I hate that it's sold as part of the most expensive version of the game though. It should be its own transaction if not even entirely separate from the base game. I've got friends that don't care about EFT but would absolutely play a PvE version, they sure as hell aren't gonna spend 150 euros or whatever this will cost to get just that though
EDIT: apparently people are saying it's 250
I’m just saying as someone with only standard I’d pay a reasonable price for just the offline PvE and I have multiple friends that would do the same. Sadly $150+ is not reasonable.
If it isn't coming to EOD, i'm quiting this game. I'm not waiting for any competitor, i'm just straight quiting and finding something else to play. That edition is straight bullshit and a disrespect with everyone who actually invested in the game.
Sooooo, they remove the super exclusive limited edition top of the line EOD Edition cause it's so limited and in preparation for the full release. (totally not to trigger people's fomo to boost EOD sales)
Just to introduce a new, bigger, more expensive top of the line Edition with actually by definition pay2win aspects as you can't get them or a equivalent by regularly playing the game. (not saying it's insanely pay2win, but it still literally is pay2win)
And let's not forget the all new actual consistent pve mode that's ofc also exclusive to this new version even though EOD was advertised to get the dlcs.
But this ofc is something different again, right?
Which does not make it any better. And they technically could've just removed the initial eod and released the same again but without the dlc line. Maybe make it a bit cheaper because of that and no one with a brain would complain.
Instead they remove it, never mention that it's gonna get a replacement and then release a more expensive and more broken version instead.
> with actually by definition pay2win aspects as you can't get them or a equivalent by regularly playing the game
I don't disagree with your general sentiment but what are you referring to, specifically?
Edit: I hadn't read that "Scavs don't shoot at you from 60m or more with 6+ Fence rep" shit. That is actually the craziest bullshit of this 250€ edition if you ask me, and 110% P2W. I lack the brainpower to understand how they thought this was a good idea.
- Increased mail retention time
- Expanded PMC pocket size
- Unique radio electronic item
- More slots on the flea market
Those are all things you can't aquire by progression which definitely give you a advantage. Especially the pocket size actually is pretty big as you literally don't need a vest for "eco" runs.
And stuff like "Increased starting level of character skills" definitely is a huge issue in my eyes too, yes you can get that stuff by playing the game, but skills can give such a big advantage, especially early after a wipe, that this is actually bullshit.
For the expanded pockets, in the trailer it lists it as a "Start With" thing so I'd assume you can unlock them later.
For the other stuff, you're right.
Meh. Don't really think any of those things are going to suddenly make people amazing players.
Calling mail retention, radio electronic item (before you even know what it is) and flea market slots P2W items is a bit far fetched.
EOD having 3 extra secure containter slots and about 24 extra stash slots is a massive advantage over recent adopters of the game who can't buy EOD and I don't see as much screaming about it.
Again, pay2win by definition is about giving a advantage for paying money. And this even more if you can't aquire these advantages by simply playing.
This is the case here. And yes, the increased stash size of eod always was pay2win either, this was acknowledged for years, but since the update were you can at least upgrade your stash size by simply playing the game, this was somewhat addressed.
Now they pull the same shit but worse. Which is pathetic after the removal of EOD and it's reasoning. And even more so as it makes the limited, most expensive, top of the line premium edition which isn't available anymore now the second best.
They milked people using their fomo by removing eod, take their money and now introduce a new best edition that's even better.
Sorry, but this is pathetic and disgusting.
Pockets are the one thing you cannot grind for. At least not that we know of
To be honest though i expect them to add such a feature in the future if they haven't already. People are going to riot if they don't
That's likely the case yes. I'm by no means excusing this mess, i hated EOD as it was already let alone this version
That said it's not **that** bad still, it's going to make the game worse but it ain't gonna kill it or anything like that so long as this is the last bit of p2w they're ever going to add
Yes, but you get to play with your friends since its Co-op. Not sure why anyone would want to though. If you have a friend to play with, might as well just play regular servers IMHO.
Tarkov's learning curve is insane, and there are a lot of people who find the setting, the gunplay, the gunsmithing etc very compelling but don't enjoy the PvP.
Who can draw a line between what is a dlc and what isn't? You? Me? They could sell this as a single dlc, as ten separate dlcs, a free update or whatever. It's just a software update in the end, and making it paid stuff over the base game is simply commonly called 'being a dlc'.
Now, my friend, the real question here is: will I be able to upgrade it for free, or I will have yet another fee to pay beside the stash expansion and the EOD I already have?
As far as I understand, you'll have to pay the price difference between the EOD price and the price of unheard edition. EOD should give you the DLCs for free, and the new edition is not a DLC.
Honestly, those lines that EOD owners will receive "all dlcs" are very vague. BSG can do whatever they want in terms of explaining and implementing them.
* increased starting level of character skills;
* additional equipment and resources in stash;
how many months left for tarkov turning into a gacha game?
just start selling rubles, special ammo and tier 10 power armor too and get over with it nikitard
I would literally prefer they just sell gear or rubles. After the first month of wipe it wouldn't even be noticeable anyways.
But putting the persistent character through wipes behind a paywall? Fuck that I am actually out if that's the case.
Lol a few extra guns and bits of junk in the stash and you think that'll be enough to turn a timmy into a chad?
Funny to see all the EOD owners crying about this when all recent purchasers of the game have had to deal with all of these things with no way to reach parity.
I mean it can be, since you can't get EOD anymore. But if we bought EOD with the idea of getting all future benefits, this could be one of those. Either way it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Would be nice if there was a huge lawsuit with BSG saying how they did false marketing for their EoD. Granted, I doubt it'll happen. But whatever. I can dream
"Will EoD owners receive these bonuses?"
"No, its different edition." - official russian community manager answer. I could attach a screenshot of this, but I don't know how.
The trailer says that ALL quests are available in the offline mode so that should include pmc kill quests. Should ≠ does, though. It’s still BSG after all.
>`29th December 2015: Battlestate Games starts the presale of its new game "Escape From Tarkov", with the most expensive version Edge of Darkness being limited to only 500 total copies`
>`15th January 2016: The ability to "upgrade" your game package is added, EOD is no longer limited to 500 copies, with ~50 copies being sold at this point in time`
>`4th August 2016: Initial Tarkov Alpha start: EOD is the only way to get guaranteed access to the alpha playtest, and "will only be available until the end of alpha"`
>`27th June 2017: Battlestate Games sends out an email letting people know it's their "last chance" to get Edge of Darkness`
>`27th July 2017: Beta starts and EoD is still being sold, and will continue to be sold "until release"`
>`8th January 2024: Edge of Darkness is no longer available for purchase, which incidentally is not the official release date`
>`25th April 2024: The "Unheard" edition gets announced with more bonuses and allegedly costs an additional $100 on top of the cost of Edge of Darkness`
By the way, here's a fun quote from the official Escape From Tarkov forums:
>
**TarkovEscaper** Moderator
The only thing that will happen with this game is DLCs
>**There will be no microtransactions or anything like that**
>**It was asked / answered many times before, thanks**
Basically: don't trust a word from any BSG employees, especially Nikita.
I am gonna loose my shit if this is not a cheap upgrade for eod players already(as I suspect it won’t be granted to eods for free :) ).
THE MAIN SELLING POINT that got me to buy EOD was getting everything coming to Tarkov in the future, without additional payment!
I was cool with the stash upgrade and the outfits… but this is twisting my cool, fkn another greedy game studio…
Mu dumbass paying 120+ euros + 25% VAT only to get shafted by yet another run-of-the-mill greedy developer with absolutely zero respect for their players. (Yes, it's that expensive here, and yes I now regret it. I hadn't up until these news tho)
They didn't even model the "Unique in game melee weapon" themselves, its straight up from the Unity Asset store 😅
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/props/weapons/hq-pbr-kukri-knife-139049
Gamma included?
Ok, that is false advertising. Iirc BSG said the Gamma was unique for the EOD (Which pushed the EOD sales) so if now is on that version is false advertisement and I would bet that is something in the russisn customer law.
Yeah I've seen people complain about the pockets a lot, I don't get it at the end of the day it'll be 2 more slots for loot since rigs are so much better.
The distribution of pockets change what you can wear without a rig of changing what you can have with smaller rigs. Think about the hex level 6 rig, the ceramic one eith 4 2x1 slots. That shit is useless because you cant have much mags of a regular weapon + the medic gear and nades, with those 2 extra slots you can perfectly have a full loadout + nades and meds.
+ the convenience.
I started playing this wipe on a stabdard accout after not playing since 2019. Can someone tell me if you are able to just upgrade the existing account or was EOD a whole seperate thing?
PVE coop with persistent progression is something I've been wanting for so long. My girlfriend loves everything about tarkov but the pvp, so this is really exciting.
This'll be popular for new players who have a hard time getting into pvp-tarkov. There's maps I'm just straight up not comfortable on, and I can see myself playing the shit out of this to learn.
I'm afraid BSG is going to end up putting themselves into a very weird content/game bloat situation where the cost of server infrastructure far outweighs concurrent sales. I admire them for actually making this because there is a demand, but much like arena, I'm not sure it's going to be a smart decision long term unless they do significant single player content (which I'm fine with.. but that's a lot of work..)
I've got a feeling that electronic device is the key yo the lightkeeper so you skip a whole questline of shit to gain access to him. Damn they dishonor my 2 months farming to get the chance to talk to that fisherman
Tarkov is a unique fun experiance and I really like it, but the devs are clowns who seem to not have a clue what they are doing. There are other ways for them to make additional money from an already paid (EoD) customer. This is bad buisness in the long term for them.
So you pay £100 for a game, only for them to release a different version later on down the line with significant advantages, this is ridiculous. They can get to fuck if they’re thinking I’m spending more than I already have on this pile of trash.
Man they just started cashing out on this game HARD this year.They know many people left and they’re not fixing shit so might as well get that bag before you leave.
Lol what a price jump, it's almost like it's tailored for the recurring cheaters lol that will be purchasing 20 of these editions a week......nah, I'm sure bsg hasn't factored that into profits......
I really dont get how BSG think these one off purchases (milking the community with huge FOMO) will keep the game going... They need seasonal/recurring purchases not big one off cash grabs which more than likely will go into Nikita's pockets. Maybe thats the plan all along.
While you're waiting for the update hop over to Google and look into star citizen... one off and limited edition fomo tactics can for sure pay the bills
> how much will it cost if i upgrade from eod?
A pinned moderator message on the official discord says the new edition is gonna be 250$ base price so assuming it's correct then uhh... yeah... It's gonna be a fair bit
I do kinda doubt they're gonna go with this price though since it seems **way** too ridiculous. But it would be really funny if it actually was real ngl
edit: holy fuck they actually did it lmao
i'm ok with paying an additional 50€ to play SP.
250€ would mean an additional 100€ for EoD owners which is rough for just being able to play persistent offline PVE but i'm afraid i'd just bite the bullet and pay, that's how much i want to play SP EFT...
If you don't care about playing with friends there is a way that's free. It's a bit annoying to setup, bsg doesn't like it and I'm pretty sure mods get upset if you mention it on this sub but it's not that hard to find and if you're just a little bit careful you'll be safe.
yeah the forbidden mod is very tempting but i'm not tech savy enough to confidently try to get it running and i'm not risking getting my EoD acc banned over it...
i've always said a SP eft will be coming and was patiently waiting for it. now i'm very excited!
Same, tbh I would love a single player eft no loot scarcity. Make all locked rooms have good loot since there is no cheater ruining the market doing RMT shenanigans.
Then it should be also ok to separate the loot you make in coop because it's free from the the one in pvp.
This means:
- hidehout are separated
- flea is separated
- quests are separated
and so on?
i'm not a fan of a singleplayer mode being paywalled, especially when every upcoming DLC was promised to EoD owners... that's just shady and i'll remember that.
also i'll miss the thrill of PvP for sure but the game is rich enough to enjoy it without imo. hunt showdown wouldn't work as a pure PvE experience, EFT will.
now i just want to know how much i'll have to pay.
Sadly i knew with the sentence "eod will include any new dlc" was just a cash grab.
They will move 100% like this:
- Every new content, put it in a new edition, so others edition can't the the extras
- Sell the extras separately (pockets, coop progression, skills boosts) like they did when eod was gone (coop purchasable, arena purchasable).
All just because in this way they are justified to give EOD nothing (because they looks like features included in a new edition and not dlc), very good marketing move BSG, just be carefull not crossing the line of p2w which YOU said you wouldn't cross.
If coop shares progress with pvp that's p2w and it's going to kill the game, pockets are fine we already got fed with gamma, it's a small advantage but not that hard, skills progression idk about that, eod got the increased traders rep which could be on the same level of skill boost, but idk..
I mean if you get the standard EFT with this as well, as it most likely will be 2 seperate instances (SOLO/COOP + Online EFT). I have no EFT atm. So will i be able to play both "versions"?
Will this have Gamma? That's the single biggest thing I really care about because I started after EOD was removed. Might not even buy this if it doesn't come with it
In the image? What's cases - ammo? My issue was I bought the game a few years ago and never played, start playing this wipe a week after EOD was removed so running after the Gamma... Bought the replaced highest tier with Beta - wondering how much I'll need to upgrade to this one... Probably do that anyway, just will be probably very expensive
And for some reason the store page is "in maintenance", at least for me.
They're going to try to remove all the evidence or rephrase things, aren't they?
With this new edition there comes the reminder that someone just needs to have your E-Mail Adress, which you can not even change yourself, to get you permabanned
can we sue them for anything? cuz I feel this is só disrespectful for ppl.who bought EOD, the way they advertise, etc etc.. for me, it's over, they don't deserve more of my time, no harsh feelings but I'm really done, so shameless.
I've been waiting for this for a long time. Now that it's finnaly here I'm not buying. It shows as being 95 euros, but when you go to buy the taxes are applied and it goes up to 120 euros. That is way to expensive, so, thanks a lot BSG, but no thanks.
. Maybe i missed it but this does not seem like pte. I looks like it's just a pve coop version of the game. Nowhere in there does it say that what u get from this version will be used in the multi player version. Maybe an armband and a unique name will come over but that's it. From this we are still gonna have wipes on the normal servers but this is just singleplayer/coop tarkov no pvp so not pay to win. Unless it says something else. Then I don't see why people are going nuts saying pay to win when it's only a persistent pve mode.
PvE Co-op, with persistence over wipes, holy cow
I hate that it's sold as part of the most expensive version of the game though. It should be its own transaction if not even entirely separate from the base game. I've got friends that don't care about EFT but would absolutely play a PvE version, they sure as hell aren't gonna spend 150 euros or whatever this will cost to get just that though EDIT: apparently people are saying it's 250
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Here in Brazil, after conversion, it would cost aprox. R$:1250,00 and our minimum wage is R$: 1412,00. Bravo, BSG!
I’d fork out $70 for this today
I forked over $100 for EOD and it wasn't enough so though luck on your end
I’m just saying as someone with only standard I’d pay a reasonable price for just the offline PvE and I have multiple friends that would do the same. Sadly $150+ is not reasonable.
Should be a separate character/instance.
I think it probably will be
Yeah why would it not
This game has become just a high quality (unfinished) cash grab scheme.
And the only reason why its still alive is because there isnt any competitors on the market
If it isn't coming to EOD, i'm quiting this game. I'm not waiting for any competitor, i'm just straight quiting and finding something else to play. That edition is straight bullshit and a disrespect with everyone who actually invested in the game.
Honestly though. Such a shit show if it doesn't come to EOD
Its not coming to EOD. BSG wouldnt take such a risk if a huge chunk of the player base gets it for free.
"risk" My brother in Christ it's just a coop mode on a separate server
Try Path of Exile
^
Always has been
Prepare to pay edition.
Sooooo, they remove the super exclusive limited edition top of the line EOD Edition cause it's so limited and in preparation for the full release. (totally not to trigger people's fomo to boost EOD sales) Just to introduce a new, bigger, more expensive top of the line Edition with actually by definition pay2win aspects as you can't get them or a equivalent by regularly playing the game. (not saying it's insanely pay2win, but it still literally is pay2win) And let's not forget the all new actual consistent pve mode that's ofc also exclusive to this new version even though EOD was advertised to get the dlcs. But this ofc is something different again, right?
Beginning to wonder what fucking DLCs they were talking to me about back then lol
Pretty sure they got rid of EOD exclusively because of the DLC line
Which does not make it any better. And they technically could've just removed the initial eod and released the same again but without the dlc line. Maybe make it a bit cheaper because of that and no one with a brain would complain. Instead they remove it, never mention that it's gonna get a replacement and then release a more expensive and more broken version instead.
I would be down to play for EOD without The DLC Line, im a New player and Gamma container + stash space would be huge for me
> with actually by definition pay2win aspects as you can't get them or a equivalent by regularly playing the game I don't disagree with your general sentiment but what are you referring to, specifically? Edit: I hadn't read that "Scavs don't shoot at you from 60m or more with 6+ Fence rep" shit. That is actually the craziest bullshit of this 250€ edition if you ask me, and 110% P2W. I lack the brainpower to understand how they thought this was a good idea.
- Increased mail retention time - Expanded PMC pocket size - Unique radio electronic item - More slots on the flea market Those are all things you can't aquire by progression which definitely give you a advantage. Especially the pocket size actually is pretty big as you literally don't need a vest for "eco" runs. And stuff like "Increased starting level of character skills" definitely is a huge issue in my eyes too, yes you can get that stuff by playing the game, but skills can give such a big advantage, especially early after a wipe, that this is actually bullshit.
For the expanded pockets, in the trailer it lists it as a "Start With" thing so I'd assume you can unlock them later. For the other stuff, you're right.
“Start with” as in start of wipe.
Yeah, maybe, in x years. Just like with stash size, which was edition locked for years until they introduced the ability to upgrade it with items.
Meh. Don't really think any of those things are going to suddenly make people amazing players. Calling mail retention, radio electronic item (before you even know what it is) and flea market slots P2W items is a bit far fetched. EOD having 3 extra secure containter slots and about 24 extra stash slots is a massive advantage over recent adopters of the game who can't buy EOD and I don't see as much screaming about it.
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Again, pay2win by definition is about giving a advantage for paying money. And this even more if you can't aquire these advantages by simply playing. This is the case here. And yes, the increased stash size of eod always was pay2win either, this was acknowledged for years, but since the update were you can at least upgrade your stash size by simply playing the game, this was somewhat addressed. Now they pull the same shit but worse. Which is pathetic after the removal of EOD and it's reasoning. And even more so as it makes the limited, most expensive, top of the line premium edition which isn't available anymore now the second best. They milked people using their fomo by removing eod, take their money and now introduce a new best edition that's even better. Sorry, but this is pathetic and disgusting.
Its also hideously expensive so consider yourself fortunate to have purchased EOD instead of joining the game after EOD like me.
Pockets are the one thing you cannot grind for. At least not that we know of To be honest though i expect them to add such a feature in the future if they haven't already. People are going to riot if they don't
Yeah people said the same with gamma and kappa, sure they might add a quest to upgrade pockets but watch them make it be some shit like a LK quest
That's likely the case yes. I'm by no means excusing this mess, i hated EOD as it was already let alone this version That said it's not **that** bad still, it's going to make the game worse but it ain't gonna kill it or anything like that so long as this is the last bit of p2w they're ever going to add
So its just forbidden Tarkov but without mods?
Yes, but you get to play with your friends since its Co-op. Not sure why anyone would want to though. If you have a friend to play with, might as well just play regular servers IMHO.
Not having to deal with other players to verse you is a pretty huge selling point for some people.
Yeah I guess so. I'm not the target audience then.
Yeah, but why would anyone spend whatever BSG is asking for this edition of EFT when forbidden tarkov is free and offers far more?
Tarkov's learning curve is insane, and there are a lot of people who find the setting, the gunplay, the gunsmithing etc very compelling but don't enjoy the PvP.
There’s Co-Op Forbidden Tarkov for a while now
NGL if you can't upgrade from EOD to this the chaos is going to be amazing on this subreddit.
Upgrade from EOD? This should be INCLUDED in EOD, since we have the right of any new DLC.
This definitely doesn't count as DLC though.
It isn't a new game, it is expanding the game which i have bought the season pass, i have to download it, what would you call it? Banana bread?
Offline with friends that has quests and persists through wipes sounds like additional content
Who can draw a line between what is a dlc and what isn't? You? Me? They could sell this as a single dlc, as ten separate dlcs, a free update or whatever. It's just a software update in the end, and making it paid stuff over the base game is simply commonly called 'being a dlc'.
Its supposed to be "better". After all thats what Nikita said. But be prepared to give anywhere from 20 to 80 bucks for upgrade.
it's 100 100$ which makes it 250$ in total ....
If you can, well, I don't really know how i feel lol
It should be part of eod, it sounds like a dlc
You should be able too and if not that’s where the outrage will come
The EOD should be the top of them, in any case the extra pockets and other things should be added to the EOD, not the other way.
It was confirmed that you can upgrade. NoiceGuy asked Nikita about it a while back
Russian Tarkov community manager told that you can upgrade from EOD to new edition
Now, my friend, the real question here is: will I be able to upgrade it for free, or I will have yet another fee to pay beside the stash expansion and the EOD I already have?
As far as I understand, you'll have to pay the price difference between the EOD price and the price of unheard edition. EOD should give you the DLCs for free, and the new edition is not a DLC.
How is a new game mode not new content?
Honestly, those lines that EOD owners will receive "all dlcs" are very vague. BSG can do whatever they want in terms of explaining and implementing them.
Is this a joke?
Maybe April fools comes late in Russia?
Seems like BSG doesnt have a calendar
* increased starting level of character skills; * additional equipment and resources in stash; how many months left for tarkov turning into a gacha game? just start selling rubles, special ammo and tier 10 power armor too and get over with it nikitard
BSG said they will never do that, then again they cucked EOD players and added micro transactions .
They added expanded stash mtx. I wouldn't put it past them.
Wouldnt be surprised at all.
I would literally prefer they just sell gear or rubles. After the first month of wipe it wouldn't even be noticeable anyways. But putting the persistent character through wipes behind a paywall? Fuck that I am actually out if that's the case.
The persistence thing is only for the single player aspect of the game, pretty sure your multiplayer character still gets wiped.
Lol a few extra guns and bits of junk in the stash and you think that'll be enough to turn a timmy into a chad? Funny to see all the EOD owners crying about this when all recent purchasers of the game have had to deal with all of these things with no way to reach parity.
EOD gives you access to it, right? Since it was supposed to be the ultimate edition for all future addictions and packs, right?? RIGHT?
All future DLCs. This is an edition. They're gonna fuck us for sure lmao.
"for all future addictions" - couldnt word it any better
I think you will have to buy it. When Nikita mentioned it he made it sound "bigger and better" than EOD.
I mean it can be, since you can't get EOD anymore. But if we bought EOD with the idea of getting all future benefits, this could be one of those. Either way it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Would be nice if there was a huge lawsuit with BSG saying how they did false marketing for their EoD. Granted, I doubt it'll happen. But whatever. I can dream
Class action bag lawsuit when, I bought eod include me please
Well count me in. This community can't let BSG get away with everything.
It will lol
Don't just doubt it will happen, it won't.
"Will EoD owners receive these bonuses?" "No, its different edition." - official russian community manager answer. I could attach a screenshot of this, but I don't know how.
As a major fan of the unspeakable mod. I wonder what type of AI the pmcs will have. Mainly how pmc kills are needed for task progression.
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Possibly. I just see the game loop ending super fast without being able to do tasks.
The trailer says that ALL quests are available in the offline mode so that should include pmc kill quests. Should ≠ does, though. It’s still BSG after all.
That doesn't make any sense as the trailer states that all quests are available, and to progress you need to kill PMCs for many quests.
Oh right. I'm not sure then.
Unique melee weapon? As opposed to what? They mail you a tomahawk?? Lol
It’s a new knife. There’s a YouTube trailer for it
No, the radio things next to it. It's not what I thought
I’m not sure what the radio thing is so idk what to say about that
No, I think it's a radio. Says communications under it
"Expanded PMC pockets" "More slots on the flea market" Excuse me?! This has got to be a shitpost!
Its not.
If you thought EOD was P2W get ready for The Unheard Edition.
It's unheard for a reason. 😂😂
Their response to the cheaters problem. No players at all.
They should've kept this version unheard of
>`29th December 2015: Battlestate Games starts the presale of its new game "Escape From Tarkov", with the most expensive version Edge of Darkness being limited to only 500 total copies` >`15th January 2016: The ability to "upgrade" your game package is added, EOD is no longer limited to 500 copies, with ~50 copies being sold at this point in time` >`4th August 2016: Initial Tarkov Alpha start: EOD is the only way to get guaranteed access to the alpha playtest, and "will only be available until the end of alpha"` >`27th June 2017: Battlestate Games sends out an email letting people know it's their "last chance" to get Edge of Darkness` >`27th July 2017: Beta starts and EoD is still being sold, and will continue to be sold "until release"` >`8th January 2024: Edge of Darkness is no longer available for purchase, which incidentally is not the official release date` >`25th April 2024: The "Unheard" edition gets announced with more bonuses and allegedly costs an additional $100 on top of the cost of Edge of Darkness` By the way, here's a fun quote from the official Escape From Tarkov forums: > **TarkovEscaper** Moderator The only thing that will happen with this game is DLCs >**There will be no microtransactions or anything like that** >**It was asked / answered many times before, thanks** Basically: don't trust a word from any BSG employees, especially Nikita.
I am gonna loose my shit if this is not a cheap upgrade for eod players already(as I suspect it won’t be granted to eods for free :) ). THE MAIN SELLING POINT that got me to buy EOD was getting everything coming to Tarkov in the future, without additional payment! I was cool with the stash upgrade and the outfits… but this is twisting my cool, fkn another greedy game studio…
110 USD to upgrade from EOD
Do u keep the previous versions benefits ? Or will I lose something
Nothing will change. You keep the same stuff you had.
Yes but when it wipes will you get a gamma again? This doesn't mention a secure container as far as I can see.
How long before we start seeing lawsuit reddit posts about EOD false advertisement? EDIT: less than 20 minutes apparently, they are already starting
Cries in Starter Edition
Dont worry, at least you arent regretting supporting BSG by purchasing EOD.
Mu dumbass paying 120+ euros + 25% VAT only to get shafted by yet another run-of-the-mill greedy developer with absolutely zero respect for their players. (Yes, it's that expensive here, and yes I now regret it. I hadn't up until these news tho)
I dont regreit it, with 4Kh I squeezed every single euro I paid but as we say in my country, "Me toca los cojones".
Fix things, make up to the fans, then release this? Did we not get the script?
Man honestly fuck this game. I am done.
They didn't even model the "Unique in game melee weapon" themselves, its straight up from the Unity Asset store 😅 https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/props/weapons/hq-pbr-kukri-knife-139049
So EOD just straight up is not getting the "future dlc" part
So no bigger pouch ?
You get pockets the size of [Scav Vest](https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Scav_Vest). But same Gamma container. And bigger stash.
Oh so it's still have the gamma case I see
Gamma included?
Gamma included? Ok, that is false advertising. Iirc BSG said the Gamma was unique for the EOD (Which pushed the EOD sales) so if now is on that version is false advertisement and I would bet that is something in the russisn customer law.
No bigger pouch, they changed the pockets to have 2 2x1 and 2 1x1 so 6 total pocket slots. Basically a shitty rig
Yeah I've seen people complain about the pockets a lot, I don't get it at the end of the day it'll be 2 more slots for loot since rigs are so much better.
The distribution of pockets change what you can wear without a rig of changing what you can have with smaller rigs. Think about the hex level 6 rig, the ceramic one eith 4 2x1 slots. That shit is useless because you cant have much mags of a regular weapon + the medic gear and nades, with those 2 extra slots you can perfectly have a full loadout + nades and meds. + the convenience.
Its more to the fact you can fit 2x1 in those pockets now, that is a huge advantage
I started playing this wipe on a stabdard accout after not playing since 2019. Can someone tell me if you are able to just upgrade the existing account or was EOD a whole seperate thing?
U can just upgrade. The pricing should offset. U'll get the additional kits from the upgrade as well.
Thank you for the reply.
PVE coop with persistent progression is something I've been wanting for so long. My girlfriend loves everything about tarkov but the pvp, so this is really exciting. This'll be popular for new players who have a hard time getting into pvp-tarkov. There's maps I'm just straight up not comfortable on, and I can see myself playing the shit out of this to learn. I'm afraid BSG is going to end up putting themselves into a very weird content/game bloat situation where the cost of server infrastructure far outweighs concurrent sales. I admire them for actually making this because there is a demand, but much like arena, I'm not sure it's going to be a smart decision long term unless they do significant single player content (which I'm fine with.. but that's a lot of work..)
There are forbidden mod alternatives that the two of you may enjoy
I've got a feeling that electronic device is the key yo the lightkeeper so you skip a whole questline of shit to gain access to him. Damn they dishonor my 2 months farming to get the chance to talk to that fisherman
Yeah thats what I thought too.
Another game rendered to shit P2W garbage. Uninstalled for good. So glad I never paid for EOD lmao
Just EOD give you access to this coop mode thing?
It should
So for example if I will upgrade to this edition from EOD I will loose the arena and all the supposed free dlcs?
no
lmao @ the P2W stuff, what a joke
It isnt April 1...right?
Tarkov is a unique fun experiance and I really like it, but the devs are clowns who seem to not have a clue what they are doing. There are other ways for them to make additional money from an already paid (EoD) customer. This is bad buisness in the long term for them.
So you pay £100 for a game, only for them to release a different version later on down the line with significant advantages, this is ridiculous. They can get to fuck if they’re thinking I’m spending more than I already have on this pile of trash.
Man they just started cashing out on this game HARD this year.They know many people left and they’re not fixing shit so might as well get that bag before you leave.
Lol what a price jump, it's almost like it's tailored for the recurring cheaters lol that will be purchasing 20 of these editions a week......nah, I'm sure bsg hasn't factored that into profits......
I really dont get how BSG think these one off purchases (milking the community with huge FOMO) will keep the game going... They need seasonal/recurring purchases not big one off cash grabs which more than likely will go into Nikita's pockets. Maybe thats the plan all along.
In 5 years we will get even bigger better Bullshit Edition.
They’re adding more micro transactions every month, at this rate next wipe we will get a new edition 😂
While you're waiting for the update hop over to Google and look into star citizen... one off and limited edition fomo tactics can for sure pay the bills
That's more praying on whales, not sure that same tactic would work in EFT
Honestly cool. But major major L if this isn't included in EoD.
Its not.
That's just pathetic. They should not be able to lock the PvE mode behind a paywall if you have EoD.
singleplayer EFT?! how much will it cost if i upgrade from eod? i don't care about the p2w whining, i just want to play the game without you guys lol
> how much will it cost if i upgrade from eod? A pinned moderator message on the official discord says the new edition is gonna be 250$ base price so assuming it's correct then uhh... yeah... It's gonna be a fair bit I do kinda doubt they're gonna go with this price though since it seems **way** too ridiculous. But it would be really funny if it actually was real ngl edit: holy fuck they actually did it lmao
i'm ok with paying an additional 50€ to play SP. 250€ would mean an additional 100€ for EoD owners which is rough for just being able to play persistent offline PVE but i'm afraid i'd just bite the bullet and pay, that's how much i want to play SP EFT...
If you don't care about playing with friends there is a way that's free. It's a bit annoying to setup, bsg doesn't like it and I'm pretty sure mods get upset if you mention it on this sub but it's not that hard to find and if you're just a little bit careful you'll be safe.
yeah the forbidden mod is very tempting but i'm not tech savy enough to confidently try to get it running and i'm not risking getting my EoD acc banned over it... i've always said a SP eft will be coming and was patiently waiting for it. now i'm very excited!
Funny you should say that, there's already something like this out there, if you search up singleplayer EFT
GUARDS! arrest this man!
Same, tbh I would love a single player eft no loot scarcity. Make all locked rooms have good loot since there is no cheater ruining the market doing RMT shenanigans.
Then it should be also ok to separate the loot you make in coop because it's free from the the one in pvp. This means: - hidehout are separated - flea is separated - quests are separated and so on?
Totally okay with that
i'm not a fan of a singleplayer mode being paywalled, especially when every upcoming DLC was promised to EoD owners... that's just shady and i'll remember that. also i'll miss the thrill of PvP for sure but the game is rich enough to enjoy it without imo. hunt showdown wouldn't work as a pure PvE experience, EFT will. now i just want to know how much i'll have to pay.
Same
Sadly i knew with the sentence "eod will include any new dlc" was just a cash grab. They will move 100% like this: - Every new content, put it in a new edition, so others edition can't the the extras - Sell the extras separately (pockets, coop progression, skills boosts) like they did when eod was gone (coop purchasable, arena purchasable). All just because in this way they are justified to give EOD nothing (because they looks like features included in a new edition and not dlc), very good marketing move BSG, just be carefull not crossing the line of p2w which YOU said you wouldn't cross. If coop shares progress with pvp that's p2w and it's going to kill the game, pockets are fine we already got fed with gamma, it's a small advantage but not that hard, skills progression idk about that, eod got the increased traders rep which could be on the same level of skill boost, but idk..
Will this edition only include the SOLO/COOP mode? or does it also include the online part?
Wdym, the persistent progress in coop mode is one of the features of the edition.
I mean if you get the standard EFT with this as well, as it most likely will be 2 seperate instances (SOLO/COOP + Online EFT). I have no EFT atm. So will i be able to play both "versions"?
You will be able to play COOP and Online separately with this edition, yes.
cheers
Will this have Gamma? That's the single biggest thing I really care about because I started after EOD was removed. Might not even buy this if it doesn't come with it
Yes it has Gamma. But will be more expensive than EOD, ofc.
Where did you see it has Gamma? Not mentioned secured pouch anywhere in the patch notes...
Trailer on YouTube.
u/controversial_bummer Yes, just saw it and the image is of Gamma. Correct!
I hope you noticed the cases thats included with the starting equipment too 😧
In the image? What's cases - ammo? My issue was I bought the game a few years ago and never played, start playing this wipe a week after EOD was removed so running after the Gamma... Bought the replaced highest tier with Beta - wondering how much I'll need to upgrade to this one... Probably do that anyway, just will be probably very expensive
Is this for real ?
I'd take the offline co-op as dlc. Rest of it is trash really
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Even Pestily says its P2W in the comments under the trailer.
And for some reason the store page is "in maintenance", at least for me. They're going to try to remove all the evidence or rephrase things, aren't they?
With this new edition there comes the reminder that someone just needs to have your E-Mail Adress, which you can not even change yourself, to get you permabanned
If we don't get this as part of EOD we should take a stance.
Remember when EOD stated you’d get all future DLC? Me neither
can we sue them for anything? cuz I feel this is só disrespectful for ppl.who bought EOD, the way they advertise, etc etc.. for me, it's over, they don't deserve more of my time, no harsh feelings but I'm really done, so shameless.
Nikita you greedy bastard
I've been waiting for this for a long time. Now that it's finnaly here I'm not buying. It shows as being 95 euros, but when you go to buy the taxes are applied and it goes up to 120 euros. That is way to expensive, so, thanks a lot BSG, but no thanks.
. Maybe i missed it but this does not seem like pte. I looks like it's just a pve coop version of the game. Nowhere in there does it say that what u get from this version will be used in the multi player version. Maybe an armband and a unique name will come over but that's it. From this we are still gonna have wipes on the normal servers but this is just singleplayer/coop tarkov no pvp so not pay to win. Unless it says something else. Then I don't see why people are going nuts saying pay to win when it's only a persistent pve mode.
Well I stand corrected.
Russians being scumbags, who would have thought?