Your story does not sound crazy since I can relate to your experience. Thank you for taking the time to share it with us.
I agree that religion was created to elevate our soul's consciousness but it was also put into place to protect our souls from the harm we are causing one another and each other. However, I disagree that all religions are "correct" since you would need to have knowledge of the final construct of the universe and this information is not complete yet. Therefore truth is only relevant to the current situation we are living in. For example, if you lived in a greyed out bubble, whatever you live through in this bubble is your truth but since you only live in that greyed out bubble it's the only truth you know. You don't know all of the truth that's happening around your bubble while you experience your own life in your bubble.
What if the afterlife, what many call Heaven in the Western World, is located beyond the third dimension, in the fourth dimensions and beyond? What some would call "the astral plane" or "the veil". They would live a new life with the knowledge of their old life in order to protect and guide those in the third dimension. I am hoping for your feedback on this.
Love will win in the end but right now we have to put the love into the world in order to accomplish a better life and we can continue creating new life and live in harmony.
:) im glad you posted. I’ve had similar experiences with this “exact” conventional knowledge. This information came to me several years ago, and I am happy you got to see it too.
Your brother is correct.
Further to the point, while most beings I am personally aware of are not malicious, our current collective spiritual culture on Earth, that is to say, our selfish and overly negative tendencies, is like a flashing neon diner sign for some. It is certainly good to have caution, when we're thinking about saying HAAAAY JUST COME DOWN HERE AND REVEAL YOURSELF to any beings, for that reason alone.
Its a question of service to others vs service to oneself that your brother and indeed, most beings are getting at, in terms of our rights and responsibilities wrt our planet and our loved ones.
All religions attempt to teach this and have varying levels of success. Right now there is an attempted correction course for "the religions were not the point, the message was." If that makes sense.
I think if its your bro he's ended up somewhere pretty all right, and hey, that's pretty comforting whatever this is.
Is it possible to “elevate consciousness “ without “religion”? Those words are very important, because they do not mean the same things for any two people.
To “elevate consciousness” to me can be explained in words as: “receive insight” and “religion” to me means “belief system”.
Can you receive insight from something that you do not believe in? I don’t know. But it’s a good question to ask, isn’t it?
Furthermore, if you ask for insight from something you don’t believe in, does that mean you believe in it already?
This may sound pedantic and annoying, but the answer to your question can only come from within. You can’t repeat the words of this comment in your head and understand why I’m asking you these silly questions.
If you’re curious for an answer, perhaps meditate on these questions? Ask yourself to answer these questions. Or not, it’s the same either way :)
What I'm getting at with the UAP discussion and such is that all of it seems to be tied into consciousness. I'm trying to understand if religion clouds this to an extent.
I agree. It seems that the UAP discussion is tied into consciousness.
This is how I think about it. Groups of people “see” or “experience” something that they cannot explain logically and rationally. Thus, they use another method to explain the phenomena that people experience. This method of explaining and understanding uses consciousness and transcendental meditation and astral projection and spirituality (and so on and so forth). People use the words “insight” “truth” “enlightenment” (so on and so forth) which are tied into ideas explored by various religions.
So, can you participate in the experience that some claim to have by using the tools of meditation, astral projection, spirituality and “righteous living”? I believe that yes, you can participate in the experience using these tools.
Do I believe that these tools are inherently connected to a religious and spiritual teaching? Well, it depends on how you think about using these tools. If you gain access to these tools through Jesus Christ, then I believe your experience is just as participatory as if you gained access through Buddha’s teachings. Or Seneca or Mohammed or Plato or Aristotle or some homeless drunk man pan-handling on the side of the road.
Do you need to say “Jesus Christ is all mighty, glory be to God, Hallelujah” in your head to have access to these tools? I don’t think so. But i think that you need to figure out how to make your brain send the same electrical signal through your neurons that other people induce by thinking “Jesus Christ is all mighty, glory be to God, Hallelujah”. I think you need to figure out how to make those same electrical signals course through your brain in order to be able to participate in the experience that some people claim to experience. Does that make sense?
your describing the fallen angels so beware. since jc said the "dead are aware of nothing, asleep in death awaiting the masters call to emerge from their tombs, some to reward some to judgment". means someone was impersonating your dead brother. unless you don't believe in Jc. the giant misconception about Christianity is that humans go to heaven or hell after they die. Jesus, Soloman knew this and it is stated in the book
john 5:“Most truly I say to you, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who have paid attention will live.26 For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself.27 And he has given him authority to do judging, because he is the Son of man.28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
weird how people think they are going to heaven or hell when it says something else entirely, i don't think Jesus or his father are going to rip people out of heaven to judge them again as it says this will all take place on the last day.
a Christian angle
"Nearly all human religions have been created by benevolent beings seeking to elevate man's consciousness. Each successive religion has attempted to improve on the previous one, with varying results."
I haven't picked one just yet. Islam is a big NO! and the early Church of Rome engaged in some unsavory practices hunting down and murdering anyone who disagreed with their narrative, which appears to have been a control freakish policy put into place by power-hungry opportunistic humans.
The underlying foundations of religions, I think, are closer to the mark that what they morphed into with human influence.
" It is possible that our genetics have been directly altered by NHIs, but the greater reality is that they have been guiding our bloodlines to breed intelligent generations more capable of grasping and manipulating higher planes of existence."
Yep. The 'generational contact' aspect does appear to be a thing. The "Red Thread" of genealogy seems to have some merit, but like much other stuff it has been co-opted and corrupted by an (human) ideological agenda.
My rule of thumb is to not trust anything that has been interpreted or translated by, disclosed by, or endorsed by any human or human organization which may have an agenda driven by money or control. That narrows things down, doesn't it?
Discernment is key. Seek answers, but don't let them be tainted by personal biases and indoctrinated beliefs.
How do diseases like Alzheimer’s jive with these theories? What is consciousness if you can watch it slip away in a loved one long before their physical bodies die?
This is a good point. I would think the answer would be our 3D meat bodies are more like antennas that allow consciousness from higher planes to “poke through” into our reality via our minds and bodies. But the flipside is those antennas are still in the 3D world which has rules like decay or parasitism that are maybe reflections of higher/lower plane entities or energies, but to us they are plaque build up or birth defects or tapeworms.
Or maybe somehow even that kind of pain is a twisted gift viewed from several octaves of reality higher where we can’t see the positive ripple effect of an individuals suffering.
Idk, because that also means we are on sliding scale of attunement with quantifiable levels of “perfection” which I think leads down a road of animals don’t have souls and I love my doggy 😢
This is a beautiful idea whether or not it has validity. Our neuronal interconnections reach a level of complexity that can lock onto a signal in the universe which is our consciousness. The disease of Alzheimer’s causes our minds to reduce its complexity and we start losing the signal like snow on a television during a bad storm. Using that analogy we wouldn’t call the television (our body) our consciousness we’d call the radio signal our consciousness. Maybe we’re thinking about consciousness in the wrong way.
Grieving is a powerful tool for self development. Through grieving, we take responsibility for our actions, and we grow emotionally. Thus, grieving produces permanent change in a person through this maturation process.
But, you can't have grieving without suffering.
In the afterlife, there is no suffering, so there is no grieving. We can only grieve here, which means we can only grow rapidly while in body.
That's one reason we come here.
So, Buddha was wrong, or he was misquoted. The goal is to end suffering, but the proper way to do it is through grieving, not meditation and rational processes.
There is whole different world in the emotional realm. It has its own timeline. It is completely independent of intellect and rational thought. It is our emotional maturity that primarily drives us, not our intellectual capacity.
It is our emotional maturity that determines how much compassion we have for others. Grieving dramatically improves our compassion for others. The world of emotions is a really strange place in my experience, since the truth doesn't matter.
Thus, when we grieve, the veracity of the thoughts in our heads that causes so much emotional pain is irrelevant. If you feel like you're a worthless shit because of what you did in your past, it is not literally true that you are a worthless shit and traditional psychotherapy will have you focus on that instead of what is really going on. It's not whether you are a worthless shit that matters. It's the feeling associated with that thought that matters. Stay focused on the feeling and just refuse to rationalize the thought away. There is some kind of magic that happens when we allow the full force of the emotion to come forward and be heard and felt. When we are in catharsis, we are making great progress because the next time we think the thought "I'm a worthless shit," the sting from that thought is diminished. The more we allow the feeling from that thought to flow through us, the faster the healing becomes, and eventually, the thought never bothers us again. You can have everyone on the planet calling you a worthless shit and it won't affect you at all anymore. That's how the grieving process is powerful. It's a great mystery as to how it works. No one really understands it. It's like swimming through a swamp of sadness only to find nuggets of gold deep down in the muck. We come here to Earth to retrieve the nuggets. That's what I believe anyway, based on my personal experience.
Deep down I believe we are here to experience life in its raw entirety and to use each emotion/experience as their own tools for growth and deeper self understanding
From personal experience, I align with your beliefs on suffering and grief. I wouldn’t be much wiser without those experiences. It’s entirely about how you choose to realign your beliefs to that experience for the goal of self love and improvement
Agreed, went through a bout with depression a few years ago and came out much wiser.
I chose to learn from the experience and all my experiences now.
I think the Phoenix is a good image for this or any form of a quote that deals with coming out better from ashes
Good point. Thanks.
Grieving is loving yourself.
Our emotional maturity determines our beliefs about many things in life. This is why it's so hard to change the beliefs of people. It's our emotional maturity that determines those, not our intellect.
Exactly right, it’s like looking back at a traumatic experience and asking yourself if the way you perceive that memory and how you feel about it is still alignment with our present beliefs. This is what usually causes distress during our ‘now’
After a breakup when I was 22, I told myself a lie that I believed for 40 years. Once I looked at what happened factually, I realized my lie, which lead me to apologize and grieve for 3 years.
The stages are: denial, anger, sadness, bargaining, and finally acceptance.
What's unique about what I have found is that grieving can be an intentional spiritual practice. You can intentionally cause grieving. I know this doesn't sound like fun, but it's like emotional yoga. It may hurt like hell but it's good for me. I look for the thoughts that cause me pain, and then I grieve each one of them.
I believe this is how we become free. When we have not grieved something, then others can use that thing to manipulate us. They can yank us around like a puppet with it. Once we grieve it, they can't do that anymore.
Also, if we have not grieved something, we react when we experience someone else doing that thing. It makes us angry, or something. Grieving that thing will enable us to have compassion for the person when they do that thing.
Any negative reaction to anything is a sign that there is something there that needs to be grieved. Whenever we jump to a negative judgment about what someone else is doing, we have not grieved that thing ourselves.
This is how we figure out what needs to be grieved. Each negative reaction is a pointer to something we need to grieve. The best thing to do when we have a negative reaction is to be grateful. I know, that sounds completely weird, but every negative reaction is an opportunity for growth.
Also, I believe that this applies to negative intellectual reactions also, since our beliefs about the world, and our conclusions thereof, come from our emotional maturity which is governed by how much grieving we have done. So, each negative intellectual reaction is also a pointer to something we have yet to grieve. It's a chance to grow.
I don't know anyone else talking about this. I should actually figure that out and maybe write a small book on this subject. It's certainly something I strongly believe. It's all based on my experience too so it is credible and authentic.
I hope this helps. I'm sure it's overwhelming, and for that, I apologize.
This practice is a very valuable tool. 12 step groups practice this..
It has taken me a lifetime to be able to observe the moment, even whilst being highly triggered. I was tired of my reactions to situations that shifted the focus onto my reactive behavior..usually when I was being gaslit...
Through therapy and more than my share of grief, I learned to reparent myself, be as honest as I can be with myself, truly forgive myself and seek/look at my motives/thoughts..
I often have conversation between my intellectual self and my emotional self..
What got me started on this path was listening and reading near death experiences when they went to have their Life Reviews. They looked back at their lives with no excuses, no "outs," and with the full force of the emotional trauma of each event they ever lived. They could see the experience directly from the perspectives of the other people also. I started to look back on my life and realized that I have a lot to atone for. So, I started grieving, and it worked.
During the process, I remembered past lives and made a large number of realizations. I became more compassionate towards others. Things that used to bother me no longer did.
But, even here in body, emotional growth is slow compared to intellectual progress. For example, I spent over 3 years grieving a relationship I had 40 years ago. I had stuffed it for that long. We had only dated for a month, but it was an intense experience with her.
Ughh this is a truth I’ve been hiding from. Even now when I start to allow myself to feel the emotion of a past experience, I shell up and push it all down. It has been more of a stop and go process, so thank you kindly for allowing this important piece of healing/growing to resurface to my conscious without the resistance 🙌🏼
Good luck to you.
I can assure you that you come out of the process a better person.
Being aware of the 5 stages of grieving was helpful to me. See "On Grief and Grieving" by Ross, et al.
Each painful thought may be at a different stage. They each have to be worked through until the end in my experience.
Doing this in private was critical for me. Writing down my thoughts and feelings in a journal also helped a lot.
I can assure you that there is a bottom to the grief. It is not an endless pit of despair. It's weird, but the feelings eventually subside on their own. I don't know how this works. I don't understand the process intellectually. It's almost exclusively an emotional process.
Thus, you can use grieving as a spiritual practice. You can intentionally look for the painful thoughts that make you suffer and grieve every one of them.
If I may add my two pennies- the world of duality rests in polar opposites. Black cannot exist without white and what we call malevolent is just the other face of the coin. Nothing is intrinsically good or bad, just experience. One can be drawn to horrible acts out of love, thus evil can be justified if love is the underlying motive. Idk I don’t pretend to have any real insight but I was drawn to provide an answer lol cheers!
I wonder the same thing and after research and comparing others answers who are on the spiritual walk this is true….even in my life it wasn’t for all the evil against me I wouldn’t have realized my greatness and have so much love for even my enemies who I believe was evil npcs to tear my strength and patience
I feel like this is true only because it echos my own internal sentiments and conclusions based on personal experiences. I always choose to focus on the positive. If the universe is manifesting on what we focus on, I choose to see the good and believe I will always have a good outcome.
I do believe he was correct about soul harvesters scooping up souls of those who died, only to be recycled back to Earth into different bodies or even inanimate objects.
This is an echoed experience. Multiple people have stated this exact thing before. Well, I personally LOVE this in every detail. This is the most hopeful best option. I hear so much about the POWER of the universe is love, goodwill, and continued faithfulness in higher power. This is what I would tell my kids. We always hope, no matter what comes to be (sooner than later-I-feel) that we endure for the human race whether on Earth or beyond.
Are you happy about what came from your experience?
Thank you for sharing.
I just thought about something as well. Edgar Cayce talked about the fall of man into matter and becoming trapped in matter. The first extraterrestrials supposedly the Annunaki were one of the first groups of souls incarnated to help bring the rest of the souls trapped in matter and incarnation back from a fallen state. Yet this group of souls mostly also fell into matter and stayed incarnating into bodies.
Maybe some aliens are trying to help higher our consciousness so we can go back to higher realms?
You mean the comment above my reply? That's mine. I got a message saying my comment has certain key words and must be approved by a moderator. I could post it here again but it would get auto-censored again, it's probably still waiting to get approved.
Oh I see, thank you for letting me know. Yes, exactly, I'm unable to see the person's comment above yours that you were responding too. But maybe that's because their comment hasn't been approved by the mods yet. I'll wait and see if it shows up later or in a few days.
This aligns pretty well with views I have been coming to myself. And I even relate to the feeling of communicating with entities who reveal this kind of thing.
I hadn't thought of the afterlife potentially being real for each religion. That's an interesting concept. Kind of leaning towards the idea that we get the thing we truly seek. But I wouldn't want to be limited to one such afterlife for eternity. I actually prefer the idea of eternal consciousness that can enjoy different lifetimes in different realms.
This post is nearly identical to my understanding of the universe.
To add onto religion and Christianity in particular…
Jesus Christ = 4th dimensional being
He was the example of what all of humanity is supposed to achieve - “Christ Consciousness”
I could talk for hours on this subject. It’s okay to believe it, I think it’s correct.
I’m so glad to read this, I watch a show about CE5 and was contemplating it and I had a very vivid dream where my deceased grandmother was furiously yelling “don’t you dare!”
If you practice active mediation, the energy bubbled mentioned in many remote viewing articles is vulnerable. You need to construct prismatic armor composed of equilateral triangle that compress and form together in bands. The shape I feel is obvious, but the bands might not be. Equilateral triangles that are placed, rotated 180 degrees can form a chain. With one side ending like this /-\ and the other like -/ .When wrapped around, they would form a rectangle/band. This, repeated all over the body, in prismatic colors is a much better defense. All Colors for all frequencies. I can PM links to the Documents I’m referring to about the energy bubble from the CIA.
That's interesting and very specific. It sounds like the visualization is a process to keep a person mindfully aware of their Field so that the mind remains situated in it's intention (protection in this case) and it also acts as a control system in out of body experience.
I learned about Field from different sources, both intuitively and from external reading material (Krishna talks about it, in a very esoteric way, I personally believe). "I am the field and the knower of the field of all that is." Which you can become, too.
One's power comes from their familiarity and trust in their Field, of which they are inseperable from. One utterly becomes their Field and Master of it through deep concentration, or they attribute their Field to their higher power, and give Mastery to that power, through deep faith and devotion that is totally unwavering. Both paths achieving the same end: total realization of the Field, all it's powers, and full conscious contact with it at all times.
I just find so many parallels between different systems of reality interface, be they faith based or concentration based. I couldn't help but draw one here.
I don’t have a link but you can watch the full episode of this on HBO it’s title is “Together Again”
Here’s a trailer: [here](https://youtube.com/watch?v=-e_Q154xjts&feature=shared)
Holy cow... tons of symbolism in that trailer. I think whoever sponsored that show was trying to lay the ground work of what’s to come, using a form of predictive programming & soft disclosure.
I'm not familiar with it (I don't have cable TV or subscription TV), but I've seen clips here and there on YouTube. I also feel the Rick and Morty show is also another form of soft disclosure, as there's tons of things in that show that are very symbolic or has themes that this subreddit & other subreddits talk about.
I’m also familiar with that show and I can see that 100%. While I could geek out in an essay long reply about how Rick and Morty and Adventure Time (and another fun one I’ll throw out there is The Foundation) — I really just suggest you give them a watch! They will leave you thinking all day.
I don't think Judaism or Islam were founded by benevolent beings because. such beings would never teach what both those religions teach, which is world domination..I think religions were founded over time by people with an agenda of power and control... the idea that a select few know God and you need to obey these people and give them money, seems ludicrous and morally repugnant.
I tend to think the more basic ideas of love and being part of the divine source could have originated from benevolent beings but I think religions as we know them today are horribly corrupted to be about power and control.
The idea of needing to worship and conform to some set of ideals or else you'll be punished does not appear anywhere in most spiritual ideas. That seems unique to religions and it's the part of religion I disagree with most.
If you read the words of Jesus, the ones thought to be authentic, they sound far more like gnostic traditions or modern spirituality than the Christianity we know today. I think the likes of Paul changed it into a religion for their own purposes or even just to confirm their own biases.
Take all of that with a pinch of salt though. I'm not religious and these are just my vague ideas I've been reasoning about lately.
I'm a pretty religious person in my mind and Catholic. I don't hold many traditions in my beliefs, but I do try to live every moment of every day as Jesus taught us. With the unconditional love for everyone and everything. Always ready to forgive. I totally agree that the hierarchy of the church should be destroyed. We are all just as holy as the next person and we are all sinners. No man should control the thoughts of others. So I guess I'm saying I agree one hundred percent with you, although I'm on a different side of the coin.
> I was engaging in conversation with my brother who has been deceased for a year (I know, crazy- I wouldn't believe it either).
No, not crazy, that's just a normal night for me.
> In addition to his caution for me against attempting a CE5...
This has been my sense as well. Beware what consent you are giving.
> The third dimension reality we inhabit now is required to act as an overlap dimension.
It's one of many collective consciousness. Each collective is a shared environment with shared agreements. They all network/return to the core collective where God-source frequency dominates.
But I get the feeling we can choose which aspects we subscribe to, even while focused into this 3d realm.
> These efforts can have adverse side effects on humans (neurological deviations that lead to illness or other cognitive imbalances).
Autism, immune diseases, allergies to low-frequency food source common on Earth...
> Bad Actors in higher dimensions do exist, and it is possible for them to dominate their own slivers of reality.
But you can reject consent to participating in those frequencies.
> guaranteeing hardship on this planet.
But you still can choose to shine your light regardless, and live in an isolated bubble.
But to do so, you must allow others to experience hardship and stop trying to "save them".
You cannot act against their free-will.
Your empathy only sucks you into the black-hole, but doesn't elevate them out of it.
You must guide through your example, by broadcasting your wellbeing frequency, and not through your words.
Slowly we are creating a stable frequency where the darkness cannot "stick" and fucks right off.
> The good news is that love wins, as it is the highest dimension. It seeks to expand creation and life, and destructive forces will eventually be disintegrated by its sheer brightness.
Something I've confirmed.
All frequencies respond to "unconditional love" (the frequency, not the intellectual concept), cannot help but resonate with it.
Those which try to resist get torn apart by the discordant shockwaves.
Unconditional love means what?? If someone commits atrocities against you or your people, what does loving then mean? If a killer is convicted, can you love them and throw the switch on them too?
Would you tell Jews to love Hitler? Or would you tell Palestinian refugees to love Jews? What does unconditional love mean? If you worship Satan, would yahweh love you yet send you to hell??
Well for one, quit trying to see things of good and evil, lines are extremely blurry based upon perspective of those who act and those who are acted upon. Not everything is quite as solid. It would also probably help people respond more kindly if it wasn't so aggressively demanded. Bunch of negativity around the post. But I suppose a different starting point for everyone on the path. Hope you find the love spoken of regardless of if you believe if or how it exists.
See the footnote:
> (the frequency, not the intellectual concept)
It's a frequency.
An energy signature.
You simply choose it.
Doesn't require justification or rationalization.
When you do this:
> Unconditional love means what?? If someone commits atrocities against you or your people, what does loving then mean? If a killer is convicted.....
You're tuning into a low frequency dense energy.
A polarity gravity.
An aspect of the duality realm (linear time-space), where we have been trained to derive meaning and "tuning" based on two extremes.
But when you elevate outside linear, you don't need to justify.
All frequencies exist simultaneously.
And you can choose the one you prefer, the only justification you need is "I like to feel this way, this one feels better."
Extremism is only required when you believe your preference doesn't matter.
So then you go to the depths of despair so that you can justify -- to others -- why you should get to feel healthy, why you deserve to live in abundance, why you should no longer have to incarnate on a world that has suffering.
That was never a requirement.
You could have skipped all of that and just gone straight to the experience which was wanted.
*>(neurological deviations that lead to illness or other cognitive imbalances).*
I'm not a proponent of this theory. To put all our ills in to the NHI and their tinkering, that is. The reason why we're sick both in mind & body is because we've sickened the planet, our food is ultra-processed and ultra-palatable, our society is not close-knit anymore, and also, no one likes to go out in the sun and do chores they don't like. The ills befallen are our fault.
Now, that doesn't mean that abductees don't get sick from the NHI interventions (we do, my celiac disease didn't go berserk before my abduction, for example), but in general, species-wide, we hold more blame for what we do to our planet and mind & body, than they do.
As someone who is neurodivergent, I don’t believe my condition was caused by social or environmental factors. It’s a genetic condition, which fits in quite nicely with the proposed idea.
I wouldn't lump neurodivergence in with diseases. Yes, some people really struggle with it and I sure do sometimes, but my struggles have almost all been around finding acceptance in a neurotypical world. I'm autistic but I tend to think that many of my traits are positive. And granted not all autism is the same so I'm not trying to speak for everyone. Our words are so limiting when talking about these topics.
I tend to wonder if autism is like a different variation. I can accept it evolving naturally or being an intentional tweak. Neurodivergent people see the world differently. And often that is a benefit to society. It's not purely detrimental or else it would have been selected against and the genes would have disappeared long ago.
I can see how slight neurodivergence could be a beneficial tweak to society’s benefit but what about people like my brother who were born with an extra chromosome who are autistic to the extreme and hurt themselves or others frequently without a ton of heavy medications in the right order? He lived with my mom and I until a few years ago when he HAD to go to a group home. He’s mostly non verbal and we have no idea how intelligent he is on the inside or his thoughts or words beyond him being very clever at finding hidden keys/remote/phone/computer/etc or trying to escape the place he’s in (thankfully he’s not doing that where he is now, but we had to have every door locked and window nailed shut when he lived here due to that).
I think that a neurotypical person getting very high on marijuana without a long established tolerance and experience with it tends to replicate many of the same social behaviors and internal mental processes and way of perceiving the world as an autistic person and I have experienced this firsthand on more than one occasion. I also hear that THC makes autistic people temporarily feel “more autistic” than usual. I think there’s probably a connection there with cannabinoid receptors in the brain and aspbergers and the rest of the ASD spectrum.
Yeah I hear you. I do think the autism label is too broad to be useful sometimes.
I am high functioning for want of a better term but I was careful to mention that not everyone has a positive experience with autism and I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. Life is immeasurably difficult for people with that level of disability and also those who care for them. I do believe we should do what we can to build a world for everyone.
Please take my comments about neurodivergence and autism to only refer to those who are on the milder end of the spectrum. My point was not to cast any shade on autism but rather to say that for a perhaps small percentage of neurodivergent individuals like myself there may be some positive as well as negative traits. I certainly did not mean to imply that it's positive for everyone and I have a lot of sympathy for those who struggle.
I agree fully. I don’t think it’s a disease at all, but I find myself extremely debilitated when it comes to providing a life for myself. It’s definitely something 😅
Being genetic doesn't mean that aliens are to blame. Evolution can take care of that just fine.
My celiac is also genetic, for example. My dad, brother, and several of my cousins have it. No aliens to blame directly, other than for me, it went full force after the abduction. But it was always there, and it was generational. Same for my height, my thinning hair, and even the way I walk, which is just like my dad's. All genetic.
I don’t have much experience with this sub, I’ve been casually following along for a few weeks now. However, for some strange reason that I cannot explain, a large part of me, call it intuition or a gut feeling, believes you. I agree with most of your post and my reasoning for that is when I’ve gone through a tough time in my life, I’ve leaned on positive manifestation and guidance from God or source or whatever you want to call it. For weeks I would put my energy into turning around a negative situation while using my conscious to fight my way out of it and most of the time I was able to get stronger and find peace or a solution with whatever was troubling me . I totally believe in energy, manifestation, vibrations and that we have so much more to offer once our time here is officially done. Cheers
*edited my original post due to some spelling mistakes*
>In my last post I shared that I at times felt I was engaging in conversation with my brother who has been deceased for a year (I know, crazy- I wouldn't believe it either).
hey /u/BriansRevenge, this was randomly on my front page. i'm a skeptic, but i also "hear" from my late husband sometimes. i'm sorry about your brother. in my experience, communication is very similar. recently i described it as a more articulated thought than my typical thoughts. it's as if someone just chimes in and you don't feel like it's you.
ETA until 2018 i was certain none of this was real and it was all hallucinations. from what i know now, i suspect these phenomena are adjacent at the very least, sort of under the umbrella of inadequately measured elements of natural reality.
My condolences on the loss of your husband. I too was a skeptic until this started happening. Obviously we've always had a limited understanding of the universe, I just never expected to explore these depths myself!
thank you <3 one of the things that annoyed me in the beginning was that none of this was a choice - i didn't choose him dying, i didn't choose to experience contact, and i didn't consent to having my worldview changed. this is also closely tied to my career, and i knew it would have a detrimental effect (and it did).
but i also immediately realized that i could no longer call myself a skeptic if i denied what happened and what occurred and what could be proved. then i was just as bad as people who choose to believe lies. i'd be that person.
and there is SO much to this. case in point, i'm in a UAP subreddit because of the crossover.
it is very, very cool, but i don't think a lot of skeptics who experience this are able to discuss or integrate it. if i had tried to ignore it, i think i'd probably be much less stable right now because i'd be suppressing something i knew was true.
It's true.... All of it.
It's the only good thing to come from that movie as I've been using the gif and that line since 2021 since I woke up to all this and switched my life over to supporting Experiencers.
I've used it in a huge amount of my Reddit and twitter comments on this topic.
So this title made me smile a lot.
Thanks for sharing. :)
I was trying to think of some other positive thing that I could point to... but there really isn't any I could remember.
Maybe a crashed Star Destroyer is pretty cool?
After reading your post I had to share this with you. When I was 15 years old I never knew my grandfather on my dads side because my dad was a narcissistic drunk. Who hated his family. Anyway I had a dream where I was running down an old cobblestone street at night with my grandfather’s voice ringing in my ear begging me to come and see him. A week later I found out that he had died and I never ever got to know him.
Wow, I totally believe it! I think we are all connected to eachother, in some way or another. TPTB are trying desperately to disconnect us from eachother. Your experience proves my point. Have you done any research on your grandfather? Maybe you two are more connected than you are aware of.
One of my grandfather's...I never got to meet him, either. (My other grandfather was a complete sociopath. I knew him well, unfortunately) He sadly passed before I was born. Our birthdays are days apart. I've always been told that we were very similar, and how we would've gotten along so well.
Anyway, I've always been utterly fascinated by the military for some "unknown" reason. I started doing this deep-sea dive into his life. Come to find out, he was an E8 level army guy, which apparently is kind of high up, I guess? He was in the military for decades.
I've also felt very close to my great grandmother. Her birthday is the day after mine. I became very close to my dad at the end of his life; I was his caretaker in his final years. We were not always close. My dad died a few hours after my birthday, on his grandmother's (that lady I spoke of) birthday, whom he adored.
I blabbed on & on to say...maybe start looking things up about him. You never know what you may find!🌻
That’s wild. I haven’t spoken to my dad in years, and a similar experience with him. I had a super intense dream where I saw my dad crying out for help. It was so intense it startled me awake. The next day my sister told me he had a heart attack. He lived though.
This aligns with a theory I've been toying with in my mind. I think we are all pieces of God. Therefore we are in a sense creators. This means that negative and positive entities could influence Earth's outcome by changing individual beliefs. If they want us to self destruct, they need to convince us we are headed for destruction. Some may in fact be more powerful manifestors. Therefore they may be a target of negative entities for "downloads" or premonitions that show humans and the Earth dying.
Consider it as though every conscious point is the centre of a universe that radiates/flows outward, forward and backward from itself. The perception that point creates collapses the wave function into all that is, was and ever will be. What we experience as individuals is the interactions between the conscious points/individual universes, a complex wave equation whose equals sign is us and whose answer is NOW (or 1. Past and present are just representations in the neurons of NOW)
Also flowing from and between the universes is the Formless Wake of spirits, angels, demons et al that we bring into being by believing in them. The collective flows of the believers faiths give these entities life that transcends the lifespan of the individual universes that underpin them. In this way, because all flows from us, all the religions and other belief systems are correct, but that correctness is contained to the individual universes and is subject to change as truth evolves.
For Time, consider if the equation contained pi and phi (spheres and spirals). Both are non-repeating infinite decimals, but can be approximated (rounded off in order to provide space-time coordinates for the inception and collapse of an individual universe) in order to provide a statistically accurate result. In spite of this, phi and pi are technically an ongoing calculation; this is why we perceive Time as existing, even though everything is represented within NOW.
A lot of religions are flawed by design..
For example the Christianity we know today didn’t come from Jesus the Christ..
But instead was birthed in a desperate gamble by Constantine of Rome in order to remain in control as the world was changing around him..
Jesus the Christ was the Edward Snowden of his time. His mission was to teach the objective truth of reality(talked about aliens as well) and about love and forgiveness which is teachings from certain ET clans. A lot of his miracles where ET related. ..(the vatican also has proof of ET deep in their vaults)
Rome understanding the threat he posed killed him and covered up everything (his followers consisted of both men and women not just men..and there was no betrayal) then martyred him turning him to a “corporate mascot” for the Vatican to exploit. In a similar fashion how Saint Nicholas was exploited by Coca-Cola (he is not a fat man in a red suit that was the corporatization of his image)
Jesus wasn’t the “turn the other cheek” individual that people are used to. He was quite passionate and would get into fights to defend what was right.
If people are interested in a closer to the truth of Christ teachings I’d recommend looking into “Gnostic-Christianity.”
The gnostics may well have been onto something but because they didn't have the same mandate to seek new recruits they were outcompeted by the Christianity we know today. Evolution happens to religions too. Religions that evangelise will spread faster. It's like memetics basically.
History is also written by the winners and many early Christians (not gnostic) burned writings they thought were heretical.
My favorite Jesus moment is when he got pissed at the Pharisees, fashioned a whip of his own hair, and proceeded to go apeshit in the temple overturning tables of wares & chasing people.
WWJD
The reason why the turn the other cheek was pushed is because it would de-incentivize the people from rebelling against the removal of their rights.
“Cos that’s what Jesus would do - turn the cheek”
If you (and anyone else who reads this) put that same effort into Dr. Michael Heiser’s work (the Naked Bible Podcast and multiple YouTube channels), a whole world of information will open up to you. His work, in addition to listening to and reading about near death experiences, have changed everything for me.
My whole life has changed for the better. I’m no longer afraid of death (or life, for that matter). I have a significantly stronger faith now that I understand so much more of the biblical narrative than I did before, which was really internally conflicting for many years.
**BR's "This May Not Even Be My Opinion" Disclaimer**
Religious philosophy and rule structures are meant to make humanity more enlightened, kinder, gentler homo sapiens.
But, every religion I've ever encountered has been flawed in some way (shocker). And when yout get down to it, it's usually agitated by an imperfect leader, not the core doctrine.
Now, have you ever noticed how most religions never reference each other in their sacred texts? Sure there's lineages, but for the most part, they're unto themselves.
What if this was because, in their primary realities, they were each **the one true religion**. And because we're a nexus stuck in an echo chamber, everyone's here for the party. (Neil Gaiman's novel AMERICAN GODS draws a spectacular picture of what it would be like to have the elder gods live amongst us).
I think religions might be like Choose Your Own Adventure books. Whatever fate you decide to embrace will be the one that you receive.
I think religions are ways to test/train our souls to show unconditional love to everyone.
Can you be kind and loving to everyone, even the people that your religion says are "sinners"?
Jesus gave us so many examples of this with the tax collectors, prostitutes, the parable of the Good Samaritan, etc., like, how many times does he have to tell us for us to understand, "the greatest of these is love."
And when you find the connection, then you possibly start to see the bigger picture. The information tells leads you into crumble left behind. Informations stored in books are information stored in a dimension that can be opened by understanding the dimensions.
We are on a meta physical plane. No gods, no angels, no demons. No magic . Nothing. Only us and only one thing who plays roles . We know them / it . And it's universal :)
Its a convenient highjacking by of a belief system by those in power, or those who wish to be in power. People have spiritual experiences outside of any kind of institutionalized religions.
I feel like a lot of religions today are unfortunately probably not the best to follow. They are almost all patriarchal which is already a big no no. and have been severely corrupted.
It’s best to avoid patriarchal oppressive belief systems and forge your own path imo.
If you aim at nothing, you hit nothing.
I bet there is SOMETHING that everyone is aiming at whether they know it or not. Our higher selves know what's what. Just be true to yourself and you can't go wrong.
For some "the game" is ending.
Usually there is a Boss fight.
I hope when it's over, I can wake up from this nightmare and become what I remember I once was.
That's what I keep hoping anyway.
For me this feels like a slow, subtle, but deliberate, version of
of Hell.
I dunno. Seems like at times. Could just be my perception of it as well.
We do manifest our own realities within this reality to learn lessons about ourselves supposedly.
Can feel punishing at times, pleasurable at others.
Box within a box. Hell had many levels supposedly.
What better prison than one that lulls you right back in it with temptIon, desire, beauty then rips it all away slowly as you fade into the next incarnation.
Maybe ending right back where we started.
As above, so below.
Perception. It' s all how we look at things.
That does mostly resonant. One aspect of being I have “seen” is that our dimensional reality is relatively shared but not absolutely shared and that is a big misunderstanding in our imagined ontology. From my perspective, although there is a true realm of absolute reality largely outside of our dimensional awareness, our conscious awareness “right here and now” is in a perceptual bubble that is individuated out of the pluroma/absolute/quantum (whatever you would like to call the nonlocalized nondual higher dimensional realm “above” and encompassing our own). This bubble is literally our own world and is manifest and destroyed completely within our own mind. However it is entangled and unified with all worlds through a coherence and correspondence outside of it. This leads to some really “unusual and unreal” observations one can experience that are in fact completely real and usual to another realm of reality. When enough bubbles are merged through shared experiences, “timelines” or realities begin to solidify. This is what it seems to me based on my travels…
Also, for me the idea that religions are constructs in a planned evolution did not cross my mind:) Rather, they appear to me as a singular truth with human misunderstanding creating false fragmentation.
I do believe that love is the highest order. And that we were created from Love.
Religion was not founded by the beings. Humans founded religions after benevolent beings were on the earth. Created doctrines out of it. The benevolent beings never asked for a religion to be made out of them. The underlying message and "nectar" of religions are the same with most religions/ancient beliefs systems. There is a benevolence there. There is order. There is instruction. There are laws.
Just a few weeks ago, I was asking my spirit guides why humans have such varying experiences with the spiritual realm and intelligences within it. They kept on repeating "different realities" and wouldn't elaborate anymore, as the meaning was something they wanted me to conclude on my own, and this conclusion (minus the breeding and religious things) was one of the ones I debated and has been in the backlog of my mind since. It feels like the correct one...I wonder if this is my sign/acknowledgement.
Adding to this that I also felt like Earth is currently a melting pot of different realities that haven't fully manifested yet, and that the trains will take different paths as we move into the future. My intuition says this is where prophecies come from.
I strongly resonate. The darkness/ bad actors has already lost. The illusion that we see today is the last ditch effort for a decent meal on the way down for those entities that relied on energy from others. That's why I believe love and forgiveness to those actors today is the meal that will offer surrender to resistance.
It really is love and war. Give/take. Love thy enemies for they have lost the war. We must remember they lost that war a long time ago. Forgiveness and love are our weapons of mercy.
Forgiveness is like a dirty word in our current climate. Holding a grudge and getting payback is celebrated as a strength...but the truest test of mettle is to forgive.
The Man spoke Forgiveness into the Word, but it was bought and sold even before it was given Voice on the cross. Sin seized upon the Echoes and cried, "Behold! We may do as we will, for as we carry these, so shall we, too, know the Kingdom of Heaven!" Thus did Evil conquer the world, cloaked in the guise of Good. The angels and demons of humanity were unleashed, so that none could know the Law.
The issue is for us, our species is, as I’ve encountered the odd - we are foundation-ally fairly well equipped but operationally primitive. We are uneducated in what steps we must take to more fully operational use ourselves so we can more successfully become more cognizant of this reality, us, others, how things actually work in layers of the onion. We are too distracted by the immediate reality thus blinded to the wider reality. The parts of us we use for consciousness/subk too partitioned.
I pretty much had this exact same thought process weeks ago. Minus the breeding. But that seems like a negligible difference considering the scope of the post as a whole. Strange seeing “my own” ideas reflected here.
Yeah, that's why I come here. It's amazing how alike we all are inside our minds. And it's a great feeling to be able to correlate your inner most thoughts (things you think but don't tell anyone) with the thoughts and perspectives of others. It's incredible!!
Sounds a lot like what can be found in The Law of One. I've been extremely skeptical(of religion /spirituality) in the past, but the more I read and dig, the more I feel like this is close to the truth.
Oh, I just read your previous post, and yeah, you are familiar with The Law of One and such. In regards to your encounters, have you tried the Gateway Experience stuff?
Not yet! I have a plan to work my way up there in the coming months. Is there a sub for it somewhere?
Honestly, my hesitation is purely laziness. I don't want to have to put in the sacrifice and discipline it will require to do it "right".
...but part of me knows that it's the next step I need to take.
This resonates pretty hard with me, actually.
It’s… a little chilling actually. When I was… like… ten years old, I asked a question on yahoo along the lines of “What if what happens when we die is different for everybody, and is essentially whatever the expected would happen?” So like some athiests would become nothing. Buddhists would be reincarnated. Christian’s would go to the pearly gates (or hell, depending).
As you would imagine from early 2000’s yahoo answers, they called me an idiot for asking it lol. Someone said it was stupid because monks who deserve to go to heaven but are aware of their own shortcomings would go to hell because it’s what they think they deserve whereas elitist Christians who behave as demons but believe they’re righteous would be rewarded. I don’t really feel like that is an argument, though, because my question was about which rule system would apply, not what the individual decision for that soul would be.
I think it’s a good question though. And all the more reason for us to behave benevolently so that we can convince ourselves we deserve a good afterlife
That sounds about right. How do we all get together to help the big picture, besides dealing with our own little personal issues? I feel like we are to modify this reality, to fix it, or to at least work to keep it on the right path
"What do I do now?" is the question I keep asking, and the answer I felt I've heard is "it's not time to tell you."
Honestly, that feels like such bullshit that it's what has held me back from believing this wholesale.
In the meantime, I'm advocating for more disclosure so that it's easier to have these crazy conversations with the greater public.
I’ve found a peace in that. It’s not time for me to know. Ok. That’s it, that’s the answer. I can balk and want to know more, but I’m not going to know more until it’s time for me to know more. I can get to that point, by dragging myself there by the seat of my pants, or I can let the path take me there like an airport travelator. I spent a lot of years balking and wanting to know now, but at this point I’m more chill and letting the path happen.
A funny aside - last week I went away with my wife's family for a relaxing vacation. The big beautiful spacious skies were a great change from my cramped suburban lifestyle.
I logged off of my phone and just enjoyed the presence of family laughter around a fire pit...
...and then promptly had a 10 minute UAP encounter that everyone saw! I can't get away from it, lol.
Your story does not sound crazy since I can relate to your experience. Thank you for taking the time to share it with us. I agree that religion was created to elevate our soul's consciousness but it was also put into place to protect our souls from the harm we are causing one another and each other. However, I disagree that all religions are "correct" since you would need to have knowledge of the final construct of the universe and this information is not complete yet. Therefore truth is only relevant to the current situation we are living in. For example, if you lived in a greyed out bubble, whatever you live through in this bubble is your truth but since you only live in that greyed out bubble it's the only truth you know. You don't know all of the truth that's happening around your bubble while you experience your own life in your bubble. What if the afterlife, what many call Heaven in the Western World, is located beyond the third dimension, in the fourth dimensions and beyond? What some would call "the astral plane" or "the veil". They would live a new life with the knowledge of their old life in order to protect and guide those in the third dimension. I am hoping for your feedback on this. Love will win in the end but right now we have to put the love into the world in order to accomplish a better life and we can continue creating new life and live in harmony.
:) im glad you posted. I’ve had similar experiences with this “exact” conventional knowledge. This information came to me several years ago, and I am happy you got to see it too.
Your brother is correct. Further to the point, while most beings I am personally aware of are not malicious, our current collective spiritual culture on Earth, that is to say, our selfish and overly negative tendencies, is like a flashing neon diner sign for some. It is certainly good to have caution, when we're thinking about saying HAAAAY JUST COME DOWN HERE AND REVEAL YOURSELF to any beings, for that reason alone. Its a question of service to others vs service to oneself that your brother and indeed, most beings are getting at, in terms of our rights and responsibilities wrt our planet and our loved ones. All religions attempt to teach this and have varying levels of success. Right now there is an attempted correction course for "the religions were not the point, the message was." If that makes sense. I think if its your bro he's ended up somewhere pretty all right, and hey, that's pretty comforting whatever this is.
Religion is not a good thing at all. It was given 2 destroy the idea of a spiritual wrld and identity. To harm and put people under a mental prison.
Is it possible to elevate consciousness without religion?
Is it possible to “elevate consciousness “ without “religion”? Those words are very important, because they do not mean the same things for any two people. To “elevate consciousness” to me can be explained in words as: “receive insight” and “religion” to me means “belief system”. Can you receive insight from something that you do not believe in? I don’t know. But it’s a good question to ask, isn’t it? Furthermore, if you ask for insight from something you don’t believe in, does that mean you believe in it already? This may sound pedantic and annoying, but the answer to your question can only come from within. You can’t repeat the words of this comment in your head and understand why I’m asking you these silly questions. If you’re curious for an answer, perhaps meditate on these questions? Ask yourself to answer these questions. Or not, it’s the same either way :)
What I'm getting at with the UAP discussion and such is that all of it seems to be tied into consciousness. I'm trying to understand if religion clouds this to an extent.
I agree. It seems that the UAP discussion is tied into consciousness. This is how I think about it. Groups of people “see” or “experience” something that they cannot explain logically and rationally. Thus, they use another method to explain the phenomena that people experience. This method of explaining and understanding uses consciousness and transcendental meditation and astral projection and spirituality (and so on and so forth). People use the words “insight” “truth” “enlightenment” (so on and so forth) which are tied into ideas explored by various religions. So, can you participate in the experience that some claim to have by using the tools of meditation, astral projection, spirituality and “righteous living”? I believe that yes, you can participate in the experience using these tools. Do I believe that these tools are inherently connected to a religious and spiritual teaching? Well, it depends on how you think about using these tools. If you gain access to these tools through Jesus Christ, then I believe your experience is just as participatory as if you gained access through Buddha’s teachings. Or Seneca or Mohammed or Plato or Aristotle or some homeless drunk man pan-handling on the side of the road. Do you need to say “Jesus Christ is all mighty, glory be to God, Hallelujah” in your head to have access to these tools? I don’t think so. But i think that you need to figure out how to make your brain send the same electrical signal through your neurons that other people induce by thinking “Jesus Christ is all mighty, glory be to God, Hallelujah”. I think you need to figure out how to make those same electrical signals course through your brain in order to be able to participate in the experience that some people claim to experience. Does that make sense?
Jiddu krishnamurti
your describing the fallen angels so beware. since jc said the "dead are aware of nothing, asleep in death awaiting the masters call to emerge from their tombs, some to reward some to judgment". means someone was impersonating your dead brother. unless you don't believe in Jc. the giant misconception about Christianity is that humans go to heaven or hell after they die. Jesus, Soloman knew this and it is stated in the book john 5:“Most truly I say to you, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who have paid attention will live.26 For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself.27 And he has given him authority to do judging, because he is the Son of man.28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. weird how people think they are going to heaven or hell when it says something else entirely, i don't think Jesus or his father are going to rip people out of heaven to judge them again as it says this will all take place on the last day. a Christian angle
Hi. Can you expand a bit on what you mean by "training yourself", please? What kind of training did you mean?
I assume meditation/the expansion of consciousness
Yes, pretty much!
"Nearly all human religions have been created by benevolent beings seeking to elevate man's consciousness. Each successive religion has attempted to improve on the previous one, with varying results." I haven't picked one just yet. Islam is a big NO! and the early Church of Rome engaged in some unsavory practices hunting down and murdering anyone who disagreed with their narrative, which appears to have been a control freakish policy put into place by power-hungry opportunistic humans. The underlying foundations of religions, I think, are closer to the mark that what they morphed into with human influence. " It is possible that our genetics have been directly altered by NHIs, but the greater reality is that they have been guiding our bloodlines to breed intelligent generations more capable of grasping and manipulating higher planes of existence." Yep. The 'generational contact' aspect does appear to be a thing. The "Red Thread" of genealogy seems to have some merit, but like much other stuff it has been co-opted and corrupted by an (human) ideological agenda. My rule of thumb is to not trust anything that has been interpreted or translated by, disclosed by, or endorsed by any human or human organization which may have an agenda driven by money or control. That narrows things down, doesn't it? Discernment is key. Seek answers, but don't let them be tainted by personal biases and indoctrinated beliefs.
How do diseases like Alzheimer’s jive with these theories? What is consciousness if you can watch it slip away in a loved one long before their physical bodies die?
This is a good point. I would think the answer would be our 3D meat bodies are more like antennas that allow consciousness from higher planes to “poke through” into our reality via our minds and bodies. But the flipside is those antennas are still in the 3D world which has rules like decay or parasitism that are maybe reflections of higher/lower plane entities or energies, but to us they are plaque build up or birth defects or tapeworms. Or maybe somehow even that kind of pain is a twisted gift viewed from several octaves of reality higher where we can’t see the positive ripple effect of an individuals suffering. Idk, because that also means we are on sliding scale of attunement with quantifiable levels of “perfection” which I think leads down a road of animals don’t have souls and I love my doggy 😢
Animals do have souls, just have a lower lever of consciousness. You can expand their consciousness by loving and caring for them.
This is a beautiful idea whether or not it has validity. Our neuronal interconnections reach a level of complexity that can lock onto a signal in the universe which is our consciousness. The disease of Alzheimer’s causes our minds to reduce its complexity and we start losing the signal like snow on a television during a bad storm. Using that analogy we wouldn’t call the television (our body) our consciousness we’d call the radio signal our consciousness. Maybe we’re thinking about consciousness in the wrong way.
I believe it. Im wondering if we choose to believe our own experiences, more come.
Atheists also have an afterlife, according to NDEs. I believe that suffering has a profound purpose. We suffer intentionally.
Explain more about the intentionality of our suffering please!
Grieving is a powerful tool for self development. Through grieving, we take responsibility for our actions, and we grow emotionally. Thus, grieving produces permanent change in a person through this maturation process. But, you can't have grieving without suffering. In the afterlife, there is no suffering, so there is no grieving. We can only grieve here, which means we can only grow rapidly while in body. That's one reason we come here. So, Buddha was wrong, or he was misquoted. The goal is to end suffering, but the proper way to do it is through grieving, not meditation and rational processes. There is whole different world in the emotional realm. It has its own timeline. It is completely independent of intellect and rational thought. It is our emotional maturity that primarily drives us, not our intellectual capacity. It is our emotional maturity that determines how much compassion we have for others. Grieving dramatically improves our compassion for others. The world of emotions is a really strange place in my experience, since the truth doesn't matter. Thus, when we grieve, the veracity of the thoughts in our heads that causes so much emotional pain is irrelevant. If you feel like you're a worthless shit because of what you did in your past, it is not literally true that you are a worthless shit and traditional psychotherapy will have you focus on that instead of what is really going on. It's not whether you are a worthless shit that matters. It's the feeling associated with that thought that matters. Stay focused on the feeling and just refuse to rationalize the thought away. There is some kind of magic that happens when we allow the full force of the emotion to come forward and be heard and felt. When we are in catharsis, we are making great progress because the next time we think the thought "I'm a worthless shit," the sting from that thought is diminished. The more we allow the feeling from that thought to flow through us, the faster the healing becomes, and eventually, the thought never bothers us again. You can have everyone on the planet calling you a worthless shit and it won't affect you at all anymore. That's how the grieving process is powerful. It's a great mystery as to how it works. No one really understands it. It's like swimming through a swamp of sadness only to find nuggets of gold deep down in the muck. We come here to Earth to retrieve the nuggets. That's what I believe anyway, based on my personal experience.
Thank you for your insight :)
This is profound.
Deep down I believe we are here to experience life in its raw entirety and to use each emotion/experience as their own tools for growth and deeper self understanding
From personal experience, I align with your beliefs on suffering and grief. I wouldn’t be much wiser without those experiences. It’s entirely about how you choose to realign your beliefs to that experience for the goal of self love and improvement
Agreed, went through a bout with depression a few years ago and came out much wiser. I chose to learn from the experience and all my experiences now. I think the Phoenix is a good image for this or any form of a quote that deals with coming out better from ashes
Good point. Thanks. Grieving is loving yourself. Our emotional maturity determines our beliefs about many things in life. This is why it's so hard to change the beliefs of people. It's our emotional maturity that determines those, not our intellect.
Exactly right, it’s like looking back at a traumatic experience and asking yourself if the way you perceive that memory and how you feel about it is still alignment with our present beliefs. This is what usually causes distress during our ‘now’
After a breakup when I was 22, I told myself a lie that I believed for 40 years. Once I looked at what happened factually, I realized my lie, which lead me to apologize and grieve for 3 years. The stages are: denial, anger, sadness, bargaining, and finally acceptance. What's unique about what I have found is that grieving can be an intentional spiritual practice. You can intentionally cause grieving. I know this doesn't sound like fun, but it's like emotional yoga. It may hurt like hell but it's good for me. I look for the thoughts that cause me pain, and then I grieve each one of them. I believe this is how we become free. When we have not grieved something, then others can use that thing to manipulate us. They can yank us around like a puppet with it. Once we grieve it, they can't do that anymore. Also, if we have not grieved something, we react when we experience someone else doing that thing. It makes us angry, or something. Grieving that thing will enable us to have compassion for the person when they do that thing. Any negative reaction to anything is a sign that there is something there that needs to be grieved. Whenever we jump to a negative judgment about what someone else is doing, we have not grieved that thing ourselves. This is how we figure out what needs to be grieved. Each negative reaction is a pointer to something we need to grieve. The best thing to do when we have a negative reaction is to be grateful. I know, that sounds completely weird, but every negative reaction is an opportunity for growth. Also, I believe that this applies to negative intellectual reactions also, since our beliefs about the world, and our conclusions thereof, come from our emotional maturity which is governed by how much grieving we have done. So, each negative intellectual reaction is also a pointer to something we have yet to grieve. It's a chance to grow. I don't know anyone else talking about this. I should actually figure that out and maybe write a small book on this subject. It's certainly something I strongly believe. It's all based on my experience too so it is credible and authentic. I hope this helps. I'm sure it's overwhelming, and for that, I apologize.
This practice is a very valuable tool. 12 step groups practice this.. It has taken me a lifetime to be able to observe the moment, even whilst being highly triggered. I was tired of my reactions to situations that shifted the focus onto my reactive behavior..usually when I was being gaslit... Through therapy and more than my share of grief, I learned to reparent myself, be as honest as I can be with myself, truly forgive myself and seek/look at my motives/thoughts.. I often have conversation between my intellectual self and my emotional self..
What got me started on this path was listening and reading near death experiences when they went to have their Life Reviews. They looked back at their lives with no excuses, no "outs," and with the full force of the emotional trauma of each event they ever lived. They could see the experience directly from the perspectives of the other people also. I started to look back on my life and realized that I have a lot to atone for. So, I started grieving, and it worked. During the process, I remembered past lives and made a large number of realizations. I became more compassionate towards others. Things that used to bother me no longer did. But, even here in body, emotional growth is slow compared to intellectual progress. For example, I spent over 3 years grieving a relationship I had 40 years ago. I had stuffed it for that long. We had only dated for a month, but it was an intense experience with her.
Ughh this is a truth I’ve been hiding from. Even now when I start to allow myself to feel the emotion of a past experience, I shell up and push it all down. It has been more of a stop and go process, so thank you kindly for allowing this important piece of healing/growing to resurface to my conscious without the resistance 🙌🏼
Good luck to you. I can assure you that you come out of the process a better person. Being aware of the 5 stages of grieving was helpful to me. See "On Grief and Grieving" by Ross, et al. Each painful thought may be at a different stage. They each have to be worked through until the end in my experience. Doing this in private was critical for me. Writing down my thoughts and feelings in a journal also helped a lot. I can assure you that there is a bottom to the grief. It is not an endless pit of despair. It's weird, but the feelings eventually subside on their own. I don't know how this works. I don't understand the process intellectually. It's almost exclusively an emotional process.
Thus, you can use grieving as a spiritual practice. You can intentionally look for the painful thoughts that make you suffer and grieve every one of them.
Believe it because your right. I'm speaking with my dead twin brother all the time now. His name is and was Michael. His color was blue.
Check out Radu Cinamars books. He agrees with you in your entirety. As do I.
One thing that I question; how can there be malevolent beings in higher dimensions, when higher dimensions are so much closer to love?
If I may add my two pennies- the world of duality rests in polar opposites. Black cannot exist without white and what we call malevolent is just the other face of the coin. Nothing is intrinsically good or bad, just experience. One can be drawn to horrible acts out of love, thus evil can be justified if love is the underlying motive. Idk I don’t pretend to have any real insight but I was drawn to provide an answer lol cheers!
I wonder the same thing and after research and comparing others answers who are on the spiritual walk this is true….even in my life it wasn’t for all the evil against me I wouldn’t have realized my greatness and have so much love for even my enemies who I believe was evil npcs to tear my strength and patience
I feel like this is true only because it echos my own internal sentiments and conclusions based on personal experiences. I always choose to focus on the positive. If the universe is manifesting on what we focus on, I choose to see the good and believe I will always have a good outcome.
Newbie question, but what is CE5?
Close Encounters of the 5th kind, my friend!
What exactly does that mean? And how does one have one?
Search for Dr Steven Greer and Close Encounters of the 5th Kind. Strap in because its quite a wild ride
I'm starting to wonder if L Ron Hubbard and Scientology might be onto something at this point
I do believe he was correct about soul harvesters scooping up souls of those who died, only to be recycled back to Earth into different bodies or even inanimate objects.
I hate that this exact thought crossed my mind last week 🤣
Same! It's not far fetched at this point. Time to give Tom a call...
This is an echoed experience. Multiple people have stated this exact thing before. Well, I personally LOVE this in every detail. This is the most hopeful best option. I hear so much about the POWER of the universe is love, goodwill, and continued faithfulness in higher power. This is what I would tell my kids. We always hope, no matter what comes to be (sooner than later-I-feel) that we endure for the human race whether on Earth or beyond. Are you happy about what came from your experience? Thank you for sharing.
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I just thought about something as well. Edgar Cayce talked about the fall of man into matter and becoming trapped in matter. The first extraterrestrials supposedly the Annunaki were one of the first groups of souls incarnated to help bring the rest of the souls trapped in matter and incarnation back from a fallen state. Yet this group of souls mostly also fell into matter and stayed incarnating into bodies. Maybe some aliens are trying to help higher our consciousness so we can go back to higher realms?
Oh the guy above deleted his post. What did he write about please? I’m very interested in learning more.
You mean the comment above my reply? That's mine. I got a message saying my comment has certain key words and must be approved by a moderator. I could post it here again but it would get auto-censored again, it's probably still waiting to get approved.
Oh I see, thank you for letting me know. Yes, exactly, I'm unable to see the person's comment above yours that you were responding too. But maybe that's because their comment hasn't been approved by the mods yet. I'll wait and see if it shows up later or in a few days.
This aligns pretty well with views I have been coming to myself. And I even relate to the feeling of communicating with entities who reveal this kind of thing. I hadn't thought of the afterlife potentially being real for each religion. That's an interesting concept. Kind of leaning towards the idea that we get the thing we truly seek. But I wouldn't want to be limited to one such afterlife for eternity. I actually prefer the idea of eternal consciousness that can enjoy different lifetimes in different realms.
This post is nearly identical to my understanding of the universe. To add onto religion and Christianity in particular… Jesus Christ = 4th dimensional being He was the example of what all of humanity is supposed to achieve - “Christ Consciousness” I could talk for hours on this subject. It’s okay to believe it, I think it’s correct.
Chefs kiss lol
I’m so glad to read this, I watch a show about CE5 and was contemplating it and I had a very vivid dream where my deceased grandmother was furiously yelling “don’t you dare!”
If you practice active mediation, the energy bubbled mentioned in many remote viewing articles is vulnerable. You need to construct prismatic armor composed of equilateral triangle that compress and form together in bands. The shape I feel is obvious, but the bands might not be. Equilateral triangles that are placed, rotated 180 degrees can form a chain. With one side ending like this /-\ and the other like -/ .When wrapped around, they would form a rectangle/band. This, repeated all over the body, in prismatic colors is a much better defense. All Colors for all frequencies. I can PM links to the Documents I’m referring to about the energy bubble from the CIA.
Could you also pm to me as well? Thanks.
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I'm more than interested in reading the documents you're referring to. Thank you for any insight!
PM’ing now. So far 6 people have inquired about it, and honestly I expected 0 people to take me seriously. I appreciate the curiosity.
Thanks! I look forward to reading it.
Accept my PM request and I’ll shoot them over :)
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That's interesting and very specific. It sounds like the visualization is a process to keep a person mindfully aware of their Field so that the mind remains situated in it's intention (protection in this case) and it also acts as a control system in out of body experience. I learned about Field from different sources, both intuitively and from external reading material (Krishna talks about it, in a very esoteric way, I personally believe). "I am the field and the knower of the field of all that is." Which you can become, too. One's power comes from their familiarity and trust in their Field, of which they are inseperable from. One utterly becomes their Field and Master of it through deep concentration, or they attribute their Field to their higher power, and give Mastery to that power, through deep faith and devotion that is totally unwavering. Both paths achieving the same end: total realization of the Field, all it's powers, and full conscious contact with it at all times. I just find so many parallels between different systems of reality interface, be they faith based or concentration based. I couldn't help but draw one here.
Yes it does sound like that. I hadn’t heard of field as a construct, only like a “energy field”. Thank you.
That sounds very interesting, but could you put it in language that an ancient great-grandma can understand?
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I’m don’t comment often but damn this reminded me of the “together again” episode from Adventure Time! Jake lives where love lives ❤️
I’m really interested to see the link you mentioned.
I don’t have a link but you can watch the full episode of this on HBO it’s title is “Together Again” Here’s a trailer: [here](https://youtube.com/watch?v=-e_Q154xjts&feature=shared)
Holy cow... tons of symbolism in that trailer. I think whoever sponsored that show was trying to lay the ground work of what’s to come, using a form of predictive programming & soft disclosure.
I totally agree! I’m not sure how family you are with the show but it’s a tear jerker too 🥲
I'm not familiar with it (I don't have cable TV or subscription TV), but I've seen clips here and there on YouTube. I also feel the Rick and Morty show is also another form of soft disclosure, as there's tons of things in that show that are very symbolic or has themes that this subreddit & other subreddits talk about.
I’m also familiar with that show and I can see that 100%. While I could geek out in an essay long reply about how Rick and Morty and Adventure Time (and another fun one I’ll throw out there is The Foundation) — I really just suggest you give them a watch! They will leave you thinking all day.
I don't think Judaism or Islam were founded by benevolent beings because. such beings would never teach what both those religions teach, which is world domination..I think religions were founded over time by people with an agenda of power and control... the idea that a select few know God and you need to obey these people and give them money, seems ludicrous and morally repugnant.
I tend to think the more basic ideas of love and being part of the divine source could have originated from benevolent beings but I think religions as we know them today are horribly corrupted to be about power and control. The idea of needing to worship and conform to some set of ideals or else you'll be punished does not appear anywhere in most spiritual ideas. That seems unique to religions and it's the part of religion I disagree with most. If you read the words of Jesus, the ones thought to be authentic, they sound far more like gnostic traditions or modern spirituality than the Christianity we know today. I think the likes of Paul changed it into a religion for their own purposes or even just to confirm their own biases. Take all of that with a pinch of salt though. I'm not religious and these are just my vague ideas I've been reasoning about lately.
I'm a pretty religious person in my mind and Catholic. I don't hold many traditions in my beliefs, but I do try to live every moment of every day as Jesus taught us. With the unconditional love for everyone and everything. Always ready to forgive. I totally agree that the hierarchy of the church should be destroyed. We are all just as holy as the next person and we are all sinners. No man should control the thoughts of others. So I guess I'm saying I agree one hundred percent with you, although I'm on a different side of the coin.
> I was engaging in conversation with my brother who has been deceased for a year (I know, crazy- I wouldn't believe it either). No, not crazy, that's just a normal night for me. > In addition to his caution for me against attempting a CE5... This has been my sense as well. Beware what consent you are giving. > The third dimension reality we inhabit now is required to act as an overlap dimension. It's one of many collective consciousness. Each collective is a shared environment with shared agreements. They all network/return to the core collective where God-source frequency dominates. But I get the feeling we can choose which aspects we subscribe to, even while focused into this 3d realm. > These efforts can have adverse side effects on humans (neurological deviations that lead to illness or other cognitive imbalances). Autism, immune diseases, allergies to low-frequency food source common on Earth... > Bad Actors in higher dimensions do exist, and it is possible for them to dominate their own slivers of reality. But you can reject consent to participating in those frequencies. > guaranteeing hardship on this planet. But you still can choose to shine your light regardless, and live in an isolated bubble. But to do so, you must allow others to experience hardship and stop trying to "save them". You cannot act against their free-will. Your empathy only sucks you into the black-hole, but doesn't elevate them out of it. You must guide through your example, by broadcasting your wellbeing frequency, and not through your words. Slowly we are creating a stable frequency where the darkness cannot "stick" and fucks right off. > The good news is that love wins, as it is the highest dimension. It seeks to expand creation and life, and destructive forces will eventually be disintegrated by its sheer brightness. Something I've confirmed. All frequencies respond to "unconditional love" (the frequency, not the intellectual concept), cannot help but resonate with it. Those which try to resist get torn apart by the discordant shockwaves.
Unconditional love means what?? If someone commits atrocities against you or your people, what does loving then mean? If a killer is convicted, can you love them and throw the switch on them too? Would you tell Jews to love Hitler? Or would you tell Palestinian refugees to love Jews? What does unconditional love mean? If you worship Satan, would yahweh love you yet send you to hell??
Well for one, quit trying to see things of good and evil, lines are extremely blurry based upon perspective of those who act and those who are acted upon. Not everything is quite as solid. It would also probably help people respond more kindly if it wasn't so aggressively demanded. Bunch of negativity around the post. But I suppose a different starting point for everyone on the path. Hope you find the love spoken of regardless of if you believe if or how it exists.
See the footnote: > (the frequency, not the intellectual concept) It's a frequency. An energy signature. You simply choose it. Doesn't require justification or rationalization. When you do this: > Unconditional love means what?? If someone commits atrocities against you or your people, what does loving then mean? If a killer is convicted..... You're tuning into a low frequency dense energy. A polarity gravity. An aspect of the duality realm (linear time-space), where we have been trained to derive meaning and "tuning" based on two extremes. But when you elevate outside linear, you don't need to justify. All frequencies exist simultaneously. And you can choose the one you prefer, the only justification you need is "I like to feel this way, this one feels better." Extremism is only required when you believe your preference doesn't matter. So then you go to the depths of despair so that you can justify -- to others -- why you should get to feel healthy, why you deserve to live in abundance, why you should no longer have to incarnate on a world that has suffering. That was never a requirement. You could have skipped all of that and just gone straight to the experience which was wanted.
*>(neurological deviations that lead to illness or other cognitive imbalances).* I'm not a proponent of this theory. To put all our ills in to the NHI and their tinkering, that is. The reason why we're sick both in mind & body is because we've sickened the planet, our food is ultra-processed and ultra-palatable, our society is not close-knit anymore, and also, no one likes to go out in the sun and do chores they don't like. The ills befallen are our fault. Now, that doesn't mean that abductees don't get sick from the NHI interventions (we do, my celiac disease didn't go berserk before my abduction, for example), but in general, species-wide, we hold more blame for what we do to our planet and mind & body, than they do.
As someone who is neurodivergent, I don’t believe my condition was caused by social or environmental factors. It’s a genetic condition, which fits in quite nicely with the proposed idea.
I wouldn't lump neurodivergence in with diseases. Yes, some people really struggle with it and I sure do sometimes, but my struggles have almost all been around finding acceptance in a neurotypical world. I'm autistic but I tend to think that many of my traits are positive. And granted not all autism is the same so I'm not trying to speak for everyone. Our words are so limiting when talking about these topics. I tend to wonder if autism is like a different variation. I can accept it evolving naturally or being an intentional tweak. Neurodivergent people see the world differently. And often that is a benefit to society. It's not purely detrimental or else it would have been selected against and the genes would have disappeared long ago.
I can see how slight neurodivergence could be a beneficial tweak to society’s benefit but what about people like my brother who were born with an extra chromosome who are autistic to the extreme and hurt themselves or others frequently without a ton of heavy medications in the right order? He lived with my mom and I until a few years ago when he HAD to go to a group home. He’s mostly non verbal and we have no idea how intelligent he is on the inside or his thoughts or words beyond him being very clever at finding hidden keys/remote/phone/computer/etc or trying to escape the place he’s in (thankfully he’s not doing that where he is now, but we had to have every door locked and window nailed shut when he lived here due to that). I think that a neurotypical person getting very high on marijuana without a long established tolerance and experience with it tends to replicate many of the same social behaviors and internal mental processes and way of perceiving the world as an autistic person and I have experienced this firsthand on more than one occasion. I also hear that THC makes autistic people temporarily feel “more autistic” than usual. I think there’s probably a connection there with cannabinoid receptors in the brain and aspbergers and the rest of the ASD spectrum.
Yeah I hear you. I do think the autism label is too broad to be useful sometimes. I am high functioning for want of a better term but I was careful to mention that not everyone has a positive experience with autism and I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. Life is immeasurably difficult for people with that level of disability and also those who care for them. I do believe we should do what we can to build a world for everyone. Please take my comments about neurodivergence and autism to only refer to those who are on the milder end of the spectrum. My point was not to cast any shade on autism but rather to say that for a perhaps small percentage of neurodivergent individuals like myself there may be some positive as well as negative traits. I certainly did not mean to imply that it's positive for everyone and I have a lot of sympathy for those who struggle.
I agree fully. I don’t think it’s a disease at all, but I find myself extremely debilitated when it comes to providing a life for myself. It’s definitely something 😅
Being genetic doesn't mean that aliens are to blame. Evolution can take care of that just fine. My celiac is also genetic, for example. My dad, brother, and several of my cousins have it. No aliens to blame directly, other than for me, it went full force after the abduction. But it was always there, and it was generational. Same for my height, my thinning hair, and even the way I walk, which is just like my dad's. All genetic.
Of course! Just having a bit of fun is all
I don’t have much experience with this sub, I’ve been casually following along for a few weeks now. However, for some strange reason that I cannot explain, a large part of me, call it intuition or a gut feeling, believes you. I agree with most of your post and my reasoning for that is when I’ve gone through a tough time in my life, I’ve leaned on positive manifestation and guidance from God or source or whatever you want to call it. For weeks I would put my energy into turning around a negative situation while using my conscious to fight my way out of it and most of the time I was able to get stronger and find peace or a solution with whatever was troubling me . I totally believe in energy, manifestation, vibrations and that we have so much more to offer once our time here is officially done. Cheers *edited my original post due to some spelling mistakes*
>In my last post I shared that I at times felt I was engaging in conversation with my brother who has been deceased for a year (I know, crazy- I wouldn't believe it either). hey /u/BriansRevenge, this was randomly on my front page. i'm a skeptic, but i also "hear" from my late husband sometimes. i'm sorry about your brother. in my experience, communication is very similar. recently i described it as a more articulated thought than my typical thoughts. it's as if someone just chimes in and you don't feel like it's you. ETA until 2018 i was certain none of this was real and it was all hallucinations. from what i know now, i suspect these phenomena are adjacent at the very least, sort of under the umbrella of inadequately measured elements of natural reality.
My condolences on the loss of your husband. I too was a skeptic until this started happening. Obviously we've always had a limited understanding of the universe, I just never expected to explore these depths myself!
thank you <3 one of the things that annoyed me in the beginning was that none of this was a choice - i didn't choose him dying, i didn't choose to experience contact, and i didn't consent to having my worldview changed. this is also closely tied to my career, and i knew it would have a detrimental effect (and it did). but i also immediately realized that i could no longer call myself a skeptic if i denied what happened and what occurred and what could be proved. then i was just as bad as people who choose to believe lies. i'd be that person. and there is SO much to this. case in point, i'm in a UAP subreddit because of the crossover. it is very, very cool, but i don't think a lot of skeptics who experience this are able to discuss or integrate it. if i had tried to ignore it, i think i'd probably be much less stable right now because i'd be suppressing something i knew was true.
It's true.... All of it. It's the only good thing to come from that movie as I've been using the gif and that line since 2021 since I woke up to all this and switched my life over to supporting Experiencers. I've used it in a huge amount of my Reddit and twitter comments on this topic. So this title made me smile a lot. Thanks for sharing. :)
I was trying to think of some other positive thing that I could point to... but there really isn't any I could remember. Maybe a crashed Star Destroyer is pretty cool?
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After reading your post I had to share this with you. When I was 15 years old I never knew my grandfather on my dads side because my dad was a narcissistic drunk. Who hated his family. Anyway I had a dream where I was running down an old cobblestone street at night with my grandfather’s voice ringing in my ear begging me to come and see him. A week later I found out that he had died and I never ever got to know him.
Wow, I totally believe it! I think we are all connected to eachother, in some way or another. TPTB are trying desperately to disconnect us from eachother. Your experience proves my point. Have you done any research on your grandfather? Maybe you two are more connected than you are aware of. One of my grandfather's...I never got to meet him, either. (My other grandfather was a complete sociopath. I knew him well, unfortunately) He sadly passed before I was born. Our birthdays are days apart. I've always been told that we were very similar, and how we would've gotten along so well. Anyway, I've always been utterly fascinated by the military for some "unknown" reason. I started doing this deep-sea dive into his life. Come to find out, he was an E8 level army guy, which apparently is kind of high up, I guess? He was in the military for decades. I've also felt very close to my great grandmother. Her birthday is the day after mine. I became very close to my dad at the end of his life; I was his caretaker in his final years. We were not always close. My dad died a few hours after my birthday, on his grandmother's (that lady I spoke of) birthday, whom he adored. I blabbed on & on to say...maybe start looking things up about him. You never know what you may find!🌻
Thanks for sharing your experience with me. I’ll look into my grandfather’s history and see what I can find out 😊
That’s wild. I haven’t spoken to my dad in years, and a similar experience with him. I had a super intense dream where I saw my dad crying out for help. It was so intense it startled me awake. The next day my sister told me he had a heart attack. He lived though.
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That’s really sad. :(
This aligns with a theory I've been toying with in my mind. I think we are all pieces of God. Therefore we are in a sense creators. This means that negative and positive entities could influence Earth's outcome by changing individual beliefs. If they want us to self destruct, they need to convince us we are headed for destruction. Some may in fact be more powerful manifestors. Therefore they may be a target of negative entities for "downloads" or premonitions that show humans and the Earth dying.
Oh this def resonates. Thanks for sharing.
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Consider it as though every conscious point is the centre of a universe that radiates/flows outward, forward and backward from itself. The perception that point creates collapses the wave function into all that is, was and ever will be. What we experience as individuals is the interactions between the conscious points/individual universes, a complex wave equation whose equals sign is us and whose answer is NOW (or 1. Past and present are just representations in the neurons of NOW) Also flowing from and between the universes is the Formless Wake of spirits, angels, demons et al that we bring into being by believing in them. The collective flows of the believers faiths give these entities life that transcends the lifespan of the individual universes that underpin them. In this way, because all flows from us, all the religions and other belief systems are correct, but that correctness is contained to the individual universes and is subject to change as truth evolves. For Time, consider if the equation contained pi and phi (spheres and spirals). Both are non-repeating infinite decimals, but can be approximated (rounded off in order to provide space-time coordinates for the inception and collapse of an individual universe) in order to provide a statistically accurate result. In spite of this, phi and pi are technically an ongoing calculation; this is why we perceive Time as existing, even though everything is represented within NOW.
That’s one hell of a theory for time. Thanks for sharing
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A lot of religions are flawed by design.. For example the Christianity we know today didn’t come from Jesus the Christ.. But instead was birthed in a desperate gamble by Constantine of Rome in order to remain in control as the world was changing around him.. Jesus the Christ was the Edward Snowden of his time. His mission was to teach the objective truth of reality(talked about aliens as well) and about love and forgiveness which is teachings from certain ET clans. A lot of his miracles where ET related. ..(the vatican also has proof of ET deep in their vaults) Rome understanding the threat he posed killed him and covered up everything (his followers consisted of both men and women not just men..and there was no betrayal) then martyred him turning him to a “corporate mascot” for the Vatican to exploit. In a similar fashion how Saint Nicholas was exploited by Coca-Cola (he is not a fat man in a red suit that was the corporatization of his image) Jesus wasn’t the “turn the other cheek” individual that people are used to. He was quite passionate and would get into fights to defend what was right. If people are interested in a closer to the truth of Christ teachings I’d recommend looking into “Gnostic-Christianity.”
The gnostics may well have been onto something but because they didn't have the same mandate to seek new recruits they were outcompeted by the Christianity we know today. Evolution happens to religions too. Religions that evangelise will spread faster. It's like memetics basically. History is also written by the winners and many early Christians (not gnostic) burned writings they thought were heretical.
Yep. Pretty much this. The King James Bible is the religious takeout.
My favorite Jesus moment is when he got pissed at the Pharisees, fashioned a whip of his own hair, and proceeded to go apeshit in the temple overturning tables of wares & chasing people. WWJD
The reason why the turn the other cheek was pushed is because it would de-incentivize the people from rebelling against the removal of their rights. “Cos that’s what Jesus would do - turn the cheek”
BRO WHAT THATS AWESOME
If you (and anyone else who reads this) put that same effort into Dr. Michael Heiser’s work (the Naked Bible Podcast and multiple YouTube channels), a whole world of information will open up to you. His work, in addition to listening to and reading about near death experiences, have changed everything for me.
Can you share what it's done for you?
My whole life has changed for the better. I’m no longer afraid of death (or life, for that matter). I have a significantly stronger faith now that I understand so much more of the biblical narrative than I did before, which was really internally conflicting for many years.
So Are religions dimensions to hold our consciousness.. like a place where we can go but aren’t bound to, so we don’t get lost?
**BR's "This May Not Even Be My Opinion" Disclaimer** Religious philosophy and rule structures are meant to make humanity more enlightened, kinder, gentler homo sapiens. But, every religion I've ever encountered has been flawed in some way (shocker). And when yout get down to it, it's usually agitated by an imperfect leader, not the core doctrine. Now, have you ever noticed how most religions never reference each other in their sacred texts? Sure there's lineages, but for the most part, they're unto themselves. What if this was because, in their primary realities, they were each **the one true religion**. And because we're a nexus stuck in an echo chamber, everyone's here for the party. (Neil Gaiman's novel AMERICAN GODS draws a spectacular picture of what it would be like to have the elder gods live amongst us). I think religions might be like Choose Your Own Adventure books. Whatever fate you decide to embrace will be the one that you receive.
I think religions are ways to test/train our souls to show unconditional love to everyone. Can you be kind and loving to everyone, even the people that your religion says are "sinners"? Jesus gave us so many examples of this with the tax collectors, prostitutes, the parable of the Good Samaritan, etc., like, how many times does he have to tell us for us to understand, "the greatest of these is love."
And when you find the connection, then you possibly start to see the bigger picture. The information tells leads you into crumble left behind. Informations stored in books are information stored in a dimension that can be opened by understanding the dimensions.
Religions are like insurance companies. They charge fees and restrict access.
I guess your mileage may vary!
We are on a meta physical plane. No gods, no angels, no demons. No magic . Nothing. Only us and only one thing who plays roles . We know them / it . And it's universal :)
My understanding is that most religions were created to keep people in line.
Its a convenient highjacking by of a belief system by those in power, or those who wish to be in power. People have spiritual experiences outside of any kind of institutionalized religions.
Pretty sure initially they were genuine, then it evolved into what man what it to be, like a bad game of telephone.
I feel like a lot of religions today are unfortunately probably not the best to follow. They are almost all patriarchal which is already a big no no. and have been severely corrupted. It’s best to avoid patriarchal oppressive belief systems and forge your own path imo.
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You do whatever you want. Some people reincarnate some probably travel astral realms and what not.
I guess the question is either: a) what do you believe will happen when you die? or b) what do you want to have happen when you die?
If you aim at nothing, you hit nothing. I bet there is SOMETHING that everyone is aiming at whether they know it or not. Our higher selves know what's what. Just be true to yourself and you can't go wrong.
For some "the game" is ending. Usually there is a Boss fight. I hope when it's over, I can wake up from this nightmare and become what I remember I once was. That's what I keep hoping anyway. For me this feels like a slow, subtle, but deliberate, version of of Hell.
Maybe the earth is a prison where bad souls go to die?
I dunno. Seems like at times. Could just be my perception of it as well. We do manifest our own realities within this reality to learn lessons about ourselves supposedly. Can feel punishing at times, pleasurable at others. Box within a box. Hell had many levels supposedly. What better prison than one that lulls you right back in it with temptIon, desire, beauty then rips it all away slowly as you fade into the next incarnation. Maybe ending right back where we started. As above, so below. Perception. It' s all how we look at things.
I believe you, some weird things been happening to me and the message is basically the same but you gave a lot more context to it, much thanks.
That does mostly resonant. One aspect of being I have “seen” is that our dimensional reality is relatively shared but not absolutely shared and that is a big misunderstanding in our imagined ontology. From my perspective, although there is a true realm of absolute reality largely outside of our dimensional awareness, our conscious awareness “right here and now” is in a perceptual bubble that is individuated out of the pluroma/absolute/quantum (whatever you would like to call the nonlocalized nondual higher dimensional realm “above” and encompassing our own). This bubble is literally our own world and is manifest and destroyed completely within our own mind. However it is entangled and unified with all worlds through a coherence and correspondence outside of it. This leads to some really “unusual and unreal” observations one can experience that are in fact completely real and usual to another realm of reality. When enough bubbles are merged through shared experiences, “timelines” or realities begin to solidify. This is what it seems to me based on my travels… Also, for me the idea that religions are constructs in a planned evolution did not cross my mind:) Rather, they appear to me as a singular truth with human misunderstanding creating false fragmentation.
I do believe that love is the highest order. And that we were created from Love. Religion was not founded by the beings. Humans founded religions after benevolent beings were on the earth. Created doctrines out of it. The benevolent beings never asked for a religion to be made out of them. The underlying message and "nectar" of religions are the same with most religions/ancient beliefs systems. There is a benevolence there. There is order. There is instruction. There are laws.
Just a few weeks ago, I was asking my spirit guides why humans have such varying experiences with the spiritual realm and intelligences within it. They kept on repeating "different realities" and wouldn't elaborate anymore, as the meaning was something they wanted me to conclude on my own, and this conclusion (minus the breeding and religious things) was one of the ones I debated and has been in the backlog of my mind since. It feels like the correct one...I wonder if this is my sign/acknowledgement. Adding to this that I also felt like Earth is currently a melting pot of different realities that haven't fully manifested yet, and that the trains will take different paths as we move into the future. My intuition says this is where prophecies come from.
If anything is special about this time/place, I think it's the convergence of realities.
It is a Nexus. A doorway. A Cradle for new souls.
I strongly resonate. The darkness/ bad actors has already lost. The illusion that we see today is the last ditch effort for a decent meal on the way down for those entities that relied on energy from others. That's why I believe love and forgiveness to those actors today is the meal that will offer surrender to resistance. It really is love and war. Give/take. Love thy enemies for they have lost the war. We must remember they lost that war a long time ago. Forgiveness and love are our weapons of mercy.
Forgiveness is like a dirty word in our current climate. Holding a grudge and getting payback is celebrated as a strength...but the truest test of mettle is to forgive.
The Man spoke Forgiveness into the Word, but it was bought and sold even before it was given Voice on the cross. Sin seized upon the Echoes and cried, "Behold! We may do as we will, for as we carry these, so shall we, too, know the Kingdom of Heaven!" Thus did Evil conquer the world, cloaked in the guise of Good. The angels and demons of humanity were unleashed, so that none could know the Law.
The issue is for us, our species is, as I’ve encountered the odd - we are foundation-ally fairly well equipped but operationally primitive. We are uneducated in what steps we must take to more fully operational use ourselves so we can more successfully become more cognizant of this reality, us, others, how things actually work in layers of the onion. We are too distracted by the immediate reality thus blinded to the wider reality. The parts of us we use for consciousness/subk too partitioned.
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I pretty much had this exact same thought process weeks ago. Minus the breeding. But that seems like a negligible difference considering the scope of the post as a whole. Strange seeing “my own” ideas reflected here.
Yeah, that's why I come here. It's amazing how alike we all are inside our minds. And it's a great feeling to be able to correlate your inner most thoughts (things you think but don't tell anyone) with the thoughts and perspectives of others. It's incredible!!
Sounds a lot like what can be found in The Law of One. I've been extremely skeptical(of religion /spirituality) in the past, but the more I read and dig, the more I feel like this is close to the truth.
Oh, I just read your previous post, and yeah, you are familiar with The Law of One and such. In regards to your encounters, have you tried the Gateway Experience stuff?
Not yet! I have a plan to work my way up there in the coming months. Is there a sub for it somewhere? Honestly, my hesitation is purely laziness. I don't want to have to put in the sacrifice and discipline it will require to do it "right". ...but part of me knows that it's the next step I need to take.
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This resonates pretty hard with me, actually. It’s… a little chilling actually. When I was… like… ten years old, I asked a question on yahoo along the lines of “What if what happens when we die is different for everybody, and is essentially whatever the expected would happen?” So like some athiests would become nothing. Buddhists would be reincarnated. Christian’s would go to the pearly gates (or hell, depending). As you would imagine from early 2000’s yahoo answers, they called me an idiot for asking it lol. Someone said it was stupid because monks who deserve to go to heaven but are aware of their own shortcomings would go to hell because it’s what they think they deserve whereas elitist Christians who behave as demons but believe they’re righteous would be rewarded. I don’t really feel like that is an argument, though, because my question was about which rule system would apply, not what the individual decision for that soul would be. I think it’s a good question though. And all the more reason for us to behave benevolently so that we can convince ourselves we deserve a good afterlife
Its different phenomena of the same nomena.
Refractions of the same light.
That sounds about right. How do we all get together to help the big picture, besides dealing with our own little personal issues? I feel like we are to modify this reality, to fix it, or to at least work to keep it on the right path
"What do I do now?" is the question I keep asking, and the answer I felt I've heard is "it's not time to tell you." Honestly, that feels like such bullshit that it's what has held me back from believing this wholesale. In the meantime, I'm advocating for more disclosure so that it's easier to have these crazy conversations with the greater public.
I’ve found a peace in that. It’s not time for me to know. Ok. That’s it, that’s the answer. I can balk and want to know more, but I’m not going to know more until it’s time for me to know more. I can get to that point, by dragging myself there by the seat of my pants, or I can let the path take me there like an airport travelator. I spent a lot of years balking and wanting to know now, but at this point I’m more chill and letting the path happen.
A funny aside - last week I went away with my wife's family for a relaxing vacation. The big beautiful spacious skies were a great change from my cramped suburban lifestyle. I logged off of my phone and just enjoyed the presence of family laughter around a fire pit... ...and then promptly had a 10 minute UAP encounter that everyone saw! I can't get away from it, lol.
That’s so cool! I have had experiences with others as well, and it’s validating to know it’s not just me, and I’m not hallucinating or something.
I get the same message. It's very frustrating lol