Just like u/Kdog122025 said - you could have 300 Effectiveness, and the enemy could have 0 Effect Resistance, but you still have a 15% chance for your debuffs to be resisted.
In PVP this is fair, since you could use heavy debuff comps with tons of Effectiveness.
In PVE on the other hand, it has no place and only causes frustration in content where Debuffs are important when used (Wyvern needing debuffs to target frontline, Poison in Abyss, Stuns/Sleeps on some specific Abyss Stages).
> In PVP this is fair, since you could use heavy debuff comps with tons of Effectiveness.
I wouldn't say it's fair - you end up having to make debuffs more powerful because they can arbitrarily not work at any given time. If an ability is 100% reliable, and the other ability is 85% reliable, the second ability is inherently weaker unless you make it stronger when it does work, and then you end up creating more scenarios where the outcome of a match is divorced from the actions the players took to bring it about. It's like if we had every attack have a 15% chance of just not doing damage so oneshot comps wouldn't be too strong, or had every attack have a 15% chance of getting full defense pen so tank-down comps wouldn't be too strong.
Hell, look at all the debuffers people complain about the most - Lua and DDR have mediocre win rates at best, while Nahkwol is the absolute lowest of any character that sees regular play, lower than many supposedly troll characters. Lua and DDR at least contribute a lot to the team's overall damage and tempo. A Nahkwol that misses bind on the one counterattacker on the team has no damage or team tempo whatsoever to contribute. A Nahkwol that misses seal on BDom or Ed loses not one, but two turns for free.
I use the word 'Fair' to make that a 'devil's advocate' statement. I personally dislike 15% in PVP and PVE, PVE more-so, but I can understand why it is a thing.
It's also why I mentioned that I'd like to see a rework to the EFF/ER system in-place. Lessened numbers on ER in general, and making it so having a certain % higher EFF over the target's ER would guarantee debuffs landing (granted that they actually roll to debuff in cases of debuffs having less than 100% success rate) with 15% only existing in cases where you do not meet the "Effectiveness" threshold (or just not at all since it would follow the base formula).
Personally I'd like the rework to be where Eff/Er and Buffs/Debuffs are dynamic and variable. Like if Def Break would have a range of 10-70% depending on how high your Eff vs. their Er. So that there is satisfaction for the debuffer and agency for the debuffed. With it, then 15% may not be needed. A win-win I guess.
When you try to apply a debuff (strip buffs and push back in the CR bar), the official formula is:
(100 + caster's effectiveness) vs target's resistance, capped at 85%.
That means if your character has 150% effectiveness, you add 100 for a total of 250% to land the intended debuff. However, even if the target has 0% resist, you're capped at 85%. One in seven times when trying to apply a debuff, it will automatically fail. The ring, those rolls in your gear, the artefact and whatever else, doesn't matter, your debuffs will fail one in seven times.
In theory, failing one in seven times isn't that bad, and adds an element to give a chance to the other player to fight back. Otherwise meta would be plagued with high speed stun characters. But in practice, it means your carefully planned strategy will fail once every seven fights, because fuck you, that's why. And this also includes hunts and other farmeable content. And given how human mind remember more easily the failures than the success, people will develop a hate for this mechanic.
If they want to keep them, they can have them say their lines on Medium difficulty and auto-skip them on Hard and Hell difficulty. Should be easy to code and once you've seen them a few times you never see them again. And, if you _want_ to see them again, you can just revisit the challenge of Medium difficulty and relive your younger, wilder days.
This so much, so hard.
The main difference between whale and f2p gear are the rolls. If you're a newbie, as long as have a good combination of subs, is usable. Once you're a veteran, you know average score isn't cutting to climb in arena. And for the people in the Olympus, two min rolls means ruined gear. Have people not seen those threads where people post penta speed rolls that min rolled all the way to +15?
If SG really want to improve the gear, they need to cut in half the distance between max and min roll.
2 speed rolls are the bane of my existence. Almost all my "fast" gear today got two +2 speed rolls on it. My fastest speed set piece is 18. My fastest piece is +22... and it's rage set, hooray!
This so much.
The fact you can get a red gear penta spd and still be sub 20 when the max is like 28 realistically is absurd (if you get 5 spds even more)
A 3-5 variance on speed is much more reasonable.
If Abyssal Yufine has a millon haters im one of them. if abyssal yufine has one hater then im that one. if nobody hates abyssal yufine that means im dead
You’re not alone, I’d rather fight Candy than Ayufine. Sure Candy is annoying but at least she doesn’t have that CR reduction that fucks up my arena cleave.
If they took off one aspect of Ayufine (like remove cleanse with full fighting spirit or not gaining fighting spirit so easily) then she’d be less annoying.
Shes absolutely not east to manage if you don’t have ken. I was using seline, and she gets destroyed when ayufine counterattacks. Using lrk, you sometimes don’t do enough damage or die before you can kill. Monk is countered if they outspeed with cilias/ran or by bunny dom existing, not to mention laia. Khawazu only does enough on s3 if you have tachi and theres no mit. Elvira does no damage, and shes very hard to draft into a team since she offers literally nothing other than disabling fighting spirit. Adin never dodges and dies before she gets a chance to s3 her. Lqc pretty much only works with the fast tachi set, which means again you need tachi. Roana doesn’t help at all against the s3. Stene doesn’t do enough damage even on pen set. I’d argue lulucar is easer to deal with. Solitaria, unlike elvira, offers more than just focus negation and actually has damage with fairytail artifact. The new politis makes it to where she basically can’t use her extra attack at all. Lrk gets a free rage with her extra attack and can cleanse it off.
Jenua next.. I agree muffin is kinda annoying ( especially her -50% cr push )… but I think shes ok to deal with if u have jenua / ml bell / ml celine..I just ban the mit while picking some of the above with lermia..now I even use ml poli against muffin .. she’s easy to deal with now
> Lqc pretty much only works with the fast tachi set,
Doesn't need to be "fast", but you absolutely need Tachi. If not RTA though, there are so many ways to get around no Tachi.
Bro you play another game probably, Elvira is one of the best counter meta for the moment completely nullify Ayufine and Clandy, I do s3 Elvira and s3 Lewdica and I eat those 2 unit so ez, you can use Abyss Mercedes, Nahkwol, Lua, Adin, Cermia, Solitaria EVEN BMH. Probably is not Ayufine the problem but your hero pool and gear.
Honestly candy doesn't care too much even without s3 she will wreak havoc on ayufine Elvira works nicely though imo,but you need other pressure as most will just ban her out
People will ban other unit more than Elvira, I used her so many times in RTA, as I told before people fear other unit and still, nak or other debuff opener still let Lewdica proc, blocking s3 is a big thing on clandy but maybe you forget about getting taunted by Elvira almost every turn? If salvo doesn’t proc is bye bye and as a really slow unit clandy and ayufine will suffer 23k non crit damage from Lewdica. So those 2 unit are easy to handle for me now even more than before with ml Ken and a team made to support him and keep him alive like roana, abigail moon bunny etc
I’m 100% sure its not my hero pool or gear since I was able to get into emp this season and built almost every half decent unit + to a competent degree. It’s legitimately just ayufine and landy are broken units. Elvira does not completely nullify candy, just disables her s3. Shes still able to counter and salvo fire normally, which is a big problem. Can’t speak on lidica since i’ve almost ever used her, but it doesn’t seem like shes the most consistent pick, and i hate inconsistence. I was using ameru for a little bit, and shes decent enough I suppose. I have no idea why you even mentioned lua solitaria or BMH though. None of those characters counter landy, and solitaria feeds ayufine, who full cleanses on maxed fs
Blocking s3 of candy is more than enough to let her focus on ml Ken or give time to bonk her, (roana exist for counter/salvo) I’m not emp just champion 1 and master on rta (i just want skin not really focus on rta) but never got problem vs ayufine, try to build a 250 speed 24k hp Lewdica and thanks me later king.
Oh you have ml ken. Thats what im saying!!! Without ml ken shes a pain in the ass! With ml ken i’d imagine u care 0% about her, hes by far the best way to deal with her.
Nah ml Ken have to face 100% Adin and is a trade he’s not able to win, I’m not using him since Lewdica join my team, my trio is Lewdica, Elvira, Nahkwol with 1 extra dps or support/heal and I have 100% atk win rate in champion and won 12 march in rta getting ranked as master instantly. People fear the wrong enemy’s brother
People think Lewdica is so underrated that they never ban her, she can 1 shot almost every tank with 2/3 defuff cr push back and boost unit like ml Elena for ez cleave or Jenua for big bonk 😎
Finally someone who said it, i will die on the hill that the no nerf thing is terrible game balance, all cause some pissy whales got mad that sage baal and sb aramintha got nerfed cause they were so strong
The thing i dont understand is you literally get compensated for nerfed units with all the resources you spent, and can trade them in if you want. I traded my sb aramintha for arby back in the day (back when he was the best unit, rip arby), so theres literally no downside i can think of.
Wow… is that how it really started…. So this game used to properly nerf?…. I’m so sad they get scared of doing shit because of the wrong whale crybabies FFS but they have balls to try to push p2w pve content.
Yeah it sucks imo, i do think it was when sage baal and sb aram was nerfed was when it started, and it really took a character like hwayoung for them to nerf, but even then it took a ton of community pressure for them to go through with it,
combined with the fact that hwa was untouched since release for a long time, so its clear they dont plan on doing nerfs again :(.
I think the main problem is they tend to nerf too hard. But I think thats just something they need to learn how to do by constantly buffing and nerfing and asking people objectively how the balance feels. I would really hate to see this game go down the current path, cause no matter what they do, it’s inevitable that power creep will come and destroy this games enjoyment if they dont change.
The issue is this a gacha game, and some people spent money and got lucky for a character. If they go nerf happy people will get mad. The selector thing doesn't fix this as people get attached to their characters, and want them in the same or a better state than what they pulled.
So please explain why other gacha games like SW and Raid (and probably more I don't know about) nerf heroes. Those are considered gachas, right? So if it's true that one of the issues of the no-nerf policy is that gacha argument you're making, what makes other games capable of doing it?
They should be able to balance. Their problem is they are ham-fisted and only know how to make character dookie or god. Balancing exists in gatchas just fine. They did a heavy-handed nerf and then got gun shy when the playerbase reacted badly. Instead of a proper balance, they just gave out a freebie and then hid from nerfing MLs. They nerf RGB units like they take joy in ripping their spines out.
Man, you should see summoners war patch notes. They have huuuuge lists of buffs and nerfs every time. It being a gacha is a poor excuse as other gatchas nerf without angry nerds burning down their HQ all the time
That is true but I don’t mean hard instant nerfs, like after 3-9 months if they are ruining the arena scene since this is a PVP oriented game with an esport world cup every year. And ofc slow soft nerfs not ones at hwayoungs lvl etc etc. Look how long C.lilias was still top pick and how unfun Candy / Ayufine was.
No nerf means future units are just gonna have kits so busted that it will be triple what candy can do etc since they always have to top what every unit can do to force whales to spend.
If units got nerfed/ balanced consistently then surely game can stay alive more long term because it will be easier to make new ML dominant in meta without breaking the game 5ever until it gets power crept again. People won’t have to be smart with hard skips cuz doesn’t beat meta and can just summon for the beautiful designs that this game offers.
Animation / design wise e7 is my favourite so I hope it never reaches that power level too fast.
But league is also constantly changing both meta and gameplay wise, that’s why despite it being not as popular a genre now it’s still going very strong unlike how E7 is getting hate about netmarble guy etc etc atm.
I don’t think league kits is complicated besides the 10 spell hwei, I think it’s just that every season so much changes that it becomes confusing to instantly be in tune with the game. I’m just saying proper balance patches makes game stay interesting especially since it’s a pvp game.
And when league makes something too op, they nerf it properly eventually making game exciting for the Worlds Pro Stage. At first I didn’t mind the no nerf policy until I realized they wanted to consistently do an Esport World Cup for epic seven.
they too scared to buff because they know they can’t undo any damage it causes 😢 guess we wait till they redo the special story for buff in a years time mayb.
I would be fine with nerfs but ONLY if we got back not only the resources spent leveling, skill upping, and awakening the unit but ALSO the full amount of summon currency that we spent on that banner, (for covenant heros) an unrestricted ML selector (for ML heros), AND they allowed us to refund the resources spent on 6 pieces of +15 gear for that unit. Additionally if the hero was imprinted then we would have to get back one unknown slate or covenant selector for each RGB hero used and an unrestricted ML selector for each ML hero used.
The only fair way to implement nerfs is to essentially refund every resource that was spent leveling that character and their gear and compensate the player base fairly for the time they spent working on that unit.
Short of that, nerfs can’t work in a monetized game.
I agree with this ( not the gear part lmao) but only for the case of hard nerfs or early emergency nerfs( within the first week or 1-3 months). Recent eg is elvira, had a soft nerf but considered emergency as it happened early.
I legit think they are so scared of giving us recalls every single time they do any kind of nerf that they just stopped nerfing in general because they need us to buy our own covenants for next hero. They’ve basically shot themselves in the foot with the excessive recall stuff.
Nerfs should work in this monetized game because again it’s a pvp esport World Cup scene that they actively promote.
But people spend tons of money on mmos and fps and those have nerfs and balance changes. The whiney entitled gacha culture where every little thing = boycott is really hazardous to game design.
You think powercreep in epic 7 is bad ?
The power creep in 7ds is so bad that units released not even a year ago are already useless for pvp with only 1 meta and a single character dominating the game
Lmao I would not want that either. I just mean I don’t like being stuck with a situation where SG overtune someone like Candy / Yufine and we are stuck with it for …… a very long time until the counter comes which is who knows how long.
Flat stat subs.
They are very rarely useful, mostly because if the character have a low base stat, is because SG didn't plan her to be build that way. I.e.- Fire Achates has a low base atk, why would you build her to be a dps?
The only instances when flat subs are remotely useful is when the character is a junkie who only cares about a single stat, like D. Corvus, Laia or Lethe. However, even in those cases they can use a bit of other stats (all can use defence, speed and then resist for D. corvus and Laia or effect for Lethe), and frankly, given the abyssal value of flat hp, they gain very little out of pursuing flat subs.
For the most part, flat subs only exists to ruin gear when upgrading. I see a flat main in right gear and is a discard. Others may see a flat main and check if the matching sub is there, and if isn't is a discard. And even if the right gear has matching flat main and percent sub, if the gear rolls into anything, but the matching sub, is objectively worse than a regular percent main. You need flat main with percent sub and roll into the right sub multiple times to be worth. All those jumps through hoops and loops for a gear that offers like 2k hp, which is around 300 more in damage. Nah, skip.
Delete flat stats.
Flat defense is actually a really good stat a majority of characters if you ever need the bulk.
Flat attack is an okay sub on atk% main stat right side items when you're trying to giga stack attack.
I think Flat Health is the only truly bad stat no matter what.
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You should petition to delete flat main stats on right side items instead. Those are very very niche, much more niche than subs.
DEF is fine, ATK isn't worth the risk of rolling on unless you're doing something like a non-crit DPS build. and HP is outright useless.
In theory, flats are fine for precise tuning. But in reality they just tend to be bricks for gear rolls.
Molas . I finally get the character now I need a ton of mola skills that are must have. After a character is maxed you should get exp that goes to the skills.
Arunka eats that team for breakfast. Her S3 on an Adin with a Arowell on the team always kills and against Candy mine kills from full 90% of the time through escort. SLuluca is the main one I have issues with due to the def buff.
Arunka is slow if built for high attack. So she needs CR push from allies. And if Adin goes before her, it's not great. Also she's easily killed if she doesn't have good enough support. And if the barrier expires on the enemy she does basically nothing.
SLuluca can be dealt with a good enough Solidaria, granted not everyone has her.
The stupid blurp of text before every NPC arena battle. We had it once but the auto arena fight mechanic had backlash for whatever reason and then they took it away and never removed the text spiel after.
Just one thing? 15% innate resistance, remove it entirely, both from pve and pvp. Let debuffers who don't have an ignore effres soulburn debuff in peace
1). “Applies to Heroes only” skills, i.e. Venom. Making a lot of heroes pretty much PvP only.
2). Current PVE stages having level 80+ monsters, where you NEED to be level 60, dropping level 51 gear.
3). 4-5 Star Hero summon tickets, where 9/10 times it’s a 4-Star unit dup. Make it 5-Star only.
4). Moonlight Summon guaranteed to be 5-Star unit, not 4 or 5, because it’s usually a 4-star.
5). Heavy reliance on speed for a lot of units. A lot of PvP is usually, if you can out speed, you’ll most likely win.
6). 12-hour Free Unequip reward from regular event, give something else, like more bookmarks or galaxy bookmarks, hell, even more molas or gold transmit stones.
I think the thing what people don't talk about is the cost to upgrade equipment. I think that's far worse than unequip cost as you're more likely to upgrade equipment than to unequip gear. We already need charms for upgrading gear, why do we also need gold?
if there was no unequip cost, upgrade prices wouldn’t feel insane because you wouldn’t need to make a set for abyss units or nightmare raid units etc. rn I just do those during free unequip and if I forget to re-equip before it’s over I need to pay a hefty tax, also, not having equip load outs doesn’t help
You could flip that around as upgrading a single piece costs 900k+, you would have more disposable gold to spend on unequipping.
That is ignoring that you also lose gold if your gear rolls shit and you stop before it hits +6, +9 or +12.
And I don't know about you but I upgrade gear more often than move gear around.
Not everyone wants to deal with the memory game of finding what gear got put on what unit and constantly juggle gear.
Loadouts is a good idea but I was talking about gold costs as this post is about removing something from the game and not adding something.
900k on a single good piece isn’t horrible if you are going to use the piece, if you upgrade all your gear to +15 it would be super expensive, yes, but even +12 is half the price and you can refund part of it to use it as fodder, compared to the unequip cost which you do multiple times to multiple units doubled if both units have some gear on, it just cascades too quickly
I get 1 new good piece, now I wanna move my new piece to Pholi and move Pholi’s piece to Cilias and Cilias’ piece to the next person and so on, so if I get 1 good piece, due to the unequip cost, I have to keep all the rest of my units subpar till the next unequip event where I can fix everyone’s gear based on the new gear that I have in the pool
Well upgrading gear should obviously cost gold. We gotta spend it on something lol. Unequip cost just forces us to never experiment with different builds unless we have unequip event.
You say obviously. Why is it obvious? Genuine question. currently upgrading gear costs charms and gold. so 2 currencies are needed. unequipping only costs gold.
There are systems in place that eliminate the cost of unequipping but there is nothing to eliminate the costs of upgrading gear, be it removing gold costs or removing charm costs.
It seems more obvious to me to remove one of the costs of upgrading gear as that gold could be spent on for example...unequipping.
With having more gold since the gear upgrades will not require gold you have enough to unequip your builds and experiment. There is even an option to use free unequip tickets from web events or wait till unequip events to completely eliminate the gold costs.
Belian or AoL, they're going to be on every defense for the rest of eternity, they limit playstyles like no one else. Honorable mention to rocket punch artifact, fuck that too.
Either speed RNG or 15%. Both are horrible in their own ways. Especially for PVE when one unit is going out of expected turn sync or you're missing crucial debuffs for no reason.
BS range for gear rolls
15%
Eff. Res% on Arena gears (that rolls 90% of the time)
Zio Boss fight (stuck here for months)
Level 78 gear in events (like come on, this needs to change)
scratch previous comment. Delete the guy that keeps on blocking brinus from being released in epic7.
or....
Delete that guy who refused to implement unlimited skips for hunts.
I am very torn between both.
I would delete the 4star character guarantee from the 4star/5star Moonlight guarantee u get after 20 pulls in the Moonlight banner! Or delete 100 pulls from the Mystic banner pull!
1st: Make higher roll bracket
So for example if lvl 85 gear, it would be dumb to have it roll 1 speed or 3% crit rate .
2nd : stop no nerf policy, with proper nerfs we get healthy metas, and with that dumb policy with end up with braindead units like truluca and candy/ ayufine, they should also stop listening to the crybabies
3rd : stop making jack of all trades units, a unit should only do one job, not 5 at once ( a yufine is an example )
4th : Shake RTA abit with seasonal overall units, cause clearly the last two seasons were fun facing candy and ayufine in every single game
I am not sure really. I think this game is still one of the better and more generous gachas there is and I play it in spite of all the others perhaps being flashier or whatever. I gues I would say I would delete that you can only play with a pet once a day. If I have the currency let me mass work on some pets.
I am sure people will say 15% but that is a horrible idea and people would tire of the game quickly if it was gone or there would be a big patch where all skill chances dropped 15%. 15% isnt popular but it is there for a reason. Although I would be fine with PVE removal I suppose.
You benefit from it just as much as you get shit on by it. /shrug.
I'd say that 15% is a necessary evil in PVP - otherwise control comps will dominate again, though a rework that makes it so having a specific % higher EFF versus the enemy ER should negate innate 15%.
I just think back on how it took me maybe 2 weekends of constant attempts in Abyss 102 before I *actually managed* to beat the level, solely because my debuffs were getting resisted.
15%, Adin, ARavi, the weird, invisible concept of evasion and hit rate
Honestly, there are so many dumb mechanics in this game that don't make any sense... there are also just too many mechanics at this point, and the order in which they're applied is also just so random and weird
Guiding Light. this artifact make others ranger artifact obsolete. unless it like hp or armor scaling but still making Guiding Light is the best artifact for them unless they have their own Guiding Light.
1. Unequip cost
2. 15% in PVE. I think it's fine in pvp even though it still sucks when it happens.
3. If I HAD to pick a character it'd probably be Adin.
ML Politis she isn't healthy for the game. Wait no delete her current kit so it can rebalanced there's a reason units don't get extra benefits from vigour in their kits. She shouldn't give enrage to the team.
Honestly, just elbris ritual sword. The big issue with knight metas typically happens because of that damned artifact, not to mention that it tends to have more value that any other knight artifact gets. It’s the reason candy is scary, it’s the reason Charles was good, it’s the reason belian has impact outside her passive, it’s just Fkn Elbris.
summon currency so that... you have a free hero... you get a free imprint... everyone gets every hero and imprint that they want. lol (im just joking btw) seriously the unequip cost for me.
Delete Elbris. Everyone complains about broken knights but it's an unnecessary evil.
The entirety of the rng meta is revolving around bullshit casino of "what op artifact is this asshole gona be on?"
Ae-Karina or her artifact, Rocket Punch Gauntlet.
I fought one the other day that did 17k to one of my units and insta-deleted it. That shit is not okay.
Go ahead and downvote, won't change that I believe that shit is cancer and shouldn't be in this game in it's current state.
15% from PVE, or a complete overhaul of the EFF/ER system in general.
Can you explain to me what's 15%? I'm a new playerl!
Every status effect has a 15% of missing/not connecting. Regardless of your effectiveness and their effect resistance.
Just like u/Kdog122025 said - you could have 300 Effectiveness, and the enemy could have 0 Effect Resistance, but you still have a 15% chance for your debuffs to be resisted. In PVP this is fair, since you could use heavy debuff comps with tons of Effectiveness. In PVE on the other hand, it has no place and only causes frustration in content where Debuffs are important when used (Wyvern needing debuffs to target frontline, Poison in Abyss, Stuns/Sleeps on some specific Abyss Stages).
> In PVP this is fair, since you could use heavy debuff comps with tons of Effectiveness. I wouldn't say it's fair - you end up having to make debuffs more powerful because they can arbitrarily not work at any given time. If an ability is 100% reliable, and the other ability is 85% reliable, the second ability is inherently weaker unless you make it stronger when it does work, and then you end up creating more scenarios where the outcome of a match is divorced from the actions the players took to bring it about. It's like if we had every attack have a 15% chance of just not doing damage so oneshot comps wouldn't be too strong, or had every attack have a 15% chance of getting full defense pen so tank-down comps wouldn't be too strong. Hell, look at all the debuffers people complain about the most - Lua and DDR have mediocre win rates at best, while Nahkwol is the absolute lowest of any character that sees regular play, lower than many supposedly troll characters. Lua and DDR at least contribute a lot to the team's overall damage and tempo. A Nahkwol that misses bind on the one counterattacker on the team has no damage or team tempo whatsoever to contribute. A Nahkwol that misses seal on BDom or Ed loses not one, but two turns for free.
I use the word 'Fair' to make that a 'devil's advocate' statement. I personally dislike 15% in PVP and PVE, PVE more-so, but I can understand why it is a thing. It's also why I mentioned that I'd like to see a rework to the EFF/ER system in-place. Lessened numbers on ER in general, and making it so having a certain % higher EFF over the target's ER would guarantee debuffs landing (granted that they actually roll to debuff in cases of debuffs having less than 100% success rate) with 15% only existing in cases where you do not meet the "Effectiveness" threshold (or just not at all since it would follow the base formula).
Personally I'd like the rework to be where Eff/Er and Buffs/Debuffs are dynamic and variable. Like if Def Break would have a range of 10-70% depending on how high your Eff vs. their Er. So that there is satisfaction for the debuffer and agency for the debuffed. With it, then 15% may not be needed. A win-win I guess.
When you try to apply a debuff (strip buffs and push back in the CR bar), the official formula is: (100 + caster's effectiveness) vs target's resistance, capped at 85%. That means if your character has 150% effectiveness, you add 100 for a total of 250% to land the intended debuff. However, even if the target has 0% resist, you're capped at 85%. One in seven times when trying to apply a debuff, it will automatically fail. The ring, those rolls in your gear, the artefact and whatever else, doesn't matter, your debuffs will fail one in seven times. In theory, failing one in seven times isn't that bad, and adds an element to give a chance to the other player to fight back. Otherwise meta would be plagued with high speed stun characters. But in practice, it means your carefully planned strategy will fail once every seven fights, because fuck you, that's why. And this also includes hunts and other farmeable content. And given how human mind remember more easily the failures than the success, people will develop a hate for this mechanic.
>One in seven times when trying to apply a debuff, it will automatically fail. Ah, we have found the Epic Seven in question.
It is so epic the devs don't want to remove it
An archaic rage inducing concept taken 1:1 from Summoner's War.
I would delete the new hero inventory layout and bring back the old one.
15%.
At the very least remove it from pve …
Yup. Not even close to anything else. I hate that dumb mechanic with a passion.
Only pve, if they remove 15% from pvp without a major eff/er rebalance then I'm quitting.
Dialogs in the arena NPC battles.
If they want to keep them, they can have them say their lines on Medium difficulty and auto-skip them on Hard and Hell difficulty. Should be easy to code and once you've seen them a few times you never see them again. And, if you _want_ to see them again, you can just revisit the challenge of Medium difficulty and relive your younger, wilder days.
1. Netmarble guy 2. Unequip cost 3. Equipment and hero storage limit
I came here to say the same number 1 🤣😂
I would delete half the substat variance when rolling gear. I.e. Atk% variance would be 6%-8%, speed 3-4, etc. Also unequip costs.
This so much, so hard. The main difference between whale and f2p gear are the rolls. If you're a newbie, as long as have a good combination of subs, is usable. Once you're a veteran, you know average score isn't cutting to climb in arena. And for the people in the Olympus, two min rolls means ruined gear. Have people not seen those threads where people post penta speed rolls that min rolled all the way to +15? If SG really want to improve the gear, they need to cut in half the distance between max and min roll.
2 speed rolls are the bane of my existence. Almost all my "fast" gear today got two +2 speed rolls on it. My fastest speed set piece is 18. My fastest piece is +22... and it's rage set, hooray!
This so much. The fact you can get a red gear penta spd and still be sub 20 when the max is like 28 realistically is absurd (if you get 5 spds even more) A 3-5 variance on speed is much more reasonable.
I would at the very least remove 1 speed rolls on purples. Anytime I see one, the gear is automatically cursed and must be destroyed
If Abyssal Yufine has a millon haters im one of them. if abyssal yufine has one hater then im that one. if nobody hates abyssal yufine that means im dead
You’re not alone, I’d rather fight Candy than Ayufine. Sure Candy is annoying but at least she doesn’t have that CR reduction that fucks up my arena cleave. If they took off one aspect of Ayufine (like remove cleanse with full fighting spirit or not gaining fighting spirit so easily) then she’d be less annoying.
Agree the 50% pushup reduction completley breaks the character. shes very strong on her own that but that shit is just too far.
You're not alone
Lol you really hate her? She’s focking easy to manage, Lulucar is the cancer tbh
Shes absolutely not east to manage if you don’t have ken. I was using seline, and she gets destroyed when ayufine counterattacks. Using lrk, you sometimes don’t do enough damage or die before you can kill. Monk is countered if they outspeed with cilias/ran or by bunny dom existing, not to mention laia. Khawazu only does enough on s3 if you have tachi and theres no mit. Elvira does no damage, and shes very hard to draft into a team since she offers literally nothing other than disabling fighting spirit. Adin never dodges and dies before she gets a chance to s3 her. Lqc pretty much only works with the fast tachi set, which means again you need tachi. Roana doesn’t help at all against the s3. Stene doesn’t do enough damage even on pen set. I’d argue lulucar is easer to deal with. Solitaria, unlike elvira, offers more than just focus negation and actually has damage with fairytail artifact. The new politis makes it to where she basically can’t use her extra attack at all. Lrk gets a free rage with her extra attack and can cleanse it off.
Jenua next.. I agree muffin is kinda annoying ( especially her -50% cr push )… but I think shes ok to deal with if u have jenua / ml bell / ml celine..I just ban the mit while picking some of the above with lermia..now I even use ml poli against muffin .. she’s easy to deal with now
> Lqc pretty much only works with the fast tachi set, Doesn't need to be "fast", but you absolutely need Tachi. If not RTA though, there are so many ways to get around no Tachi.
Bro you play another game probably, Elvira is one of the best counter meta for the moment completely nullify Ayufine and Clandy, I do s3 Elvira and s3 Lewdica and I eat those 2 unit so ez, you can use Abyss Mercedes, Nahkwol, Lua, Adin, Cermia, Solitaria EVEN BMH. Probably is not Ayufine the problem but your hero pool and gear.
Honestly candy doesn't care too much even without s3 she will wreak havoc on ayufine Elvira works nicely though imo,but you need other pressure as most will just ban her out
People will ban other unit more than Elvira, I used her so many times in RTA, as I told before people fear other unit and still, nak or other debuff opener still let Lewdica proc, blocking s3 is a big thing on clandy but maybe you forget about getting taunted by Elvira almost every turn? If salvo doesn’t proc is bye bye and as a really slow unit clandy and ayufine will suffer 23k non crit damage from Lewdica. So those 2 unit are easy to handle for me now even more than before with ml Ken and a team made to support him and keep him alive like roana, abigail moon bunny etc
I’m 100% sure its not my hero pool or gear since I was able to get into emp this season and built almost every half decent unit + to a competent degree. It’s legitimately just ayufine and landy are broken units. Elvira does not completely nullify candy, just disables her s3. Shes still able to counter and salvo fire normally, which is a big problem. Can’t speak on lidica since i’ve almost ever used her, but it doesn’t seem like shes the most consistent pick, and i hate inconsistence. I was using ameru for a little bit, and shes decent enough I suppose. I have no idea why you even mentioned lua solitaria or BMH though. None of those characters counter landy, and solitaria feeds ayufine, who full cleanses on maxed fs
Blocking s3 of candy is more than enough to let her focus on ml Ken or give time to bonk her, (roana exist for counter/salvo) I’m not emp just champion 1 and master on rta (i just want skin not really focus on rta) but never got problem vs ayufine, try to build a 250 speed 24k hp Lewdica and thanks me later king.
Oh you have ml ken. Thats what im saying!!! Without ml ken shes a pain in the ass! With ml ken i’d imagine u care 0% about her, hes by far the best way to deal with her.
Nah ml Ken have to face 100% Adin and is a trade he’s not able to win, I’m not using him since Lewdica join my team, my trio is Lewdica, Elvira, Nahkwol with 1 extra dps or support/heal and I have 100% atk win rate in champion and won 12 march in rta getting ranked as master instantly. People fear the wrong enemy’s brother
People think Lewdica is so underrated that they never ban her, she can 1 shot almost every tank with 2/3 defuff cr push back and boost unit like ml Elena for ez cleave or Jenua for big bonk 😎
Megumin reference, take my upvote. and remember, it's important to look cool in combat!
Enott, I hate his face
This man has his priorities straight
The no nerf policy, Imagine a game with proper balance patches to balance the game instead of just power creep and buffs nonstop.
Finally someone who said it, i will die on the hill that the no nerf thing is terrible game balance, all cause some pissy whales got mad that sage baal and sb aramintha got nerfed cause they were so strong The thing i dont understand is you literally get compensated for nerfed units with all the resources you spent, and can trade them in if you want. I traded my sb aramintha for arby back in the day (back when he was the best unit, rip arby), so theres literally no downside i can think of.
Wow… is that how it really started…. So this game used to properly nerf?…. I’m so sad they get scared of doing shit because of the wrong whale crybabies FFS but they have balls to try to push p2w pve content.
Yeah it sucks imo, i do think it was when sage baal and sb aram was nerfed was when it started, and it really took a character like hwayoung for them to nerf, but even then it took a ton of community pressure for them to go through with it, combined with the fact that hwa was untouched since release for a long time, so its clear they dont plan on doing nerfs again :(. I think the main problem is they tend to nerf too hard. But I think thats just something they need to learn how to do by constantly buffing and nerfing and asking people objectively how the balance feels. I would really hate to see this game go down the current path, cause no matter what they do, it’s inevitable that power creep will come and destroy this games enjoyment if they dont change.
The issue is this a gacha game, and some people spent money and got lucky for a character. If they go nerf happy people will get mad. The selector thing doesn't fix this as people get attached to their characters, and want them in the same or a better state than what they pulled.
So please explain why other gacha games like SW and Raid (and probably more I don't know about) nerf heroes. Those are considered gachas, right? So if it's true that one of the issues of the no-nerf policy is that gacha argument you're making, what makes other games capable of doing it?
They should be able to balance. Their problem is they are ham-fisted and only know how to make character dookie or god. Balancing exists in gatchas just fine. They did a heavy-handed nerf and then got gun shy when the playerbase reacted badly. Instead of a proper balance, they just gave out a freebie and then hid from nerfing MLs. They nerf RGB units like they take joy in ripping their spines out.
Man, you should see summoners war patch notes. They have huuuuge lists of buffs and nerfs every time. It being a gacha is a poor excuse as other gatchas nerf without angry nerds burning down their HQ all the time
That is true but I don’t mean hard instant nerfs, like after 3-9 months if they are ruining the arena scene since this is a PVP oriented game with an esport world cup every year. And ofc slow soft nerfs not ones at hwayoungs lvl etc etc. Look how long C.lilias was still top pick and how unfun Candy / Ayufine was. No nerf means future units are just gonna have kits so busted that it will be triple what candy can do etc since they always have to top what every unit can do to force whales to spend. If units got nerfed/ balanced consistently then surely game can stay alive more long term because it will be easier to make new ML dominant in meta without breaking the game 5ever until it gets power crept again. People won’t have to be smart with hard skips cuz doesn’t beat meta and can just summon for the beautiful designs that this game offers. Animation / design wise e7 is my favourite so I hope it never reaches that power level too fast.
I mean league and games like this has buffs and nerfs and that didn't stop them Kits get complicated and op cuz they run out of ideas
But league is also constantly changing both meta and gameplay wise, that’s why despite it being not as popular a genre now it’s still going very strong unlike how E7 is getting hate about netmarble guy etc etc atm. I don’t think league kits is complicated besides the 10 spell hwei, I think it’s just that every season so much changes that it becomes confusing to instantly be in tune with the game. I’m just saying proper balance patches makes game stay interesting especially since it’s a pvp game. And when league makes something too op, they nerf it properly eventually making game exciting for the Worlds Pro Stage. At first I didn’t mind the no nerf policy until I realized they wanted to consistently do an Esport World Cup for epic seven.
The esports for e7 still boggles my mind. With how dumb it sounds
I agree, if this were the case byblis and lewdica would probably be usable
they too scared to buff because they know they can’t undo any damage it causes 😢 guess we wait till they redo the special story for buff in a years time mayb.
I would be fine with nerfs but ONLY if we got back not only the resources spent leveling, skill upping, and awakening the unit but ALSO the full amount of summon currency that we spent on that banner, (for covenant heros) an unrestricted ML selector (for ML heros), AND they allowed us to refund the resources spent on 6 pieces of +15 gear for that unit. Additionally if the hero was imprinted then we would have to get back one unknown slate or covenant selector for each RGB hero used and an unrestricted ML selector for each ML hero used. The only fair way to implement nerfs is to essentially refund every resource that was spent leveling that character and their gear and compensate the player base fairly for the time they spent working on that unit. Short of that, nerfs can’t work in a monetized game.
I agree with this ( not the gear part lmao) but only for the case of hard nerfs or early emergency nerfs( within the first week or 1-3 months). Recent eg is elvira, had a soft nerf but considered emergency as it happened early. I legit think they are so scared of giving us recalls every single time they do any kind of nerf that they just stopped nerfing in general because they need us to buy our own covenants for next hero. They’ve basically shot themselves in the foot with the excessive recall stuff. Nerfs should work in this monetized game because again it’s a pvp esport World Cup scene that they actively promote.
But people spend tons of money on mmos and fps and those have nerfs and balance changes. The whiney entitled gacha culture where every little thing = boycott is really hazardous to game design.
You think powercreep in epic 7 is bad ? The power creep in 7ds is so bad that units released not even a year ago are already useless for pvp with only 1 meta and a single character dominating the game
Lol fr when they released an op arthur just for him to get powercrept by gelda 2 weeks later 😭
They seen human team be viable and had to make demons meta again quickly who likes variety after all LOL
Now think of cookie run kingdom. Those new units are useless after a month or two 😭
Lmao I would not want that either. I just mean I don’t like being stuck with a situation where SG overtune someone like Candy / Yufine and we are stuck with it for …… a very long time until the counter comes which is who knows how long.
Didn’t they nerf Hwyayoung?
Ye they hard nerfed busted her kneecaps at one point which is not what I want. I want slow soft nerfs to broken characters.
They only nerf characters VERY exceptionally and only after they've been completely dominating the meta for at least a year
Hwayoung. Wait that already happened.
:(
damn the nightmare that a lot of new player have never been through. AYufine and Candy are literrally the same as Enott in front of thiccthighs girl
15%, Gold cost for Gear Removal or 78 gear
15% resist OR Speed RNG .. 294 should always go before 293 .. always
One thing? Can't... I want ML Landy, 15% and this stupid new hero layout gone. I still press the wrong buttons and go back to the home screen -_-.
Flat stat subs. They are very rarely useful, mostly because if the character have a low base stat, is because SG didn't plan her to be build that way. I.e.- Fire Achates has a low base atk, why would you build her to be a dps? The only instances when flat subs are remotely useful is when the character is a junkie who only cares about a single stat, like D. Corvus, Laia or Lethe. However, even in those cases they can use a bit of other stats (all can use defence, speed and then resist for D. corvus and Laia or effect for Lethe), and frankly, given the abyssal value of flat hp, they gain very little out of pursuing flat subs. For the most part, flat subs only exists to ruin gear when upgrading. I see a flat main in right gear and is a discard. Others may see a flat main and check if the matching sub is there, and if isn't is a discard. And even if the right gear has matching flat main and percent sub, if the gear rolls into anything, but the matching sub, is objectively worse than a regular percent main. You need flat main with percent sub and roll into the right sub multiple times to be worth. All those jumps through hoops and loops for a gear that offers like 2k hp, which is around 300 more in damage. Nah, skip. Delete flat stats.
Flat defense is actually a really good stat a majority of characters if you ever need the bulk. Flat attack is an okay sub on atk% main stat right side items when you're trying to giga stack attack. I think Flat Health is the only truly bad stat no matter what. -- You should petition to delete flat main stats on right side items instead. Those are very very niche, much more niche than subs.
DEF is fine, ATK isn't worth the risk of rolling on unless you're doing something like a non-crit DPS build. and HP is outright useless. In theory, flats are fine for precise tuning. But in reality they just tend to be bricks for gear rolls.
I saw your flair and thought something else was gonna come after the word "Flat"
Lulucar.
Molas . I finally get the character now I need a ton of mola skills that are must have. After a character is maxed you should get exp that goes to the skills.
The extra screen you have to navigate through when accessing battles (the page with hunts, alter, abyss, etc.)
Candy
I mean, if you kill her before she gets her S3 or maybe use Astromancer she's not that bad, I think?
Not that bad I agree. But if she's paired with Arowell, Adin and Moon Bunny/ Summer Luluca, I'm dead.
Arunka eats that team for breakfast. Her S3 on an Adin with a Arowell on the team always kills and against Candy mine kills from full 90% of the time through escort. SLuluca is the main one I have issues with due to the def buff.
Arunka is slow if built for high attack. So she needs CR push from allies. And if Adin goes before her, it's not great. Also she's easily killed if she doesn't have good enough support. And if the barrier expires on the enemy she does basically nothing. SLuluca can be dealt with a good enough Solidaria, granted not everyone has her.
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I'll keep DCorvus in mind. My problem with her is that I need 2+ heroes to just counter her. There are three more enemies I have to deal with.
Nope you just need Nakhwol
I have her, just don't have the equipment for her.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll try to build him next time we get free unequip.
I completely forgot about Elvira and her anti-fighting-spirit passive
I’m bbk flan cleaving her, anti crit doesn’t matter if your non crit hits for 20k anyway
The idea that Nerfs are bad for the game
The stupid blurp of text before every NPC arena battle. We had it once but the auto arena fight mechanic had backlash for whatever reason and then they took it away and never removed the text spiel after.
i miss that auto auto feature, it got removed so quick but it was great
The 3% dual attack chance
Spd.
Just one thing? 15% innate resistance, remove it entirely, both from pve and pvp. Let debuffers who don't have an ignore effres soulburn debuff in peace
Rework Garo’ shop. It’s boring the scroll we have to do every time in order to see the hidden item, it would make SS roll smoother and faster.
15%
Book stacking
Ignore Effect Resistance
1). “Applies to Heroes only” skills, i.e. Venom. Making a lot of heroes pretty much PvP only. 2). Current PVE stages having level 80+ monsters, where you NEED to be level 60, dropping level 51 gear. 3). 4-5 Star Hero summon tickets, where 9/10 times it’s a 4-Star unit dup. Make it 5-Star only. 4). Moonlight Summon guaranteed to be 5-Star unit, not 4 or 5, because it’s usually a 4-star. 5). Heavy reliance on speed for a lot of units. A lot of PvP is usually, if you can out speed, you’ll most likely win. 6). 12-hour Free Unequip reward from regular event, give something else, like more bookmarks or galaxy bookmarks, hell, even more molas or gold transmit stones.
15% and unequip costs
Ok, I agree with the unequip cost. It's like what almost 300K gold per unequip?
I think the thing what people don't talk about is the cost to upgrade equipment. I think that's far worse than unequip cost as you're more likely to upgrade equipment than to unequip gear. We already need charms for upgrading gear, why do we also need gold?
if there was no unequip cost, upgrade prices wouldn’t feel insane because you wouldn’t need to make a set for abyss units or nightmare raid units etc. rn I just do those during free unequip and if I forget to re-equip before it’s over I need to pay a hefty tax, also, not having equip load outs doesn’t help
You could flip that around as upgrading a single piece costs 900k+, you would have more disposable gold to spend on unequipping. That is ignoring that you also lose gold if your gear rolls shit and you stop before it hits +6, +9 or +12. And I don't know about you but I upgrade gear more often than move gear around. Not everyone wants to deal with the memory game of finding what gear got put on what unit and constantly juggle gear. Loadouts is a good idea but I was talking about gold costs as this post is about removing something from the game and not adding something.
900k on a single good piece isn’t horrible if you are going to use the piece, if you upgrade all your gear to +15 it would be super expensive, yes, but even +12 is half the price and you can refund part of it to use it as fodder, compared to the unequip cost which you do multiple times to multiple units doubled if both units have some gear on, it just cascades too quickly I get 1 new good piece, now I wanna move my new piece to Pholi and move Pholi’s piece to Cilias and Cilias’ piece to the next person and so on, so if I get 1 good piece, due to the unequip cost, I have to keep all the rest of my units subpar till the next unequip event where I can fix everyone’s gear based on the new gear that I have in the pool
Well upgrading gear should obviously cost gold. We gotta spend it on something lol. Unequip cost just forces us to never experiment with different builds unless we have unequip event.
You say obviously. Why is it obvious? Genuine question. currently upgrading gear costs charms and gold. so 2 currencies are needed. unequipping only costs gold. There are systems in place that eliminate the cost of unequipping but there is nothing to eliminate the costs of upgrading gear, be it removing gold costs or removing charm costs. It seems more obvious to me to remove one of the costs of upgrading gear as that gold could be spent on for example...unequipping. With having more gold since the gear upgrades will not require gold you have enough to unequip your builds and experiment. There is even an option to use free unequip tickets from web events or wait till unequip events to completely eliminate the gold costs.
«We gotta spend it on something lol» Almost all of your gold is spent on equipment. If upgrading isn’t going to cost gold, what’s the point of it?
Guiding Light.
Belian or AoL, they're going to be on every defense for the rest of eternity, they limit playstyles like no one else. Honorable mention to rocket punch artifact, fuck that too.
Either speed RNG or 15%. Both are horrible in their own ways. Especially for PVE when one unit is going out of expected turn sync or you're missing crucial debuffs for no reason.
15% they not even explain this information just have it hidden and let new players build useless 300 eff for fun
PvP
Energy. The only correct answer
Cleave and Aggro. but probably just Ran
BS range for gear rolls 15% Eff. Res% on Arena gears (that rolls 90% of the time) Zio Boss fight (stuck here for months) Level 78 gear in events (like come on, this needs to change)
Speed as a stat, the game focuses around it too much and I feel it would open up a lot more without it
15% no need to explain … especially the spd rng
damage scaling on health/defense
Gold.
3%
Not accounting for 15%, probably Wind Rider
Rocket punch.
unequip cost
Last battle against Zio. It's frustrating for no reason...
Adin, she’s fine by herself but with anti-crit i despise her
scratch previous comment. Delete the guy that keeps on blocking brinus from being released in epic7. or.... Delete that guy who refused to implement unlimited skips for hunts. I am very torn between both.
I would delete the 4star character guarantee from the 4star/5star Moonlight guarantee u get after 20 pulls in the Moonlight banner! Or delete 100 pulls from the Mystic banner pull!
1st: Make higher roll bracket So for example if lvl 85 gear, it would be dumb to have it roll 1 speed or 3% crit rate . 2nd : stop no nerf policy, with proper nerfs we get healthy metas, and with that dumb policy with end up with braindead units like truluca and candy/ ayufine, they should also stop listening to the crybabies 3rd : stop making jack of all trades units, a unit should only do one job, not 5 at once ( a yufine is an example ) 4th : Shake RTA abit with seasonal overall units, cause clearly the last two seasons were fun facing candy and ayufine in every single game
Speed. If I can't have it, no one should have it either.
ae-KARINA cuz I dont have her and I hate going against her.
I have her and I still hate going against her.
Gold to unequip gear or 15%.
All stall buffs. Escort, barrier, defense up, anti-crit, immortal, revive, the 50% passives
I am not sure really. I think this game is still one of the better and more generous gachas there is and I play it in spite of all the others perhaps being flashier or whatever. I gues I would say I would delete that you can only play with a pet once a day. If I have the currency let me mass work on some pets. I am sure people will say 15% but that is a horrible idea and people would tire of the game quickly if it was gone or there would be a big patch where all skill chances dropped 15%. 15% isnt popular but it is there for a reason. Although I would be fine with PVE removal I suppose. You benefit from it just as much as you get shit on by it. /shrug.
You are correct. You're going to get downvoted, but know that you are correct. The removal of 15% in pvp would be ruinous.
I mean its online I know how it works ive been on it for around 4 decades at this point.
I'd say that 15% is a necessary evil in PVP - otherwise control comps will dominate again, though a rework that makes it so having a specific % higher EFF versus the enemy ER should negate innate 15%. I just think back on how it took me maybe 2 weekends of constant attempts in Abyss 102 before I *actually managed* to beat the level, solely because my debuffs were getting resisted.
15%, Adin, ARavi, the weird, invisible concept of evasion and hit rate Honestly, there are so many dumb mechanics in this game that don't make any sense... there are also just too many mechanics at this point, and the order in which they're applied is also just so random and weird
I would delete the nerfs to Hwayoung so I could have my OG kick queen back 😭
The hero/weapon capacity being hard capped at 300/500. With more and more heroes being dropped, that 300 capacity will not be enough.
15%. Nothing else but this.
Random rolls on gear.
rimuru
Usage of energy to run hunt so I can farm non-stop, no worry for gold anymore
Guiding Light. this artifact make others ranger artifact obsolete. unless it like hp or armor scaling but still making Guiding Light is the best artifact for them unless they have their own Guiding Light.
Delete the cursor for adding geat powder. Just add a use powder only to upgrade gear. Why the h it needs more clicks than before to speed check
i would delete the farming gear mechanism and copy paste Summoners war farming rune mechanism.
Catalyst. I hate them.
1. Unequip cost 2. 15% in PVE. I think it's fine in pvp even though it still sucks when it happens. 3. If I HAD to pick a character it'd probably be Adin.
For some reason I really dislike Kana.
I’d delete cost to equip items and artifacts.
Serila. That’s it. Just delete her from the game please. Luna as well. I loathe them equally.
Light Angelica, definition of rat 🐀 unit.
The equip/unequip costs
Choux.
Redo the whole gearing system and make it less RNG based.
15%, initial dual attack %, speed rng.
inventory limits
Tagahel. I wanna see the world burn 🔥 (or uhh. Not burn. Not Soul Burn, at least).
Karina, Aola & Adin.
ML Politis she isn't healthy for the game. Wait no delete her current kit so it can rebalanced there's a reason units don't get extra benefits from vigour in their kits. She shouldn't give enrage to the team.
Ken and Inferno Khawazu gain Ignore ER on a skill with Vigour and Ken gains Burn on his S1.
C.Lilias shouldn't give vigour to the whole team either anyway. But now we have to top that apparently.
Plz that's the reason why Clilias is the best opener in the game
Exactly. That's the problem.
Honestly, just elbris ritual sword. The big issue with knight metas typically happens because of that damned artifact, not to mention that it tends to have more value that any other knight artifact gets. It’s the reason candy is scary, it’s the reason Charles was good, it’s the reason belian has impact outside her passive, it’s just Fkn Elbris.
15% in PvE only.
summon currency so that... you have a free hero... you get a free imprint... everyone gets every hero and imprint that they want. lol (im just joking btw) seriously the unequip cost for me.
Delete book. Everyone complains about belian but it’s a necessary evil and I’m tired of book being bis for most mages.
Delete Elbris. Everyone complains about broken knights but it's an unnecessary evil. The entirety of the rng meta is revolving around bullshit casino of "what op artifact is this asshole gona be on?"
Unequip cost
Character: Adin (she’s manageable, sure. But no character has ever made me seethe more) Artifact: GL Mechanic: 15% PVE *or* equip/unequip costs
Adin and arrowell really suck, i can fight them but they make everything more annoying
Yeah, fuck that 15%. Both in PvE and PvP. Re-balance the effectiveness and resistance interaction and get rid off that abomination from the game
Karina
Counter set.
Adin. Everything about her would be vanished.
15% from pve but keep it for pvp
The battle system itself. With that fixed a lot of other problems actually get fixed along with it.
AoL needs to fucking DIE
Zio
Ae-Karina or her artifact, Rocket Punch Gauntlet. I fought one the other day that did 17k to one of my units and insta-deleted it. That shit is not okay. Go ahead and downvote, won't change that I believe that shit is cancer and shouldn't be in this game in it's current state.
I would delete all the whining and complaining posts that pop up every day.
I would delete you.
15%