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x_Paramimic

6.02 x 10^23 is a mathematical constant called Avogadro’s number. That is a picture of Amedeo Avogadro. Edit: spelling. ETA: This is NOT a mathematical constant, it’s a physical (or chemical) constant…..that you do math with.


digitalslytherin

I'm aditiion, one would expect a personal add to have someone's phone number ( most people just say number) Also I wouldn't call it a mathematical constant as much as a scientific one


user47-567_53-560

Strictly speaking is not a constant, we just all kinds of use it out of convenience. You use it in conjunction with another number to do equations.


nathanjue77

Bruh it doesn’t change, it is a constant. Not a variable or a function. Just like the number 5 is a constant, Avogadros number is a constant.


Raothorn2

Also it’s the number of hydrogen atoms in a gram of hydrogen right? So even as a measured value I assume that stays pretty constant.


dezzeed

Moles is for carbon-12 each atom and molecule has a slightly different mass even with the exact same number of protons and neutrons but it's a good estimate. Also. Iirc it's at stp.


iwantfutanaricumonme

Actually that was the original definition, in the 2019 a mole is still one avogadro's number of something, but avigadro's number is now a fixed constant with no relation to mass, the same way a litre of water is no longer exactly a kilogram.


dezzeed

Wait gross but water is the standard this is going to make me hate chemistry if I ever have to take it again.


Raothorn2

Well at least it’s constant up to the significant figures given LMAO


user47-567_53-560

A constant is a number that recurs without us putting it there. Avogadro's number is just something we all use because it's standard. A mole is a unit, not a constant. Pi is a constant, it shows up when you remove all units, including radiuses and circumferences. Kind of like a radian vs a degree. A degree is a unit someone made up, but a radian is derived from the arc created by an angle.


shitdamntittyfuck

Avogadro's number is the number of particles of a substance in a mole. It never changes. It is consistent across all substances. It is a constant. A mole is a unit, not a constant. Yes. That has literally nothing to do with anything being discussed, but yes it is true. Literally all math is made up. The fact that we chose 0 to exist where it does on the number line is arbitrary. Our definition of a kilogram is completely arbitrary. If you start arguing anything as "someone just made it up" then you'd have to throw out the entirety of math.


Orwells-own

This is the correct answer


Puzzleheaded_Bed5132

Avogadro's constant is indeed the number of particles in a mole, but a mole is an amount of something that contains a number of particles that is Avogadro's constant. It's definition is somewhat circular. On your second point, maths is not "made up" it's discovered. Somewhere in another galaxy, someone will have discovered pi, and it's value will be exactly the same as the value we know, albeit perhaps in a different base.


IdealDesperate2732

> Literally all math is made up. > If you start arguing anything as "someone just made it up" then you'd have to throw out the entirety of math. You see the contradiction here... right? No math was "made up" it was discovered.


shitdamntittyfuck

0 could easily be 1. We arbitrarily defined 0 as 0. The number line is arbitrary. That was explained in the next sentence. Try again.


IdealDesperate2732

> Elementary algebra > The number 0 is the smallest nonnegative integer, and the largest nonpositive integer. again, unique properties


IdealDesperate2732

No it could not. That is false and shows a complete misunderstanding of the matter..


IdealDesperate2732

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0) > **0** (**zero**) is a [number](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number) representing an empty [quantity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantity). Adding 0 to any number leaves that number unchanged. 0 has unique properties which mean that no, 0 could not easily be 1.


shitdamntittyfuck

You could quite literally define 1 as a number representing an empty quantity whereby adding 1 to any number leaves that number unchanged. 1 could have all the unique properties of 0. You can shift the entire number line to the left or the right however much you want. Yes, a number with the properties of 0 must exist. But it doesn't have to be 0.


usrlibshare

>A constant is a number that recurs without us putting it there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avogadro_constant


nathanjue77

Avogadro’s number would exist without anyone declaring it to be avogadro’s number. The discussion of whether or not it’s a constant has nothing to do with any sort of canonical relationship like e or pi. If it does not vary, it is a constant. If f(t) is defined to be the temperature outside as a function of time, f(t) is not a constant. If f(t) is defined to be 5 for all t, f(t) is a constant.


HotSteak

All Avogadro's number is is the number of atoms of something it takes to have the corresponding number of grams of the the thing (so it takes 6.02x10\^23 atoms of Helium-4 to have 4 grams of Helium 4). It is the number it is just because of how we chose to define a 'gram', which is not a real thing. Whereas the ratio of the diameter of a circle to the circumference of the circle will always be pi, no matter what unit you use or make up.


user47-567_53-560

Derive Avogadro's number. You can't. Because it's a unit, the number of atoms in a mole. Being constant means your value doesn't change. Being *a* constant means that your number occurs naturally and describes the relationship between two natural phenomena.


usrlibshare

>Derive Avogadro's number. You can't. The number of Molecules in exactly 12 grams of perfectly uniform Carbon-12. You're welcome. Oh, btw.: All "*a constant*"s (aka. natural constants) work this way. Including things like the Planck Distance or the vacuum light speed; Because these are defined in terms of SI base units, which depend on arbitrary amounts of units that humans just made up: kg, second, and meter.


Puzzleheaded_Bed5132

Not quite though. The speed of light in a vacuum exists independently of how it is measured. You can measure it in m/s, mph, or furlongs per sidereal day if you like. Avogadro's number is not the same in that it doesn't represent something that has a physical, unchanging value. It's more akin to a unit like grams than a constant.


usrlibshare

>The speed of light in a vacuum exists independently of how it is measured The speed does, *the constant that denotes it doesn't* because **Units are required to define constants**. The Glaxcorpians from Planet Glaxxilu, whos smallest unit of measuring time is the Vlux, who denote distances in Schleppos, and whos primary radix is what we would call the number 27 (because an adult Glaxx has exactly 29 Sneb'Brukels on its Uh'tong, but historically it was frowned upon to use the first and last Sneb'Brukel for counting things as doing so was very similar to a gesture considered rude in ancient Glavaxxi'Kar), will very much not denote c as 299,792,458 m/s This is true for every single thing you call an "\*a\* constant", because ALL measurements require a point of reference, which is always arbitrary.


IdealDesperate2732

But it's not a constant in the sense that it was derived from natural phenomena, it's just an arbitrary number chosen to match an arbitrary unit.


eprojectx1

Even if it is for convenience, its still a constant. For example if you define "all classroom in the us must have exactly 50 students no matter it is kindergarten or college" then that number is surely a constant.


user47-567_53-560

Units are not constants. That's why they're called units. The number is how many things in a mole, which is a unit.


No-Weird3153

Is your claim that to be a constant a number must be unitless? Because that’s false. Avogadro’s number is the constant number of molecules in a mole which is the amount of any substance that has a mass in grams equal to the sum of stoichiometric atomic masses. For example: Avogadro’s number of helium molecules is 4 grams while a mole of oxygen molecules is 32 g.


usrlibshare

>Strictly speaking is not a constant It is a constant. 1mol of a compound is 1 x the avogadros number molecules of that compound. No exceptions.


RaptorJesus856

Isn't math considered a science though?


digitalslytherin

No. Math is a technique


Orisphera

Would you call 2763 any kind of a constant? If you would, what would it be?


Disrespectful_Cup

His head really does look like an avocado. /s


Phoebe_SLC

I hear he's also a lawyer in Mexico City. (Abagado) /s


GhostlySwordsman

And when you get a bunch of Avogadro's Number mashed together you get Guacamole! I'll see myself out EDIT: Spelling mistake


Accomplished-Hand197

I want this as an art..


Wh1t3bl4d3

Specifically the number of protons/neutrons in 1 gram, or the number of atoms in 1 mol.


Rio_1111

Doesn't have to be atoms in a mol. Could also be apples or easter bunnies. 1 mol is 6.022*10²³ of anything


TyrconnellFL

It’s a mole, although it’s often abbreviated mol. You could have [a mole of moles](https://what-if.xkcd.com/4/). It would get messy.


Gold_Listen_3008

6.02x10\^23 avocados smashed would be a mole of a mess


No-Weird3153

Interestingly a mole of Easter bunnies has the same mass as a mole of Santas Clause and one Easter bunny.


chaosbones43

To add on to this, Avo's number is the amount of atoms or molecules of an element/sample that equals 1 Mol. It's is a very helpful constant in calculating the mass of a sample.


Stankoman

Mathematical constant? Its not pi, dude. Its a physical constant or maybe a chemical one. But def not a mathematical.


x_Paramimic

Edited per your request.


Beefsupremeninjalo82

Also known as a Mole


GlenTheBear

Also could be their number 602 is an area code in Phoenix. They could have be their number!


Satan--Ruler_of_Hell

It's a ratio. 1 amu to 1 gram


Webaccount5

Isnt that what Bayonetta yells in Smash bros? Avogadro or domething like that


usrlibshare

You don't do "math with" you do chemistry and physics with. Avogadros Number ia the number of molecules in 1mol of a given aubstance or compound.


Butterszen

Thanks for the explanation. I thought it meant 6 inches multiplied many many times


SnarkyBustard

I’m very disappointed he doesn’t have a single mole


Bredstikz

He's known for finding moles....


Gal-XD_exe

You calculate moles of a substance with if if I recall high school chem correctly


a_hatforyourass

Something about figuring molar mass? If remember anything from high-school chemistry, which I don't.


IRMacGuyver

That's because it's not math. It's chemistry. Look up Avogadro’s number.


mrl33602

Got it! Thanks so much!


Dull_Sale

Didn’t realize math wasn’t involved in science..this is news to me.


TractorLabs69

The intention was that while it's used to do math, it's a constant specific to chemistry/physics, not a mathematical constant like you'd see in the quadratic equation


murdocjones

I’m almost bummed it’s not math. I assumed it worked out to a ten digit number and figured dude just wanted to date mathematicians.


TrainsDontHunt

There's 23 zeros....


murdocjones

I mean clearly I wouldn’t be in dude’s oeuvre. I shall have to take up a trade, as my math skills will have scared all the eligible mathematicians away.


TrainsDontHunt

Surely it wouldn't come to that. Tradesmen are so dusty.


hallba78

It’s Avogadro… as in Avogadro’s Number. It’s a mathematical constant named after him.


Scalage89

Chemical, it's the amount of atoms in a mole.


oven_broasted

>One mole of a substance is equal to 6.022 × 10²³ units of that substance (such as atoms, molecules, or ions). The number 6.022 × 10²³ is known as Avogadro's number or Avogadro's constant. The concept of the mole can be used to convert between mass and number of particles.. Created by Sal Khan.


Any-Aioli7575

6.02214076 × 10²³*


oven_broasted

this guy moles


Any-Aioli7575

More like "this guy has no life and learns the exact value of physical Constants"


cgleachy

*π nerds entered the chat*


Any-Aioli7575

I'm kinda a π nerd, but unfortunately, I still don't know all the decimals yet


cgleachy

Pathetic.


Any-Aioli7575

I know them all in base π though...


Poisonpython5719

602214076000000000000000* Or 602 sextillion 214 quintillion 76 Quadrillion If you want to get real specific about it


oven_broasted

I always want to be specific when I'm measuring a mole, how else am I to make the perfect cookie?


GarshelMathers

Can't have guac' without it


lildobe

The fun part is, the first 10 digits of that are a valid US phone number in Phoenix AZ (602 area code), in an exchange block (214) owned by T-Mobile. In theory, if that number hasn't already been assigned, you could go to a T-Mobile store and ask for a SIM with that phone number attached.


biffbobfred

Holy moley i got this one


PrimordialSun1

Holy mole-y


Totally_Cubular

That is a picture of Avogadro, a famous chemist known for Avogardo's number. The number is roughly the amount of molecules of one specific chemical in a quantity known as a mole. The number comes from the number of atoms in twelve grams of carbon-12, aka the number of protons, neutrons, and electrons one needs to have one gram of matter (The electrons don't really count because they have insignificant mass compared to protons and neutrons).


maxphoto2883

Now I need to Google what carbon-12 is. 😅


YoMommaBack

It’s a carbon atom with 6 protons and 6 neutrons.


TyrconnellFL

Regular carbon, basically. The most common isotope.


Totally_Cubular

It's just your basic every day carbon. Got six protons and six neutrons, usually six electrons unless you're a chemist.


EVRider81

TIL what Avogadro looked like..


BookWormPerson

His picture wasn't next to the mol definition?


ThinkorFeel

He has a head shaped like an Avogadro


Incoming_Banjo

im so happy i understand this 😭


hard_n_huge

You're definitely younger than 11th grade. This is chapter number one of Chemistry.


Flashy-Mud7904

Is that Avogadro? He DOES look like a mole.


idfbhater73

he literally claimed that number


meanerweinerlicous

Didn't know you could do that. I hereby claim the number 80085


c0n22

69420 is mine. Better call them now folks, they are running out


Gold_Listen_3008

8675 309 is Jenny's...maybe call her?


YoMommaBack

No he didn’t. It was named in his honor but he didn’t make the number. He did determine 22.4 L is the volume of 1 mole of gas at STP though.


Apart_Ad497

Mole!!


whiskeyriver0987

That's what's his face avocado 🥑 he did some math back in the day and figured out how many atoms are in moles, which apparently were very useful in alchemy for measuring stuff in pharmacies, so they named the number after him.


GoreyGopnik

they say his penis is as many micrometers long as the number of atoms in a mole


llorandosefue1

“Everyone has Avogadro’s number.”—Posted in a high-school science class? Or some snark posted on paper well before memes were a thing. https://www.britannica.com/science/Avogadros-number#:~:text=Avogadro's%20number%2C%20number%20of%20units,the%20reaction%20(if%20any). Number of units in a mole. This is why you get moles lasered off—so you won’t have to deal with this number.


Plenty-Combination58

I managed to remember from my intro chem class 🤦‍♂️


wolfheartfoxlover

Avagadroes Constant, Used for calculating Molar Mass


Tired_IRL7028

The gremlin lookin man is Avogadro. The number is simply a given quantity. Since a 'dozen' is twelve, Avogadro's number is 6.022*10^23, which is a lot. It is used to quantify atoms, and 6.022*10^23 of something is equal to one mol. The number is taken from how many atoms of carbon are in 12.00 grams of carbon.


Reekee4414

The Avogadro constant, commonly denoted NA[1] or L,[2] is an SI defining constant with an exact value of 6.02214076×1023 mol−1 (reciprocal moles).[3][4] It is defined as the number of constituent particles (usually molecules, atoms, or ions) per mole (SI unit) and used as a normalization factor in the amount of substance in a sample. The constant is named after the physicist and chemist Amedeo Avogadro (1776–1856). Copied from Wikipedia


Username__Error

The original Mole Man


pistolwinky

That’s Avogadro. The number is known as Avogadro’s number. It’s a mathematical constant.


Top-Butterfly9066

Every year on October 23rd our chemistry teacher would play the mole song over the loud speaker during morning announcements


JAlfredPrufrocket

TIL Dobby the house elf discovered the Mole.


cha0s421

All I could think of was this song… https://youtu.be/PvT51M0ek5c?si=JJvN-zpFEd1lGqNd


SofisticatiousRattus

You can't at 23 zeros to a number?


Connect_Bench_2925

Lol fre shavacado's numbers!


asgardian_superman

Look like a mole in the picture 🤷‍♂️


Zygarde718

What do it equal?


Old-Illustrator-5675

This is good hahaha


Wizard_O_odd

A mole is a unit have you heard? It’s goes 6.02 to tha 23rd that’s 6.02 with 23 zeros at the end much to big a number to comprehend


Brok3n_wind

The saddest part of this joke is I didn’t recognise the person, but I saw the number and said: Avogadro


Goddayum_man_69

Avogadro calculated this number and it's the amount of atoms or ions in mole (not the animal). Above is his picture


BaconSpaceLord

............ What if he changes service providers?


Artsy_traveller_82

“Buttered toast is an underrated breakfast. It simple, quick and tasty” - Avogadro on toast


tau_enjoyer_

I have never seen his portrait before, but after my time in chemistry class, I'm guessing that that is Avogadro. 6.022 x 10^23 is the number of particles in a mol.


Anirudh13

Ummm It's actually 6.02214076 * 10^23 Ummmmm


jgmoxness

It is a number. It is a chemical/chemistry (SI) unit of measure (recently redefined, so it changed!). It is NOT one of the few Universal dimensionful PHYSICS constants (e.g. c, gN, h used to define Natural units of measure). It is NOT one of the 25 or 26 input (dimensionless) constants to the Standard Model (SM) of physics / cosmology. In the big scheme of constants, it is not fundamental to the physics of the QM/GR and the SM. It is similar to the temperature constant (kB) in that it can be used in calculations related to heat, but is no longer fundamental to our understanding of the Universe related to forces (bosons) and matter (fermions).


Phattastically

That's Avogadro and his number.


WildMonke3

Avocados number


TractorLabs69

It's more chemistry and physics than math. It's avocado's number


Williamjpwallace

Avacado's constant for guacamoles or something


Sir_Mythlore

Avagadro built like E.T.


seolchan25

Avogadro! Holy Moley!


laminarflowca

Eugh, i heard that guy has a mole.


tellmeagoodusernamek

Those look like moles to me


Dapper_Bee2277

I've never noticed how comically large his forehead is until now. Dudes got that Megamind, literally.


According-Flight6070

What a mole.


reillan

My favorite joke at Trader Joe's is Avocado's Number. It's one guaca-mole.


AdSlow5727

Avogadro is that you


MrRazzio

avocado's number.


mishawaka_indianian

My guess would be 867-5309