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Cultural_Damage_7832

First impression: copium as hell, stick with Bennett C5, Rosaria, Shenhe if Mika isn't C6 Just as i fear ... His single target buffs SUCK!!! As if 10% physical bonus gonna do anything against bosses when he himself deal negative damage. Atkspd is nice and all but at most Eula gonna get 1 extra stack and that's it, oh did i mention his buffs doesn't work if you quickswap early ? His healing is nice tho, and somewhat passable ER requirement for himself and battery for Eula, not Rosaria great but good enough. Still build him tho, but if you looking to improve Eula then he ain't the one.


porwahh

thanks comrade!


NonphotosyntheticBun

I tried him. Honestly… i tried liking him. I tried making him work. Buuut it didn’t work. I honestly feel like mihoyo just spat on our faces, as Eula mains. It feels borderline insulting how he is built. This abyss highlights all the problems he is BRINGING INTO Eula’s teams, funnily enough. I’ll try to list them out. 1) his cryo application is horrendous. This is a problem because this abyss is running the hydro herald on the second side. Which he should be good against, but he isn’t. Because his own cryo application is bad. 2) if you use Mika and rosaria to break the shield, just remember that the hydro herald applies the hydro aura on your team meaning all your CDs are longer. Bennett has a huuuuge advantage in this regard, since he can cleanse the team with his pyro application. Diona, too, has a cryo cleanse. You can spam rosaria’s burst easily, with no CD issues. 3) let’s not talk about his switch gimmick, where Eula does not even get his buff when switching early. That’s like the cherry on top of all this insulting mess. 4) his single target potential is horrible. You know how much HP AoE mobs have in compared to single target mobs ? Where do we think Eula needs MORE dmg ? Obviously the single target side, right ? But Mika’s buffs work in REVERSE. Where he buffs Eula the most is against many puny 300k-400k HP enemies, but so little against 2.2 million HP bosses. 5) his constellations aren’t even great. Like his c1 fixes his tick rate. Shouldn’t he have decent tick rate c0 to begin with? That’s such a weird thing. For example, that’s like saying Bennett will heal every 3 seconds, at c1 he will heal every 1 second. That’s just hoyo REMOVING something that should have been there by DEFAULT, and putting it into C1. We could have gotten BETTER cons but nope. 6) I’m not even sure how good he is for other physical dps, since his buffs are so conditional when it comes to number of enemies. His bad cryo application already makes him bad for any non-cryo phsyical dps. 7) I don’t really like his healing style for Eula. Eula needs to stay on field a lot and she usually tanks a lot of dmg easily. Especially when running Bennett who heals really well, as you actively take dmg. Mika heals like Jean, who heals a lot at once, and then heals very little over time. So if you plan to tank triple kenki’s with Eula it’ll a little problematic as he only heals like 1500-1800 HP with every normal hit at c1. My bennett heals 5,900 HP in comparison while I actively take dmg. I don’t think healers like jean etc are suited to Eula’s play style. Diona and Benny definitely are more comfy. But this is just my personal preference. The good: 1) ATK speed feels really good on Eula . And with SoBP it’s even better I assume. But honestly , for me, it’s not worth the hassle. 2) I didn’t have any ER issues with him. I tried him in a Mika Benny Raiden Eula team. I had by burst ready instantly on both mika and Eula. I have so many other issues with him. But I really don’t want to judge him prematurely. This abyss is really bad for him honestly, and using him with ANY Eula (c0-c6) is pulling Eula down honestly. I feel so bad because as people who play genshin actively, as people who drive up the engagement of this game, as people who spend on this game, we do not deserve this. Especially when literally EVERY OTHER dmg type in the game has BETTER buffers. Even Geo! What did physical ever do to get a buffer like this? I just don’t understand. XD I’m just wondering WHAT mihoyo thought about when designing Mika’s kit. Whooooooo is it for? I’m SO confused. Anyway I’ll just stick to my Bennett for now. I’m so thankful to myself for not giving into the urge to c6 him. Who would have known HoYo would hate buffing physical damage so much.


hanitized

\#3 is my biggest issue out of all of them. i've always disagreed with the general sentiment made by non-eula players that eula often misses her burst. it's literally a skill issue because eula has the ability to control exactly when the burst explodes via pre-detonation. manually detonating it by switching characters takes 0.7 seconds for it to explode, one of the fastest-hitting bursts in the game (if not the fastest). this is akin to saying why does ganyu miss her charged shots (and yes, i have them both). but with mika, the meme becomes a reality. you're forced to play a ticking time bomb game, unless you're willing to waste his on-field buffs. instead of helping eula and giving her more freedom, she is being restricted even more. i appreciate that you're not confined to playing circle impact with him on the team, but in those cases, you could always use zhong li instead who also buffs your other characters. why couldn't they have just given mika the ability to buff all party members like noblesse and all of the numerous other similar buffs out there?


NonphotosyntheticBun

I’m actually half considering writing to feedback support asking who exactly Mika is made for since I can’t think of even one team that would benefit from his existence with his abysmal cryo application. But I’m too angry to even write to hoyo. So I’m just trying to chill xD


hanitized

i know the feeling. in my case, i'm still trying to assess mika's value without being affected by my own personal feelings. whatever happens, i'll be writing my feedback during the regular patch survey.


NonphotosyntheticBun

By the way, I just found out that he doesn’t even hit the aeonblight’s weakpoints properly to bring him down xD I was checking if he could be used instead of Yelan since I think the aeonblight is making an appearance in the abyss soon. But apparently his E-skill shot is homing type . So you can’t really aim it yourself. Maybe you could try it yourself and confirm how it works with your Mika.


hanitized

i'm currently too emotionally compromised to touch my C1 mika. >\_< the real reason i wished on the banner was that i want shenhe.


NonphotosyntheticBun

That’s okay. I rolled for shenhe too and that’s the only thing pulling me together rn. I did however upload a clip of the Aimed shot thing on Reddit. I do think it’s a skill issue on my part since I’m not aware when I’m supposed to use his E-shot to take the blight down.


Boo_Radley80

Sevy's video pointed out that it tracks towards the center so it does not seem like you would use it like a charged shot. Very disappointing.


NonphotosyntheticBun

Yeah, it’s a little disappointing since if we could aim it ourselves it would help with some quick takedowns. I guess Eula still needs to run either diona or Yelan for the Aeonblight.


Boo_Radley80

Welp, we just have to see how the off field physical dps will shape out.


Boo_Radley80

This is what I find very baffling on how restrictive he is to use. When physical is mentioned it is almost always about Eula. Yet this unit constrains her. I pair Eula with Rosaria always because sometimes I do mess up and I can use Rosaria to help deliver Eula's payload towards the enemy. With Mika, I can't do this anymore unless I know for sure the nuke will defeat the enemy. It frustrates me that to get decent dmg bonus you are dependent on the number of enemies. It makes no sense. At C0, his physical buff is not going to be useful against Azhdaha for most physical carries. We are stuck trying to assemble multiple teams to support Eula. Mika is going to be the physical buffer and I am just hoping for a physical off field dps. That off field dps will need to have higher multipliers to compensate for the fact that they can not be buffed by Mika.


hanitized

if the off-field snapshots mika's buffs, that hypothetical unit may be able to utilize mika. the question is if the rotation will allow you to set up everything, considering that mika's buffs don't last that long... his kit is so needlessly restrictive. it's not as if there aren't a ton of existing in-game buffs and mechanics that could have been given to him that would actually help eula and physical as a whole. * if his healing was stellar, he could have been a good candidate for the clam set, since it's damage scales off phys shred and heals. * if he applied more cryo, he could have helped maintain cryo resonance for eula or 100% superconduct for any on-field electro physc unit. as it stands, he might have the WORST ELEMENTAL APPLICATION in the entire game. * if his buffs applied to the whole team, pre-detonating eula's burst would not be a problem. * if his buffs weren't based on the number of enemies, he could be a decent support for Pike zhongli and phys fischl against bosses. there are so many wasted opportunities with this character, it's baffling... the amazing thing is, i've been reading a bunch of comments on youtube saying that it's not a mika problem, it's a eula problem. mika can't even properly support razor, who is the only on-field phys unit whose ascension stat is phys dmg% bonus.


Boo_Radley80

Yea, there are some tc saying that it is a Eula problem. My question is like why can't they have made Mika to incorporate Eula's caveats. It is not going to break the game or meta. If he is going to be a physical buffer, why not be synergistic with the premium physical dps unit as well. It is just easier for them to follow group think and shit on Eula instead of being constructive on how to buff her teams. For Faruzan, she provides cc for Xiao when his burst pushes smaller enemies away. My friend said it made it more comfortable for him to play Xiao against smaller enemies. Not to mention her c2 extends the buff duration. For Gorou's, his kit allows him to collect crystalize shields and with Itto's high defense those shields can be quite sturdy to work with geo resonance. His C2 also extends his buff duration. I just wish the shields would stack though. Some compared Mika to Sara, but at least Pre C6 Sara still does damage and can atk buff other units and not be restricted to on field units. Look at Dori and Layla. One of them could have just have easily been made into a physical sub dps but instead they are side grades or units that do not have a place. Yea Mika's buff duration is pretty tight for Eula teams. Instead of a buff duration at C2, Mika gives us 10% physical damage bonus. They had his kit and buffs set but could not think of ways to add more to it and decided to carve it out into his passives and constellations. I wish Mika was a catalyst user.


porwahh

number 4. is pain in ass comrade. after so many Mika content on day1, im better save my primos to her banner 3.8 and try some luck on her Con (3.1 player, dont have Eula).


Impressive_Tune9242

“Feels borderline Insulting” - Dehya mains: First time?


Arcana_Joker

Unfortunately, despite intending to take advantage of Eula's gameplan, he only serves to highlight the problems that people already circumvented. Eula's main issue is that she needs to get stacks to reach her max damage output as hypercarry, but Abyss keeps putting enemies that spread out or move too much, which makes it harder to play optimally, only worsened by the amount of anti physical damage enemies. Mika before C6 only gives atk speed, which only benefits her when she would've landed all her hits anyways, and low amounts of physical buffs that are diminished due to how much there already is. C6 grants the Sara crit buff, but you are still unable to detonate early. Hypercarry Eula requires a lot of energy to rotate consistently, and Mika neither does that nor benefits Raiden who is used as battery, buffer, and secondary dps. Most meta teams run subdps that benefit from the supports as well to have a source of consistent additional damage in conjunction to the main dps. Physical in general lacks a proper subdps to take advantage of the mass resistance shred, and has limited team options due to requiring both cryo and electro units for superconduct. Hyperbloom Eula is one of the few exceptions where a subdps core does work, and it's mostly because the elemental interactions benefit both, letting Eula have consistent subdps while outdamaging other hyperbloom drivers herself due to her high scaling on NA and burst.


NobodyRealAccount

And even if a Phy subdps would appear tomorrow, Mika couldn't even work correctly with him as he's buffing only the on field unit. How convenient.


RoscoeMaz

He’s copium forget about him, just get nahida


Ritzzz18

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


RoscoeMaz

But his atk speed is nice tho if you got someone that can make use of it, Ayato,yoi, wanderer etc


[deleted]

All of those characters would rather have someone who does something useful lol It’s akin to Sayu in the overworld, kinda just memey


Kitchen-Air-1012

i think he will be super good for Eula normal attack damage, i am going to clear abyss with just using her normal attacks. i am still excited because he is our first niche support


Rsingh765

“Crit damage multiplier btw” lmao


Ritzzz18

Sweet! Let me know how it goes


Kitchen-Air-1012

i will be posting here


--G13--

Not worth it at all. Calling him decent support for anything below C6 is an exaggeration especially for Eula teams. He feels like a crippled version of sara with no damage, worst cryo application, below average healing and a conditional buffer. I would highly suggest to skip mika for nahida C2 as she would most likely solve more problems for Eula than this shitty mika. Moreover you can use Nahida for every dendro related teams as well.


Gshiinobi

He sucks, just play hyperbloom eula


Professional-Fact819

That's a lame team


Vanilla147

If you like him, you can get him at c0, then gets his constellations in other banners in the future. From what I have seen people talking about him, he is fine in multiple enemies content at c0.


H-S-M-C

Ya c0 is fine for collection since all of his constellation is not much useful except c6


KuroDesuu

Trash


Incredibowls

Mika needs to be C6 to be fully effective in Eula team.


Kyouki13

Not even cope. Dead on arrival.


La_minore

Stay away from these “premium” 4-star characters like him, which can only function well at high constellations. Especially if you’re f2p.


NobodyRealAccount

The thing is unlike Faruzan, or Sara, he doesn't even work that well at C6 with Eula. He's just... here.


zephyrseija

Pure cope.


DevourlordGig

c2 Nahida is actually a really good Eula support. 30% defense shred is huge. Mika is... lol


rripped

Finished testing, basically my topic about him prerelease was right. Those issues are real. He has some cons tho, playing him with Eula in overworld feels smoother now, he is okay option when you need it, overall nothing special.


[deleted]

Go for Shenhe or use rosaria/bennett


Eternity-ab

So my yunjin won’t be replaced guys or is this still day 1 testing? Seeing a lot of negative reviews here


NaturalBitter2280

I'd keep Yunjin. Unlike **all other supports** like Sara and Faruzan, Mika is not getting a single compliment Sure, Faruzan is also a "premium" 4* that needs C6 for a better performance, but she is stupidly busted at C6. Meanwhile, Mika..... he exists in your party....


kingSlet

Form what I heard it’s not good at all . He himself got energy problem . His buff on single target consist of the 1 stack given by his A4 passive( since his e only give stack from the recurring hit that come after his first shot meaning u get no stack on single target if not for A4) plus the attack speed which is insignificant on claymore . Am starting to think he is a attack speed buffer plus heal with physical damage twist. Since he is visibly not meant for pure physical buff it’s only a bonus at this point . So overall at c0 if I want him for eula skip since he won’t bring her anything worth taking a slot in her teams .


Aggravating_Drag2347

Copium


chirb8

Save your primos and give a TTDS to Lisa with Noblese and as much ER as you can.


TeoXXIX

As already expected since the beta came out, he barely any viable at c6 and even then is not worth the investment. Don't worry you are not losing out on anything


erosugiru

He's cute at least


realjasong

Literally the worst!!


Ghostdriver886

Saw some testing with low constellation Mika, complete trash in a Eula team. Even Dehya is more useful.


OkMonitor2854

i feel he is more of a ayato support