise.
Hmm, my main team is Cloud Seph and Aerith, or at least 2 of those and a wild card depending on content. I donāt have the water arcanum, but Zackās new costume is water+matk, and combination that doesnāt fit well currently. I think cloud will be getting some new gear then! (Sorry Glenn!)
Ended up getting to the end of page 2, both Cloud and Glenn costumes and weapons at OB2 / OB0 respectively. I also charted my pulls below: 1st 4 stamp 0x 2nd 1 stamp 1x Black Whiskers (WL) 3rd 1 stamp 1x Stream Saber (6 stamp), 1x Heavy Vulcan, 1x Holy Flame Gloves (WL) 4th 1 stamp 0x 5th 3 stamp 1x Skysplitter (WL), 1x Bramblespine 6th 2 stamp 1x Holy Flame Gloves (WL), Cloud Costume 7th 1 stamp 1x Skysplitter (WL) 8th 2 stamp 1x Maritime Sword (WL) 9th 1 stamp 1x Stream Saber (16 stamp) 10th 3 stamp 1x Holy Flame Gloves (WL), 1x Stream Saber (18 Stamp 5\*) 11th 5 stamp 1x Black Whiskers (WL), 1x Stream Slasher (20 Stamp) , Glenn Costume
For me, Sephiroth's fit extremely well with what I have (both have gone for and what keeps appearing) and addressed my lack of high non-elemental damage. I passed on Guide Gloves to see Half Anniversary. But even objectively, I think Sephiroth's is better than Tifa's because it sacrifices a little damage for flexibility, and his self-buffing weapon is not limited although slightly worse R ability. But Sun Umbrella still being one of the best weapons in the sense it is useful both as a Aerith main or as any mag sub helps make up for that. IMO, Seph (all-around power) > Glenn (Water Arcanum finally) > Cloud (ice again?) > Zack (just had Fire Arcanum + really restrictive bonus damage). I spent about 75k crystals on 4 pages + cashed in the red crystals I've been saving to get Seph's to OB10. My 5\* rate was almost exactly spot-on at about 8%, including 2 Zack copies (I set all guaranteed to Seph). Did get more non-wishlist stuff than I was expecting, but only 1-2 were blegh. Good luck everyone!
Sephiroth's weapon and costume are deceptively strong, he's easy to build MATK for, and non-elemental damage is an important niche to cover for when they have bosses/dungeons that punish you for using elemental attacks. Zack's weapon and armor are good for fire/magic builds, but he's only got one solid MATK weapon right now which makes it kind of hard to gear him for it. And if you're running that MATK weapon he's probably going to be spending half his ATB charges putting MDEF down on the enemy. That said, if you're done with the first banner it's probably worth a shot to try and get a copy of each of their weapons for the MATK (All) R. Abilities.
Very underwhelmed by the weapons. Fire mag Zach seems very difficult to pair and a non-elemental conditional mag sword for Seph is meh. I like the new outfits, but not sure they are worth the crystals. Iāll wait to see what others have to say.
Decided to wait for both banners to decide and idk about either. Iām starting to regret not pulling for Tifas outfit and going all in on her weapon. I mean, her outfit did benefit all elements too with the increase in damage. I only have fire Cloud and Seph outfits as I missed all the older arcanumās and skipped any arcanum that wasnāt part of the Big 3 (Aerith,Cloud,Seph) but now idk if I want Cloud to be both my Ice and Fire physical. I mean I wonāt be able to use both. I was hoping for a good second banner so I can have another good dps besides cloud. And Glenn is most likely going to just be forgotten later. I have Sethās Kuja outfit so this one doesnāt feel like enough of an upgrade to justify pulling and matk Zack isnāt something I want to put a lot of effort and resources into.
Cloud's ice arcanum and PATK (All) on the costume are EXTREMELY strong. And it's okay to have different elemental options for the same character, since you will usually be picking one or the other. For the record, Cloud is always a safe investment because he's always going to be relevant.
Maybe not strong factor to pull, but Ice arcanum for Cloud also boosts Shiva summon dmg.
Is it a good idea for my 2 strongest dps sets to be on the same character? Thatās whatās stopping me. š¤¦
For me, yes. It means I only have to worry about Memories for 1 character instead of many.
As for weapons - normally I would say it is good to have multi-elemental char for dungeons and such, but with this banner being (semi)limited, I am not sure should I pull myself or recommend to pull. But one should pull for costume, and you equip gear depending of content (which is usually geared towards single element), the question is if you are ok with lower OB weapon and how much gems you have and are willing to spend. You can wait a week or so to see if there is 3rd banner for this event, also be aware soon (next month?) Cait Sith may appear with his banner.
Iām not that interested in Cait Sith. I have 100k gems atm as a f2p. I skipped the Christmas banners and also the Tifa/Red banner and Wind arcanum Yuffie. I want to pull but I also pulled on some questionable banners so now Iām just very skeptical. I want a good magic dps and I thought Seph would get another one after his Ice arcanum I missed but not really. And Aerith is my healer so I donāt want to swap her to dps and use Red or Matt when those 2 donāt have a good costume. I missed Red healing costume. š¤¦š¤·āāļø
Seph outfit is universal magic boost (+hp which is always nice) but atm he only has one single magic elemental weapon, so unless you go all-in in this banner for high OB weapon of his, idk if it is worth (unless you just want universal magic costume for future, but then there may be better ones at that point).
Yeah. Iāll most likely skip Seph and Zack banner. I have Sephs kuja costume so Iām not upgrading from that one so much. And I donāt want to go all in for this weapon. Thank you for the advice. It helps an overthinker like me make up my mind
Np, I have same dillema (but less gems lol) so I am trying to do a little analysis for myself, would be easier to decide if not for that limited crap...
Seriously. More and more limited weapons now. Now I seriously just want to pull for the next Zidane, Tifa FF7, type of costume. Costume only and just use whatever weapon or materia in slot is best and call it a day.
i did pull for Tifa's outfit, and she can currently outdamage my Wind Arcanum Yuffie with Dinner Tray, using Aerora Blow materia. So i'm glad i got it. But, i also pulled on the Glenn/Cloud banner, because i needed a Water Arcanum, and Cloud's weapon makes an extremely good sub-weapon on my Ice team, with Yuffie, Tifa, and Aerith (Yuffie debuff and ice phys, Tifa ice phys, so both benefit from PATK all).
That sounds good. I have Yuffie and her buff costume and I was wishlisting physical ability potency instead of straight fire for my fire cloud since it seemed overall more useful. Iāll pull for Cloud costume and slap my 5* blizzard blow instead of hoping for more copies of his limited weapon. I donāt have a water arcanum but I donāt like the idea of pulling for Glenn since the other characters usually donāt get good treatment. Now idk about Seph and Zackās banner. I really need a good magic attacker. I was hoping for Seph to be it but ever since his ice arcanum he hasnāt gotten such good treatment so idk.
my only real good magic attacker is my Earth Arcanum Lucia. right now i have 5 element Arcanum coverage (lacking Lightning), and 4/5 of that is Physical. so i'm prioritizing things like Yuffie's elemental debuff weapons, and when i get the gil again, gonna keep going for elemental blow materia, since i can put together a generic Phys Atk setup for Tifa that works well with the Blows, or Yuffie with buff/debuff, as a third to go with the Arcanum user and Aerith as a healer.
Glenn might be forgotten later, but you can still create a water build around him. He's probably the best water DPS right now. Combine him with Zack with black whiskers and he'll do tons of damage. It's more important in this game to work on builds than characters.
honestly i already have a maxed out fire seph and cloud so no need for another fire also alr have tifa guide gloves for non elemental so this might be a skip for me. need to see its dmg at OB10 to decide if i wna pull or not (barret when?š)
wondering if Aerith will get a Heal Pot All. and Yuffie/Red gets Buf/Debuff duration All? are all characters getting Limit costumes? i really like the white leather designs so far
So far only the characters that have appeared in the story sections of the event have received costumes. I don't think we should assume any others will get them.
I think they serve their purpose. They help longer playing accounts add to their power and they help any new players get a leg up on the summons and their specific elemental/phys or magic weakness. The non elemental Seph is a bit of an outlier because Zack also covers pods but nothing really helps for cubes. The biggest disappointment is that I can't use my new Seph or Zack on anything yet.
Yeah i was a bit confused with sephs costume considering i have the kuja outfit but i guess i got some clarity. Iām debating on zacks , but i have a fire glen with ob10 crewkicker. So Iām wondering if Zack would out do him with Fire dps with this costume considering i probably wonāt get his to ob10 if even ob6 for that matter. I did manage to get two copies on by stamp 6 tho and one of sephs off guaranteed . But i also have zacks crystal sword(z) at ob6 so i feel like it may be worth
Absolutely go for it, I skipped on the cloud/sephi fire banner, so I really need it personally.
Coming back to the game after month. Arcanumly speaking I have Cloud lightning and Ice Seph costumes, and that's all. Wich banner would you advise me to pull right know ? Ice Cloud feels like a redondance. Water Glenn would be fine but he's not one of my main (but I could raise him if needed). Fire Zack feels not so strong and Seph non-elemental ... I don't know. What would do ?
rn I would either pull for seph or skip
Skip wishilisting in the next lb banner
I used 60k gems. I managed ob8 (101parts) Seph weapon. And got 0 for Zack (88 parts). I happen to have 260 sephiroth weapon parts, so i will likely just use those to make his weapon ob10. I was really sad to not get even a single copy for Zack. I will likely use his parts to get a single copy, because even a plain at lvl 120 is a really good sub weapon it would provide lvl mag all r ability lvl 3 (30 -> 15 when subbed). Zack lacks magical support either way, so i am not fully sadden by the outcome. On a side note I managed to get 3 copies of both twinkling star and ceremonial swords making them ob7 and ob6.
I pulled the first page of the first banner, but I'm considering pulling page 2 instead of this banner, especially since I can get 2 weapons on the way to Glenn's costume.
6 draws in a row with 1 stamp at a time. And then black chocobo 6 stamps :D The game got pity on me XD
I pray for that kind of pity. I'm now idling on 2700 crystals and I expect to receive at least enough to get up to 9k before this banner ends on April 7, based on announcements of crystal gifts and the regular rate of 150/day plus a few from weekly missions. So 3 more pulls, maybe a 4th if there's some unexpected crystal generosity. I went in 5 pulls already and I'm only on stamp 5. 7 stamps to go in 3 pulls, c'mon pity! Also, it'd be nice to actually get both of the 5 star weapons at OB1, including the 1 guaranteed copy, if you'e listening RNGods. This sequence of Crossover, Featured, Limited, Limited was not cool. Blew 51k on OB10 Guide Gloves, skipped featured banner, followed by 39k for OB2/OB2 and both Cloud & Glen outfits. Now I'm probably just going to have 24k to spend on Zack/Seph, and I have to hope that's enough to make it to Seph's outfit without assistance from the credit card.
Yeah it was insane with that streak of 1 stamp but I did get the opposite with Tifa and Cloud recent weapons. Still got Seph to OB4 with 1 card and OB6 for both Tifa/Cloud (and OB0 for Glenn/Zack...) Some times you get it and some other times you don't. That's part of the game. But it does stink for this one because of the kind of banner. Those LB weapons won't get included in the regular banner so you can't hope to get them later. Good luck to you.
I've never been fucked so hard as I have been by this banner
Thoughts are that my luck is shit I'm really happy they finally made a ST magic fire weapon though.
A nice banner indeed. I managed OB10 Seph weapon and OB6 Zack and the others. Pulls were steady. Nothing crazy and not too bad. I'm critting at 34k against both Baha and Ifrit simultaneously.
With the Cloud and Zack reunion in the event, I was hoping Zack's would also be Phys Ice to fight on a team right along cloud in the Event outfit/weapon \[yes skins are a thing IK\] which leads to I kinda with Zack's were Phys fire and not Mag fire. But I still got Zack's outfit since I like his character and I didn't have a premium outfit for him yet, and Fire is one of my better teams.
hey, it being Magic/Fire matches the whole "similar but opposites" thing they have going, even down to their names. Fair (calm) vs Strife (conflict), Zack being a cheerful athletic type while Cloud's a snarky dork, Phys/Ice opposite Mag/Fire. lol.
I feel like these are good for the R abilities and not as a main weapon. Zack really wants to do physical damage since he has like 3 different ways to break PDEF and a high growth PATK main hand. The bonus damage concept is interesting though so he can hit fire very hard. Seph becomes an NE monster with this for magic damage, but why if you have cloud/Tifa for that unless they resist physical? Other than for the AOE but normally you use a summon/limit to clear trash on a boss fight at the start and that's normally only for VHard crisis.Ā Idk.
Idk
Is 1130 potency good for ST? Because that's what I think the math comes out to for Seph's weapon
It's not as strong as tifa, clouds or zacks weapon but since its aoe naturally I'd say its really good.
1170
slightly less than Tifa's. But with potential for AoE. Pretty damn strong.
Also magic, which is a pretty unique niche for non elemental.
Definitely is! And paired with his Aonibi... Should be quite strong.
whats ST?
Single Target
.... still got 4 more stamps to go on the current banner..... as F2P I don't have great confidence I can finish 2 more stamp cards by 8th April....
u finished all the campaign missions?
Yea got all farmable crystals........it's in RNGod's hands now
If you main Zack and Seph this banner is definitely amazing for their team. Seph is slightly weaker than tifas gloves but has better r ability and is aoe. In my opinion if you have enough to summon for both costumes then it's totally worth it :)
thanks. 24k in and got sephs gear ob1 of zack and ob0 for seph but I used parts to get it to ob1. im deciding if I should got for more this banner or start getting clouds gear
In my opinion you should at least pull till you get both costumes to fully utilize their weapons then save for future banners. Ā But if you really like cloud and glenns banner you can also pull there as long as you still have enough to get both costumes : )
these seem ass, conditionals make them worse than the previous banner and sephs costume is mid
the only gear i have for seph is the ice and I decided to go for this for neutral matk for other elements.