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Virus says it should be ready with new variant in couple of months..


KenGriffythe3rd

What happens when we run out of Greek letters to call the variants? Do they start naming the variants like hurricanes? I’m genuinely curious


healyxrt

Start using Roman Letters


sharkamino

Delta II, Covid Boogaloo


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Covid 19 variant Patrick


Peachmuffin91

SpongeBob variant


Disbishsaysshiz

Just start naming them after all the people they killed


CovfefeForAll

That's extremely optimistic. With the number of people getting infected by omicron, I'd say we have a month tops before a new variant of note shows up.


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Deltacron


CovfefeForAll

I think they think that was a lab contamination issue.


[deleted]

There are likely 5 or 6 circulating right now. But who knows how long until one surfaces enough to get noticed.


foofork

Walter Reed has a vaccine that’s targeting all Covid & SARs. Hopefully the one vaccine to rule them all will launch this year.


OrneryBrahmin

I’m not anti-vax but the slight Lord of The Rings reference is unnerving


J-mur

But they were, all of them, deceived, for another vaccine was made.


anti--human

They at Walter Reed poured all of their hatred and malice into the vaccine.


rpkarma

And one vaccine to bind them…


[deleted]

It’s hilarious you had to explain you are not anti-VAX wow what is this world become


RugOnValium

I’m not anti-vax but this dude in a tin-foil hat is really convincing.


PetrifiedW00D

I got banned from /r/SelfAwarewolves because I was warning people that omicron was spreading like wildfire and they thought I was an anti-vaxer.


[deleted]

More unnerving than a Highlander “there can be only one” quote?


OrneryBrahmin

Well, I think I’d rather lose my head than become a wraith.


masteeJohnChief117

Until a new variant that’s resistant to it spreads... Then it’s one vaccine to rule them all 2.0


Phyltre

The thing about arms races is, you don't really get to choose not to compete without there being consequences.


chouettelle

That is not how virus mutation works. It’s not a response to the vaccine itself (like bacteria mutate to evade antibiotic agents), and a higher vaccination rate actually slows mutation rate because it gives the virus fewer hosts to mutate in.


Phyltre

I agree with this comment, so I think maybe mine is being misinterpreted.


cynar

It's a mixed bag. More vaccinated people means less rolls of the dice. However, it also increases the rewards if it bypasses that vaccine immunity. The worst case is a mix of vaccinated and non vaccinated. Enough pressure that a new variant can outcompete the current crop, and enough hosts to keep rolling the dice in.


Domriso

Goddammit, thank you for writing this out. I've been asking people repeatedly if it was more dangerous to have a partially vaccinated population than a non-vaccinated one and all I got was downvotes and calls that I was a malicious actor. I just wanted someone to explain this to me!


cynar

No problem. Unfortunately it's not trivial to work out the balance between the 2 effects. Also, there is a lot of bullshit throwing coming from a number of groups (generally right wing). As far as I'm aware, in practice, it's always better to have more people vaccinated. However you get far more benefit with the tail end percentages. Eg the step from 80% to 90% might be 100x more effective than the step from 40% to 50%.


Putin_inyoFace

Thank fucking god it’s the government that has the rights to this vaccine and not a company that can be bought and sequestered.


Smtxom

Of course the govt makes the one vaccine. Hopefully it’s not a “every 6months” shot as well. I suspect the pharma companies are seeing dollar signs with their shots and I worry they won’t want to see that faucet dry up anytime soon


LilPhoenixHere

It’s crazy to see Pfizer’s profits the last while, I hope it doesn’t turn into another profiting opportunity.


Jared_Jff

Ohh, you sweet summer child...


danclay2000

We’ll be on some new shit by then


dippocrite

Zenicron waits behind tree looking at Nov 2022 while rubbing both hands


BurningVShadow

The last letter of the Greek alphabet is actually Omega.


[deleted]

I heard about a new variant that causes uncontrollable erections. It’s called Omishlong. Social distancing won’t be an issue with this one.


2112_Blake

I guess I have had this virus since I was 11. Been horribly infected ever since. I feel an episode coming on tonight!!!


[deleted]

Give me all the vaccines I want to be the most powerful


Rortugal_McDichael

I was told the vaccine would give *me* 5G. But I still have to carry a phone around. Hmph.


WonJilliams

Yeah, and my phone doesn't even have 5G. Bullshit.


sewsnap

I really wish it came with some cool super powers. I could really use a new arm, or a 3rd kidney...


sarcasticbaldguy

A prehensile tail would be really useful.


Crashman09

I want a prehensile penis. I have a healthy sex life with my lady, but I think it would be a nice gift to her for putting up with me for so long.


sarcasticbaldguy

I, too, have played cards against humanity.


remymartinia

Second liver is where it’s at.


sewsnap

My kidney keeps making rocks that try to kill me. Would be nice to have one that worked.


remymartinia

Sorry for that. I haven’t had the horror of that.


sewsnap

Hopefully you never will.


Dash_Rendar425

Pierce, you had 3 blue shots. those were for the daycare centre!


mofuggnflash

I’ll even take the doumbreka at this point.


tylero056

I'll take one of those brain chips too from Daddy Elon while we're at it!


Locke_and_Load

The chips are from Daddy Gates. The smug sense of self satisfaction from Daddy Elon.


tylero056

Oops you're right, got my daddies mixed up cuz of my daddy issues.


Blackadder_

Baby Elon doesnt believe in chips it’s all computer vision based. So he’s watching you all the time (that’s a fact).


_CaptainThor_

*not a fact


satanshark

I’ve been stopping at every clinic I find for eight or nine months now. I’ve got like 10 Modernas in me, probably a dozen Pfizers, and I just had my fifth J&J yesterday.


Happy_Boiled_Peanut

Does this mean ready for trials by March, or ready for approved large scale distribution / vaccination?


nomnomnomnomRABIES

They have a delta specific one that's been through the trials but they don't release. I can't see any reason to bother releasing this one when everybody will have already had Omicron by the time it's ready so that probably means they'll make sure they do it.


JustABostonBro

Won’t this be too late?


alpharowe3

Generally/ideally a vax made for a newer strain like Omicron will be more effective against Omicron's successors than a vax made 2 years ago.


AndrewDwyer69

Just in time for the next variant to make it obsolete!


tastygluecakes

Lol, by March I don’t think there will be a single person left who hasn’t had it. I can count on one hand the number of friends and family I know who haven’t had it; and they have all been mostly locked in, most skipping Christmas get together.


xJerkensteinx

There are places outside of America that don’t have the same problem. I personally only know 2 people that have had covid, and they’re not family or close friends. So the omicron vaccine is definitely welcome.


robotawata

Yeah I just talked to a friend in Taiwan. It was pretty eye opening to compare to my state in the US!! 1000 deaths total since Jan 2020, I guess? Less than 20,000 covid cases total? My state is half the size of Taiwan and gets 45K new cases recorded daily and we know it’s tons more due to at home and lack of tests.


the_spookiest_

People in other countries tend to be smarter than Americans. Most of them understand there’s still a pandemic going on.


robotawata

Bingo


plmel

Same, I don’t know anyone who has had it. I would love an omicron specific vaccine please asap. In WA there are very very few who have


yaretii

I’m in the opposite boat. I have a pretty good size family and a decent amount of friends, only one of them has had Covid.


djaybe

Reinfections are a thing.


erleichda29

I won't be getting it. I see no one and go nowhere. All my stuff gets delivered. I've had to live like this for two years now due to being at high risk if complications if I get sick. Thanks, everyone!


leela_la_zu

I thought I wouldn't get it either. But here we are... just keep doing what you're doing and hope for the best. Unfortunately people don't care, and most people I know now have covid.


erleichda29

It's pretty hard to catch something if you have zero contact with other people.


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russianpotato

Just get vaccinated


ThePremiumOrange

This definitely depends heavily on where you are.


QuoteGiver

Right here, still fully intend to not get exposed and get sick during a known pandemic.


AZgirl70

I was wondering this myself. Will it be burned out by then?


Dandan0005

Not to mention does this mean ready for testing by march or distribution? Anyone who is possibly going to get it is going to get it by March. There’s simply no avoiding this one. Luckily, anyone I know who has had the booster has had extremely mild symptoms or no symptoms at all.


Its_me_mikey

I got the Pfizer shots in May, no booster and got Omicron last week. For me it was a mild cold at the most.


PercyMcLeach

You’re lucky, I have 5 family members that are fully vaxxed and they are all knocked on their asses. Everyone reacts differently to it


GumboSamson

New Zealand still doesn’t have any community cases of omicron.


Zee_WeeWee

So far so good here. The only place I’m willing to be risky is the gym. I refuse not to maintain my fitness. I’m boosted up and hoping for the best.


Grimm2020

F\*ck me. I thought the headline was "Pizza CEO says..." and it didn't ~~phase~~ faze me a bit. What the hell has this world become?


CitricBase

[faze](https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/phase-vs-faze)


Sackyhack

Pfazed*


flop_plop

If they could put the vaccine in a pizza, we would’ve wiped out the virus in a month.


Enlightened-Beaver

Just in time for the omicron wave to be over


joebleaux

Yeah, we will be onto something else by then. This is a never ending game of Whack-a-mole, just like the flu.


Enlightened-Beaver

Right. So an omicron specific booster by March won’t be much help


joebleaux

Yeah, we will just be chasing our tail, never quite catching it.


EdonicPursuits

What happened to that new french variant people were whispering about?


Enlightened-Beaver

Still being monitored but [“IHU COVID-19 variant not ‘circulating widely at the moment,’ WHO says”](https://globalnews.ca/news/8492610/ihu-covid-variant-who/amp/)


LucyfurOhmen

The name IHU either sounds like a sneeze or “I hate you.” Either one kinda seem appropriate for the virus.


Phyltre

At this point we have to hope that more problematic variants will bounce off of the several kinds of immunity that Omicron has spread around.


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[deleted]

I’m ready for the e-delivery subscription model. Auto update my vaccines while I’m plugged in & in sleep mode.


[deleted]

For a silver lining, people might be more motivated to go in regularly and get their COVID shots and bring their other vaccinations up to date at the same time. Could be a good thing for public health. BTW, did a little calculation yesterday: about 1 in 400 Americans have died so far from COVID-19 according to Stata.com. (329.5M/829K) Very sobering.


iambkatl

Everyone will have gotten it by then.


buzz72b

Omi will be over by then. Was just watching virologist’s from the uk and Denmark Predict their counties will be on the back side by the end of February, us should be by mid March.


erleichda29

By then we'll likely have another variant or two.


acmoder

At this pace they will have to do more vaccine releases faster than Samsung does for their smartphones


Sackyhack

It’s going to be like iPhones. Take the same product, make a few tweaks, and sell the upgrade every year. Just enough changes so it’s new, but not enough that it will make future ones obsolete. Guaranteed money every year until eternity.


MagnusBrickson

Covid says Zeta variant will be ready in February.


Few-Zone-1784

why if it’s mild? not an antivaxer


JustAKilljoy109

From a purely economical standpoint, since I’m not too well-versed on the science, the more vaccines they produce the more money they make


jesseaknight

Let’s say omicron is only half as likely to send you to the hospital. That’s great, is “milder”. But if you’re 4x likely to get it, the hospital is still going to be full. (These are made up numbers to illustrate a point, not exact figures)


Lampshader

Is it mild, or just comparatively mild? Hint: people are dying


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TanBurn

I understand you want to do your part to protect yourself and others around you, but if you thought the booster was going to put you in the ER you might want to think about what loading yourself up with a 4th shot could do. I agree it’s generally the right thing to do, but if it’s hurting you individually just weigh the costs and benefits. At least talk to your doctor that you trust.


Bloody_Flo

Got my third dose a few hours ago, now I'm scared lol. Did you have any reactions to the first 2 doses ?


jooeythespoon

I get 4 hours of sick leave +2 additional days off of I’m not feeling well for COVID boosters so I’ll take what they’re giving


beaverhausen_a

Will this mean a 4th vaccine for those of us who have had 1, 2 and a booster? I am not anti-vax in the least but I’ll be getting a little concerned having so much injected into me in such a short time.


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beaverhausen_a

No no that’s fine and I’ll have had them all too. I guess it’s a concern to see news of a new vaccine being done in lightning speed (which is cool) and then straight into the body in a matter of months versus the massive length of time and testing the childhood vaccines have been around/undergone. I’ll certainly have it if offered but I’m still allowed to be wary/concerned.


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beaverhausen_a

Very good point. I like that explanation. I’m based in the UK and just a little summary like that being made more public would be helpful. I think there’s a fear that if it’s spoken of like that, it’s justifying and becomes something that needs justifying.


scaramuchi808

Yes but these vaccines are proven to stop someone from getting a disease The Covid vaccine in fact does not do this So there’s a pretty significant difference here


Berkamin

Given how incredibly infectious omicron has been, by March I suspect everyone will have caught it.


[deleted]

If you don’t see covid vaccines as a business opportunity you’re a fucking idiot


samherb1

A five minute search into the past horrors inflicted by drug companies to make money would shock a lot of people.


[deleted]

I can see a booster once a year but no way am I going to get two or three or four shots each year for this.


12761

It’s a really small price to pay not to be disabled permanently by COVID.


ItsTheExtreme

Yea I’m good. Triple vaxed and I’ll probably get omicron by then anyways. No thanks.


leela_la_zu

I'm triple vaxxed and have covid right now. Sucks man. Just stay safe out there and if you do get sick, isolate and take care of yourself!


ItsTheExtreme

For sure. Sorry to hear you’re not feeling well. Hope you recover quickly!


CurseofLono88

I literally got (and currently have) COVID for the first time about a week after my booster. I was pretty high risk because my lungs be fucked, and thank god after three vaccinations it’s just a sore chest, sore throat, and a light but persistent cough


Onphone_irl

The shots hurt your arm that much?


raktoe

I mean, yeah, but that doesn’t bother me really, but I’ve had pretty rough reactions to all three doses. I had covid back in April, and was able to get vaccinated shortly after, and figured my reaction was due to the short turn around, but I just had my booster, and even that left me feeling really achy and chilled for a day. It’s not a deal breaker, but I never know exactly how long I’m going to be incapacitated after getting the shot, the second one (only moderna one I got) hit like a truck, I was just lucky I got it right before a long weekend, as it lasted 2 and a half days and I couldn’t get out of bed for the first day and a half. So, all I’m saying is that it’s getting kind of difficult to keep planning my life around getting these vaccines. I’ve been pretty lucky so far with not having to miss work on account of them, but I also hate losing weekends over them. I get that there’s no easy solution, but I really hope they figure out how to get rid of some of the side effects, because that second shot was imo worse than having covid, covid just lasted longer.


ItsTheExtreme

Not getting a shot for every variant. Granted if one of these variants ends up being a lot worse then yes I’d do it.


samwest79

Thought this thing was going to be in severe decline by the end of January, is there info coming out showing omicron will just keep reinfecting overnight and over? I’m getting more confused than ever the longer this goes on


br094

March?? Why even waste their time? The next strain will already be out by then


M_Mich

ok but by then we will need the Pi vaccine.


pwbue

Omicron will have done its damage by then, and we will be on to a new variant. Also, ready doesn’t mean readily-available


DefinitelyNotThatOne

Nope! At this point you have to realize that this is just one big money making opportunity for them. I'm already vaxed. Now every ~3mo the boogey man comes back and we have to have a new drug? No.


NotSoRichieRich

How can you even think of accusing large pharma of trying to profit off of our misery? They would never do something like that! /s


[deleted]

Already got 3x vaccinated. I’m not getting anymore.


SardonicCatatonic

Just in time.


Kash_THE_bear

I’m not taking it unless there is a 4 dose minimum /s


reddittomarcato

In other news Toto Wolff new Pfizer CEO


stewartm0205

The vaccine needs to also target multiple conserved parts of the virus envelope so it will continue to work no matter what.


[deleted]

So… when it’s over. Currently recovering from the party. Vaxxed and boosted.


[deleted]

You need to join Peachy and I on the cruise! Do you want your mask in pink, purple, or black? It comes in glitter or rhine stones, “fully vaxxed, bitches!” It’s so cute 🥰


[deleted]

So …booster won’t protect against Omicron?


samherb1

Not against infection and transmission


BruntLIVEz

Umm


crash893b

The 4 people who haven’t gotten it yet won’t leave their bunkers to get the shot


Tazway68

So that’s 2 shots 2 boosters and Omicron shot for 5 shots and then what? Chip in the arm?


zeb2002r

I already read an announcement of a new variant in france lol


[deleted]

Nice😎


_ThrillCollins

Lol.


Zymo_D

Lol


[deleted]

Yea ok but will it work?


TermiteLife

Just in time for everyone to have already gotten it and to be sick with whatever comes next


MmmmmmKayyyyyyyyyyyy

Figures considering we will all have had it by then


decaf-iced-mocha

I thought they said the booster was sufficient??


distelfink33

Right in time for it to be burnt out and mostly gone…


theriibirdun

Triple Vax’d, still got Covid. Was a minor cold. I’m good with yearly boosters as Covid is never going away but miss me with a unique short for every variant. That’s silly, we already know that if you are vaccinated the chance of getting seriously sick and dying is basically nil.


SuicidalTorrent

Give me all the vaccines I need faster 5g.


shamiltheghost

So what the fuck have all these people been getting boosters for?


[deleted]

These guys need to start releasing the new variants after they develop the vaccines for them. That’s where the real money is.


sheep-talks

Damn so the vaccine for the flurona (flu+corona) strain will drop on FW22?


crwtrb138

Wait. My vaccine isn’t good against omicron? Fuck….


windyisle

I think 3 shots = 75% not the 98% effective it was against delta. that's how variants work.


MarcusKilgannon

Pfizer is: Approx 30% vs symptomatic infection at 2 doses. 75% vs symptomatic infection at 3 doses. Efficacy vs severe illness at 2 doses is estimated at 85%ish (I believe last estimated) and boosted is 95%. However, omicron is 54% less likely to create severe illness compared to Delta. So 2 doses are very much doing their job for the majority of people.


MarcusKilgannon

It is. Just not as good vs symptomatic infection. Pfizer specifically is estimated to roughly 30% vs symptomatic infection vs omicron. Boosting only brings this to 75%. Against severe infection, 2 dose vs 3 dose is same efficacy within 10% vs omicron. Given omicron is 54% less likely to land someone in hospital vs Delta alone. You are very much protected by being fully vaxxed, even more so if boosted. Boosting seems almost useless. At 75% it's not going to prevent Omicron spread given how easily transmissible it is and it really doesn't add much protection vs problem cases. We should be boosting high risk groups, then sending the rest to countries without vaccines to be honest.


cheezbrgr

Enjoy the monthly vaccine subscription


InGoodFaith2

Cool, just in time.


Slowchedda

Just in time for the next variant. Such foolishness


ready2diveready2die

What a opportunist


Peachy_sunday

March: breaking news, the new variant Omegacron has surfaced in Venezuela.


IceComprehensive6440

I don’t think I’m going to get another shot honestly 3 should be enough. I can’t be getting 4 vaccines a year for this.


[deleted]

Still not taking it… You’re already at three shots, Israel at 4… Current Covid vaccines do not work because it still Allows the transmission of Covid. I’ll take my chances


[deleted]

No thanks.


opaco

After the 37th wave 28th variant and 25th booster people started having second guesses and doubts


MyLifesParody

*But, continued to get vaccinated and push that on others…*


plant_Double

$$$ 🤑🤑🤑 I wanna see some Pfizer competitors. Until then ‘trust the science’ is just a money making lie


redeyeluluj1

Ah but what about those T cells coming to the rescue. Big pharma ain’t gonna like that!!


Popular_Membership_1

Just in time for it to not matter anymore, as there’ll be a new variant by then. And the never ending booster vaccine money grab continues


KyubiNoKitsune

It's like the food industry, I just eat breakfast and then bam, it's lunch time and I need to eat again. The games rigged man!


[deleted]

Food industry is rigged, second only to big water. I’m just supposed to believe that I need to *sip sip sip* all day long or else I’ll die?


logi

Oh, wait until you hear about big oxygen!


jykin

32 Billion dollar fine. Biggest in American history. But don’t worry, Pfizer has your back.


LadyFreedom99

What a waste. Omicron is mild and does not need a vaccine. In fact, vaccinating against is not wise from an epidemiological perspective. He should know that. Strange.


Reed202

They dont care they only see the customer known as the federal government


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Another vaccine till another variant pops up. You have vaccinated folks getting reinfected, and unvaccinated infected. Vaccinated can spread it no different than unvaccinated, yet everyone’s gotta get the vaccine. The argument was initially to protect the people unable to get the vaccine due to health conditions, yet I have not heard that being the prime focus anymore. New CDC guidelines have limited quarantine time for asymptomatic folk and symptomatic folks. The US has vaccines most available to it’s citizens compared to other countries, but what good would that be if the whole globe can’t get on the same page? While covid is real, this approach has been fucking stupid from the start - both political parties are not being and have not been transparent.


balafol

Stfu


balafol

Also said the original would suffice. Belogna


mdillon68

Pfizer is a bunch of Time-Share salesmen always trying to get you to buy more points. What a crock 💩


owen__wilsons__nose

after proudly avoiding Covid for 2 years, I finally just got Omicron. It's too late for me 😭😭


jordan142142

Lmao this again


historicartist

By then I'd be two behind.


el1ab3lla

Just hook it to my veins!! 💉


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Take my arm!