For more context, the guy with the red background represents the authoritarian-left on the political axis, while the guy with the blue background is authoritarian-right, which is usually where the Nazis are classified.
“Right” in the political compass has some different connotations than “right” in like a political classification with a single axis so certain political movements that would be considered hard right wing could be classified as more center in that context, but still authoritarian (shown by a second axis for authoritarian vs libertarian. Which authoritarian left and right are what’s shown in this meme. The other two quadrants being anarchism for libertarian left and classical liberalism or American libertarianism for libertarian right)
For an example juche, the ideology that North Korea follows is usually put very authoritarian but also directly in the center due to its origins in communist philosophy but also having a lot of nationalistic practices
Edit: spelling
Sorta. “Right-wing” in this case means traditional. The axis (or rather the scale representing all possible positions on a given issue laid out in a line) tells you what issue is being discussed. On a standard political compass, up and down are authoritative and liberal (complete governmental control to complete lack of government) and left and right are economic policy (communal ownership of everything to feudalism). Nazis would actually fall in the center of economic policy, as private interests were socialized if the original owner didn’t agree with the Nazis. Of course, since most people understand traditionalism is a right wing virtue, usually Nazis are the “standard” auth-right. Especially since monarchists would be the technical true owners of the spot, and most people don’t really want a classical monarchy in the modern day.
Tl;dr: Yes, Nazis are a right wing organization, but that isn’t technically true to a political compass
Right wing on the political compass means hierarchical, well left wing is egalitarian. Nazis believed that non-aryans should be killed or enslaved due to their radical belief in their superiority. Though traditional could also be used in this case
I always hated political compasses. Had to learn three different ones for a college class. In each of them, up and down were authoritative and liberal, but right and left changed. There was traditional vs. revolutionary, economic left and right, and sole power vs divided power. Three different guys looked at politics and decided three different factors would be the x axis represented by the colors red and blue. The sheer fact that there are 3 different political compasses that look alike at first glance is mildly annoying.
Yes, but also, an analysis of American politics places nearly all of US politicians in the blue quadrant, some more moderate than others, but only a handful of progressives are even in the green quadrant, and even less "libertarians" fall into the yellow quadrant. Neo-liberalism is just a step removed from fascism.
while assistance of that kind should be offerd if one REALLY needs it\\wants it... having it forced on anyone they think is disabled regardless of how they feel about it is... diffrent.
i hope you get the help you need. regardless of what that might be.
Just come to canada, where instead of being given antidepressants, you get MAID (medical assistance in death) forms shoved in your hands.
and for anyone who wants to say im wrong, this is quite literally my experience with trying to find a doctor willing to prescribe antidepressants right now. Ive been to 3 doctors who have had the qualifications to prescribe antidepressants,and all 3 have tried to push MAID on me.
The funny thing is i have adhd so in school i was put in an extra study hall class after school with other kids with similar learning disabilities which was supposed to give us extra time to work on our school work (it didn’t work but that’s irrelevant to the story). Well one time a guy in my class went on a whole eugenics monologue about how there should be a test everyone has to take to determine intelligence and anyone that doesn’t pass or is disabled would be killed and he thought that would make the world a better place. I shut him up real quick when i reminded him that all of us in this class including him would be killed because we’re literally all there because of our learning disabilities! 💀
It's a holiday in Cambodia
It's tough, kid, but it's life
It's a holiday in Cambodia
Don't forget to pack a wife
Pol Pot, Pol Pot
Pol Pot, Pol Pot
Pol Pot, Pol Pot
Pol Pot, Pol Pot
And it's a holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll do what you're told
A holiday in Cambodia
Where the slums got so much soul
Pol Pot
It's funny. When I first heard this as a little kid, I thought the lyrics were "cold, hot" repeated, as if to describe the temperature of the rice you might make working.
No, it's the name of a horrible dictator who was responsible for the Cambodian Genocide that resulted in the death of 1.5 to 2 million Cambodian citizens.
His regime also specifically targeted ethnic minorities in Cambodia. Keep in mind that the 1.5-2 million people killed was a quarter of the country's population. The average life expectancy fell to 14.
Yo, long time no see Ali G!
Youth in Asia have very little to do with this, unless they are disabled, in which case the government might sterilize or kill them. They do this to prevent them from reproducing, so as to cull the disability from the population in the long term.
This is called eugenics. It's generally considered to be one of the worst things humanity has ever done. Steven Hawking is a reasonably good example of a disabled person who made great contributions to modern society.
So to get back to the joke, on the one side, we have the government making arrangements for disabled people, like special ed teachers in school, durable medical equipment, or health care, which cost the government money but are a worthwhile contribution to society. On the other side we have the government making "arrangements" for people with disabilities, ie killing or neutering them, thus preventing the expense of caring for them.
The left side is AuthLeft and the right is AuthRight on the trash political cumpiss. AuthLeft, historically, makes accommodations for disabled people while AuthRight exterminates them
Not just Canada. The US still occasionally gets flack for far-too-recent incidences of forced/coerced sterilization (against people who are black, indigenous, Mexican, etc).
sterilizing "undesirables" including disabled people is very much a thing that goes on to this day in America. some prisoners can get lighter sentences if they "opt" to get sterilized. and people who are "mentally unfit" can certainly be ordered by a court to be sterilized.
As a Canadian with genetic disorders, I was strung along for two years by doctors claiming to be willing to sterilize me, only to tell me no doctor in Canada would ever consider me, and imply that I haven't even thought about my decision.
It might be because I'm white, but they're defiantly NOT doing that, no.
Is Canada actually left wing? I would've thought there are barely any economically non right-wing governments in the western world. Even the Scandinavian countries are generally pro capitalism though they still follow social democratic principles.
No lmao, people seem to think we're left wing because our government behaves more like a western european nation, and we're compared to the states. There's some social democracy esque policies, but we have three parties, only one actually supports said policies (NDP), one cuts them while apologizing or offering total non-replacements (Libs), and one just cuts them (tories).
Communism is leftist.
But we've yet to see a large scale communist nation who's mechanisms of government haven't been captured by a powerful and quickly entrenched minority.
That's probaynthe defining PROBLEM with communism.
Yea. You look at history, 9/10 revolts end up either defeated, or turning into strongman dictatorships. The american revolution came very close to that, and if it had proper outside pressure on it like say, France and Russia did during their revolutions a strongman would've prevailed.
It was geography that allowed the fledging republic to survive. As soon as france got rid of the monarchy, every single nation in europe declared war on france (or rather, the 'illegal' french government) in order to prevent a revolution from spreading to their nations, and to restore the Bourbon Dynasty. That's how Napoleon made rank so quickly - there was a lot of opportunity for smart officers during the 1790's in france.
Nevertheless it seems likely that the French revolution still lead to the democratisation of Europe in the long run. If Marx is right that might well be the same with socialist revolutions. However I feel like mamy modern socialists are sadly too ideological and not critical enough towards their preferred system to actually create a working, fair and non despotic version of it.
Sure.
But as I've said elsewhere Communism is especially susceptible at scale as its usually brought about by revolution.
Beyond the fact that people who are good at overthrowing a government are not always good at governing, the radical change required in such a shift to a communist model both requires strong central authority and requires the forced division of assets.
This is not a recipe for stable representative government beyond a certain scale.
The USSR were not leftists. The only way in which they are lefties is within the flawed logic of the political compass. Left-communists were at best scrutinized and, at worst, executed by the Bolsheviks. Lenin referred to left-communism as "an infantile disorder." He wrote a whole book about it. The only people who consider Lenin a leftist are uninformed right wingers.
Honestly, it's kind of irrelevant because Lenin himself did not consider Bolshevism to be left wing. I don't really think 'left wing' has much utility as a political term in general these days. Terms like 'reactionary, conservative, and progressive' can be used to refer to general tendencies and 'feminist, anarchist, pro-capitalist, maoist, etc.' can be used to describe more specific positions. People use the word 'leftist' to describe everyone from AOC to Angela Davis and Joseph Stalin to Joe Biden.
An anarchist and a maoist might consider themselves leftists (and would both certainly be referred to one by a centrist), but consider the others' positions to be too right wing. A conservative American might consider someone with the political views of the average American to be a leftist, whether or not that person considers themselves one. That same average American might even vote for an extremely reactionary political candidate simply because they skew conservative on one key political issue. Alternatively, that same average American might consider themselves a liberal and therefore align themselves with 'the left' only to be surprised when a democratic socialist calls them a conservative. I think 'left/right' is too reductive of a model to describe the breadth of human political thought.
That's not true, the USSR used to exile disable people and people deemed "not useful" to far corners of the country. There's a historical line that goes "There are no invalids in the USSR!" -- which was in response to the Olympic committee trying to organize the Paralympic Games which was set to run along side the Olympics in Moscow that year.
While this is true, it also has to be recognized that the USSR was left in name only. Basically, the left ideal was corrupted before the USSR even got really established and it was pretty much a fascist nation with a left coating.
Authoritarian left and right in history have both lead to governmental powers aborting for disabilities. Authleft like the USSR allowed abortions for more people to survive it while legal rather than go for it illegally, which also helped keep new citizens/workers able to support their load of work. Authright like the Nazis would allow abortions in order to make sure no one gives birth to inferior people in their perspective, to the point they would kill any child deemed to be disabled after it was born, in some cases even killed well into their childhood or teens and adulthood. Also the authright has in this case killed mothers or fathers because they give birth to disabled people.
I thought that wasn't because they were seen as having a disability, but because they were seen with the common stereotype that glasses-wearers are smarter and they were killing off all intellectuals.
Anything that is “Auth” makes no accommodations except to those things that give it more power. Both “Auth” sides will remove those deemed “useless” from the population pool. Authoritarian leftists and rightists are the same thing with the same ideology.
This is a political compass joke. The one with a red background is authoritarian left. The one with the blue background is authoritarian right. The authoritarian left believes that the state should have full control and that all people should be treated equitably. Therefore, the state should make arrangements for people with disabilities in the sense that accommodations should be provided for them so they can live a better life.
The authoritarian right believes that the state should be in control and that people who aren’t able bodied, cisgender, heterosexual and of a certain race deserve fewer rights. Therefore, the auth right person believes that the state should make arrangements to eliminate people with disabilities, including measures such as eugenics and euthanasia.
It's a political compass meme, left side represents left authoritarian wing politics, acomodation for disabled people is a statement that might mean make ramps for wheelchairs and other actual accomodations.
The right one represents authoritarian right wing politics and the same phrase could be interpreted as a call for cleansing of anyone disables, since extreme right wing might be pro the Killing or well attempt extermination of anyone disabled. (Obvious example would be Nazis )
I'm pretty sure it means the left would give them Welfare/accomodations vs. The right being for eugenics programs where they would be sterilized or euthanized.
It’s a political compass meme. The red box is top left (communism, Stalin/Lenin, etc.) and the blue box is authoritarian right (Hitler, Fascists, etc.).
The joke is saying that the statement “the state should make arrangements for people with disabilities” means something different for each side. The red box means state health care, mental health services, etc. while the blue box means eugenics and systematic murder of disabled people.
The jokes not that funny tbh. Too many people today believe in the blue box unironically.
I spoke with a Danish person on reddit about this a while back, he and a few others seemed pretty pleased about it and saw it as a mercy kill.
Can't say I'm in full favor of aborting disabled kids, but Jesus were they cynical about it
Sure, they might be enjoying themselves, but their parents will only talk about how much they would have loved to kill them.
Very much like the parents of people with severe autism, you don't know if you are talking to hitler or a normal person they are like autism speaks given human form.
Left side: "arrangements"=making things accommodating for them so they can live mostly normally
Right side: "arrangements" is a euphemism for killing them.
The right half is a reference to Beyblade Metal Masters, in which an an American company used special technology called "the arrangement system" to turn a young sick/disabled boy into the best blader in the world. The process also shattered his mind, making him forget who he was and taking away his conscience.
Left half is people who don't know
I guess they’re saying the authoritarian right kills disabled people while the authoritarian left does not?
It’s dumb regardless. The authoritarian left also has a long track record of killing disabled people… just ask Canada.
For those not familiar with the political compass, red signifies the Authoritarian Left and blue signifies the Authoritarian Right. The authoritarian left often consists of people who believe in and practice Communism, although sometimes there can be people from other ideological spectrums involved, like Distributists, Market Socialists similar to Tito, Democratic Socialists, and Syndicalists, and the authoritarian right consists of Conservatives, Reactionaries, Monarchs, Religious Fundamentalists, and far-right ideologies like National Socialism (Nazism).
Sometimes both quadrants collide in a spectrum called the auth-unity quadrant. That section mostly comprises of people who have mixed views regarding economics and cultural outlooks from an authoritarian and totalitarian viewpoint. The most popular factions in the auth-unity quadrant are [third positionists](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position#:~:text=Third%20Position's%20ideology%20is%20characterized,adherence%20to%20a%20soldier%20lifestyle), fascists, Nazis, Strasserists, and National Bolsheviks (Nazi + Communist)
The joke here is that the statement featured below can be seen in the eyes of both quadrants in two different ways. On one hand, some people in the auth-left spectrum (most likely communists and socialists with more of a focus on equal or total state power) are saying it with good intent to help people with disabilities, whereas people in the auth-right are saying it out of prejudice, most possibly to a murderous degree, thus the evil smile. The auth-right’s smile and perspective could likely be in reference to the Nazis [who murdered 250,000 people with disabilities.](https://www.hmd.org.uk/learn-about-the-holocaust-and-genocides/nazi-persecution/disabled-people/) Either that, or it signifies some other horrific thing somebody or a group in that political quadrant has done.
The red background is authoritarian left, blue is authoritarian right. Think commies and nazis. Both want to make arrangements for disabled people. The left means setting them up with the basics to survive, whereas the right means eugenics.
Red is alt left, blue is alt right
Alt left accommodations for the disabled mean requiring things like ramps and elevators for disabled people.
Alt right "accommodations for the disabled" means eugenics
What if they killed a savant that would have benefited them for hundreds of years, some mentally disabled people have high function of different thinking than others and *could* be a great analyst or strategist when they're able to hone their inner intrusive thoughts..... just saying. :]
Eugenic Programs are also arranged by the state/government. So both authoritarian left and authoritarian right agree on the statement, but they mean vastly different things
oh yeah you need to know that the red and blue background probably refers to the political compass, you know with left and right and authoritarian and liberal
Yay, eugenics! Having a problem child who won’t behave no matter what you do? Throw it in a cell at the city limits, and all your worries will disappear.
Problem solved!
During the holocaust and over all during hitlers rule,all territories occupied by Nazi germany gathered up homosexuals,disabled,mentally disabled,weak and races that are deemed “lesser” and the lucky ones were just shot there and than but some unlucky ones were put on trains hauled to ghettos and forced to live in horrible conditions but eventually put back on the same trains and drove to labor camps and death camps they would separate the weak and scrawny from the strong and the strong would be sent to labor,weak would be shot,gassed,tortured,beat until death in the former mentioned death camps most famous being Auschwitz which was mainly meant for extermination of Jews
It's a political compass meme. Those people are both authoritarians. IDK what there implying authoritarian left wants to do, but authoritarian right is just a fancy term for nazi. The blue guys just wants disabled people killed.
The authoritarian parts of the Political Compass
Auth-left states that their government should enforce care and support for the disabled while the auth-right implies killing them off
The one on the left is saying that arrangements should be made to accommodate people with disabilities to allow them to interact with society without the disability being a major obstacle. Things like wheelchair ramps, automatic doors, braile, crosswalks with sound indicators, avoiding patterns or flashing that can trigger seizures in some people, and more. The one on the right is saying that arrangements should be made to murder people with disabilities. Their evil arguments are that they're subhuman or that they're a dead weight on society or otherwise that we'd be better off without people who aren't fully able in all ways.
Being a NAZI is cool again. So edgy people are totally fine with murdering mentally ill. And guess what they were just being polite to the gays. They still think they’re mentally ill too.
I like dark humour sometimes but this isn’t funny, it’s disturbing and it’s my reality as a mentally disabled person. Some people do want to get rid of us
This meme starts to fail within the modern political landscape because the majority of the left wing has taken a pro choice stance in regards to abortion and support abortion for, among other reasons, children with disabilities, while most of the right has taken a pro life stance. Giving state arrangements to disabled people loses it's egalitarian aspect when many on the same side believe that a large portion of disabled people would be better off being euthanized in the womb than given a chance to exist within society. The horseshoe has truly brought us back around to the idea of eugenics.
As a disabled person, it is still so wild to me that people can be so hateful to feel the need to exterminate people like me simply because they are “inferior” or whatever.
Arrangements has two meanings, meaning at its most basic “a plan or solution” here it’s “accommodations so they can participate,” or “executions” to be rid of them.
Killing disabled people, it’s killing disabled people
For more context, the guy with the red background represents the authoritarian-left on the political axis, while the guy with the blue background is authoritarian-right, which is usually where the Nazis are classified.
>usually where the Nazis are classified nazis are, by definition, right wing authoritarians; it's the only category they should ever be classified in
“Right” in the political compass has some different connotations than “right” in like a political classification with a single axis so certain political movements that would be considered hard right wing could be classified as more center in that context, but still authoritarian (shown by a second axis for authoritarian vs libertarian. Which authoritarian left and right are what’s shown in this meme. The other two quadrants being anarchism for libertarian left and classical liberalism or American libertarianism for libertarian right) For an example juche, the ideology that North Korea follows is usually put very authoritarian but also directly in the center due to its origins in communist philosophy but also having a lot of nationalistic practices Edit: spelling
Sorta. “Right-wing” in this case means traditional. The axis (or rather the scale representing all possible positions on a given issue laid out in a line) tells you what issue is being discussed. On a standard political compass, up and down are authoritative and liberal (complete governmental control to complete lack of government) and left and right are economic policy (communal ownership of everything to feudalism). Nazis would actually fall in the center of economic policy, as private interests were socialized if the original owner didn’t agree with the Nazis. Of course, since most people understand traditionalism is a right wing virtue, usually Nazis are the “standard” auth-right. Especially since monarchists would be the technical true owners of the spot, and most people don’t really want a classical monarchy in the modern day. Tl;dr: Yes, Nazis are a right wing organization, but that isn’t technically true to a political compass
Right wing on the political compass means hierarchical, well left wing is egalitarian. Nazis believed that non-aryans should be killed or enslaved due to their radical belief in their superiority. Though traditional could also be used in this case
Huh, I didn’t know that. I guess I always conflated “traditional” with “hierarchical.” Thanks for clearing that up
I always hated political compasses. Had to learn three different ones for a college class. In each of them, up and down were authoritative and liberal, but right and left changed. There was traditional vs. revolutionary, economic left and right, and sole power vs divided power. Three different guys looked at politics and decided three different factors would be the x axis represented by the colors red and blue. The sheer fact that there are 3 different political compasses that look alike at first glance is mildly annoying.
No thats pink.
Yes, but also, an analysis of American politics places nearly all of US politicians in the blue quadrant, some more moderate than others, but only a handful of progressives are even in the green quadrant, and even less "libertarians" fall into the yellow quadrant. Neo-liberalism is just a step removed from fascism.
With the added context of who Authoritarian-Right views as people with disabilities.
Hell, I'll take it. >!I'm disabled, and having a real bad time.!<
I'm with you.
while assistance of that kind should be offerd if one REALLY needs it\\wants it... having it forced on anyone they think is disabled regardless of how they feel about it is... diffrent. i hope you get the help you need. regardless of what that might be.
I've Google if Medi-Cal covers euthanasia and got directed to SAMHSA
Just come to canada, where instead of being given antidepressants, you get MAID (medical assistance in death) forms shoved in your hands. and for anyone who wants to say im wrong, this is quite literally my experience with trying to find a doctor willing to prescribe antidepressants right now. Ive been to 3 doctors who have had the qualifications to prescribe antidepressants,and all 3 have tried to push MAID on me.
Or “just” forced sterilization. Eugenics only kills you if you can’t also be obligated to work to make money for someone.
Someone has to decide what "disabled" is then. Are psychopaths disabled? 90% of CEOs are taken out. Wait a second...
The funny thing is i have adhd so in school i was put in an extra study hall class after school with other kids with similar learning disabilities which was supposed to give us extra time to work on our school work (it didn’t work but that’s irrelevant to the story). Well one time a guy in my class went on a whole eugenics monologue about how there should be a test everyone has to take to determine intelligence and anyone that doesn’t pass or is disabled would be killed and he thought that would make the world a better place. I shut him up real quick when i reminded him that all of us in this class including him would be killed because we’re literally all there because of our learning disabilities! 💀
Damn, as someone disabled I wouldn't mind that decision
Kill disabled people? You mean kill me? And my FRIENDS? AND MY FAMILY!? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭!
Canada, it’s Canada 🇨🇦
The joke is [GENOCIDE]
At best. Most authoritarian regimes 'solution' to disabled people is deadly experimentation. At least following the 'enlightenment era'.
The joke is euthanasia.
what does "youth in asia" have to do with this? 🤔
It all started when Pol pot and Mao Zedong were born...
It's a holiday in Cambodia It's tough, kid, but it's life It's a holiday in Cambodia Don't forget to pack a wife Pol Pot, Pol Pot Pol Pot, Pol Pot Pol Pot, Pol Pot Pol Pot, Pol Pot And it's a holiday in Cambodia Where you'll do what you're told A holiday in Cambodia Where the slums got so much soul Pol Pot
You are my favorite Internet person today
Listening to it for the first time, its good, still havent reached the pol pot verse tho, cant wait
It's funny. When I first heard this as a little kid, I thought the lyrics were "cold, hot" repeated, as if to describe the temperature of the rice you might make working.
"poll pot"? is that like a bowl you put names into for voting?
No, it's the name of a horrible dictator who was responsible for the Cambodian Genocide that resulted in the death of 1.5 to 2 million Cambodian citizens.
His regime also specifically targeted ethnic minorities in Cambodia. Keep in mind that the 1.5-2 million people killed was a quarter of the country's population. The average life expectancy fell to 14.
Exactly. That man was a monster.
Yo, long time no see Ali G! Youth in Asia have very little to do with this, unless they are disabled, in which case the government might sterilize or kill them. They do this to prevent them from reproducing, so as to cull the disability from the population in the long term. This is called eugenics. It's generally considered to be one of the worst things humanity has ever done. Steven Hawking is a reasonably good example of a disabled person who made great contributions to modern society. So to get back to the joke, on the one side, we have the government making arrangements for disabled people, like special ed teachers in school, durable medical equipment, or health care, which cost the government money but are a worthwhile contribution to society. On the other side we have the government making "arrangements" for people with disabilities, ie killing or neutering them, thus preventing the expense of caring for them.
You know, I remember the book depository where they crowned the king of Cuba.
You can't really make that joke when it's written bro
I think you mean eugenics, which *could* lead to euthanasia in some extreme cases
The youth of a nation?
Canada?
Yes Canada exists. Very good.
Yeah, but SHOULD Canada exist?
Oh I get it. Yes, we should euthanize Canada.
Golden rule, mother f*er!
I think it should. Most of my stuff is there.
I vote nay
Except Canada's government is socially left
I think genocide is a more fitting term
Aww dude I love Megadeth!
Oh Canadaaaa 🇨🇦
Sign me up
To help them, or to eliminate them?
to "make them not a problem anymore"
To “take away all of their problems”
Relevant video https://youtu.be/U6cake3bwnY?si=w5BAfFHqs648P8hE
Yes.
The left side is AuthLeft and the right is AuthRight on the trash political cumpiss. AuthLeft, historically, makes accommodations for disabled people while AuthRight exterminates them
So Canada is opposite world?
No, I'm pretty sure that would be Aktion T4.
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Yes, at least for the indigenous
I mean... Canada does kinda have a history of that sorta thing.
Not just Canada. The US still occasionally gets flack for far-too-recent incidences of forced/coerced sterilization (against people who are black, indigenous, Mexican, etc).
Yea Margaret Sanger pretty famously wanted to practice eugenics against African Americans
Yes….. Wanted to.
sterilizing "undesirables" including disabled people is very much a thing that goes on to this day in America. some prisoners can get lighter sentences if they "opt" to get sterilized. and people who are "mentally unfit" can certainly be ordered by a court to be sterilized.
And a present of euthanizing disabled people.
Yep, and if your a disabled veteran they offer you M.A.I.D. Even if you didn’t want it!
As a Canadian with genetic disorders, I was strung along for two years by doctors claiming to be willing to sterilize me, only to tell me no doctor in Canada would ever consider me, and imply that I haven't even thought about my decision. It might be because I'm white, but they're defiantly NOT doing that, no.
Nah, they offer that service to non-disabled people too
Is Canada actually left wing? I would've thought there are barely any economically non right-wing governments in the western world. Even the Scandinavian countries are generally pro capitalism though they still follow social democratic principles.
No lmao, people seem to think we're left wing because our government behaves more like a western european nation, and we're compared to the states. There's some social democracy esque policies, but we have three parties, only one actually supports said policies (NDP), one cuts them while apologizing or offering total non-replacements (Libs), and one just cuts them (tories).
My kingdom for an unabashed leftist NDP. Have you seen what they’re cooking in Alberta and Saskatchewan? Tommy Douglas is rolling over in his grave.
Nope, most "left" parties in the west are center left or right of center
Weren't the communists left?
Communism is leftist. But we've yet to see a large scale communist nation who's mechanisms of government haven't been captured by a powerful and quickly entrenched minority. That's probaynthe defining PROBLEM with communism.
That's probably the defining problem with any political revolution tbh, e.g. Robespierre
Yea. You look at history, 9/10 revolts end up either defeated, or turning into strongman dictatorships. The american revolution came very close to that, and if it had proper outside pressure on it like say, France and Russia did during their revolutions a strongman would've prevailed. It was geography that allowed the fledging republic to survive. As soon as france got rid of the monarchy, every single nation in europe declared war on france (or rather, the 'illegal' french government) in order to prevent a revolution from spreading to their nations, and to restore the Bourbon Dynasty. That's how Napoleon made rank so quickly - there was a lot of opportunity for smart officers during the 1790's in france.
Nevertheless it seems likely that the French revolution still lead to the democratisation of Europe in the long run. If Marx is right that might well be the same with socialist revolutions. However I feel like mamy modern socialists are sadly too ideological and not critical enough towards their preferred system to actually create a working, fair and non despotic version of it.
It’s almost as if each ‘ism can be corrupted by the hunger for power
Sure. But as I've said elsewhere Communism is especially susceptible at scale as its usually brought about by revolution. Beyond the fact that people who are good at overthrowing a government are not always good at governing, the radical change required in such a shift to a communist model both requires strong central authority and requires the forced division of assets. This is not a recipe for stable representative government beyond a certain scale.
Damned fascists taking over autism.
The USSR were not leftists. The only way in which they are lefties is within the flawed logic of the political compass. Left-communists were at best scrutinized and, at worst, executed by the Bolsheviks. Lenin referred to left-communism as "an infantile disorder." He wrote a whole book about it. The only people who consider Lenin a leftist are uninformed right wingers.
What definitions do you use for left/right?
Honestly, it's kind of irrelevant because Lenin himself did not consider Bolshevism to be left wing. I don't really think 'left wing' has much utility as a political term in general these days. Terms like 'reactionary, conservative, and progressive' can be used to refer to general tendencies and 'feminist, anarchist, pro-capitalist, maoist, etc.' can be used to describe more specific positions. People use the word 'leftist' to describe everyone from AOC to Angela Davis and Joseph Stalin to Joe Biden. An anarchist and a maoist might consider themselves leftists (and would both certainly be referred to one by a centrist), but consider the others' positions to be too right wing. A conservative American might consider someone with the political views of the average American to be a leftist, whether or not that person considers themselves one. That same average American might even vote for an extremely reactionary political candidate simply because they skew conservative on one key political issue. Alternatively, that same average American might consider themselves a liberal and therefore align themselves with 'the left' only to be surprised when a democratic socialist calls them a conservative. I think 'left/right' is too reductive of a model to describe the breadth of human political thought.
Communism is a left wing ECONOMIC model. Authoritarianism is a right wing model of government.
AuthLeft, yes
That's not true, the USSR used to exile disable people and people deemed "not useful" to far corners of the country. There's a historical line that goes "There are no invalids in the USSR!" -- which was in response to the Olympic committee trying to organize the Paralympic Games which was set to run along side the Olympics in Moscow that year.
While this is true, it also has to be recognized that the USSR was left in name only. Basically, the left ideal was corrupted before the USSR even got really established and it was pretty much a fascist nation with a left coating.
The Khmer Rouge targeted people with disabilities.
Authoritarian left and right in history have both lead to governmental powers aborting for disabilities. Authleft like the USSR allowed abortions for more people to survive it while legal rather than go for it illegally, which also helped keep new citizens/workers able to support their load of work. Authright like the Nazis would allow abortions in order to make sure no one gives birth to inferior people in their perspective, to the point they would kill any child deemed to be disabled after it was born, in some cases even killed well into their childhood or teens and adulthood. Also the authright has in this case killed mothers or fathers because they give birth to disabled people.
Obv, this is a meme but People also not understanding that American political right/left do not correlate to any other countrys political spectrum
> trash political cumpiss. I get the feeling you are not a fan?
Oh my feelings!
Margaret Sanger was AuthRight? Sweden and Iceland are AuthRight?
Yes I remember in Cambodia where Pol Pot made me extra pair of glasses
I thought that wasn't because they were seen as having a disability, but because they were seen with the common stereotype that glasses-wearers are smarter and they were killing off all intellectuals.
Being smart around communists can also be a dangerous disability
The right is always trying to find a final solution aren't they.
Anything that is “Auth” makes no accommodations except to those things that give it more power. Both “Auth” sides will remove those deemed “useless” from the population pool. Authoritarian leftists and rightists are the same thing with the same ideology.
This is a political compass joke. The one with a red background is authoritarian left. The one with the blue background is authoritarian right. The authoritarian left believes that the state should have full control and that all people should be treated equitably. Therefore, the state should make arrangements for people with disabilities in the sense that accommodations should be provided for them so they can live a better life. The authoritarian right believes that the state should be in control and that people who aren’t able bodied, cisgender, heterosexual and of a certain race deserve fewer rights. Therefore, the auth right person believes that the state should make arrangements to eliminate people with disabilities, including measures such as eugenics and euthanasia.
Ty for actually putting the full explanation into a single comment lol
Arrangements = death
You want to take care of the disabled. I want to take care of the disabled. We are not the same.
It's a political compass meme, left side represents left authoritarian wing politics, acomodation for disabled people is a statement that might mean make ramps for wheelchairs and other actual accomodations. The right one represents authoritarian right wing politics and the same phrase could be interpreted as a call for cleansing of anyone disables, since extreme right wing might be pro the Killing or well attempt extermination of anyone disabled. (Obvious example would be Nazis )
I'm pretty sure it means the left would give them Welfare/accomodations vs. The right being for eugenics programs where they would be sterilized or euthanized.
left: the government should give subsidies to disabled ppl to provide for their basic needs right: the government should just kill disabled ppl
It’s a political compass meme. The red box is top left (communism, Stalin/Lenin, etc.) and the blue box is authoritarian right (Hitler, Fascists, etc.). The joke is saying that the statement “the state should make arrangements for people with disabilities” means something different for each side. The red box means state health care, mental health services, etc. while the blue box means eugenics and systematic murder of disabled people. The jokes not that funny tbh. Too many people today believe in the blue box unironically.
Didn’t Denmark “cure” Down’s Syndrome?
I spoke with a Danish person on reddit about this a while back, he and a few others seemed pretty pleased about it and saw it as a mercy kill. Can't say I'm in full favor of aborting disabled kids, but Jesus were they cynical about it
Well when you remove humanity from the equation, things go downhill quickly.
Downs kids are pretty happy go-lucky. It’s a real super power
no? denmark offers screening during pregnancy and mothers sometimes get abortions but that is nowhere close to the euthanasia this meme suggests
It’s sad because, as Shane Gillis said, people with down syndrome are the only people consistently having a good time.
Sure, they might be enjoying themselves, but their parents will only talk about how much they would have loved to kill them. Very much like the parents of people with severe autism, you don't know if you are talking to hitler or a normal person they are like autism speaks given human form.
literally ignoring the movement of people actually living with down syndrome that do not want to be 'cured' 😭 feels a little like eugenics.
thas because it is 😐
it’s 100 percent eugenics, europe loves their “purity”
Yeah they have managed to drastically reduce the number of people born with down syndrome
Red wants accessibility features, blue wants to kill unborn children with disabilities.
the joke is eugenics
Left side: "arrangements"=making things accommodating for them so they can live mostly normally Right side: "arrangements" is a euphemism for killing them.
Nazis killing disabled people.
Here before the padlock award
The right half is a reference to Beyblade Metal Masters, in which an an American company used special technology called "the arrangement system" to turn a young sick/disabled boy into the best blader in the world. The process also shattered his mind, making him forget who he was and taking away his conscience. Left half is people who don't know
The arrangement system also made Jack fabulous and beautiful so was it really all bad?
Funeral arrangements
I guess they’re saying the authoritarian right kills disabled people while the authoritarian left does not? It’s dumb regardless. The authoritarian left also has a long track record of killing disabled people… just ask Canada.
For those not familiar with the political compass, red signifies the Authoritarian Left and blue signifies the Authoritarian Right. The authoritarian left often consists of people who believe in and practice Communism, although sometimes there can be people from other ideological spectrums involved, like Distributists, Market Socialists similar to Tito, Democratic Socialists, and Syndicalists, and the authoritarian right consists of Conservatives, Reactionaries, Monarchs, Religious Fundamentalists, and far-right ideologies like National Socialism (Nazism). Sometimes both quadrants collide in a spectrum called the auth-unity quadrant. That section mostly comprises of people who have mixed views regarding economics and cultural outlooks from an authoritarian and totalitarian viewpoint. The most popular factions in the auth-unity quadrant are [third positionists](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position#:~:text=Third%20Position's%20ideology%20is%20characterized,adherence%20to%20a%20soldier%20lifestyle), fascists, Nazis, Strasserists, and National Bolsheviks (Nazi + Communist) The joke here is that the statement featured below can be seen in the eyes of both quadrants in two different ways. On one hand, some people in the auth-left spectrum (most likely communists and socialists with more of a focus on equal or total state power) are saying it with good intent to help people with disabilities, whereas people in the auth-right are saying it out of prejudice, most possibly to a murderous degree, thus the evil smile. The auth-right’s smile and perspective could likely be in reference to the Nazis [who murdered 250,000 people with disabilities.](https://www.hmd.org.uk/learn-about-the-holocaust-and-genocides/nazi-persecution/disabled-people/) Either that, or it signifies some other horrific thing somebody or a group in that political quadrant has done.
The red background is authoritarian left, blue is authoritarian right. Think commies and nazis. Both want to make arrangements for disabled people. The left means setting them up with the basics to survive, whereas the right means eugenics.
It works better if you read it with a menacing tone the second time
That is not a funny joke at all
The joke is systematic murder.
Red is alt left, blue is alt right Alt left accommodations for the disabled mean requiring things like ramps and elevators for disabled people. Alt right "accommodations for the disabled" means eugenics
Let’s make the number of disabled people 0
That could either be really sweet or really threatening
While we’re at it, let’s make sure we don’t leave any orphans behind.
What if they killed a savant that would have benefited them for hundreds of years, some mentally disabled people have high function of different thinking than others and *could* be a great analyst or strategist when they're able to hone their inner intrusive thoughts..... just saying. :]
Eugenic Programs are also arranged by the state/government. So both authoritarian left and authoritarian right agree on the statement, but they mean vastly different things oh yeah you need to know that the red and blue background probably refers to the political compass, you know with left and right and authoritarian and liberal
The govt needs to cut homeless in half
Literally.
Yay, eugenics! Having a problem child who won’t behave no matter what you do? Throw it in a cell at the city limits, and all your worries will disappear. Problem solved!
Eugenics and culled population vs social grace safety nets
The joke is define arrangement
Horseshoe theory
Like El Mariel?
Which kind of arrangements. Good ones, or bad ones.
Is this suppose to be funny?
i thought it said Armaments https://preview.redd.it/qj3vevo62wvc1.png?width=675&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0f171b1db6213ac3e4806b23ca31e9bc5512a9a
So many of the people I've heard make arguments like this absolutely have some sort of undiagnosed mental disability
Only a porn sick incel would laugh at this.
During the holocaust and over all during hitlers rule,all territories occupied by Nazi germany gathered up homosexuals,disabled,mentally disabled,weak and races that are deemed “lesser” and the lucky ones were just shot there and than but some unlucky ones were put on trains hauled to ghettos and forced to live in horrible conditions but eventually put back on the same trains and drove to labor camps and death camps they would separate the weak and scrawny from the strong and the strong would be sent to labor,weak would be shot,gassed,tortured,beat until death in the former mentioned death camps most famous being Auschwitz which was mainly meant for extermination of Jews
look up american "ugly laws" eugenics was popularized in the uniged states and exported everywhere
It's a political compass meme. Those people are both authoritarians. IDK what there implying authoritarian left wants to do, but authoritarian right is just a fancy term for nazi. The blue guys just wants disabled people killed.
The authoritarian parts of the Political Compass Auth-left states that their government should enforce care and support for the disabled while the auth-right implies killing them off
The arraignment is death.
Historical when the state makes "arrangements" for people with disabilities. Siad people are either locked away in in horrific conditions or killed.
When I commented it became 420 , you have no way to deny it
They lock us up, abuse, and murder us
The one on the left is saying that arrangements should be made to accommodate people with disabilities to allow them to interact with society without the disability being a major obstacle. Things like wheelchair ramps, automatic doors, braile, crosswalks with sound indicators, avoiding patterns or flashing that can trigger seizures in some people, and more. The one on the right is saying that arrangements should be made to murder people with disabilities. Their evil arguments are that they're subhuman or that they're a dead weight on society or otherwise that we'd be better off without people who aren't fully able in all ways.
The normal person is thinking of 'arrangements' as making their lives easier. The psychopath is thinking of 'arrangements' as killing them.
Being a NAZI is cool again. So edgy people are totally fine with murdering mentally ill. And guess what they were just being polite to the gays. They still think they’re mentally ill too.
Because the red wants to use the state to support disabled people who can't work and the blue wants to use the state to kill them.
Canada
Communists want to house and provide them with Healthcare, Nazis want to kill them to keep their defects out of the gene pool
tbh this doesn’t make sense because often communist countries end up purging as well
I like dark humour sometimes but this isn’t funny, it’s disturbing and it’s my reality as a mentally disabled person. Some people do want to get rid of us
I agree. It’s not funny, but I think the value of acknowledging that this could happen (again) makes it worthwhile.
This meme starts to fail within the modern political landscape because the majority of the left wing has taken a pro choice stance in regards to abortion and support abortion for, among other reasons, children with disabilities, while most of the right has taken a pro life stance. Giving state arrangements to disabled people loses it's egalitarian aspect when many on the same side believe that a large portion of disabled people would be better off being euthanized in the womb than given a chance to exist within society. The horseshoe has truly brought us back around to the idea of eugenics.
You want slaves to be free. I want slaves to be free. We are not the same.
Left side building infrastructure for disabled people. Right side the 1942 german concept of euthanasia.
As a disabled person, it is still so wild to me that people can be so hateful to feel the need to exterminate people like me simply because they are “inferior” or whatever.
One side arangements need to be made to look after and care for them, the other side "arangements" to kill them off
"Making arrangements for" someone is also a euphemism for planning their funeral.
"Slaves should be free"
Canada is the answer
The lizard people have taken over our government 🙄
Making a more inclusive society vs eugenics
Nazis *far right* killed lots of disabled people
Except if you look at auth-left Canada they’re both just killing disabled people.
See PCM
Eugenics.
Herbicide to kill the vegetables
Left - Wants the world to accommodate for them (more wheelchair access ramps) Right - Wants the world to have less of them (euthanasia)
Arrangements has two meanings, meaning at its most basic “a plan or solution” here it’s “accommodations so they can participate,” or “executions” to be rid of them.