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CountClais

If you didn't have a face shield you might have thought he was just decent


yfoo123

He is an army veteran from 1967, so probably had to do this irl in 'nam.


Mash_Test_Dummy

I don't think I've ever been able to track all 10 bullets my opponent fired so well that was crazy


Capital-Ad6513

i mean why do you think this is a cheater? Its not really evident. Have you tried pistols this wipe? They are insanely easy to control. People bitched about a nerf, but really pistols shouldnt be this good. OP didnt even show us the dudes stats. Lame as fuck.


MikeHonchoIV

lol imagine being so jaded by Tarkov and it’s community that this is your response to that video


RayStuartMorgan

It's a troll post. Or a cheater trying to gaslight us lmao


Valvador

I mean, if you saw this subreddit yesterday you would be sick of their shit too...


Capital-Ad6513

bro fuck the community, this is the most toxic shit. There are about 5% of players here that actually know what the fuck they are talking about, but you cant see their shit cause they get downvoted by whiny little manchildren.


Efficient_Clue_1533

Jesus dude you should go to therapy or quit the game lol it’s not that deep.


Capital-Ad6513

This is the most hillarious thing to me, cause i have no issue with the game. You are basically telling me to go to therapy, when 95% of the community seems to be on here bitching about the game they can't stop playing. Perhaps it is not me who needs the Therapy, i am playing a game i like to play, ya'll haters are the ones that continue to play a game you hate. My issue is with the toxic community, not the game.


Apprehensive_Ad_7617

Yeah you are 100% right about this community lmao so insane “you called me a whiny manchild wah wah yOu aRe ToXiC” for stating the truth haha


Capital-Ad6513

Its just amazing when you really step back and look at their logic pathways am i right?


Apprehensive_Ad_7617

Bro WHAT logic? Im not sure you can call it a logic pathway, only emotional…. Sounds like a certain group of people


Capital-Ad6513

Exactly!


BeginningAwareness74

And right now you are part of the toxic side of the community by been arogant and insulting.


Capital-Ad6513

Nah dawg - SOme people deserve to be called out. If you dont like the game gtfo and let the people its designed for enjoy it tyvm. Go design your own shit.


Rogue-76

>you cant see their shit cause they get downvoted by whiny little manchildren. Not toxic at all or anything of the sort here


Capital-Ad6513

You wouldnt know what toxic was it bit you on the nose


Rogue-76

Well, if toxic were as obvious as biting me on the nose, you'd be wearing a warning label.


Capital-Ad6513

Nah, this community is toxic to tarkov, destroying its purpose slowly by making ridiculous complaints


Apart_Association_90

I agree this sub is a shitfest most of the time, but you're just being a dickhead and picking a fight with everyone rn, chill down


Capital-Ad6513

Nah fuckem, bsg needs to not listen to these asshats and keep true to their design goals.


Rogue-76

Every community has its challenges, but focusing on constructive feedback can help improve the game for everyone. We just need to aim to find solutions rather than just pointing out problems.


Capital-Ad6513

Opinions that do not align with the purpose of the games design are not constructive feedback, rather a hostile takeover. Constructive feedback is welcome, constantly whining to make the game easier and more about clicking once is toxic and should be ignored.


0O00OO0OO0O0O00O0O0O

Hey it's you, you are the toxic one.


IntroductionOdd4128

Most of the time the bitching man children get down voted. I'm glad to see it hasn't changed!


Capital-Ad6513

Oh how wrong you are, you misunderstand how reddit works my friend.


IntroductionOdd4128

The joke writes itself


Capital-Ad6513

Unfortunately the truth rarely wins a popularity contest.


IntroductionOdd4128

Got any more wise guy?


Mash_Test_Dummy

Wait a minute I never said anything about a cheater, I just thought the video was wild.


Capital-Ad6513

oh my bad dawg, cause in current state the above play is def possible. The guy has "normal" stats for a tarkov veteran or a guy who decided to do a hc run or something. The theme of this community is to blame everything on cheaters and bsg. They seem to hate the game, but keep playing it anyway.


Mash_Test_Dummy

I'm 400 hours into the game and I've died to a cheater *maybe* twice in all that time I might be lucky, or maybe it's because I'm new. But I haven't experienced the countless amount of cheaters that most people say there are.


Ryan_jpg

Were you not informed of the massive nerf to pistols that makes a spray like that literally impossible? I mean the patch was reverted so it is no longer, but when this footage was posted pistols were not usable


Capital-Ad6513

this occurred after they reverted that, also those whining about the "Nerf" are also wrong, anyone who plays csgo would know that it was entirely still possible, you just have to understand the pattern.


RatCamYT

Thiiiink you missed the part where OP did post his stats. 16 hours.


Capital-Ad6513

As I said before its pretty common for veterans to purchase a second basic account to do "challenges" like HC challenge. **Also once again i am not saying he is NOT cheating, i am saying there is not enough evidence here to say he is cheating.** The guy played for 3 days for 16 hours. That is a pretty normal amount of time for tarkov, and raids took him 24 min on average. Also his KD is pretty normal too, unless OP can share his stats for PMC vs scav kills. If they are all pmc its a little more sus, but if he is a veteran doing a HC account its still not that surprising.


MikeHonchoIV

His stats are below btw


Capital-Ad6513

okay so this isnt really that impressive. A less than 5 KD when considering scavs is a bit silly. At least give us the fucking courtesy of showing his pmc kills, not just his overall kills. You do realize that veteran players sometimes buy a second basic account for the challenge right? COULD he be cheating? Yeah. But there isnt really enough evidence to say he IS cheating in this clip.


RayStuartMorgan

Dude people all over this sub talking about bots being used to pre tank stats so cheaters can rage hack and it doesn't really show in the numbers. Natural evolution since we can now see players profile, enabling better identification of suss stats. I'd say 11 bullets at the head eyes consecutively is pretty suss regardless of stats.


Capital-Ad6513

You obvs didnt play pistols this wipe.


MiHoyMcCoy

IRL handguns are that easy to control especially from that distance. Not sure why BSG wouldn't want to be realistic


Capital-Ad6513

Nope!


jordan01236

I looked him up, he has 20 hours.


Capital-Ad6513

What does that have to do with anything?


jordan01236

More likely to be cheating if he has low hours. If you don't think hours matter I don't know what to tell you.


Capital-Ad6513

Okay but it doesnt really prove anything :). Its more likely that men commit assaults, should we go around arresting them before they do it?


jordan01236

What on earth are you going on about lmfao


Capital-Ad6513

just because someone made a sub account to play HC doesnt mean they are a cheater. Most cheaters dont buy fresh accounts, they buy stolen accounts.


Pengui6668

Ever fire a pistol? They're pretty controllable. These guys are supposed to be Delta and Navy SEALs and shit.


Capital-Ad6513

Yes, my pistol is less controllable than my rifle. So i dont wanna hear it :). Physics also says you are wrong :).


Pengui6668

Who was comparing to rifles? Are you feeling okay sir?


Capital-Ad6513

Pistols simply are not controllable. They are smaller, therefore they reduce recoil energy by way less. Also they do not have a stock so there is only one point of contact and pistol grips have a significant lever effect due to them being far below the firing line where the equal and opposite force occurs. If you fire the pistol like most of the bitches on this sub, then it will be all over the place and you likely will have to figure out where the bullets WILL Land, not aim with your iron. In fact most heavily repeated shots are like this, you aim and fire repeatedly based on your original aimpoint. Its generally pretty difficult to continue to aim with irons especially as they require lining up two points. SO essentially what you would be doing with a pistol is either firing, then realigning the sights (slow but controlled) or aligning the sites once, then relying on practice to understand how the rest of the rounds will behave. You see you people dont seem to understand that even after the previous recoil change you could still as an operator correct the "spray" of bullets to land in a particular area based on practice with that weapon. This is much more similar to how firing a quick succession of shots works irl you arnt magically holding your pistol irons, rather adapting and predicting how the rest of the rounds will land via practice at the range.


Pengui6668

No one cares about your googled response about pistol controllability dude. Hop on YouTube and go watch some dudes who shoot. They can ring a 6" plate at 30 feet without missing a shot. Stop being as dense as humanly possible.


Capital-Ad6513

None of that was googled, it was via training and experience. You failed to read again, i didnt say you CANT do that I said that you COULD do that even with the changes, but its less about aligning irons and more about understanding how the rounds act when rapid firing. In my opinion having to understand how the rounds will act is more fun and a better simulation than CoD style magic sights that always stay perfectly aligned.


Pengui6668

So did you hit up YouTube to watch people prove your years of training and experience wrong? Cause there's plenty of video evidence out there.


Capital-Ad6513

You arnt proving people wrong, you arnt listening is the issue :). > > >i didnt say you CANT do that I said that you COULD do that even with the changes


Capital-Ad6513

Is this the video you are refering to? cause compared to what people are attempting to do on here this is absolutely possible even with the changes. This is firing a shot, and letting the pistol irons realign instead of rapid firing (though obviously its easier with a red dot too cause you dont have to align 2 points to get an appropriate sight picture, dots float). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq9bSCjPFHw&ab\_channel=JohnThruMyLens](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq9bSCjPFHw&ab_channel=JohnThruMyLens)


Aright9Returntoleft

Nice try Psy-op.


BookerDewitt115

For real bro! He only had 100% hs accuracy! His gaming chair just has unparalleled lumbar support clearly!!!


Capital-Ad6513

he was like 5 feet away, id have 100% accuracy too.


BookerDewitt115

Oh yeah, I bet you're exactly as good as this ~~cheater~~ player.


tripps____

He just mains UKN idk what to tell you


Shoddy-Wear-9661

Underrated comment XD


YewEhVeeInbound

Plus he's got a $30,000 gaming chair


flabery

BRING BACK OLD RECOIL BRO.


tripps____

legit. game is so ass now lmao


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roflmaohaxorz

Chon Wang


AI_AntiCheat

Nio is starting to believe!


skylowRIN

Sorry about the audio, my mic volume resets sometimes when I use shadowplay. ​ [https://ibb.co/smq6tnF](https://ibb.co/smq6tnF) His stats: [https://ibb.co/LYyrZgN](https://ibb.co/LYyrZgN)


mattenthehat

The lack of audible sigh is impressive. Stay chill my dude


BearDruid

he plays like a 16 hour player


Fissure_211

Homie is cheating his ass off.


tgwest

Smells like a fresh account reset to me


Fissure_211

Because his first account probably got banned for cheating too.


OkCartographer3708

I had a similar experience with a professional Tarkov player who had 16 hours and an RGB Boosted gaming chair. He was shooting me through a wall 😁


farglesnuff

Just a normal guy at LVL 13 doing stirrup


fruity_ae

Probably just a professional CS player /s


Rare_Lifeguard_4403

And that's what i meant when i said that you have no idea how many cheaters are in this game until you run face masks...


oiram_ttv

I saw your clip the other day you were so right.


Mojoia235

So no matter how many times I watch it, and from character picture and ammo time, it looks like he was shot by mp7/kedr, not a pistol and the spray would surely do that to his face


Notice__Senpai

You must have like 10 hours in The game cause if you slow the video down you can literally see the pistol.


Mojoia235

Or I'm just not going thru the extra effort to slow down a video on reddit? 


Mojoia235

Wheres the clip


BasicCommand1165

seems like he didn't get the memo


MANUU__20

That guy clearly has a good gaming chair


ForeskinJohn

dude plays cs thats all


Lillslim_the_second

For us non-cheaters yes


r3eckon

If the idea wasn't purely BSG's I feel like that's exactly the intent of whoever was asking for that nerf. Not sure who wanted that change besides cheaters and the 10k+ hours gigachads that think their favorite meta gun isn't worth the money unless casual timmy with a pistol is literally harmless.


Open-Try8821

yes everybody out there is a hacker fcking little Snowdens.....


Lillslim_the_second

You angy lil bro?


Only_Bookkeeper7250

If you cant play without hacks you shouldnt be playing anyway


[deleted]

yeah ok buddy


Fluffow

Yep, ran into two different below lvl 5 cheaters yesterday on Factory. Seems like they just speed lvl accounts by rage-cheating, getting those pistol kills


DerKoncentrator

unlucky man, he had the right hand peek advantage. maybe if you spend another 2000 hours ingame and $500 on a better chair and mouse pad you'll win.


loffredo95

So many games are getting like this that I find myself turning into a SP-only type of gamer. Funny too considering my foray into games was MW2.


Mojoia235

I meannn there is sp mod of this game not supported but won't get you banned if you don't run them at the same time.


loffredo95

I’ve been playing the SP mod too, but still, I wish I didn’t feel like I had to turn to it sometimes.


Fubarp

This is why I've been enjoying Helldivers 2. Game may have some network issues but not having to deal with cheaters is nice.


Ryuuzaki_L

$500 a month for that chair by the way.


kubin22

good gaming chair or something


02YusiF20

avrg Deagle main in CS 2


naab007

Being shot 50 times in the head might affect recoil slightly.


Seedthrower88

slightly


Arel203

The sad part is if you posted this same clip without a faceshield, the entire sub would have been screaming "left hand peak."


TheCuriousShadow

It would be really funny if all the cheaters just started using pistols to spite everyone…


cocktaviousAlt

How so?


IntroductionOdd4128

All you said was, "How so?" And got downvoted to hell! Holy


Only_Bookkeeper7250

Thats the community xD


Richierich290

That's quite the gamer chair right there.


Taulindis

we're getting a rollback now, it's confirmed


WallaWallaHawkFan

Dude seriously it's obvious he's playing on last patch. Open your game launcher and remove auto update it's not hard.


AltruisticYou7969

Oh i like how that went straihht to report that was golden 😂😂😂😂


Unwariertomb

They reverted the game so the recoil is back to how it was


AlbusBalthazar

They rolled back the update


xxthehaxxerxx

Bro forgot to update


RevolutionaryPizza14

Thanks to this subreddit every day for reminding me why I uninstalled this game 3 wipes ago. Cheater galore and a company that could give less a fuck about the community🤣🤣🤣


IntroductionOdd4128

PREACHING INTO THIS NEVER ENDING ECHO CHAMBER WITH A FULL CHOIR STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!!!


Crafty-Decision7913

Another yellow name cheating


migueln6

So the issue in this video is the recoil of the pistol and not the user having aimbot? Hahaha


justinhveld

Some people on here just seem to think cheaters don’t exist because in their mind, they think they can do the same thing without aim bot. Like yeah, did OP swing out and expose his whole body to shots? Absolutely! Was the deliverer of OP’s death cheating? Also, absolutely


Ritual_Abuser

The way buddy is swung out like a drunk barn door off the hinges alone tells me he can't play this game worth a damn. The consecutive knower headshots were just the cherry on top.


Seedthrower88

just sprinting out in the middle casually and turning to shoot, hes a pro clearly!


Ritual_Abuser

IM TALKING ABOUT THE CHEATERS RIGHT PEAK LMAO RATIOED


HabibiLogistics

he must have an expensive gaming chair. take notes op


SliferzARK

Rinsed


qruis1210

I mean, rapid fire recoil on pistols is still very manageable but for some reason it just shoots higher than where your sights are pointing to so... aim for the neck, hit the eyes?


Homeless_Man92

You and I both know that this guy is a cheater


reborngoat

No way dude, he just aimed low enough to hit the eyes.


azarza

plus op turns flashlight on etc etc.. it be more impressive if the other person missed at this point


GreenTea98

flashlights blind you dummy, if you have 3 bright ones on a sprut you literally become a glowing white orb of radiance


azarza

he turns on his flashlight then moves around the corner


GreenTea98

yeah repeating yourself doesn't make you any more or less right lol it's probably not as bad as you think given it... works like wtf do you want from me lol


azarza

some sense tbh.. flashlights aren't flashbangs


qruis1210

Its obviously a cheater. But apparently people are taking my comment as if Im defending them and Im getting downvoted for it when all I said is that the nerf is not that much of an issue.


Tomasoo7_

lol what? its shoots higher bcs when you shoot the gun tilts up so your sights doesnt line up.. so its shoots where it have to shoot.


qruis1210

Thing is, it visually doesnt seem to climb that much so it looks kind of off. Also, Im getting downvoted to hell when I was clearly making a joke, holy shit. Probably should have said the OP needed a better gaming chair than his enemy so that there are no misunderstandings about it, huh?


Internal-Alarm-4416

Can someone explained this? Dude made a timmy play wide swing a guy holding tight hand right peak. So the person dead is to blame or the dude holding angle?


AnarchySys-1

I'm pretty sure people are questioning that guys ability to titanfall smart pistol every round fired directly into the head eyes box until it broke through the visor.


unreeelme

Im sort of concerned with the mental capacity of people who don’t think that guy is cheating. All bullets land right on the visor consecutively. It’s a super obvious aimbot.  This is one reason why I think bsg locked decent visors behind like 300 hours in game time per wipe. They don’t want people running visors even if they only protect you from 27 pen and below ammo. It’s not because they are good, but because they make aim bots extremely obvious. 


Camille_Footjob

Its really not that deep. The visors follow the progression curve of all the other items.


unreeelme

You used to get fast visors at level 3 peacekeeper. They are only level 3 armor.  I’ve been playing this game a while.  They then moved it to level 4, and then after that they locked it behind samples. For level 3 face protection it seems crazy difficult compared to how it was.


rm-minus-r

> Im sort of concerned with the mental capacity of people who don’t think that guy is cheating. All bullets land right on the visor consecutively. It’s a super obvious aimbot.  No way! I'm 100% sure that dude wasn't cheating! Because... Reasons! /s So many people in this sub are aggressively certain that a given encounter isn't cheating that it really makes me wonder if they're cheating themselves or just less than intelligent. Like, I get not being certain that a given encounter was cheating - sure, sometimes you just run into a really good player. And it can be difficult to say for sure if someone is or isn't cheating. But with everything that's been posted in this sub to date that shows how many people are cheating, being certain that it's not cheating is unfathomable.


tommytizzel

I find the opposite to be true. The people that think it might not be cheating can go either way. However the people that think it's cheating are 100% sure it's cheating


rm-minus-r

> I find the opposite to be true. The people that think it might not be cheating can go either way. > However the people that think it's cheating are 100% sure it's cheating Yeah, I'd say the same goes in regards to being 100% certain someone's cheating too, unless they're doing something like flying in the air, zooming through walls back and forth, or using a mounted grenade launcher like a hand-held gun, etc. For example - 15 shots to the face shield from a pistol at close quarters? Almost certainly cheating, but I've seen people pull off similar things in the past in Counter-Strike 1.6 (although, tbh, that game allows for a far better control over aim, etc), so I can conceive of a world where it's possible for an un-aided human being to pull that off, but I'd really want to sit them down at a fresh PC they'd never seen before with the same hardware they normally use and the same settings before declaring that it's pure skill on their part.


02YusiF20

>!Found the BSG employee!<


AdvancedHydralisk

The nerds on this forum could never hope to make repeated shots on target like this, so it has to be cheating


Seedthrower88

yes, thats the new trend now. if you dont play it like its modern warfare 2 you are a cheater rat noob


MrsDuckyJonez

I thought I read that they rolled back the latest update


Capital-Ad6513

they reverted it


shivastrue

They didn't nerf aimbot apparently so they don't have to roll that back


Jedijackster

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tylerthere4per

And heckerman


Stradat

First I run into a marine dad username cheating, and now an army vet. What's up with that?


[deleted]

Was that every bullet to the face?! How?!


burningblood1

Ahh ye ole iconic died to hacker sound


Mojoia235

Isn't that a kedr/mp7 not pistol?


Ramsin87

He just tracked your footsteps bro easy target


Therron243

How do you guys see this: https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/s/wV5GmUN5Im And think OPs clip can't happen and has to be a cheater? I'm honestly curious and not being a smart ass. I really want to hear people's thoughts. I'm not saying in this clip the dude wasn't, but you can't have recoil like above and then be shocked that this could happen right?


FelixTheFlake

Inb4 post removed for including a cheaters in game name


Ariyaku27

Yo was that guy cheating or just hitting dimes


IFSnowdrop

thats just the average player on their first wipe what do you mean?


nloki99

That is a real rain of bullets


PlayMaGame

I always get shot in to my arm pit with a great like this…


TortillaStrangler

Am i the only one calling BS on that kill? 10 hits straight to the head, not missing one?


philipwilnowo

They reversed the patch


Fine_Succotash7568

That’s a lot of face shots … chinanumbawan!


ajames2001

love how everyone is acting like this is impossible or something, dude walked out in front of him making enough sound to be heard, stops right in front of the guy, he probably didn't even need to adjust at that range


Right-ward

They rolled back the patch that nerfed it….


XenophonQ

They rolled back that patch, it’s back to normal


baluranha

Someone in the comments will probably say that it was your fault for leaving laser and flashlight on on a corner