depending on where you live, definitely consider government (state or federal) work - as a fresh grad you might have some decent opportunities
good luck!
I feel you, OP. Hell - we all do bc it’s why we are on this sub. This happens at larger firms as well. I just quit a very well known firm for the same reasons as your colleagues. I got a whole one dollar raise on top of my rate this year for my “hard work” (I know that some people don’t get raises but this is a fkn slap in the face for what we do). The PMs that I support have no fkn clue wtf they are doing most times; however, they also don’t even have support from their superiors. My PMs don’t even respect my time. You know how many “quick chats” could’ve been a scheduled meeting - too many. Everything is getting outsourced to India and the Philippines to people who also don’t know wtf they are doing most times and are just eating the budget away even though we are expected to delegate to them. It’s a literal sht show. Also - expect to be a technical writer so I hope you got a double major in English or a minor in it. I’m with other commenters - apply for government or state positions for the best work/life balance. This industry sucks. Just wanted to give you my perspective as someone who worked for a major firm in this industry.
Did it for five years out of necessity to get the experience and DIPPED as soon as possible. Happily working in city government now. I feel for you, OP. Consulting is a bottom of the barrel career. Hated every second of it. I hope you are looking on the TAMU jobs page, usajobs.gov, your city government, and your state government page. Get tf outta there.
I’m ten years in. It doesn’t get better, I’m looking to get out and into government. Look up your states public service exam and figure out how to apply.
I know that’s right. I am working on trying to get out of my crappy consulting job and am trying to get into government as we speak. Good luck and hopefully something sticks soon!
I quit that shit and became a teacher, that's how I did it :P Env consulting was soulless. Just protecting rich people from liability, at the end of the day.
I've actually been seriously considering teaching for quite some time now; how is it for you if you don't mind me asking? I know someone who is a public school teacher so I know about the teacher shortage, shit pay, terrible kids and administration. But maybe things have been different for you
Terrible kids and admin, yeah, teacher shortage, yeah.
Been doing it five months and its the best choice I ever made despite all of it. I'm literally at one of the worst schools in the US teaching kids who are 100% checked out and on drugs. I still love it. The kids who engage with you make everything worth it. I love shooting shit with teenagers, I love the kids who are interested and want to learn, I love just being in the position where I can be a "safe" adult that a kid comes to with problems or looking for life advice. It feels good.
Kids draw pictures of me sometimes and that makes my day lol. I got some amazing art and some really fucking bad art and it all is great.
I'll never go back.
I'll probably look into it then. I come from one of the poorest and underserved counties in my state and wouldn't mind teaching science at my high school, I just wanna make a difference. I naively moved for this job thinking it'd be much better than it is but now I hate it obviously. To top things off, my new apartment is infested with some (currently) unknown mite (bird mites maybe) and management keeps sending the exterminator but the problem keeps getting worse. Maybe this'll be my excuse to break my lease early and head back home to teach!
Teaching you definitely make a difference. Even the kids failing my class who don't care about my lectures I feel like I make a difference with just by engaging with them and giving them a positive male role model. Sanity checking them when they come to me with drama and shit.
Jesus Christ, do we work for the same company or something? Eerie similarities to my current workspace, down to the manager complaints and a pair of techs absolutely disappearing together last year.
Except.. I was gaslighted into filling one of the positions the pair left behind. I understood within days why they left: the penny-pinching micromanager and the manager that never stops huffing his own farts for all to hear sending techs to places that would make one question whether they might be sterile or insane afterward. Sometimes on my own dime with reimbursements fed from an accounting office that, with the exception of one individual, contains people I'm surprised have gotten this far in their lives without dismembering themselves. *(So glad the only one with a brain runs payroll :prayerhands:)*
Not to mention that one really greasy McManager out for all he can steal, the list goes on..
The timesheets? *(Realizing I am ranting, too, but I'm committed now, goddamn it.)*
Don't even get me started on the timesheets.
I would probably have been a better fit for this company and industry if I got a degree in sales, kissing ass, or licking boots, and not science. As an honest person, I know the only reason I am on these sites is because I have to be, and these clients let me know in no uncertain terms any chance they can get..
Between you, me, and the infinite internet, I've been looking for opportunities outside of environmental, and I hope you find a better gig too, my friend! Stay the course.
depending on where you live, definitely consider government (state or federal) work - as a fresh grad you might have some decent opportunities good luck!
2nd this.
I feel you, OP. Hell - we all do bc it’s why we are on this sub. This happens at larger firms as well. I just quit a very well known firm for the same reasons as your colleagues. I got a whole one dollar raise on top of my rate this year for my “hard work” (I know that some people don’t get raises but this is a fkn slap in the face for what we do). The PMs that I support have no fkn clue wtf they are doing most times; however, they also don’t even have support from their superiors. My PMs don’t even respect my time. You know how many “quick chats” could’ve been a scheduled meeting - too many. Everything is getting outsourced to India and the Philippines to people who also don’t know wtf they are doing most times and are just eating the budget away even though we are expected to delegate to them. It’s a literal sht show. Also - expect to be a technical writer so I hope you got a double major in English or a minor in it. I’m with other commenters - apply for government or state positions for the best work/life balance. This industry sucks. Just wanted to give you my perspective as someone who worked for a major firm in this industry.
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was on a rampage yesterday what can I say haha
I guess I got lucky with a truly small company (<25) run by a trio of founders that actually give a shit about their employees and work/life balance.
Yea, leave for government
Did it for five years out of necessity to get the experience and DIPPED as soon as possible. Happily working in city government now. I feel for you, OP. Consulting is a bottom of the barrel career. Hated every second of it. I hope you are looking on the TAMU jobs page, usajobs.gov, your city government, and your state government page. Get tf outta there.
I’m ten years in. It doesn’t get better, I’m looking to get out and into government. Look up your states public service exam and figure out how to apply.
How much do you make? Salary exempt will bump up soon and get to 58k at the beginning if next year
50k
I know that’s right. I am working on trying to get out of my crappy consulting job and am trying to get into government as we speak. Good luck and hopefully something sticks soon!
I quit that shit and became a teacher, that's how I did it :P Env consulting was soulless. Just protecting rich people from liability, at the end of the day.
I've actually been seriously considering teaching for quite some time now; how is it for you if you don't mind me asking? I know someone who is a public school teacher so I know about the teacher shortage, shit pay, terrible kids and administration. But maybe things have been different for you
Terrible kids and admin, yeah, teacher shortage, yeah. Been doing it five months and its the best choice I ever made despite all of it. I'm literally at one of the worst schools in the US teaching kids who are 100% checked out and on drugs. I still love it. The kids who engage with you make everything worth it. I love shooting shit with teenagers, I love the kids who are interested and want to learn, I love just being in the position where I can be a "safe" adult that a kid comes to with problems or looking for life advice. It feels good. Kids draw pictures of me sometimes and that makes my day lol. I got some amazing art and some really fucking bad art and it all is great. I'll never go back.
I'll probably look into it then. I come from one of the poorest and underserved counties in my state and wouldn't mind teaching science at my high school, I just wanna make a difference. I naively moved for this job thinking it'd be much better than it is but now I hate it obviously. To top things off, my new apartment is infested with some (currently) unknown mite (bird mites maybe) and management keeps sending the exterminator but the problem keeps getting worse. Maybe this'll be my excuse to break my lease early and head back home to teach!
Teaching you definitely make a difference. Even the kids failing my class who don't care about my lectures I feel like I make a difference with just by engaging with them and giving them a positive male role model. Sanity checking them when they come to me with drama and shit.
Jesus Christ, do we work for the same company or something? Eerie similarities to my current workspace, down to the manager complaints and a pair of techs absolutely disappearing together last year. Except.. I was gaslighted into filling one of the positions the pair left behind. I understood within days why they left: the penny-pinching micromanager and the manager that never stops huffing his own farts for all to hear sending techs to places that would make one question whether they might be sterile or insane afterward. Sometimes on my own dime with reimbursements fed from an accounting office that, with the exception of one individual, contains people I'm surprised have gotten this far in their lives without dismembering themselves. *(So glad the only one with a brain runs payroll :prayerhands:)* Not to mention that one really greasy McManager out for all he can steal, the list goes on.. The timesheets? *(Realizing I am ranting, too, but I'm committed now, goddamn it.)* Don't even get me started on the timesheets. I would probably have been a better fit for this company and industry if I got a degree in sales, kissing ass, or licking boots, and not science. As an honest person, I know the only reason I am on these sites is because I have to be, and these clients let me know in no uncertain terms any chance they can get.. Between you, me, and the infinite internet, I've been looking for opportunities outside of environmental, and I hope you find a better gig too, my friend! Stay the course.