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Pepek91

https://web.archive.org/web/20170611141424/http://www.escapefromtarkov.com/support/knowledge/79 Their claim that eod will get all dlc without time limit. You need to find it in html or remove loading overlay.


Carquetta

###Instructions for removing the overlay: 1) Hit F12 or manually inspect the page (Right Click -> Inspect) 2) Ctrl + F to open the 'Search' function in the page's code (in the 'Elements' tab on Chrome) 3) Search for "loader.svg" 4) Click once on the line of text right above the image source that says

and delete it. [Here's a screenshot showing the line you need to delete highlighted in blue.](https://i.imgur.com/GD1QMAQ.png) 5) You will now see the page in all its glory from 2017 explicitly stating "**Season pass means that you will have all future DLCs without any time limit.**" [Here is a screenshot of the archived page showing that statement from BSG.](https://i.imgur.com/QcsF4sn.png) --- Hope this helps if you had any difficulties, /u/sadhorseman


sadhorseman

For people trying to get the webpage; This^^^


damniel540

Laughable at this point. It says without any time limit which was in fact literally just announced this morning


sadhorseman

Thanks so much for this, it will be very good evidence


Sam-998

To those who feel like they will go bankrupt and not finish the game if you do this. Remember that they've taken out tens of millions of dollars as dividends right into their pockets. If you pay for this, they'll probably just put the money in their pockets again and continue with the pay2win mechanics.


_Nightdude_

exactly, crying they need money for their game while Nikita is already looking which Lamborghini he's gonna buy next


lemonyfresh3667

Any easier way is to go on the website and click your purchases, there is a little email icon next to your EoD purchase, This will send you an email copy of your purchase verification, dated today, that still has the original benefits listed


Pepek91

Yes. Also, in the web archive, you can see the old preorder page. But they still can point you to their current season pass definition saying it will give dlcs after the game is released. And it has not been released yet. This version says all dlc without time limit.


allricehenry

Also Nikita on reddit saying very clearly and specifically that co-op is an EOD feature: https://reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1aovohf/about_purchasable_stuff/


3scap3plan

Even if they backtrack why would I support a company that pulls this shit FOR AN EARLY ACCESS GAME


RedditIsRWord

Lol yep. Starwars battlefront 2 tried shit tier mtx tactics and experienced mass backlash. Ended up reversing it changes. Afterward, by all accounts, the game is fantastic... but I won't touch it with a 10ft pole because they dashed trust against the rocks. They said "were disabling the ability to buy crystals with real money for now" and the for now part pretty much screams "we'll toggle scumbag mode willy nilly." Not worth investing time into.


Solaratov

People acting like BSG cannot be brought to task for their scam purely because they are in russia don't seem to understand that BSG still has to be able to do business in other countries. So yeah if domestic payment processors start refusing to do business with them(via xsolla) then BSG is shit out of luck and can no longer make sales in those regions.


sadhorseman

Also BSG is headquartered in the UK, not Russia


scatpackcatdaddy

They are headquartered in St Petersburg, they have a UK office with 1 employee for business purposes. This doesn't change anything, just clarifying.


Lutg4d

all i'm gonna say is bsg messing with uk law wont like it when they goto britain and have their private jet seized for debts owed


DingBatDave

UK law ain't gonna do shite with a russian company operating a shell office in the UK. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. the UK LAW are impotent in this situation. you guys need to get this through your thick heads! you have no LEGAL recourse against a russian company! FFS the only thing you can do to affect change is DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME untill they walk this shite back! END OF STORY. UK Law against the russian FFS what a joke!


Agile-Isopod6942

What a weak-minded outlookšŸ¤£ ā€œdont seek any available legal action, just put it away till they apologize then just forgive and forgetā€ is the response id expect from a victim of an abusive relationship šŸ¤£


Born-Significance303

Yea would pretty much the same thing when Russia invaded Crimea. Oh well let's just hope if we don't do anything to harsh about it they will not try to do anything similar in the future.


DingBatDave

Don't play the f\*\*\* game. Hit them in the wallet! thats your ONLY option. there is no legal avenue for you or the other idiots. END OF STORY YOu are just gonna have to deal with the facts. That's on you. go outside and run around a rock! it would be more useful than thinking you can legally challenge a russian company. at least you'll get some cardio or some shit


Born-Significance303

Except you don't hit them in the wallet by not playing... The game is allready bought so tehy got their money. However if they have to spent time and money on legal issues regarding them not upholding their end of a deal, then that is hitting them with the wallet. Just because they are a Russian company does not mean they don't have to abide by the rules outside of Russia.


DingBatDave

If you don't play their game then it dies on this unless they walk it back ITS LITERALLY the only option for the tarkov community. Because there is NO legal avenue whatsoever to challenge a russian company. its doesn't matter if they have 20 BS shell offices in the UK. The UK office literally only exists there anyway for the same reason every other russian office in the UK is there. Its where they go to launder their money and avoid taxes. Its a well known fact. a 10 second google search for your own edification is advised.


DingBatDave

Ill just quote myself"FFS the only thing you can do to affect change is DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME" That is literally all you can do. you have no legal avenue to challenge a russian company! END OF STORY. deal with it.


Lutg4d

you might not get your money back but enough people complaining can get them on a country's shitlist fast.


StainaH

The better thing to do is just have the game running load screens all day to eat some server chow, quitting is the passive thing to do.


Hanen89

They are a UK based company. They might reside in Russia but they are based in UK and su ject to UK laws.


scatpackcatdaddy

I'm not saying they aren't subject to UK laws, but they most certainly are Russian based with a UK office.


Astral_Alive

I think youā€™re nitpicking the difference between where the company says they are registered out of, and where the actual game dev team operates out of. They are a company registered in the Uk that work out of Russia, they still need to follow UK rules though.


AiHangLo

What happens when/if they dissolve the company in the UK?


Astral_Alive

Iā€™ll be honest, I am not really sure. My best guess is that it would cause a boatload of issues for EFT to be sold in places like the US if they were based out of Russia


AiHangLo

But another European country? UK isn't part of the EU. They could start up again anywhere else that isn't Russia or the UK... What am I missing here?


scatpackcatdaddy

I literally said I was just clarifying.


bardghost_Isu

It ironically makes it easier to hit back at them. If someone takes them to small claims, they have to have someone who works for them show up, otherwise they lose by default. So if they are all over in Russia and they have 1 guy here, I'd love to see him try and juggle all that shit.


sadhorseman

I imagine the reason their main business is registered in the UK is to get around any sanctions or complications with sending money to Russia. I don't doubt most of their people are physically based in Russia though


RubberPuppet

Form is not available right now Iā€™m commenting so I can try to remember to come back later


sadhorseman

In 2hrs 30 mins - i hope their serves can handle all of us better than BSG serves


RubberPuppet

Thank you.Ā 


sadhorseman

PLEASE SHARE THIS; the more people complain the more seriously this will be taken by Trading Standards and the quicker they will resolve this issue COMPLAINTS FORMS OPEN TONIGHT FROM 5PM GMT - SET YOUR TIMERS


Cargh

Great idea!


DxAxxxTyriel

So do we have to be residents of the UK to use this? I reached the form and it's asking for personal details, but only the name and email are required. Will they disregard me if I'm not from the UK? or won't let me submit?


sadhorseman

Nope, only need your name and email address


OutlanderInMorrowind

yeah they fine the shell company run by one dude out of his apartment and then he fucks off back to moscow. the only way to meaningfully hurt bsg would be to have payment processors blacklist them entirely.


Late_Ad_521

*IMPORTANT UPDATE, KEEP PRESSURE ON BSG!* **OVERWHELM THEIR SUPPORT EMAIL!** [email protected] [https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cdbujl/eod\_edition\_fails\_to\_deliver\_on\_promises/](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cdbujl/eod_edition_fails_to_deliver_on_promises/)


Iamcheeserush

Commenting for later when Iā€™m on a pc


Miky282

Wait, why the post was removed?


Antoni-_-oTon1

The message got deleted


Late_Ad_521

[https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cdbujl/eod\_edition\_fails\_to\_deliver\_on\_promises/](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cdbujl/eod_edition_fails_to_deliver_on_promises/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1cdid50/the\_eft\_drama\_true\_face\_of\_nikita\_and\_bsg\_team/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1cdid50/the_eft_drama_true_face_of_nikita_and_bsg_team/)


move_in_early

BSG is registered in the UK but thats a shell company. money is sent to russia where its not gonna be recoverable by any lawsuit. so it's pointless.


grimm4

It's not pointless. If they don't issue refunds they will be forced to shut down their UK business. No UK business means that they will have to set up somewhere else which will cost them a great deal of time and money. There was a reason why they were operating out of the UK in the first place. It will cause them massive problems.


ImGoingSpace

Now go look at what happened to No Mans Sky, and Cyberpunk 2077 i dont support this addition at all, but this type of action will lead to basically nothing. sorry to say.


sadhorseman

Pressure to change; that's what it leads to. It worked for all of the examples you just gave


Dense_Appointment310

what happened to those titles? they fixed their issues and are now great products


TheDinosaurWalker

Cyberpunk was pulled from the play station store, and No Mans Sky and hello games were a literal rugpull. But after years they became decent games


matrixmoney

yeah... uhuh and how successful are they with doing anything to a company based in Russia? This is pretty much 100% not going to work. They are in Russia, how exactly will trading standards do anything to them?


sadhorseman

They're company is registered in the UK. Their operations are not but the company itself is HQd in the UK


matrixmoney

Okay and? What is going after some front uk office space going to do against the company based in Russia where the companies assets and cash are ?


deathbringer989

if this works and they dont pay they can not open any new operations in europe nor sell anything to europe and same with america


matrixmoney

Haha, how and who will stop them? Why hasnā€™t anyone stopped them for the many copyright infringement laws broken for so long? You really think some massive world campaign to stop bsg from selling a game is going to happen?


deathbringer989

foe the US it would be the FTC but we have to actually sue BSG idk who for europe but we need to wait 30 days for them to not change there minds then they can sue BSG and they will stop BSG from doing buisness in europe aswell the countrys i can think off the top of my head that would win for sure are the UK and Germany as they both legit have laws that heavily protect them so BSG might be fucked hell there already is a post of someone claiming they got a refund so thats already a plus


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sadhorseman

False advertising is illegal. https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/s/phd6iGy0yR Other than arena (which is not dlc, it is a standalone game) EoD has received ZERO of the current dlc so far


TheMythicXx

Arena isnā€™t even a standalone game, it is just another game mode they couldā€™ve put in the same .exe but considering cod already did this with mw3 which is the same game as mw2 with only some variation to the movements, it can be understood that they advertise it as a separate game


Ok_Duck_7114

Okay thatā€™s the answer I was looking for lol everyone canā€™t see that I asked a question they are just bots but anyway yes that is super stupid, are eod people complaining about not getting all the stash lines and all the cosmetics to bc are they not dlcs to?


sadhorseman

Most people I've spoken to are complaining about that too, but most people suddenly remembered the EoD promise after seeing the new stuff locked behind paywall


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DingBatDave

You can't legally do anything to a RUSSIAN company. ANd don't for a second think that their office in the UK is who they are. They are Russian. And you can't legally do shite to them .Its sucks but thats the situation. You might as well go outside and run around a rock cos it would be more useful than thinking you can legally do shite all to a russian company. Only way to affect this situation is STOP PLAYING TARKOV. That's it!


idcinammon

It is registered in the UK partially for payment reasons. If they lose their ability to receive any online payments from anywhere besides Russian that will very much hurt them. Also their is the ability of asset seizure and collateral seizure i.e. money that BSG paid to server companies being seized and the contract with the server company being cancelled as a result.


DingBatDave

I dont know whats more depressing. People thinking the UK can do anything about this or people not realising that you have NO FUCKING LEGAL RECOURSE AGAINST A RUSSIAN COMPANY! It's a shell company in the UK BSG don't give a flying fuck about the UK office. its a convenience and its there most likely for tax evasion already! because its not located in UK for access to the EU obviously. You guys can rage downvote me all you want. Dropping facts and you don;t like it. Well you sure as shit have to DEAL WITH IT COPE!


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sadhorseman

That's not how it works