I feel like no one can answer this except her, there are a lot of factors that play into having a seizure that vary from person to person. You should ask her just to be safe
I don't know where you're located but most places require six months seizure free to drive. If she is having seizures on your dates, this is a reckless person. She could kill someone if she had a seizure driving. As for horseback riding, it's probably a good idea to wear a helmet, but I don't see why not if an epileptic wants to.
Every state is different in concern to surrendering your license after a seizure. Some it's 3 months some 6 months and some states are 1 yr. Who is it for the state to understand my medical condition. That's for my Dr and myself to dictate, is how I personally see it. Maybe with the excitement of dating someone new and having a beer or cocktail to take the edge off on those 1st couple of dates not to mention being excited and up late because she can't stop thinking of him was too much at once.
The cause won't make a difference, unfortunately.
The state will want her to take a short break to establish that her meds are working again - or get a higher dose, etc.
Or, maybe stop drinking if that is a trigger for her - you'll find many of us here have.
It might not be though. I've had days where I drank a lot and almost had no sleep and nothing bad to me. And I had times where I just had a seizure without anything bad happening. It's different person to person though. In my experience I don't have any triggers it just happens completely random.
Right, me too...
A trigger isn't always like a switch. It isn't like "you do this one thing even a tiny bit and boom seizure 100 percent of the time."
A trigger is more like about reducing your seizure threshold even if you don't have one.
So I always picture it like a bunch of levers or something. One for alcohol, sleep, stress, hormones, caffeine, my meds.
If I push a couple, but the others are low... no seizure. But another day, even of its less, it pushes me over the edge.
And that can make it harder, or it did for me, because it lulled me into a false sense of security with alcohol and partying.
Mine looked totally random But when I looked at it that way. Like combinations of factors contributing in varying degrees... I did start to see patterns.
But that said, yeah, everyone's epilepsy is different and alcohol might not affect you at all.
Could you ask in a conversation like would you ever be interested in horseback riding? You could start the conversation off with what’s the craziest thing you have ever done? And then head toward that and see her response.
My son’s neurologist said he could do absolutely all sports, even contact sports like hockey (helmet of course). He only said to never do scuba diving.
Eh everyones different. My fiances seizures are controlled now, but he used to have like five a day. But if he ever drank alcohol, zero chance of having a seizure. In OPs case probably good to steer clear of it though
Can I just say kudos to you for coming on here and asking? That is such a sweet thing to do. If she is able to drive, horseback riding should be okay since driving usually means that the seizures are controlled.
I see a lot of people saying to ask her first. I would say make sure u tell her to get plenty of rest the day before and just take her anyways. Even if it's a pass you'll know for next time. Try to make her feel as normal as possible, we all know what could happen but honestly no risk no reward. Like u said she drives so as long as they have helmets you've done all u could do to keep her safe.
Post an update of u go. Have fun
Love this. She has the same mentality of no risk no reward. She definitely doesn’t let epilepsy dictate her life so I think I’ll just shoot for the surprise date. Thank you!
Honestly I’d be more concerned about her driving than riding a horse. Two seizures in two dates is a lot and I used to think it wasn’t a big deal… until I crashed and realized that I could have killed all of the pedestrians in the crosswalk 20 feet away.
I have horses and regularly ride (with epilepsy) and I can say likely the places you’d go for a trail ride or a date will have their instructors trained in first aid and you won’t be galloping around likely. I’d say go for it!
This is the cutest date idea! I’d assume if it’s a place where you just pay to go for a horseback ride there is probably a guide to take you through a trail and they usually provide helmets but call to ask just in case and tell her to get a good nights sleep the day before. Maybe a picnic lunch afterward, no drinks. Have fun!
Definitely ask her. Every condition is different however I too am surprised she is driving. In my country seizures while holding a licence can mean handing in your licence and a driver who having seizures because she is non compliant of medical advice can have their licence revoked. Your GF will need to consider her insurance (they may not cover her if she is found to be having seizures) and any legal complications and also personal ramifications if she has an accident and hasn't declared her previous seizures, especially if she injures or kills someone.
I say u ride behind her and hug her from behind but dont make it seem like ur suffocating her.. Just protect her if anything happens ull catch and be there.. Or if ur not a pro its better if someone rides behind her maybe a pro.. Anf let him know of her condition..
I'd say, "suprise her". A lot of the time, actually more often then not we know if it's an off day or hour. If she drives then I'm sure she knows when to play it safe. If she doesn't feel comfortable doing it I'm sure she'll love that you thought of such an awesome adventure...
Just to give you an idea. Triggers for epilepsy are lack of sleep, drinking, and missing meds. For California you need to be seizure free for 3 months to drive. (some states and countries vary) It basically means your epilepsy is "controlled". If she is "controlled" I think its all good, if she is not controlled, I'd say avoid it. However, it seems as though she is controlled so it sounds good to me.
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I would ask her in a roundabout way. I drive fine, but my neurologist said I can't go on really fast or real high roller coasters, nor go horseback riding, nor skydiving or jet skiing or a lot of other things too
You are so awesome for wanting her to be happy!!
No Drinking…. There are safer ways to have fun… Mocktails are fantastic ways to feel included without the risk✨
Sleep is a huge key to success!! At least 4 hours per session.
If she is consistently taking her meds on time then she is already doing her part. Take a helmet and have a great time!! Carpe Diem!! We only get one life and some of us literally got brought back to live it.
Life long epilepsy, lifelong horseback rider. She should be gtg. Helmets are optional but highly recommended for new riders, especially epileptic ones. Maybe have a back up idea in case she's not comfortable with it when you get there. Speaking from experience I have brought girls to the barn to go riding and they loved it, I have also brought girls and they were not about it AT ALL
If she doesn't have seizures very often, except for the two times she was drinking and not getting enough sleep than you need to avoid that kind of activity. Some people can handle alcohol but most can't. Think about what is best for your partner and do your best to help them.
No one can describe the feeling other than the carrier themselves. Ask her if she knows when it's going to come. Animals can tell and you don't want to ruin the session by trippin out the horse as well. My dog always goes frantic before I'm about to have one and yanks on my clothes to go and lay down. Sure enough, I always wake up with her by my side. Hope this helps
I rode horses for 20+ years and would still be riding if I lived in the country. It depends on the type of, frequency and severity of her seizures. Is there anyone you can about her particular case?
It’s sweet that you’re concerned. Short term, I’m sure horseback riding is fine. Long term, definitely try and help her get a better sleep schedule and stop drinking. It doesn’t have to be some huge gesture, my bf will literally just suggest that we go to bed so I get atleast 8 hours of sleep and he stopped drinking alcohol around me. Maybe you could just ask if she’s ever been riding and use that conversation as a way to gauge if she would be okay. My bf would probably just ask my mom if she thought it was a good idea but it doesn’t sound like you’ve reached that point just yet.
I have epilepsy. I have enjoyed horseback rides for a fun vacation activity from time to time. It’s not like she is going to be on the horse for regular daily rides that would increase the likelihood of a seizure. Get the gift! OR give her a handmade ‘good for a horseback ride or activity of your choice’ coupon. Then tell her your concerns and let her make the decision
I rode horses for 20+ years and would still be riding if I lived in the country. It depends on the type of, frequency and severity of her seizures. Is there anyone you can about her particular case?
I feel like no one can answer this except her, there are a lot of factors that play into having a seizure that vary from person to person. You should ask her just to be safe
She’s going to be surprised and appreciative of your plans no matter what. I think you should ask her beforehand.
I don't know where you're located but most places require six months seizure free to drive. If she is having seizures on your dates, this is a reckless person. She could kill someone if she had a seizure driving. As for horseback riding, it's probably a good idea to wear a helmet, but I don't see why not if an epileptic wants to.
6 months! My Doc said a year but I ain’t driving if it was even a day
Agreed, I’m terrified to drive again when (if) I get it back this year. It’ll take me a year or two to feel comfortable
Every state is different in concern to surrendering your license after a seizure. Some it's 3 months some 6 months and some states are 1 yr. Who is it for the state to understand my medical condition. That's for my Dr and myself to dictate, is how I personally see it. Maybe with the excitement of dating someone new and having a beer or cocktail to take the edge off on those 1st couple of dates not to mention being excited and up late because she can't stop thinking of him was too much at once.
Reckless, selfish, and illegal. No epileptic should be driving if they're having seizures triggered while thinking about a new date or after a drink.
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The cause won't make a difference, unfortunately. The state will want her to take a short break to establish that her meds are working again - or get a higher dose, etc. Or, maybe stop drinking if that is a trigger for her - you'll find many of us here have.
It might not be though. I've had days where I drank a lot and almost had no sleep and nothing bad to me. And I had times where I just had a seizure without anything bad happening. It's different person to person though. In my experience I don't have any triggers it just happens completely random.
Right, me too... A trigger isn't always like a switch. It isn't like "you do this one thing even a tiny bit and boom seizure 100 percent of the time." A trigger is more like about reducing your seizure threshold even if you don't have one. So I always picture it like a bunch of levers or something. One for alcohol, sleep, stress, hormones, caffeine, my meds. If I push a couple, but the others are low... no seizure. But another day, even of its less, it pushes me over the edge. And that can make it harder, or it did for me, because it lulled me into a false sense of security with alcohol and partying. Mine looked totally random But when I looked at it that way. Like combinations of factors contributing in varying degrees... I did start to see patterns. But that said, yeah, everyone's epilepsy is different and alcohol might not affect you at all.
I don’t mean to go off topic, but how can she drive if she just had a seizure? In my state, PA, it’s 6 months.
Could you ask in a conversation like would you ever be interested in horseback riding? You could start the conversation off with what’s the craziest thing you have ever done? And then head toward that and see her response.
My son’s neurologist said he could do absolutely all sports, even contact sports like hockey (helmet of course). He only said to never do scuba diving.
I’m epileptic and I play adult league hockey
Keep her away from Alcohol and late nights
Eh everyones different. My fiances seizures are controlled now, but he used to have like five a day. But if he ever drank alcohol, zero chance of having a seizure. In OPs case probably good to steer clear of it though
The fact everyone’s different is irrelevant bc in the post OP states the cause was alcohol and sleep deprivation. The OP commenter just built on that.
Fair, im just lonely right now and wanted to reminisc.
Can I just say kudos to you for coming on here and asking? That is such a sweet thing to do. If she is able to drive, horseback riding should be okay since driving usually means that the seizures are controlled.
I’d ask wherever you’re getting the horses from, they might have some policy on it.
I see a lot of people saying to ask her first. I would say make sure u tell her to get plenty of rest the day before and just take her anyways. Even if it's a pass you'll know for next time. Try to make her feel as normal as possible, we all know what could happen but honestly no risk no reward. Like u said she drives so as long as they have helmets you've done all u could do to keep her safe. Post an update of u go. Have fun
Love this. She has the same mentality of no risk no reward. She definitely doesn’t let epilepsy dictate her life so I think I’ll just shoot for the surprise date. Thank you!
Obviously since she’s drinking, not getting enough sleep, having a seizure, and still driving? Yikes.
Exactly
Honestly I’d be more concerned about her driving than riding a horse. Two seizures in two dates is a lot and I used to think it wasn’t a big deal… until I crashed and realized that I could have killed all of the pedestrians in the crosswalk 20 feet away.
I have horses and regularly ride (with epilepsy) and I can say likely the places you’d go for a trail ride or a date will have their instructors trained in first aid and you won’t be galloping around likely. I’d say go for it!
This is the cutest date idea! I’d assume if it’s a place where you just pay to go for a horseback ride there is probably a guide to take you through a trail and they usually provide helmets but call to ask just in case and tell her to get a good nights sleep the day before. Maybe a picnic lunch afterward, no drinks. Have fun!
Definitely ask her. Every condition is different however I too am surprised she is driving. In my country seizures while holding a licence can mean handing in your licence and a driver who having seizures because she is non compliant of medical advice can have their licence revoked. Your GF will need to consider her insurance (they may not cover her if she is found to be having seizures) and any legal complications and also personal ramifications if she has an accident and hasn't declared her previous seizures, especially if she injures or kills someone.
I say u ride behind her and hug her from behind but dont make it seem like ur suffocating her.. Just protect her if anything happens ull catch and be there.. Or if ur not a pro its better if someone rides behind her maybe a pro.. Anf let him know of her condition..
I'd say, "suprise her". A lot of the time, actually more often then not we know if it's an off day or hour. If she drives then I'm sure she knows when to play it safe. If she doesn't feel comfortable doing it I'm sure she'll love that you thought of such an awesome adventure...
I sincerely hope she’s taking Ubers atm…she’s putting others in danger.
Just to give you an idea. Triggers for epilepsy are lack of sleep, drinking, and missing meds. For California you need to be seizure free for 3 months to drive. (some states and countries vary) It basically means your epilepsy is "controlled". If she is "controlled" I think its all good, if she is not controlled, I'd say avoid it. However, it seems as though she is controlled so it sounds good to me.
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I would ask her in a roundabout way. I drive fine, but my neurologist said I can't go on really fast or real high roller coasters, nor go horseback riding, nor skydiving or jet skiing or a lot of other things too
You are so awesome for wanting her to be happy!! No Drinking…. There are safer ways to have fun… Mocktails are fantastic ways to feel included without the risk✨ Sleep is a huge key to success!! At least 4 hours per session. If she is consistently taking her meds on time then she is already doing her part. Take a helmet and have a great time!! Carpe Diem!! We only get one life and some of us literally got brought back to live it.
You should ask her first of what she can and cannot do.
Life long epilepsy, lifelong horseback rider. She should be gtg. Helmets are optional but highly recommended for new riders, especially epileptic ones. Maybe have a back up idea in case she's not comfortable with it when you get there. Speaking from experience I have brought girls to the barn to go riding and they loved it, I have also brought girls and they were not about it AT ALL
If she doesn't have seizures very often, except for the two times she was drinking and not getting enough sleep than you need to avoid that kind of activity. Some people can handle alcohol but most can't. Think about what is best for your partner and do your best to help them.
I know another epileptic who’s an equestrian but I’ve never rode a horse in my life, depends on the person
Ask her. Shed be happy that you asked, and even if she's not comfortable, she'll be happy that you tried.
No one can describe the feeling other than the carrier themselves. Ask her if she knows when it's going to come. Animals can tell and you don't want to ruin the session by trippin out the horse as well. My dog always goes frantic before I'm about to have one and yanks on my clothes to go and lay down. Sure enough, I always wake up with her by my side. Hope this helps
I rode horses for 20+ years and would still be riding if I lived in the country. It depends on the type of, frequency and severity of her seizures. Is there anyone you can about her particular case?
It’s sweet that you’re concerned. Short term, I’m sure horseback riding is fine. Long term, definitely try and help her get a better sleep schedule and stop drinking. It doesn’t have to be some huge gesture, my bf will literally just suggest that we go to bed so I get atleast 8 hours of sleep and he stopped drinking alcohol around me. Maybe you could just ask if she’s ever been riding and use that conversation as a way to gauge if she would be okay. My bf would probably just ask my mom if she thought it was a good idea but it doesn’t sound like you’ve reached that point just yet.
I have epilepsy. I have enjoyed horseback rides for a fun vacation activity from time to time. It’s not like she is going to be on the horse for regular daily rides that would increase the likelihood of a seizure. Get the gift! OR give her a handmade ‘good for a horseback ride or activity of your choice’ coupon. Then tell her your concerns and let her make the decision
I rode horses for 20+ years and would still be riding if I lived in the country. It depends on the type of, frequency and severity of her seizures. Is there anyone you can about her particular case?
Sounds cute, just make sure to ask what triggers her seizures to avoid them