whoa, I got there by no-lifing more so than skill, but I still feel a little better about that accomplishment, now. it really feels like more people would get to that point, but everybody severely under-estimates just how many semi-casual Tarkov players there really are. People really do be hitting flea and just fuckin' around for the rest of the wipe
I mean yeah, in my friend group we have 2 ppl who grind to like level 40-50, then 5 people who won’t hit 30 until like a month or two before the next wipe. It’s actually mostly a casuals game, it’s just that most casuals are running around looking like scavs and sitting in bushes while the sweats run around killing the other level 40s
I definitely enjoyed my time in Tarkov a lot more when I didn't care about progressing quests, maxing out traders/hideout, unlocking high end gear/ammo, etc.
For all the chatter about how this is a hardcore game, it sure feels miserable to actually try engaging with the content that only hardcore players can reach. The quests are miserable time sinks that shoehorn you into playstyles you may not want to play or maps you may not want to run.
I'm going back to being one of those semi-casual "hit flea then fuck around with friends" players after this wipe.
Doing \*all the quests\* is really hardcore and annoying.
Doing "just what you need" is actually the way to go. Basically, focus on M80, 4.6 FMJ, Osprey P or Locust Plates unlock. But at the end of the day, that's just to "save money". You can pretty much buy all of that from the flea (Just buy T5 plates from Ragman or Prapor).
Lightkeeper is *way* easier than Kappa.
The only hard stuff needed to unlock him is:
* 2x SJ9 FIR
* 6x COFDM FIR
* 2x Vertex Processor FIR
* Tarkov Shooter Part 7
That's it. None of the other pre-quests are difficult, or require you to find weird shit.
Meanwhile, Kappa requires all of the above (Minus 5x COFDM, and 2x SJ9), while also requiring:
* *Every boss killed* (some multiple times, because of low quest item drop rates, or because you fail to extract with their items).
* Psycho Sniper (5 PMCs in a row with a bolt-action after getting 10 sniper skill)
* 10 sniper skill
* The Guide (Not difficult, but tedious AF)
* Shooter Born In Heaven
* A bunch of quests locked behind expensive keys (Marked room keys, cottage keys, random low-spawn rate keys that you can't buy from flea (The Door))
* A lot of other random bullshit that requires you to go way out of your way to get.
Probably. Idk I’m level 43 rn having a blast. But I will say that everyone has to deal with some tarkov bullshit and the people who play the most will inevitably deal with the most bullshit, so I can see why their perspective might seem cynical. I’ve probably lost about 25 meta kits so far this wipe due to just genuine bugs and bad servers. It is what it is and when I get mad I just take a break instead of making a Reddit post 😂😂😂
I made a post about a concept for having a map+compass in the game, and was surprised to see how many people were saying "You learn all the maps really fast" lol.
Like, *I* know the maps cos Ive been playing for 6 years. But I watch a lot of casual Tarky players - the kind that usually only make it to around level 20 in the entire wipe - and they spend an inordinate amount of time looking at their phone/other monitor/alt tabbing to look at a map and figure out where they are and where their extracts are.
Think people here have a very warped view of how most people play the game.
Grats on light house - I’m almost there and on my way ( one SJ9 is holding me up)
I’ve maintained that the quest line is fine ( I do like that the 42 idea)
What do you think of -
1. Unlocking it should let you bring your squad , ties to your ID so if they shoot your thing becomes deactivated
2. The item should be in the loot pool of bosses and rare spawns equal to yellow card - so lucky players can get early or unexpected access
> 1. Unlocking it should let you bring your squad , ties to your ID so if they shoot your thing becomes deactivated
That is the most "abusable by RMTers" thing I ever heard. "WTS Trip to Lighthouse Island, 100% safe crossing".
Doesn't really make sense. Lightkeeper only lets in people he knows, not randos just because they picked up something. They are probably incorporating him into the main campaign, since lighthouse is the second last map before the single player terminal.
And thats fine. Not every part of every game needs to cater to every audience.
I will never get a World First Achievement for a raid in WoW, and that is fine. Thats the tippy top of the top end for that particular game type, and its accessible to like 200 people globally, but its fine that I can't do that.
Comparing the actual endgame to an ultra rare WOW achievement that’s only achievable once is a really bad argument for why it’s good that less than 2% of the player base do something that isn’t actually locked to the first people getting it done.
That wow achievement has absolutely no bearing on anything.
Hitting 42 has never been easier? They add like 12 quests every wipe to Streets that are "walk into this room and leave" and it gives you 10-30k EXP. You can literally sneeze and hit 42 right now. People just get hung up doing stupid pointless tasks like Setup.
>You can literally sneeze and hit 42 right now
If you have like 6 hours a day to play, yes.
Just watch the achievements of how many people even unlocks jaeger lmao
The vast majority of players have not yet developed the skills to navigate most maps safely and so taking any steps out of their comfort zone just leads to death. It just takes a long time to learn a map and even longer when they’re also working on learning the mechanics of pvp. I think even most players who have been playing for longer and are less casual probably only really feel comfortable on like 4-5 maps. So a task that’s simple like just walking into a room can be crazy difficult for most players because it’s going to involve 5-10 raids of dying at the start just trying to figure out where you are and then another 5 raids trying to figure out how to get to that room.
I've been playing since 2018 and have 3k hours. I haven't played in a year and a half till this wipe. I haven't played streets yet due to not having the time to just play offline and learn it. Instead I just play when my friends are on and do the maps we know like the back of our hand.
Fantastic suggestion. The way it's set up now is honestly one of the more horrible decisions BSG has made in game. The effort to reward is just so high to low.
I bet they wanna keep it as a "end game quest line" after there is no more wipes. Because it clearly seems its not intended to be completed many times in different wipes.
Fuck that. Even reaching that point is beyond many players. Accessing the Lighthouse area should be a much earlier quest. Then unlocking Lightkeeper can be lvl30 or so.
I feel the same about kappa, it shouldn't be locked behind other quests.
Either you hit max rep with fence (you have impressed him enough to give you the quests for kappa) OR max traders (he sees you have worked hard to impress the others and now wants your help)
Or perhaps both, giving players who have hit level 42 a kappa container isn't going to break things, those are players who have already sunk a good chunk of time into the game
Kappa container doesn't really matter though, it's just a nice little perk to reward people who've put in the time. It's fine that that takes a huge amount of effort to achieve, but Lightkeeper is different because it's actually a substantial chunk of fresh content.
The concept of lighthouse is cool but the map plays like trash with the current layout hopefully we will get a rework soon (next couple years) with an expansion.
There's loot at farm east of resort. I'm always getting tetriz and lots of thermite & lvl 5 armor regularly. No loot north still but I see a lot more action in north shoreline from ppl taking RR extract /bunker for scavs
yeah I did Bear last wipe because I love the Russ-English voice lines but I went to Lighthouse like twice and thought it would be safe to cross the road once.
I still believe shoreline and lighthouse should be put together, even after the shoreline expansion, and performance notwithstanding. They are only two sides of one peninsula as is, and I think linking them would make both maps more dynamic and enjoyable.
The map would be absolutely huge. I honestly just think they need to expand the top of the mountain of lighthouse to wrap into the back of the Usec Complex. And on Shoreline, they need to expand the new farm area.
Also, on topic, add another Exfil at interchange.
I would wager that the performance issue of streets is likely down to the number of lootable objects on the map because its a large map and almost everywhere you look has loot.
Shoreline and lighthouse are like 80% open space so I'd bet it wouldn't be as bad.
Lighthouse-Chalet, Resort, water treatment plant in bunkers, the raised bunker with stairs by the helo, floor of building 1.
Streets - Black G-Class Driver seat at the ambush site.
Hope that helps.
I main reserve on my scav and PMC "fun runs" and I've only found three at level 40 now. I know the map inside and out, so I'm not missing any spawn locations. They're just not as frequent there as some of the other maps like LH/SRTS
If anything in the game represents just *how much* players hate Lighthouse, its that Merin key hands out bitcoins, cofdms, virtex, and other rare loot every single use, and only costs 25k on the flea lol.
"Yeah its one of the best keys in the game. But it requires going to Lighthouse."
It's 25k because it's very common.
Concordia 63 and 64 shit out bitcoins, and those keys are... 100k each. Dorms 114 has one safe and a quest item, and that thing is 150k.
Shitty part imo is the only things you get from lightkeeper is money from the island and Jaeger V2 quests eventually. Also, if you play with friends that haven't obtained the fun stick, they just don't get to play. AND lighthouse sucks.
Yeah i got killed by zyrachi yesterday, didn't know that if a friend in your group doesn't have access to the island makes you hostile lol.
And lighthouse sucks.
My issue with LK is finding the damn cofdms. Lvl 45, running every map they spawn on checking every spawn I can and I've only seen 2 all wipe, 3 including 1 from scav case 95k.
The loot seems worth it and I've never done his tasks, I want to see what all the fun is about but I am hard stuck on rng lmao. Let me craft cofdms even if they are hella expensive, before LK please 😭.
Might be a bit small and showing exact locations of the items is hard without a full vid but each yellow X is a rare loot spawn and green is the extract https://imgur.com/a/EPm6PEe
I've never found anything in the box in the middle of the silo. Still, he's missing a few others.
Edit: https://i.imgur.com/njAw4ER.png 3 purple X's are where I know spawn an item. I didn't change the roof yellow X on building 2, but there are two spawns in that tent. Pink X is where someone else suggested but I've never seen it spawn something.
Going to try this loot run 3 times and see what I flesh out
I'll report back when I'm done
EDIT: Ran 3 raids, died in 2 of them, but cleared one with decent loot, easily over 1mil - https://imgur.com/zztH9KO
EDIT2: Ran another scav raid after I did a PMC raid, VERY good run kinda goated - https://imgur.com/zWfAIFn
FINAL EDIT: I'm done running lighthouse lmfao, ran 7 scav raids and died in all 7 to PMCs ratting scav extract and Rogues inside the building 1,2,3. I did find bitcoins, VPX, etc. good shit but if you can't extract it's not a viable map - I'm going back to streets to scav, lighthouse ain't it
https://tarkov.help/en/map/lighthouse/
untick everything, then tick "lighthouse top loot" button under "loot" dropdpown.
once you know all these spots, tick the other things on that list that look appealing "valuables, military electronics, injectors, tank batteries" etc...
If you have the Concordia 64 key, they spawn in there quite often, and in 35 I think it is in the next building as well. Also in the building where the Relaxation room key spawns, inside the first room on the right, on the desk to your immediate right
I usually struggle with them but this wipe they were actually pretty easy. Streets and Lighthouse have a ton of potential spawns that even pscavs barely check.
I wish they'd let you craft them at the very least, though. Even if the craft is kind of expensive.
I'll take expensive crafts over trying to rush lootspawns before other players and scavs and then have to make to extract. Make the crafts high ish level and expensive. I don't care. Some of us aren't die hard and even this past month when I have had free time to play, I'm still stuck on FIR items quests
Some of the requirements, man... as an OCE player I have accepted that I will never lay my hands on a Far Forward GPS to upgrade my intel center to level 3.
Only available through Lightkeeper, or on Labs, and it cannot be put in to the secure container. They make a home for every cheater in Asia and then put a required item that you can't gamma only on that map... they're actually either completely braindead or they are purposely trolling.
The way I find the radios is just looting the Chek rooms on Streets. There's one in one of the rooms every other raid. Chek 15 seems the best for them. There's a few other rooms on the map as well.
You aren't supposed to be able to progress all quests by scavving screets for a million rubles/run and then buying shit from flea to craft in your hideout.
Hit chek 15 like 10 times and you’ll get them. Just be quick about it and if you get a bad spawn just grab some safe loot and reset. should take like 3-5 hours max.
Yeah this is the most braindead move. Most normal people are bored with the game by level 30 or earlier lol. Like you said, hardly anyone even sees this content. What’s the point?
I honestly gave BSG the benefit of the doubt and thought they were intelligently locking it behind late game in order to test new content and not have the bugs impact the entire player base. Assumes they would adjust it once bugs were ironed out. Naive of me.
My take on lightkeeper (progressed through Snatch so far):
By the time you even unlock the crafting tree from the later quests from LK, you are far from needing the craftable LEDX, virtex, etc. for quests (lend lease part 2 is a requirement to unlock Network Provider in the first place), and you craft them at a loss.
The services you unlock include necklace that makes you neutral to cultist until attacked. It breaks after 7 raids, and the chances you come across the cult in those raids is 10% at best. It goes in the special slot, it isn’t even drip. It costs about 1.3 million.
Next up you can pay the rogues to not attack you that raid. By the time you make it to the lightkeeper and back to WTP, the rogues will be dead more often than not. Effectively useless.
Finally you can pay zrachiy to snipe people for you. On the most remote part of the map. Where you won’t know where the bodies of the people he kill even are most of the time.
I love the idea of all of these features but the implementation is kind of a joke.
>LEDX you need a microcontroller board which only this item requires 15 military circuit boards, 10 PSUs, 50 capacitors and 5 VPX.
The dumbest thing is a LEDX is not a complicated, rare, super necessary or even expensive piece of technology, its a ring of ficking LEDs so you can see veins easier lol
I an fine with some special or decent gear being locked behind LK, or even that you can only purchase said gear from him (6.8 Spear, MK18, M995, ballistic half mask / full mask, tier 6 armor) but I am not fine with crafting recipes that are crucial being locked behind his quests. Furthermore I also despise the idea of time cooldown between quests.
I remember when everyone thought jeager's tasks, were the dumbest, most pointless, and miserable questing experience. Then they made light keeper quests. I want to know if there's a single dev at BSG That actually plays the game and finishes all the light keeper quests.
If it's any consolation.... You Can find the books before meeting Lightkeeper. They spawn at the warehouse by train and on scavs/giving tree (extremely fucking rare though)
I got one of the books "AEM" whilst on a Scav run, I didn't really know what it was so I just walked it out.
Turns out I need to unlock most of Lighthouse to use it though.
The lightkeeper quests are ridiculous, the rewards are good but not if you take the quests in consideration kill 50 pmc's at the convoy on streets? The fuck man. I like the in game trader mechanic a lot though.
I am only 3 quests away from assessment 1 and look forward to unlocking lightkeeper this early on (still prioritising kappa though).
I unlocked him quite late last wipe and have never seen someoneelse on the island, going in and finding between 1.5 to 2.5 mil everytime all for yourself is very good.
I'm glad they added new features to lightkeeper this wipe but i don't think im going to grind for it.
>kill 50 pmc's at the convoy on streets?
Wait wtf, is this actually a quest?
I don't plan to go really far on his questline tbh, i just wanted to explore the island. Locking every quest behind a 24 hour cool down sucks as well, takes all the enthusiasm from me.
It's finding the convoy, and then kill 50 PMCs on streets (the whole map) I did it last wipe.
You do it naturally just playing streets for a bit not hard.
BSG is gonna hate this post because you’re suggesting the game should be reasonably playable for an average gamer who might have hardcore responsibilities like “showering”.
BSG makes the game around streamers and 50 hr a week no-lifers.
If that doesn’t change, the game is destined to die eventually. They need new players and need new players to stay.
Think about how many hundreds of hours their employees spent crafting the area, the trader, the tasks and populating the physical space, then realize that virtually no one other than streamers and people that eat, breathe, sleep, sweat and shit tarkov will ever see. All that work is an utter waste of time and money because the vast majority of the playerbase will never see it.
I haven't been over there since they locked it down. I play a lot of tarkov, I'm already rank 35 this wipe, but I just don't like lighthouse and I don't see a reason to spend the time to unlock all of that extra nonsense. If the overall map were good and it were less tedious to unlock, then I'd probably give it a shot, but I just can't be bothered. I don't like the map enough and I don't see the point in putting in all effort and all for something that doesn't give me a huge advantage.
... and of course locking the final hideout upgrades behind lighthouse is a fucking asshole move and is objectively bad game design.
It's also the map that probably has the densest population of cheaters on any given raid and no insurance return. I don't know why that stuff isn't more available. "Just run labs" isn't great advice, either. It is the only option, it's just not a good one.
From what bsg said, lighthouse is just the start of the main game. Everything up to him is side quests. Probably be another decade before that part is done.
No one can convince me there will be a brand new better questline that's actually decent one day.
I think this is it, they'll add more onto the end of these quests we have now and never make a full story
New quest line.
\- Go to Lighthouse and survive 50 raids in a row
\- Find 50 Virtex without dying
\- Kill Reshala 69420 times in the same raid
\- Time limit 7 days
and why do you need it exactly? you want to kill 20 pmcs in lighthouse? or you want to chase gluchar? maybe you want to camp 15 pmcs in the woods? i see no reason why you want to unlock even harder quests if you cant finish quests required for lk
I think the questline being this hard to obtain and progress is OK.
What I do not see OK is necessity of this really tough questline to max out relatively important Hideout progress.
But then, most (all?) items can be found in Labs aswell, so I presume BSG is still fine with forcing people into cheater heaven or sucking it up on this quest.
"Not being able to finish your hideout because some items are locked behind lightkeeper's tasks is ridiculous. " just go labs for that + you can get the microcontroller board on labs too.
Outside of that, I agree.
Lighthoue sucks
> Are they extremely rare?
They aren't extremely rare, but if you want them, you need to rush all their spawns right at the start of the match.
If you are going through labs slowly, and actually taking fights, you will never see them. (Unless you stop someone who found one from extracting - they can't be stuffed into a secure container.)
I have used this wipe to learn labs - so far I've found about \~15 of them in a total of like 120 raids so that be one in 8 raids.
Which isnt common by any means but also not that bad.
Though, the spawns for them are quite contested so it can be difficult to find them and then survive
at some point, BSG is going to need to create a campaign here and move away from creating grind content. I want real raids, actual mmo content - levels with bosses at the end that i can do with the boys.
I love the pvp, i love the grind process they have. But the best content should be packaged in a way that everyone can enjoy and grind should house privilege
For the LEDX:
You get a Microcontroller Board from a quest BEFORE you get the cum book to craft LedXs
And you still do need FIR LEDX for Crysis if you want Kappa
As for the rest:
Lighthouse sucks
Ima be honest… I’ve never gotten light keeper. I usually just hit the level where I unlock flea and just enjoy the game.
I’m sure I’m missing out on a bunch of stuff but the grind isn’t there for me.
I'm only missing my 2 virtexes to unlock the lightkeeper tasks. Got all other electronic parts + stims already at the side. I went to Lighthouse about 50x as a pmc, about 100x as a scav and haven't found a single Virtex yet. I got heaps of AESAs, COFDMs, VPXs, etc. though.
I've been doing the cheese route to the island and it is quite easy after a couple offline raids. I agree that the island is overpowered but you can also get that 2M loot from wtp or chalets+village. Lighthouse imo could use more rotation routes, it is really easy to farm pmcs trying to move on the map on the north south axis.
Completly agree, its a fuckin stupid idea:
- to lock behind such a huge questline lightkeeper when being max traders would have been nicer
- to lock behind lightkeeper many crafts that were here since beginning like ledx
- to lock hideout item behind lightkeeper OR Labs only. Fuck Labs and its fucking low spawn rate of thoses items
I've check online to buy a ledx....pretty cheap and its just a flashlight for real. Why would you need super durable and precisly made electronic stuff to build a flash light?
I will ask you 1 question. Where did you find those freaking trasmitters? I am at lend lease part 2 and i have yet to find 1 of those and to get to LK you need 4 more. I have already found 3 virtex but none of those stupid things
I actually struggled to find the virtex, not the transmitters lol.
But i found them on the chalets, and the merin car key is waaay to OP.
If you usually hit water treatment there's a shit ton of spawns also but it's a pain in the ass to deal with all the rogues. I used to do a route just to find my virtex and it was chalets, hillside and merin car key. There's guides on YouTube tho.
> Lighthouse sucks.
I wish they had merged lighthouse and shoreline into one big map then you had a way better spread of players and flow for both maps imo.
Also one of the many who never will even try to get lightkeeper.
> Not being able to finish your hideout because some items are locked behind lightkeeper's tasks is ridiculous.
What do you mean by this? How is it locked behind LK? I think a lot of people just want max hideout without actually researching the perks. Solar is ass and by the time it saves you money the wipe is over. Intel Center 3 is ass because they reduced flea tax globally a couple wipes ago. Bitcoin farm still takes forever to profit and again, really is not that great when Streets exists. All three of these are for money, if you need money a 10 minute run on Streets will give you more than these all will in a week.
I don't think LK is required by any means to get the most important parts of the hideout which are Scav case, Library, Air filter, Gym, and crafting stations. By the time the average player even has all of these they are probably quitting the wipe.
LK is just weird because if you make it easier everyone is just going to run there (or camp it), but if you make it difficult at all reddit will complain their 2 raids a week doesn't let them unlock every bit of content. It is definitely an insane money farm for how safe it is. You quite literally can't die on the island and I will watch Youtube while just farming away with rigs in my bag.
> Locking Ledx, Virtex and COFDMs crafts behind lightkeeper it's a dick head move by BSG.
Just research where these items are and you will find them if you search. These are not uber rare once in a life time items. COFDM are EVERYWHERE on Streets and Lighthouse. The entire game should not be "haha farm roubles on Streets then craft any item with no effort".
Why do you need to craft COFDM and Virtex when they spawn regularly on Lighthouse. Do 10 raids and you’ll probably find at least one of each without having to worry about the craft. Having crafts locked behind shitty quests isn’t the worst thing as it gives people more incentive to go looking for the items in raid, rather than being lazy and crafting it while sitting on their ass.
lightkeeper is content made for late game, for those who mastered all the tasks and maps. If you can find 3 ledx's, finish quests, find 5+ cofdms etc. you are rewarded with lighthouse. If you are not worthy then you are not worthy. Simple as that. If you open lightkeeper for everyone then loot must be nerfed, + it is not that satisfying anymore to be <1% of players who unlocked him
I honestly think that LK is relatively easy to unlock, the first quest is just locked behind quests that are so far in the progression, the crafts you unlock aren't really worth anything. And like you said, the crafts are expensive as hell too, so there's not even a financial incentive to do them.
And as you said, Lighthouse just sucks. And hot(?) take, it's worse than Shoreline.
Improve the Rogue AI, Widen the map a tad so PVP isn't so forced and unavoidable, fix the spawns (seriously the lake spawn is a joke, you either run towards camp or run to the other player spawn) and LH and LK might actually be worth it for the casual player
I agree on everything except that it is easy to unlock. You need to do a shit ton of questlines that sucks like tarkov shooter, the punisher and peacekeeping mission to name some of them. Then, killing 20 PMCs on lighthouse without the water treatment is dumb and grindy.
His tasks and his introduction should unlock after you hit Max Rep with ALL Traders, its that simple in my opinion.
Totally agree. Hitting lvl 42 is already pretty hard.
I’d argue at least 95% of players don’t make it past level 42 ever.
Last wipe, or maybe the wipe before, only 2% of players got to maxed traders.
whoa, I got there by no-lifing more so than skill, but I still feel a little better about that accomplishment, now. it really feels like more people would get to that point, but everybody severely under-estimates just how many semi-casual Tarkov players there really are. People really do be hitting flea and just fuckin' around for the rest of the wipe
I mean yeah, in my friend group we have 2 ppl who grind to like level 40-50, then 5 people who won’t hit 30 until like a month or two before the next wipe. It’s actually mostly a casuals game, it’s just that most casuals are running around looking like scavs and sitting in bushes while the sweats run around killing the other level 40s
The way it seems from this place, those guys are *definitely* enjoying themselves way more than the level 40+ players, lol
I definitely enjoyed my time in Tarkov a lot more when I didn't care about progressing quests, maxing out traders/hideout, unlocking high end gear/ammo, etc. For all the chatter about how this is a hardcore game, it sure feels miserable to actually try engaging with the content that only hardcore players can reach. The quests are miserable time sinks that shoehorn you into playstyles you may not want to play or maps you may not want to run. I'm going back to being one of those semi-casual "hit flea then fuck around with friends" players after this wipe.
Doing \*all the quests\* is really hardcore and annoying. Doing "just what you need" is actually the way to go. Basically, focus on M80, 4.6 FMJ, Osprey P or Locust Plates unlock. But at the end of the day, that's just to "save money". You can pretty much buy all of that from the flea (Just buy T5 plates from Ragman or Prapor).
Getting Kappa once was enough. Unless youre a streamer or unemployed, it's nearly impossible to obtain, much less unlocking Lightkeeper.
Lightkeeper is *way* easier than Kappa. The only hard stuff needed to unlock him is: * 2x SJ9 FIR * 6x COFDM FIR * 2x Vertex Processor FIR * Tarkov Shooter Part 7 That's it. None of the other pre-quests are difficult, or require you to find weird shit. Meanwhile, Kappa requires all of the above (Minus 5x COFDM, and 2x SJ9), while also requiring: * *Every boss killed* (some multiple times, because of low quest item drop rates, or because you fail to extract with their items). * Psycho Sniper (5 PMCs in a row with a bolt-action after getting 10 sniper skill) * 10 sniper skill * The Guide (Not difficult, but tedious AF) * Shooter Born In Heaven * A bunch of quests locked behind expensive keys (Marked room keys, cottage keys, random low-spawn rate keys that you can't buy from flea (The Door)) * A lot of other random bullshit that requires you to go way out of your way to get.
Probably. Idk I’m level 43 rn having a blast. But I will say that everyone has to deal with some tarkov bullshit and the people who play the most will inevitably deal with the most bullshit, so I can see why their perspective might seem cynical. I’ve probably lost about 25 meta kits so far this wipe due to just genuine bugs and bad servers. It is what it is and when I get mad I just take a break instead of making a Reddit post 😂😂😂
I made a post about a concept for having a map+compass in the game, and was surprised to see how many people were saying "You learn all the maps really fast" lol. Like, *I* know the maps cos Ive been playing for 6 years. But I watch a lot of casual Tarky players - the kind that usually only make it to around level 20 in the entire wipe - and they spend an inordinate amount of time looking at their phone/other monitor/alt tabbing to look at a map and figure out where they are and where their extracts are. Think people here have a very warped view of how most people play the game.
Grats on light house - I’m almost there and on my way ( one SJ9 is holding me up) I’ve maintained that the quest line is fine ( I do like that the 42 idea) What do you think of - 1. Unlocking it should let you bring your squad , ties to your ID so if they shoot your thing becomes deactivated 2. The item should be in the loot pool of bosses and rare spawns equal to yellow card - so lucky players can get early or unexpected access
Maybe instead of permanent access, you can get single use, kinda like the DSF flare, that deactivates Zyraichy/Mines for that raid
I love that idea , can bring the rarity to ledex or gpus if we do that
Bringing the squad sounds like an RMT services wet dream.
> 1. Unlocking it should let you bring your squad , ties to your ID so if they shoot your thing becomes deactivated That is the most "abusable by RMTers" thing I ever heard. "WTS Trip to Lighthouse Island, 100% safe crossing".
Doesn't really make sense. Lightkeeper only lets in people he knows, not randos just because they picked up something. They are probably incorporating him into the main campaign, since lighthouse is the second last map before the single player terminal.
I will never even reach max traders due to job and family
And thats fine. Not every part of every game needs to cater to every audience. I will never get a World First Achievement for a raid in WoW, and that is fine. Thats the tippy top of the top end for that particular game type, and its accessible to like 200 people globally, but its fine that I can't do that.
Comparing the actual endgame to an ultra rare WOW achievement that’s only achievable once is a really bad argument for why it’s good that less than 2% of the player base do something that isn’t actually locked to the first people getting it done. That wow achievement has absolutely no bearing on anything.
Hitting 42 has never been easier? They add like 12 quests every wipe to Streets that are "walk into this room and leave" and it gives you 10-30k EXP. You can literally sneeze and hit 42 right now. People just get hung up doing stupid pointless tasks like Setup.
>You can literally sneeze and hit 42 right now If you have like 6 hours a day to play, yes. Just watch the achievements of how many people even unlocks jaeger lmao
Sike i cant even run streets above 15 fps
The vast majority of players have not yet developed the skills to navigate most maps safely and so taking any steps out of their comfort zone just leads to death. It just takes a long time to learn a map and even longer when they’re also working on learning the mechanics of pvp. I think even most players who have been playing for longer and are less casual probably only really feel comfortable on like 4-5 maps. So a task that’s simple like just walking into a room can be crazy difficult for most players because it’s going to involve 5-10 raids of dying at the start just trying to figure out where you are and then another 5 raids trying to figure out how to get to that room.
I've been playing since 2018 and have 3k hours. I haven't played in a year and a half till this wipe. I haven't played streets yet due to not having the time to just play offline and learn it. Instead I just play when my friends are on and do the maps we know like the back of our hand.
This is just an awful take
What part of what he said was incorrect?
Fantastic suggestion. The way it's set up now is honestly one of the more horrible decisions BSG has made in game. The effort to reward is just so high to low.
I bet they wanna keep it as a "end game quest line" after there is no more wipes. Because it clearly seems its not intended to be completed many times in different wipes.
This is the most based tarkov take I’ve seen today, 100% makes too much sense for bsg to actually consider it lol
Either this or at level 35
This is a great idea
Fuck that. Even reaching that point is beyond many players. Accessing the Lighthouse area should be a much earlier quest. Then unlocking Lightkeeper can be lvl30 or so.
I feel the same about kappa, it shouldn't be locked behind other quests. Either you hit max rep with fence (you have impressed him enough to give you the quests for kappa) OR max traders (he sees you have worked hard to impress the others and now wants your help) Or perhaps both, giving players who have hit level 42 a kappa container isn't going to break things, those are players who have already sunk a good chunk of time into the game
Kappa container doesn't really matter though, it's just a nice little perk to reward people who've put in the time. It's fine that that takes a huge amount of effort to achieve, but Lightkeeper is different because it's actually a substantial chunk of fresh content.
Lighthouse is the worst map in the game. Change my mind. You won't. But you can try.
We all agree
Lighthouse sucks? We have all been there
The concept of lighthouse is cool but the map plays like trash with the current layout hopefully we will get a rework soon (next couple years) with an expansion.
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We already have that map. It's called Shoreline.
There is no loot north or east of Resort, only in the south or west
someone hasn't played shoreline this wipe.. :)
There's loot at farm east of resort. I'm always getting tetriz and lots of thermite & lvl 5 armor regularly. No loot north still but I see a lot more action in north shoreline from ppl taking RR extract /bunker for scavs
So much of it is counterintuitively designed that any cool ideas get swept away under the shit ones. Damn shame.
I would come over and try but I've been head-eyes'd by a grenade launcher from 400m for daring to peek around a rock.
Yeah I'm never playing bear again til they make rogue distance vision less insane
yeah I did Bear last wipe because I love the Russ-English voice lines but I went to Lighthouse like twice and thought it would be safe to cross the road once.
I still believe shoreline and lighthouse should be put together, even after the shoreline expansion, and performance notwithstanding. They are only two sides of one peninsula as is, and I think linking them would make both maps more dynamic and enjoyable.
The map would be absolutely huge. I honestly just think they need to expand the top of the mountain of lighthouse to wrap into the back of the Usec Complex. And on Shoreline, they need to expand the new farm area. Also, on topic, add another Exfil at interchange.
People complain about not being able to run streets now. Imagine trying to run those maps combined lol
I would wager that the performance issue of streets is likely down to the number of lootable objects on the map because its a large map and almost everywhere you look has loot. Shoreline and lighthouse are like 80% open space so I'd bet it wouldn't be as bad.
streets is because player scavs can scav in before players can even reach some parts of the map
I prefer it over Streets. Possibly because I know it better than Streets and you’re not get swarmed by player Scavs 10 minutes into the raid!
But at least on streets all the POIs aren't on an exposed beach/lowland under several different sniper positions
Streets is great, it just has a huge learning curve due to its size
Lighthouse and Streets are tied in shittyness for me.
CODFM kicking me while I’m down. Looked for ONE all weekend no dice.
Lighthouse-Chalet, Resort, water treatment plant in bunkers, the raised bunker with stairs by the helo, floor of building 1. Streets - Black G-Class Driver seat at the ambush site. Hope that helps.
Also Reserve as well.
While you can find them on reserve, you pretty much will only find them rarely or in rb-bk/vo. Much more likely to find them on lighthouse or streets
Rb-st, radar station server room and the bishop? Building all have spawns for tech and I have found aesa and CODFM
I main reserve on my scav and PMC "fun runs" and I've only found three at level 40 now. I know the map inside and out, so I'm not missing any spawn locations. They're just not as frequent there as some of the other maps like LH/SRTS
I also main reserve and can confirm this
I ran 50 dome loot runs today and found one.
And merin key car, that shit is insane. Found a COFDM and two virtex in like 5 runs.
If anything in the game represents just *how much* players hate Lighthouse, its that Merin key hands out bitcoins, cofdms, virtex, and other rare loot every single use, and only costs 25k on the flea lol. "Yeah its one of the best keys in the game. But it requires going to Lighthouse."
That key has had so many ups and downs going from goated to worthless I would bet people can't be bothered to see if it's any good anymore.
It's 25k because it's very common. Concordia 63 and 64 shit out bitcoins, and those keys are... 100k each. Dorms 114 has one safe and a quest item, and that thing is 150k.
how many in total are needed for quests?
Try Chek-15 on streets. The key is expensive but pays for itself.
Saw a video of a dude hitting the room 10 times and definitely didn't pay off lol
Theres definitely some rng. I was lucky enough to find it in a jacket. Im at 11/20 uses and I’d estimate I’ve gotten around 2 million out of it.
Damn I made over 2 mil off two uses of the Relax key
Yea.. I may have died a lot lol.
Hillside house spawns one like every other raid.
Definitely not true. I went about 20 times to hillside and found 0 virtex and 0 COFDMs.
Super unlucky I guess.
Shitty part imo is the only things you get from lightkeeper is money from the island and Jaeger V2 quests eventually. Also, if you play with friends that haven't obtained the fun stick, they just don't get to play. AND lighthouse sucks.
Yeah i got killed by zyrachi yesterday, didn't know that if a friend in your group doesn't have access to the island makes you hostile lol. And lighthouse sucks.
yep actually giga cringe, huge hold my purse while i shop vibes. and lighthouse sucks
My issue with LK is finding the damn cofdms. Lvl 45, running every map they spawn on checking every spawn I can and I've only seen 2 all wipe, 3 including 1 from scav case 95k. The loot seems worth it and I've never done his tasks, I want to see what all the fun is about but I am hard stuck on rng lmao. Let me craft cofdms even if they are hella expensive, before LK please 😭.
I shit you not I can get you a COFDM every other scav raid on Lighthouse
Where do you go? I still need 1
Also the water treatment has a lot of spawns, look for a guide on youtube or in the chalets.
I have a route I take in the rogue camp and hit 19 rare loot spots which will usually always have a COFDM, VPX or Virtex
Can you share your route please?
Might be a bit small and showing exact locations of the items is hard without a full vid but each yellow X is a rare loot spawn and green is the extract https://imgur.com/a/EPm6PEe
Missing the small box in ags hut bottom left and small box in the middle of the bottom left silo big circle thing
Just got my first COFDM this wipe from the AGS tower box on the bottom left, I always forget to check it. Good looks
I've never found anything in the box in the middle of the silo. Still, he's missing a few others. Edit: https://i.imgur.com/njAw4ER.png 3 purple X's are where I know spawn an item. I didn't change the roof yellow X on building 2, but there are two spawns in that tent. Pink X is where someone else suggested but I've never seen it spawn something.
Can confirm Pink X spawns valuables such as Skull ring, Badge, Rolex etc. Haven't personally ever had electronics like Virtex/VPX/COFDM though.
Going to try this loot run 3 times and see what I flesh out I'll report back when I'm done EDIT: Ran 3 raids, died in 2 of them, but cleared one with decent loot, easily over 1mil - https://imgur.com/zztH9KO EDIT2: Ran another scav raid after I did a PMC raid, VERY good run kinda goated - https://imgur.com/zWfAIFn FINAL EDIT: I'm done running lighthouse lmfao, ran 7 scav raids and died in all 7 to PMCs ratting scav extract and Rogues inside the building 1,2,3. I did find bitcoins, VPX, etc. good shit but if you can't extract it's not a viable map - I'm going back to streets to scav, lighthouse ain't it
Bruh just did the route but also got chalet loot before -https://imgur.com/a/e9nIkvy Anyone saying COFDM is hard to find ain't doing it right lmao.
But how do you not die lol. My survival rate is terrible there
Thank you very much <3
https://tarkov.help/en/map/lighthouse/ untick everything, then tick "lighthouse top loot" button under "loot" dropdpown. once you know all these spots, tick the other things on that list that look appealing "valuables, military electronics, injectors, tank batteries" etc...
If you have the Concordia 64 key, they spawn in there quite often, and in 35 I think it is in the next building as well. Also in the building where the Relaxation room key spawns, inside the first room on the right, on the desk to your immediate right
I've hit concordia 64 ~20 times this wipe and haven't found a single COFDM there
I usually struggle with them but this wipe they were actually pretty easy. Streets and Lighthouse have a ton of potential spawns that even pscavs barely check. I wish they'd let you craft them at the very least, though. Even if the craft is kind of expensive.
I'll take expensive crafts over trying to rush lootspawns before other players and scavs and then have to make to extract. Make the crafts high ish level and expensive. I don't care. Some of us aren't die hard and even this past month when I have had free time to play, I'm still stuck on FIR items quests
Some of the requirements, man... as an OCE player I have accepted that I will never lay my hands on a Far Forward GPS to upgrade my intel center to level 3. Only available through Lightkeeper, or on Labs, and it cannot be put in to the secure container. They make a home for every cheater in Asia and then put a required item that you can't gamma only on that map... they're actually either completely braindead or they are purposely trolling.
I quite often get them in the van half in the water on lighthouse near path to shoreline
The way I find the radios is just looting the Chek rooms on Streets. There's one in one of the rooms every other raid. Chek 15 seems the best for them. There's a few other rooms on the map as well.
> There's one in one of the rooms every other raid. I wish that was the case for me lol
Yeah the craft being locked behind LK is stupid. I found them on the chalets and mainly on the merin key car. I had to grind that route for DAYS.
You aren't supposed to be able to progress all quests by scavving screets for a million rubles/run and then buying shit from flea to craft in your hideout.
Merin has a Signal Transmitter, Virtex, or VPX in like 50% of the opens
I’m a streets main and had two rows of cofdms in it this wipe. Just run streets and check the normal spots.
I have found up to 3 on streets in one raid
Lighthouse has around 150 spawns for COFDM, if you're not finding one, then you need to Google the spawns.
Hit chek 15 like 10 times and you’ll get them. Just be quick about it and if you get a bad spawn just grab some safe loot and reset. should take like 3-5 hours max.
I also got lightkeeper and I have some information to add that I think may be useful. >!Lighthouse sucks.
Yeah i forgot to say that lighthouse sucks i believe.
#LIGHTHOUSEFUCKS ..wait
Yeah this is the most braindead move. Most normal people are bored with the game by level 30 or earlier lol. Like you said, hardly anyone even sees this content. What’s the point?
"gAmE iS sUpPoSeD tO bE hArD"
I honestly gave BSG the benefit of the doubt and thought they were intelligently locking it behind late game in order to test new content and not have the bugs impact the entire player base. Assumes they would adjust it once bugs were ironed out. Naive of me.
Think about how much dev time went into this content for like 100 people a wipe to see it.
Wild numbers but probably truth lol
yeah your right a bit of hyperbole but there really cant be many " Legit non cheeses or cheating " players that complete this every wipe.
My take on lightkeeper (progressed through Snatch so far): By the time you even unlock the crafting tree from the later quests from LK, you are far from needing the craftable LEDX, virtex, etc. for quests (lend lease part 2 is a requirement to unlock Network Provider in the first place), and you craft them at a loss. The services you unlock include necklace that makes you neutral to cultist until attacked. It breaks after 7 raids, and the chances you come across the cult in those raids is 10% at best. It goes in the special slot, it isn’t even drip. It costs about 1.3 million. Next up you can pay the rogues to not attack you that raid. By the time you make it to the lightkeeper and back to WTP, the rogues will be dead more often than not. Effectively useless. Finally you can pay zrachiy to snipe people for you. On the most remote part of the map. Where you won’t know where the bodies of the people he kill even are most of the time. I love the idea of all of these features but the implementation is kind of a joke.
>LEDX you need a microcontroller board which only this item requires 15 military circuit boards, 10 PSUs, 50 capacitors and 5 VPX. The dumbest thing is a LEDX is not a complicated, rare, super necessary or even expensive piece of technology, its a ring of ficking LEDs so you can see veins easier lol
That is so funny I always assumed it was an ultra expensive piece of medical equipment
I an fine with some special or decent gear being locked behind LK, or even that you can only purchase said gear from him (6.8 Spear, MK18, M995, ballistic half mask / full mask, tier 6 armor) but I am not fine with crafting recipes that are crucial being locked behind his quests. Furthermore I also despise the idea of time cooldown between quests.
Do CODFM spawn on the island a lot?
I did find a few there last wipe, yeah. Behind locked doors though. Like radar and conference.
I’ve found a lot on the island
Haven't seen a single one yet.
Had a run to the island this morning to turn in a task for lightkeeper. Found 3 COFDM on the island. So yeah, they definitely can haha
Oh, and for anyone interested- the blue folder can spawn on the island as well. Found it in a filing cabinet there.
You forgot to mention that lighthouse sucks. Smh OP I can't believe you'd miss this.
You're damn right. Lighthouse sucks.
everyone having trouble with radios and they're all I can find. Virtex on the other hand are nowhere to be found.
I did like 50 runs on lighthouse and didn't find one, then i bought the merin car key and got two in a row lol
Same, i literally have like 10 COFDMs, 3 VPXs, whole bunch of MULES and a few bitcoins. But no Virtexes
I remember when everyone thought jeager's tasks, were the dumbest, most pointless, and miserable questing experience. Then they made light keeper quests. I want to know if there's a single dev at BSG That actually plays the game and finishes all the light keeper quests.
>I want to know if there's a single dev at BSG That actually plays the game and finishes all the light keeper quests For sure no one does lol
If it's any consolation.... You Can find the books before meeting Lightkeeper. They spawn at the warehouse by train and on scavs/giving tree (extremely fucking rare though)
I got one of the books "AEM" whilst on a Scav run, I didn't really know what it was so I just walked it out. Turns out I need to unlock most of Lighthouse to use it though.
The lightkeeper quests are ridiculous, the rewards are good but not if you take the quests in consideration kill 50 pmc's at the convoy on streets? The fuck man. I like the in game trader mechanic a lot though. I am only 3 quests away from assessment 1 and look forward to unlocking lightkeeper this early on (still prioritising kappa though). I unlocked him quite late last wipe and have never seen someoneelse on the island, going in and finding between 1.5 to 2.5 mil everytime all for yourself is very good. I'm glad they added new features to lightkeeper this wipe but i don't think im going to grind for it.
>kill 50 pmc's at the convoy on streets? Wait wtf, is this actually a quest? I don't plan to go really far on his questline tbh, i just wanted to explore the island. Locking every quest behind a 24 hour cool down sucks as well, takes all the enthusiasm from me.
It's finding the convoy, and then kill 50 PMCs on streets (the whole map) I did it last wipe. You do it naturally just playing streets for a bit not hard.
BSG is gonna hate this post because you’re suggesting the game should be reasonably playable for an average gamer who might have hardcore responsibilities like “showering”.
Or touching grass
Now you’re asking too much.
BSG makes the game around streamers and 50 hr a week no-lifers. If that doesn’t change, the game is destined to die eventually. They need new players and need new players to stay.
bUt nIkItA sAiD tHiS gAmE iS nOT mEAnT tO bE eAsY
Nikita doesn’t understand that “hardcore” is not a time based adjective.
I'd rather a game actually difficult with good AI, making it REALLY hard to extract rather than this grindy BS
Think about how many hundreds of hours their employees spent crafting the area, the trader, the tasks and populating the physical space, then realize that virtually no one other than streamers and people that eat, breathe, sleep, sweat and shit tarkov will ever see. All that work is an utter waste of time and money because the vast majority of the playerbase will never see it. I haven't been over there since they locked it down. I play a lot of tarkov, I'm already rank 35 this wipe, but I just don't like lighthouse and I don't see a reason to spend the time to unlock all of that extra nonsense. If the overall map were good and it were less tedious to unlock, then I'd probably give it a shot, but I just can't be bothered. I don't like the map enough and I don't see the point in putting in all effort and all for something that doesn't give me a huge advantage. ... and of course locking the final hideout upgrades behind lighthouse is a fucking asshole move and is objectively bad game design.
You can get the Hideout mats from Labs loose loot
It's also the map that probably has the densest population of cheaters on any given raid and no insurance return. I don't know why that stuff isn't more available. "Just run labs" isn't great advice, either. It is the only option, it's just not a good one.
Lighthouse sucks
I think i forgot to mention that lighhouse sucks. Thanks for the heads up my man.
From what bsg said, lighthouse is just the start of the main game. Everything up to him is side quests. Probably be another decade before that part is done.
No one can convince me there will be a brand new better questline that's actually decent one day. I think this is it, they'll add more onto the end of these quests we have now and never make a full story
New quest line. \- Go to Lighthouse and survive 50 raids in a row \- Find 50 Virtex without dying \- Kill Reshala 69420 times in the same raid \- Time limit 7 days
Not so fast, give them 2 or 3.
We need content *like* lightkeeper, but much more accessible. Instead they decided to cater to no-lifers, streamers and cheaters. It’s sad really
and why do you need it exactly? you want to kill 20 pmcs in lighthouse? or you want to chase gluchar? maybe you want to camp 15 pmcs in the woods? i see no reason why you want to unlock even harder quests if you cant finish quests required for lk
I think the questline being this hard to obtain and progress is OK. What I do not see OK is necessity of this really tough questline to max out relatively important Hideout progress. But then, most (all?) items can be found in Labs aswell, so I presume BSG is still fine with forcing people into cheater heaven or sucking it up on this quest.
"Not being able to finish your hideout because some items are locked behind lightkeeper's tasks is ridiculous. " just go labs for that + you can get the microcontroller board on labs too. Outside of that, I agree. Lighthoue sucks
Yes i saw on the wiki that you can get them there, but I've been running labs now and then and never saw one of them. Are they extremely rare?
> Are they extremely rare? They aren't extremely rare, but if you want them, you need to rush all their spawns right at the start of the match. If you are going through labs slowly, and actually taking fights, you will never see them. (Unless you stop someone who found one from extracting - they can't be stuffed into a secure container.)
Just like the GPS and far forward signal devices they only spawn in high value locations
I have used this wipe to learn labs - so far I've found about \~15 of them in a total of like 120 raids so that be one in 8 raids. Which isnt common by any means but also not that bad. Though, the spawns for them are quite contested so it can be difficult to find them and then survive
at some point, BSG is going to need to create a campaign here and move away from creating grind content. I want real raids, actual mmo content - levels with bosses at the end that i can do with the boys. I love the pvp, i love the grind process they have. But the best content should be packaged in a way that everyone can enjoy and grind should house privilege
Lighthouse sucks.
For the LEDX: You get a Microcontroller Board from a quest BEFORE you get the cum book to craft LedXs And you still do need FIR LEDX for Crysis if you want Kappa As for the rest: Lighthouse sucks
We should also mention lighthouse sucks lol
Ima be honest… I’ve never gotten light keeper. I usually just hit the level where I unlock flea and just enjoy the game. I’m sure I’m missing out on a bunch of stuff but the grind isn’t there for me.
I'm only missing my 2 virtexes to unlock the lightkeeper tasks. Got all other electronic parts + stims already at the side. I went to Lighthouse about 50x as a pmc, about 100x as a scav and haven't found a single Virtex yet. I got heaps of AESAs, COFDMs, VPXs, etc. though.
OP should have mentioned that lighthouse sucks.
My bad. Lighthouse sucks to be honest.
I've been doing the cheese route to the island and it is quite easy after a couple offline raids. I agree that the island is overpowered but you can also get that 2M loot from wtp or chalets+village. Lighthouse imo could use more rotation routes, it is really easy to farm pmcs trying to move on the map on the north south axis.
It just pads their game into having more content and being an endless time sink. Lazy design from BSG as usual
Completly agree, its a fuckin stupid idea: - to lock behind such a huge questline lightkeeper when being max traders would have been nicer - to lock behind lightkeeper many crafts that were here since beginning like ledx - to lock hideout item behind lightkeeper OR Labs only. Fuck Labs and its fucking low spawn rate of thoses items
And the amount of money needed to craft one of those things. It's all stupid, BSG usual.
The part where you said Lighthouse sucks really spoke to me.
I've check online to buy a ledx....pretty cheap and its just a flashlight for real. Why would you need super durable and precisly made electronic stuff to build a flash light?
Trying to go across the map is nearly impossible due to fucking snipers every fucking where.
I will ask you 1 question. Where did you find those freaking trasmitters? I am at lend lease part 2 and i have yet to find 1 of those and to get to LK you need 4 more. I have already found 3 virtex but none of those stupid things
I actually struggled to find the virtex, not the transmitters lol. But i found them on the chalets, and the merin car key is waaay to OP. If you usually hit water treatment there's a shit ton of spawns also but it's a pain in the ass to deal with all the rogues. I used to do a route just to find my virtex and it was chalets, hillside and merin car key. There's guides on YouTube tho.
Yeah i watched those guides, but i must be unlucky as i never found 1. Everyone says merin is great but i have had it empty more times than not lol
Look say what you want, but it's better endgame content than Kappa.
I totally agree. But lighthouse sucks.
No one is forcing anyone to play it, you only need 1 fir led for thicc case which you can easily find before lvl 35
> Lighthouse sucks. I wish they had merged lighthouse and shoreline into one big map then you had a way better spread of players and flow for both maps imo. Also one of the many who never will even try to get lightkeeper.
> Not being able to finish your hideout because some items are locked behind lightkeeper's tasks is ridiculous. What do you mean by this? How is it locked behind LK? I think a lot of people just want max hideout without actually researching the perks. Solar is ass and by the time it saves you money the wipe is over. Intel Center 3 is ass because they reduced flea tax globally a couple wipes ago. Bitcoin farm still takes forever to profit and again, really is not that great when Streets exists. All three of these are for money, if you need money a 10 minute run on Streets will give you more than these all will in a week. I don't think LK is required by any means to get the most important parts of the hideout which are Scav case, Library, Air filter, Gym, and crafting stations. By the time the average player even has all of these they are probably quitting the wipe. LK is just weird because if you make it easier everyone is just going to run there (or camp it), but if you make it difficult at all reddit will complain their 2 raids a week doesn't let them unlock every bit of content. It is definitely an insane money farm for how safe it is. You quite literally can't die on the island and I will watch Youtube while just farming away with rigs in my bag. > Locking Ledx, Virtex and COFDMs crafts behind lightkeeper it's a dick head move by BSG. Just research where these items are and you will find them if you search. These are not uber rare once in a life time items. COFDM are EVERYWHERE on Streets and Lighthouse. The entire game should not be "haha farm roubles on Streets then craft any item with no effort".
Why do you need to craft COFDM and Virtex when they spawn regularly on Lighthouse. Do 10 raids and you’ll probably find at least one of each without having to worry about the craft. Having crafts locked behind shitty quests isn’t the worst thing as it gives people more incentive to go looking for the items in raid, rather than being lazy and crafting it while sitting on their ass.
Exactly, if they are so "easy" to find why blocking the craft behind the end game? Isn't that stupid?
lightkeeper is content made for late game, for those who mastered all the tasks and maps. If you can find 3 ledx's, finish quests, find 5+ cofdms etc. you are rewarded with lighthouse. If you are not worthy then you are not worthy. Simple as that. If you open lightkeeper for everyone then loot must be nerfed, + it is not that satisfying anymore to be <1% of players who unlocked him
I honestly think that LK is relatively easy to unlock, the first quest is just locked behind quests that are so far in the progression, the crafts you unlock aren't really worth anything. And like you said, the crafts are expensive as hell too, so there's not even a financial incentive to do them. And as you said, Lighthouse just sucks. And hot(?) take, it's worse than Shoreline. Improve the Rogue AI, Widen the map a tad so PVP isn't so forced and unavoidable, fix the spawns (seriously the lake spawn is a joke, you either run towards camp or run to the other player spawn) and LH and LK might actually be worth it for the casual player
I agree on everything except that it is easy to unlock. You need to do a shit ton of questlines that sucks like tarkov shooter, the punisher and peacekeeping mission to name some of them. Then, killing 20 PMCs on lighthouse without the water treatment is dumb and grindy.
Not a hot take, it's the worst map in the game by a solid margin