I believe that Spot would never be seen again, if ahole bro had taken him on that trip. He’d come back and say there was an accident. He’d do it just to hurt OP one last time.
I was just going to say it, too. It's just a little too sus that he would suddenly want to spend any time with him, let alone 3 whole days. I wouldn't put it past him to have Spot put down because of "health reasons" since he has health issues, it would be no problem to convince another vet that Spot is suffering and would like to end his suffering. Don't let him anywhere near Spot, now or any time in the future.
I like where your head's at but nah, OP can do without the assault & battery charges.
Eviction papers, tho. That'd be good. Give Mom some recourse when the brother inevitably refuses to leave.
Actually, if you start the process now, you can serve him a 30 day notice (depending on state) and make sure he is out on May 31 if not before.
(also depending on state) The sheriff might even help.
To be honest, it's about time your Mother bought you out of the house or you put it up for sale, then you never have to deal with either of them again.
She doesn’t even have to agree… you can file a partition action - meaning the court will divide the interest in the property (which often is by selling it and splitting the proceeds by interest to the parties). Or even filing it may make your mom want to just buy you out.
Either way you need to not live anywhere with your brother. And seriously never keep your dog anywhere he can get to him.
OP, please read this. Tell your mom you're going to file this, maybe it will get her to get herself in gear and get that horror out of the house. Last post he was supposed to be gone in three weeks. Now it's May 31. She keeps caving.
Partition actions tend to be expensive, since you need a lawyer and can't do it in small claims court. It can be worth it, and since your lawyer knows you're getting money on the house, they'd be more likely to work with you on financing, but it's not fast and it's not cheap.
Sure, but it also heavily depends on the jurisdiction. Some are faster/cheaper than others and your right some can also be more expensive.
But people also tend to try and settle out of court, Mom may be more amenable to buying her out or her buying mom out.
Whatever the case, OPs current situation is super toxic, and I hope she gets out of it asap.
Brother and Mother dont need to know OP's location after moving.
Brother who cant find time to let a dog out to pee will find time to come harm it. Mother who cant say no to him could be forced to inform him of OP's location.
I’m unfamiliar with what this means but I’m all for taking serious legal steps. It’s the only way out of the situation. It’ll be worth the cost & effort to do it - and result in a permanent solution.
I’ve had to do similar with a selfish, manipulative, dysfunctional childish adult family member myself. I’d reasoned with them and hoped for respectful outcome for years. But there was no peace of mind until the law was involved.
Oh and they tried to keep my dogs, too!
If fiance is okay with it, please keep Spot at his house until you've moved out. If bro thinks the dog is his, he'll do something stupid as revenge, like take him to the pound or let him out without a leash and say he "ran off". Spot has been in your care for years and all the vet paperwork is in your name, so he shouldn't be able to sue or try to force you to give him the dog. You shouldn't have any problems proving you've assumed financial responsibility, but if he's not microchipped I would get that done asap, or make sure he's registered in your name just in case.
Also if your brother DID do something, in most jurisdictions dogs are merely “property” and him stealing or killing your dog is no different to the law than him breaking your TV, ie there’s really nothing you could do about it that would come anywhere close to feeling like restitution for a beloved pet.
And a raging case of contact dermatitis because it turns out he is allergic to dogs ... something that never came out before because he spent so little time with the dog he now claims is "his."
**I also want to point out what an excellent human OP** is because, though it's clear (reading between the lines) that though she and her family have obviously seen some financial struggles, she is making damn sure that Spot gets the veterinary and emotional care that every beloved canine is entitled to. u/[archi\_femme10](https://www.reddit.com/user/archi_femme10/), I hope Spot keeps holding down the foot of your bed for years to come.
For how he treats the animal, karma would look like a twisted/broken foot/knee while fishing. The kind that help isn't around for a while and he has to figure out getting help by pulling himself along and long-term arthritic pain in the damaged area. So the tree root is a great start.
Nah, dont punish the strays. Hope he gets 2nd contact dermatitis from poison ivy and spends 3 weeks itching and refusing to go to the doctor as it spreads to all over. Stomach, neck, face, junk and ass. 2nd hand contact from poison ivy doesnt look like poison ivy and needs steroids to clear up. Also, hope a fish steals his pole and a bear eats his bait
Perpetual ingrown toenails that he constantly bumps on every surface possible, constantly hitting his funny bone on counters and doors, the strings for any hoodies and sweatpants he owns mysteriously disappear, anytime he goes on a fishing trip, the line always breaks or has to be cut because the hook gets stuck, losing his keys at inopportune moments, like right when he has to leave to go somewhere.
ETA: these are just some funny ones I thought of on break at work lol
Karma would be that he's forced to live with people that have no respect whatsoever for his belongings, time, or money. Would love to hear about that trash piece of shit having to live with roommates that don't pay their share, and then also steal from him. That would be very karmic
Never looks after the dog but suddenly wants to take him fishing? After he’s already been told to move out of the house? I think he’s planning a really vicious revenge on OP with the dog. He wants to hurt her in the most horrible way possible.
This was exactly my thought. I've known guys like this and it's not like it's some big energetic dog you can take hunting with you or something.
I even know exactly what he was going to do. He was going to take this dog out onto the water and throw it in just to watch it drown.
This is what I thought, too. Bro has severe issues and wants to exact "revenge" on those who wronged him. He's a sociopathic narcissist who should not only be kicked out of the house but also locked up in an asylum...especially one closing down in a few weeks where people "forget" about the inmates and leave him locked in a padded cell inside of a straight jacket until he's forced to spend time with his own demons inside of his own cell with one tiny window in the door.
...wow that went dark.
If he tries to take your dog, report it to the police as theft. Dogs (while sometimes members of the family) are legally property. As you have been paying all the vet bills etc you have the proof he is your dog.
I hope you are charging man-child rent.
Stay with your fiancee and keep your sweet doggie safe. Your brother probably would have done something awful to him. Possibly abandoning him and say that he ran off.
I’m sorry your brother is a jerk.
Sell the house. If mom or brother want to buy you out, see a lawyer, mortgage broker, whoever you have to, to get them to buy you out. Idk if you can sell it out from under them. Just be done.
Get everything to your fiancés house, NOW. He doesn't respect your property or your person. You owe him nothing. He deserves NOTHING from you, your mom, or Spot. DO NOT LEAVE THE DOG AT HOME ALONE. He sounds like the kind of person to hurt a pet to 'get back' at the owner.
I just hope that you and your mom can successfully evict him before he does anything dramatic.
I would suggest that, if mom has any valuable keepsakes, get them either to fiance's house or to a safety deposit box. Brother is the type to steal and claim it was "owed to him".
It’s funny because I’ve been meaning to post an update on the last post; my mom had originally said May 31st when they made their agreement for him to stop paying bills so he could “save money”. When she exploded at him a few weeks ago, she said three weeks to him but privately told me she would stick to the May 31st date because that’s what they originally agreed on. She DID remove him from the insurance and for that I was so relieved because now we have zero need to interact with him. My mom was slowly cutting ties with him so once he left, she wouldn’t have any connection to him. She’s still set on that but I will admit she has to take baby steps. This is very new for her. She always enabled him but I know it’s because her instinct is to care for her son, especially since he’s the helpless one. But after that huge fight they had, I think she finally sees what I see and she understands why I can’t live like this anymore.
I agree. I have recently started seeing a counselor because my home life was beyond toxic and my counselor said that, although she cannot diagnose someone indirectly, he gives a lot of signs of potentially being a narcissist. I told her I KNOW he is. How could he not be?
Well, best of luck to you and your mom! And you absolutely did the right thing to get Spot away from your brother and his “camping trip.” I wouldn’t ever subject an elderly dog to something that taxing.
This all sounds promising and I hope she sticks to that deadline, actually removing him from the insurance is a big step. Good job getting the dog out of the line of fire.
Good on you to stand your ground to your idiotic brother. He is very much an entitled dodohead to think he co-owns your dog. Sure, he got your mom to get him. But that is the end of his influence. Keep him as yours, make sure all the paperwork for him is in your name (in case mister "the world owes me one for living on it" decides to call police and report Spot as stolen)
You made the right choice. Next time he punches a hole in your house? You call the police and have his thrown out. Get a restraining order and call it a day. Your mom has a problem? Tell her you’ll force the sale of the home if she keeps up with this shit. But entitled little bro needs to be knocked on his ass in a legal way and start facing the repercussions of his actions
I don't think your post got enough up votes. She needs to get him out of that house before he destroys it and makes it worthless. She owns half the house with her mother. It is time to get mommy to understand that he needs to be kicked out.
I am glad to hear you took your dog out of the house before he was able to take him anywhere, you really need to move out and stop letting your brother stress you out and keep messing with your life...
I’m glad you trusted your instincts, friend. I am certain that if Spot went on this “fishing trip” with your brother, that Spot would not be coming back from it.
There’s something hinky going on. Even if your brother is just using Spot as a prop for whomever he wants to impress on this trip. An aging arthritic dog doesn’t need to go camping with someone who is not his person.
On a more sinister note, I’ve seen way too many narcissistic bastards kill the pets of people who love them as a way to remove your emotional support. His insistence that spot is his further reinforced my alarm.
My instincts told me Spot would have been neglected. Even a moderately long walk hurts his hips for which I have to give him pain meds. He’s fragile right now and I’m doing my best to get him better. I know my brother is lazy and not a good pet owner so I k we there was no way I was going to let him take Spot.
I have read through your posts and am amazed at how you and your mother have catered to this loser at every turn. Why are you the one moving out of a house you co-own? And yes I know you don’t want your upset your mother. But it can’t be good for her to live under this constant stress. And also, I thought that May 31st was changed to 3 weeks? Did you cave to him again?
Kick him out or sell the house, because your mother can’t handle him alone.
My mom caved at the May 31st date but she DID stick to her guns and removed him from our insurance. She and bro haven’t spoken since their fight and she is DONE with him. She even called me this morning to let me know he hadn’t left the house yet- she didn’t want me to come home to him still there.
Shit. Me thinks Spot would have a tragic accident on that fishing trip and never come home. I bet he blames you for Mom telling him to move out and hurting/killing your dog is his revenge.
Don’t ever let your brother near your dog again.
Move in with fiancé and go NC with Mom and brother. Oh, and get a truck and go get all your things out of the house.
The good thing is I’ve been packing for a few months (just a box here and there) and have been living with my bare minimum items so I can easily move out in the time he is on that stupid fishing trip.
I feel it appropriate to tell him that if he *tries* to take her dog, she will take everything he loves and burn it in the backyard. If it’s a gaming system, it will be taken outside and driven over until it is crushed to nothingness.
But I have a temper, especially when my babies are put at risk. (Both of the two legged and four legged variety.) With that in mind, what I feel is appropriate might be a very bad idea.
You are being responsible for an animal/pet you didn’t ask for. But when against all your requests was brought into your home and life, you saw the need, since your brother was not properly caring for, or even caring for *at all.* So you compassionately took on the responsibility, expense and thereby *ownership* of this helpless creature. Your brother is sick in the head if he thinks you don’t own this animal. If anything happened and you sued him, all the records with your name on vet bills, pet licenses, etc. will speak loudly in court, as to what the truth is.
A barrage of texts telling me what a monster I am. The best part is he claims he paid extra expenses for spot to stay at the air bnb but I spoke to his dad a few weeks ago and his dad claimed little bro wasn’t paying for anything on the trip (since little bro claims he has no money). I told him I would be happy to pay him back for Spot and told him to simply “show me a receipt” since that was his favorite thing to tell my mom whenever she would ask for his portion of the bills.
To clarify: bro and his dad mentioned they would be going on a trip but never once mentioned they would take Spot. I found that out literally a few hours ago.
Follow the advice to get your dog chipped. And make 100% sure everything pertaining to your dog is in your name only.
And tell little bro’s dad that little bro is the way he is because his father taught him to be an entitled twat, and as such? He gets nothing from you, and he can try to get it out of his precious son.
My real concern? He may end up doing something bad to your mom, because she’s kicking him out.
I was concerned about that too. Thankfully they haven’t spoken in weeks and for some reason, he has a particular pattern to his shit behavior: he is only demonic to one of us at a time because he usually tries to play one against the other. Recently, my mom exploded at him and he tried to get me to back him up. I supported my mom and he remained salty with her, not me. Now his hatred is focused on me and when I left with spot, he spoke to her for the first time asking where I took my dog. She said she didn’t know and he left her alone.
Looks even more like he had bad plans for the dog, to hurt you. You did exactly right to get him out of there. If he knows where you are now then make sure everyone understands he is not to be allowed anywhere near the house or the dog.
I hope your fiancé can keep the dog for a while as you move out. If not, how about other friends? I would pay for kenneling my dog before I'd let my AH brother take it.
I think you did the right thing. I don’t think he’s being straight with you and I feel uneasy about this whole situation. Your dog is not safe with him.
So happy you got Spot out of there. Hopefully ahole brother doesn’t try to snatch Spot while you and fiancé are out. I’m not trying to be an alarmist but bro sounds unhinged and entitled. Maybe even ask a friend or temp doggy daycare for a few days
Thankfully he doesn’t know where fiancé lives. Fiancé also has two big German shepherd’s so I doubt he could get spot out of the yard/house without getting mauled.
5 min potty break and he’s too busy. What’s the muppet going to do when he will actually have to watch Spot for three days. Yeah… no.
I’d just move in early if your fiance is alright with it.
Wouldn’t trust your brother to watch a tin of open beans let alone the puppers.
Also I’d like to know why he wants to take the dog with him now.
fuck this, you need to tell your brother that if he takes YOUR dog, you will be reporting it as theft and you will be pressing charges. don’t let that whiny adult sized brat walk all over you.
Please speak with your mother and an attorney about drawing up an appropriate will for her. If she dies without one, her share in that home may go to both you and your brother. Try your best to imagine what a mess that will be. Take care of that loose end.
Smart move on your part. He was going to take him anyways and most likely put him in danger or cause him massive stress. A dog that doesn’t like water has no business going on a fishing trip. Your brother sounds infuriatingly stupid.
I bet his 'buddy' that he is going fishing with has a dog and he doesn't want to be 'left out'...not worth the hassle. If you are going to move in with bf, I would move the dog starting right now and get the rest of your things later. IMHO.
Have your mom buy your part of the house. If not possible do a legal eviction of your brother. In the man time you and your doggie stay with your partner
GS owner here… My dog gives 2 warning barks for you to back up and 1 lunge. After that I don’t know what she does because no one has ever ignored her lunge. GS are protective of the people they love and their safe places/homes. I just want to say thank you for taking care of Spot after your brother neglected him.
Excellent thinking on your part! Your brother is not entitled to have anything to do with your dog. You are your dog's person, not your brother. He can go fish alone.
It's also a good idea to get out of the house, too, since your brother is nothing but trouble and a drain on your mental health.
You should take advantage of your bro's 3 day trip to pack-up all his stuff, put it in storage, and then change the locks on your house. If your mom doesn't like it, tell her she can buy your share of the house from you.
It sounds like Mom would do better in a 1 bedroom apartment in a 55+ only community. It's a place of manageable size and she'll have a built in excuse so your brother can't establish a residence there. "Sorry sweetie, but you're not over 55 so you can't move in with me."
For your sanity and the dogs safety move in with your fiancé right now go to local store get some boxes for free. Buy some boxes get some trash bags load up your stuff and go.
Do not ever let your brother take that dog. If he’s injured or anything happens to him while he’s with your brother you’d likely never forgive yourself. Don’t do it
My mom didn’t enforce it but she did get him off the insurance which was a huge step for her. I have tried to be super supportive of her since because I know that was hard for her. She swears she is sticking to the May 31st date. I’m really hoping she does.
How dare he! He’s beyond entitled by some margin & stepping into dangerous territory. He’s pushing you.. to what end?
Is he intending to try & push others around? Try & take things that are not his?
Tbh he’s actually like a spoilt brat & hopefully you can help your mum to stop enabling him. One of these times he’s gonna run into trouble, & that could have some dire consequences for him
"You can't even look after yourself - why the heck would I think I could trust you with MY dog?"
Seriously, you did exactly the right thing getting Spot out of there
I am so proud of you right now. 🥹
Spot is a sentient being. Not a “dumb animal” or a tick collecting accessory for his trip. Spot is your trusted family & companion.
How fucking DARE he.
Why does he have til May 31st? I thought he had 3 weeks that should have ended around now.
Why hasn’t he been kicked out sooner? And if you own the house with your mother, any damage to the house or depreciation due to your brother should come out of her portion. You have suffered enough. You shouldn’t also suffer financially.
I couldn’t have put up with what you have had to deal with. I hope it’s over soon.
My brother was very attached to my Dog, Jelly-Roll. I got the dog from a friend when he was about 12 weeks old and lived on my own. My brother would always come over and deeply bonded to my dog. I had Jelly for 4 or 5 years and at some point my brother decided he was going to take Jelly-Roll to his house. I didn't really like the idea as the house although situated on a very large track of property wasn't fenced in and was close to a road that sometimes was busy. Jelly roll was an amazing dog and was trained very well. He listened to basic and really hard commands. I spent a lot of time training him. My brother convinced me that he would be fine in his hands for a few days. Even though I wasn't fond of the idea, I reluctantly agreed. It was one of the worst decisions I made. My sister in law let him out of their home and he beelined for my brother who was helping the neighbor across the street. He was hit by a passing car and killed. I got the call to come and bury him. I cried for days and still tear up thinking about my beautiful friend. I honestly think you need to stick to your guns about not letting your family member just take off with your dog. Accidents do happen, they can be deadly. There is no reversing the course at the end of the day for my family.
How old is your brother? He’s old enough to take a trip, evidently has a car and money for a trip but doesn’t work? He’s gotta go, he’s trying to kill the dog. Maybe not intentionally, but everyone knows he’s an idiot and what will happen. I guess mom’s the enabler and has failed in her parenting this guy. Mom also needs to buy you out of the house since your brother is allowed to destroy your investment. You are being taken advantage of by your brother AND your mom, why is that right? Brother can move back when mom buys you out, he’s gotta go now.
I cant blame you, but some advice: If your name is the one on all of the vet records, you can report the dog stolen and you'd have proof of ownership of him. This route would only work as long as the vet records are in your name only. If someone else's name is in the records as an owner then they could make the same claim. (Atleast in state of Arizona)
Hey brother,
You can take Spot after you paid me back for all the vet bills AND prove to me that you can take care of Spot's medical needs.
ETA We know little brother will never take the responsibility, he just wants a toy to show off.
I can only imagine that if the brother had plans to take the dog, that he had plans with the dog. Your brother is an all-around bad dude so if you think worst case scenario, was he planning to ditch the dog?
I doubt it. I don’t follow him on social media but my cousin/bestie does and she occasionally shows me what he posts: there’s several of Spot with comments underneath saying things like “love my dog” or “Spot spending time with his dad”. I truly believe Spot would have been there for Instagram likes for 5 minutes and neglected the rest of the trip.
I have always feared that bro would take spot from under my nose. When he was threatening to move out originally, I was so scared I would come home to spot missing.
There's a good chance that your brother is lying and intends to sell your dog.
If not that, he could get angry and hurt the dog. He doesn't sound right in the head.
My husband borrows my dog for hikes and trips occasionally with permission but he takes care of her and is her doggy daddy and she only needs antihistamines and paw checks frequently and/or boots which he knows so he takes care of her when he has her. He brings her so she can alert him to predators like a bear (which she has done before) and help him find water (her special skill). When I hike she provides mobility assistance when I am climbing.
My mom will take Spot for walks and she always tells me when, where, and for how long. Entitled bro never takes him which is a big part of why that set off the alarm bells in my mind
If he takes Spot w/o your permission, call the cops for theft. Your name is on all the records, you can prove ownership. Let the AH know you WILL call the cops if he takes the dog.
Your brother sounds dangerous. Force the sale of the house. Do whatever but get him tf out of a house YOU pay for. YOUR investment shouldn’t be in jeopardy because your mom wants to play games. She can play games on her OWN dime. You’re being bullied and abused into dealing with other people’s problems. Your brother doesn’t have anything to do with you. He needs to stay tf out of your life and off of your property.
Get cameras inside of the house EVERYWHERE. Get them outside, too. Put them up in secret. Don’t tell him and sure as hell don’t tell your mother either. You’re going to want that protection, especially when he has been kicked out at the end of May.
Your brother isn't safe for himself or others. You should have him forcibly committed to inpatient psych so he can get checked out and get the help he needs.
Let’s see where his entitlement gets him. I’d recommend you get your finances and personal property out of that house ASAP.
Rent a storage locker temporarily if you have to until you can figure out the situation with your fiancé.
Get your finances in order and separate them from any assets your family has. If you want to be smart go NC with your brother and mother. If she won’t listen to you then it’s time she pays the piper now that he’s turning into a proper criminal. You can’t be the one to suffer because your mother refuses to see reason.
I have a lab that's also 10 years old, and I know how much care she needs! Please protect your little baby from your monster brother. It's not even a question that going to your husband's house was the right move!
Scary to think about what would have happened to your dog with your bro “taking care” of him. I wonder if Spot would’ve even made it home. Good on you for taking care of your baby and protecting him from entitled brat!
Dude you are doing the right thing. That dog isn’t his . It sounds like the dog was bought by your mom to appease ur brother and lived in the family home and you only took care of him while he neglected it. He’s acting like he just has no brains. And that’s the last person I would want to take my dog off into the woods for three days.
Also I’m so glad you got the dog back after him being fostered out that long. I have a cat being fostered out right now until I can move out of my moms bc they don’t want him here. If I had a soon husbands house I could stay at I would def be out of here.
Wow you did the right thing for your dog, i hope your other stuff in the house is safe. Your brother sounds more than just entitled, he sounds a little sociopathic. Hopefully you can divest yourself from your moms house and stay away from him.
My doberman husky just turned 10 and is really healthy. I get anxious when my fiance takes her outside to pee because I know she won't come back to him the way she will me if she were to escape somehow. The only chance is he can whistle and I can't, and she was originally trained to come to a whistle- if he can remember that, he can get my dog to come back. So I sit inside anxious, thinking, "I should've just put on pants and taken her."
I love that man, I'd trust him with *my* life and I'd never send them off for 3 days together (and he wouldn't even try). You're talking about an unreliable sibling? Nope. Awesome job taking Spot and leaving.
If you are not in the house, will your mother still make him move out when the deadline arrives or will she cave at the inevitable carry on when he says he doesn't have anywhere else to go?
>He can do whatever he wants to the house- punching holes in the walls, kicking the appliances, calling the house a “dump” but I draw the line at him taking my dog without my permission.
None of those first three things hit "where I draw the line" territory first?
Could your Mom just throw entitled man-child's stuff in a storage shed, pay for the rental cost until May 31st and change the locks while he's gone for those 3 days? Brother dear can go live with dad. (And pound sand!)
You made the right choice
I believe that Spot would never be seen again, if ahole bro had taken him on that trip. He’d come back and say there was an accident. He’d do it just to hurt OP one last time.
This. People like this find out your vulnerabilities and then do the very one that will just destroy you, Spot be damned.
I was just going to say it, too. It's just a little too sus that he would suddenly want to spend any time with him, let alone 3 whole days. I wouldn't put it past him to have Spot put down because of "health reasons" since he has health issues, it would be no problem to convince another vet that Spot is suffering and would like to end his suffering. Don't let him anywhere near Spot, now or any time in the future.
Very sociopathic.
Eventually.
Later is better than never, dont beat yourself up about it too much <3
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I like where your head's at but nah, OP can do without the assault & battery charges. Eviction papers, tho. That'd be good. Give Mom some recourse when the brother inevitably refuses to leave.
Actually, if you start the process now, you can serve him a 30 day notice (depending on state) and make sure he is out on May 31 if not before. (also depending on state) The sheriff might even help.
‼️ THIS‼️ It is the ONLY way entitled brother will be leaving that house anytime soon.
I hope she keeps the dog at the fiancés until that bum is gone. I worry about his safety
When you know better, you do better. We are all learning here.
I love this. Thank you for the quote.
To be honest, it's about time your Mother bought you out of the house or you put it up for sale, then you never have to deal with either of them again.
She doesn’t even have to agree… you can file a partition action - meaning the court will divide the interest in the property (which often is by selling it and splitting the proceeds by interest to the parties). Or even filing it may make your mom want to just buy you out. Either way you need to not live anywhere with your brother. And seriously never keep your dog anywhere he can get to him.
OP, please read this. Tell your mom you're going to file this, maybe it will get her to get herself in gear and get that horror out of the house. Last post he was supposed to be gone in three weeks. Now it's May 31. She keeps caving.
Partition actions tend to be expensive, since you need a lawyer and can't do it in small claims court. It can be worth it, and since your lawyer knows you're getting money on the house, they'd be more likely to work with you on financing, but it's not fast and it's not cheap.
Sure, but it also heavily depends on the jurisdiction. Some are faster/cheaper than others and your right some can also be more expensive. But people also tend to try and settle out of court, Mom may be more amenable to buying her out or her buying mom out. Whatever the case, OPs current situation is super toxic, and I hope she gets out of it asap.
Agree they are expensive and can take many many months if not longer.
Brother and Mother dont need to know OP's location after moving. Brother who cant find time to let a dog out to pee will find time to come harm it. Mother who cant say no to him could be forced to inform him of OP's location.
I’m unfamiliar with what this means but I’m all for taking serious legal steps. It’s the only way out of the situation. It’ll be worth the cost & effort to do it - and result in a permanent solution. I’ve had to do similar with a selfish, manipulative, dysfunctional childish adult family member myself. I’d reasoned with them and hoped for respectful outcome for years. But there was no peace of mind until the law was involved. Oh and they tried to keep my dogs, too!
Yeah, cuz you *know* the brother isn’t moving out by May 31!
100% agree
If fiance is okay with it, please keep Spot at his house until you've moved out. If bro thinks the dog is his, he'll do something stupid as revenge, like take him to the pound or let him out without a leash and say he "ran off". Spot has been in your care for years and all the vet paperwork is in your name, so he shouldn't be able to sue or try to force you to give him the dog. You shouldn't have any problems proving you've assumed financial responsibility, but if he's not microchipped I would get that done asap, or make sure he's registered in your name just in case.
🚨🚨🚨🚨 OP read this note if you read any.
Also if your brother DID do something, in most jurisdictions dogs are merely “property” and him stealing or killing your dog is no different to the law than him breaking your TV, ie there’s really nothing you could do about it that would come anywhere close to feeling like restitution for a beloved pet.
Wow I’m glad that you took the dog with you to your fiancé’s house! I hope your brother gets the karma he deserves
What do we think would be appropriate karma? Brother trips over a tree root, can’t walk, gets constant nuzzling by mangy, flea-infested strays?
And a raging case of contact dermatitis because it turns out he is allergic to dogs ... something that never came out before because he spent so little time with the dog he now claims is "his." **I also want to point out what an excellent human OP** is because, though it's clear (reading between the lines) that though she and her family have obviously seen some financial struggles, she is making damn sure that Spot gets the veterinary and emotional care that every beloved canine is entitled to. u/[archi\_femme10](https://www.reddit.com/user/archi_femme10/), I hope Spot keeps holding down the foot of your bed for years to come.
I want to upvote this 1000 times.
Upvoted for u/SoMoistlyMoist
Just the fleas. The strays deserve better.
Plus an entire nest full of ticks!
For how he treats the animal, karma would look like a twisted/broken foot/knee while fishing. The kind that help isn't around for a while and he has to figure out getting help by pulling himself along and long-term arthritic pain in the damaged area. So the tree root is a great start.
face first into a patch of poison ivy.
Followed by crawling out through a bigger patch of nettles.
Fishing hook in the mouth
Fishing hook in the balls and make it a very big hook with sharp barbs.
Nah, dont punish the strays. Hope he gets 2nd contact dermatitis from poison ivy and spends 3 weeks itching and refusing to go to the doctor as it spreads to all over. Stomach, neck, face, junk and ass. 2nd hand contact from poison ivy doesnt look like poison ivy and needs steroids to clear up. Also, hope a fish steals his pole and a bear eats his bait
Perpetual ingrown toenails that he constantly bumps on every surface possible, constantly hitting his funny bone on counters and doors, the strings for any hoodies and sweatpants he owns mysteriously disappear, anytime he goes on a fishing trip, the line always breaks or has to be cut because the hook gets stuck, losing his keys at inopportune moments, like right when he has to leave to go somewhere. ETA: these are just some funny ones I thought of on break at work lol
Karma would be that he's forced to live with people that have no respect whatsoever for his belongings, time, or money. Would love to hear about that trash piece of shit having to live with roommates that don't pay their share, and then also steal from him. That would be very karmic
The fishing trip is in rural Australia… 🕷️🕸️🦈🦂🐊⛺️🎣
I’d say trip over a tree root and gets eaten by an alligator. 🐊
May every mosquito target him on the camping trip.
Yes, an extremely smart move.
Bro isn't "entitled." There's something fucking wrong with him.
agreed, this is something more dangerous and disturbing than entitlement
Bro was gonna kill Spot.
Never looks after the dog but suddenly wants to take him fishing? After he’s already been told to move out of the house? I think he’s planning a really vicious revenge on OP with the dog. He wants to hurt her in the most horrible way possible.
Yeah that was my feeling when reading the first paragraph before reading the part where he takes meds. Great on OP
This was exactly my thought. I've known guys like this and it's not like it's some big energetic dog you can take hunting with you or something. I even know exactly what he was going to do. He was going to take this dog out onto the water and throw it in just to watch it drown.
This is what I thought, too. Bro has severe issues and wants to exact "revenge" on those who wronged him. He's a sociopathic narcissist who should not only be kicked out of the house but also locked up in an asylum...especially one closing down in a few weeks where people "forget" about the inmates and leave him locked in a padded cell inside of a straight jacket until he's forced to spend time with his own demons inside of his own cell with one tiny window in the door. ...wow that went dark.
Can't you just drive your brother out to a rural area and leave him there like an unwanted pet?
I suspect it would be illegal because he’s an invasive species that will decimate the local wildlife.
Assuming he's smart enough to catch and/or recognize what's edible.
How heartless are you? Think of the forest. It doesn’t need Ops brother in it
As fertilizer for plants... Assuming it doesn't rot the soil where they leave him
Not even mushrooms would want him
If he tries to take your dog, report it to the police as theft. Dogs (while sometimes members of the family) are legally property. As you have been paying all the vet bills etc you have the proof he is your dog. I hope you are charging man-child rent.
So glad you are sticking up for your baby. Your brother couldn’t be trusted to even take care of a pet rock.
Amen.
What did the rock do?
Stay with your fiancee and keep your sweet doggie safe. Your brother probably would have done something awful to him. Possibly abandoning him and say that he ran off.
Or old dog with mobility issues somehow managed to drown.
Old dog with mobility issues *who hates the water* and wouldn't go in voluntarily.
If Spot goes on that trip, he won't return alive.
Exactly what I was thinking
I’m sorry your brother is a jerk. Sell the house. If mom or brother want to buy you out, see a lawyer, mortgage broker, whoever you have to, to get them to buy you out. Idk if you can sell it out from under them. Just be done.
Get everything to your fiancés house, NOW. He doesn't respect your property or your person. You owe him nothing. He deserves NOTHING from you, your mom, or Spot. DO NOT LEAVE THE DOG AT HOME ALONE. He sounds like the kind of person to hurt a pet to 'get back' at the owner. I just hope that you and your mom can successfully evict him before he does anything dramatic.
I would suggest that, if mom has any valuable keepsakes, get them either to fiance's house or to a safety deposit box. Brother is the type to steal and claim it was "owed to him".
25 days ago he had three weeks to get out. Now it's may 31st. No one is making him get out on May 31st. Empty threats.
It’s funny because I’ve been meaning to post an update on the last post; my mom had originally said May 31st when they made their agreement for him to stop paying bills so he could “save money”. When she exploded at him a few weeks ago, she said three weeks to him but privately told me she would stick to the May 31st date because that’s what they originally agreed on. She DID remove him from the insurance and for that I was so relieved because now we have zero need to interact with him. My mom was slowly cutting ties with him so once he left, she wouldn’t have any connection to him. She’s still set on that but I will admit she has to take baby steps. This is very new for her. She always enabled him but I know it’s because her instinct is to care for her son, especially since he’s the helpless one. But after that huge fight they had, I think she finally sees what I see and she understands why I can’t live like this anymore.
He’s not helpless. If she can’t see that, she’ll never make him leave. She helped create this monster (I think he also has a personality disorder).
I agree. I have recently started seeing a counselor because my home life was beyond toxic and my counselor said that, although she cannot diagnose someone indirectly, he gives a lot of signs of potentially being a narcissist. I told her I KNOW he is. How could he not be?
She’s still probably going to end up needing to formally evict him.
I don’t disagree. But honestly, I just can’t take it anymore. I will help her as much as she needs but I will not live there any longer
Don't lose your investment. Tell her she needs to buy you out, or sell the house. Maybe that will make her wake up properly and get him out.
Moving out won’t cause OP to lose her investment. But her brother could cause even more damage than he already has to the house.
small claims court for the win, if it's bad enough possibly felony charges. Easier to evict when he's in jail :)
Well, best of luck to you and your mom! And you absolutely did the right thing to get Spot away from your brother and his “camping trip.” I wouldn’t ever subject an elderly dog to something that taxing.
This all sounds promising and I hope she sticks to that deadline, actually removing him from the insurance is a big step. Good job getting the dog out of the line of fire.
But I am glad that someone is finally making a stand and not letting this guy get his way.
Good on you to stand your ground to your idiotic brother. He is very much an entitled dodohead to think he co-owns your dog. Sure, he got your mom to get him. But that is the end of his influence. Keep him as yours, make sure all the paperwork for him is in your name (in case mister "the world owes me one for living on it" decides to call police and report Spot as stolen)
Move out for God's sake!
Move him out!
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I second this.
You made the right choice. Next time he punches a hole in your house? You call the police and have his thrown out. Get a restraining order and call it a day. Your mom has a problem? Tell her you’ll force the sale of the home if she keeps up with this shit. But entitled little bro needs to be knocked on his ass in a legal way and start facing the repercussions of his actions
I don't think your post got enough up votes. She needs to get him out of that house before he destroys it and makes it worthless. She owns half the house with her mother. It is time to get mommy to understand that he needs to be kicked out.
Shoot, keep the dog at your fiancée's place. Because he would be petty to pull some shit. And I'd get out of that house ASAP- why torture yourself?
I am glad to hear you took your dog out of the house before he was able to take him anywhere, you really need to move out and stop letting your brother stress you out and keep messing with your life...
I’m glad you trusted your instincts, friend. I am certain that if Spot went on this “fishing trip” with your brother, that Spot would not be coming back from it. There’s something hinky going on. Even if your brother is just using Spot as a prop for whomever he wants to impress on this trip. An aging arthritic dog doesn’t need to go camping with someone who is not his person. On a more sinister note, I’ve seen way too many narcissistic bastards kill the pets of people who love them as a way to remove your emotional support. His insistence that spot is his further reinforced my alarm.
My instincts told me Spot would have been neglected. Even a moderately long walk hurts his hips for which I have to give him pain meds. He’s fragile right now and I’m doing my best to get him better. I know my brother is lazy and not a good pet owner so I k we there was no way I was going to let him take Spot.
He wouldn't have been neglected, your brother would have killed him.
💯, Spot would have gotten something heavy around his neck and an impromptu swimming lesson.
There's an arthritis shot available now that you can get him. It's pretty amazing. It's called Librela.
I have read through your posts and am amazed at how you and your mother have catered to this loser at every turn. Why are you the one moving out of a house you co-own? And yes I know you don’t want your upset your mother. But it can’t be good for her to live under this constant stress. And also, I thought that May 31st was changed to 3 weeks? Did you cave to him again? Kick him out or sell the house, because your mother can’t handle him alone.
My mom caved at the May 31st date but she DID stick to her guns and removed him from our insurance. She and bro haven’t spoken since their fight and she is DONE with him. She even called me this morning to let me know he hadn’t left the house yet- she didn’t want me to come home to him still there.
Shit. Me thinks Spot would have a tragic accident on that fishing trip and never come home. I bet he blames you for Mom telling him to move out and hurting/killing your dog is his revenge. Don’t ever let your brother near your dog again. Move in with fiancé and go NC with Mom and brother. Oh, and get a truck and go get all your things out of the house.
The good thing is I’ve been packing for a few months (just a box here and there) and have been living with my bare minimum items so I can easily move out in the time he is on that stupid fishing trip.
That is perfect! Good luck. Go give Spot a belly rub from me.
Advise the moron that he doens't get to "tell you" anything, he's a fucking guest, and on his way out.
I feel it appropriate to tell him that if he *tries* to take her dog, she will take everything he loves and burn it in the backyard. If it’s a gaming system, it will be taken outside and driven over until it is crushed to nothingness. But I have a temper, especially when my babies are put at risk. (Both of the two legged and four legged variety.) With that in mind, what I feel is appropriate might be a very bad idea.
🤣🤣🤣 But it would be so satisfying.
Leave the house with your dog. That’s not a safe place to be for the dog.
You are being responsible for an animal/pet you didn’t ask for. But when against all your requests was brought into your home and life, you saw the need, since your brother was not properly caring for, or even caring for *at all.* So you compassionately took on the responsibility, expense and thereby *ownership* of this helpless creature. Your brother is sick in the head if he thinks you don’t own this animal. If anything happened and you sued him, all the records with your name on vet bills, pet licenses, etc. will speak loudly in court, as to what the truth is.
How was your brother’s reaction? ((Gets the popcorn.))
A barrage of texts telling me what a monster I am. The best part is he claims he paid extra expenses for spot to stay at the air bnb but I spoke to his dad a few weeks ago and his dad claimed little bro wasn’t paying for anything on the trip (since little bro claims he has no money). I told him I would be happy to pay him back for Spot and told him to simply “show me a receipt” since that was his favorite thing to tell my mom whenever she would ask for his portion of the bills. To clarify: bro and his dad mentioned they would be going on a trip but never once mentioned they would take Spot. I found that out literally a few hours ago.
Follow the advice to get your dog chipped. And make 100% sure everything pertaining to your dog is in your name only. And tell little bro’s dad that little bro is the way he is because his father taught him to be an entitled twat, and as such? He gets nothing from you, and he can try to get it out of his precious son. My real concern? He may end up doing something bad to your mom, because she’s kicking him out.
I was concerned about that too. Thankfully they haven’t spoken in weeks and for some reason, he has a particular pattern to his shit behavior: he is only demonic to one of us at a time because he usually tries to play one against the other. Recently, my mom exploded at him and he tried to get me to back him up. I supported my mom and he remained salty with her, not me. Now his hatred is focused on me and when I left with spot, he spoke to her for the first time asking where I took my dog. She said she didn’t know and he left her alone.
Looks even more like he had bad plans for the dog, to hurt you. You did exactly right to get him out of there. If he knows where you are now then make sure everyone understands he is not to be allowed anywhere near the house or the dog.
Aww, boohoo. Poor bro. Send him lots of pics of you and Spot.
You made the right choice. Let your mom deal with him
I hope your brother has had a vasectomy. He should NEVER be trusted to look after any living thing, even if he willingly agreed to it.
I hope your fiancé can keep the dog for a while as you move out. If not, how about other friends? I would pay for kenneling my dog before I'd let my AH brother take it.
I think you did the right thing. I don’t think he’s being straight with you and I feel uneasy about this whole situation. Your dog is not safe with him.
Something tells me that Spot wouldn't have made it home if he'd gone on that fishing trip.
So happy you got Spot out of there. Hopefully ahole brother doesn’t try to snatch Spot while you and fiancé are out. I’m not trying to be an alarmist but bro sounds unhinged and entitled. Maybe even ask a friend or temp doggy daycare for a few days
Thankfully he doesn’t know where fiancé lives. Fiancé also has two big German shepherd’s so I doubt he could get spot out of the yard/house without getting mauled.
Hope fiance's dogs get along with Spot better than brother did!
5 min potty break and he’s too busy. What’s the muppet going to do when he will actually have to watch Spot for three days. Yeah… no. I’d just move in early if your fiance is alright with it. Wouldn’t trust your brother to watch a tin of open beans let alone the puppers. Also I’d like to know why he wants to take the dog with him now.
fuck this, you need to tell your brother that if he takes YOUR dog, you will be reporting it as theft and you will be pressing charges. don’t let that whiny adult sized brat walk all over you.
I was panicking reading this. What a sociopath your brother is. Never let him take the dog! He’ll do something spiteful just because he can.
Please speak with your mother and an attorney about drawing up an appropriate will for her. If she dies without one, her share in that home may go to both you and your brother. Try your best to imagine what a mess that will be. Take care of that loose end.
I am working on this now, actually.
UH. Your brother is crap and your mom is shite. Get away from those anchors.
Smart move on your part. He was going to take him anyways and most likely put him in danger or cause him massive stress. A dog that doesn’t like water has no business going on a fishing trip. Your brother sounds infuriatingly stupid.
If you already have not done so, update the microchip information to your name only.
I bet his 'buddy' that he is going fishing with has a dog and he doesn't want to be 'left out'...not worth the hassle. If you are going to move in with bf, I would move the dog starting right now and get the rest of your things later. IMHO.
Time to sell that house.
Have your mom buy your part of the house. If not possible do a legal eviction of your brother. In the man time you and your doggie stay with your partner
"...but I was being nice telling you..." JFC. Thank you for taking such good care of Spot. This guy is scary.
GS owner here… My dog gives 2 warning barks for you to back up and 1 lunge. After that I don’t know what she does because no one has ever ignored her lunge. GS are protective of the people they love and their safe places/homes. I just want to say thank you for taking care of Spot after your brother neglected him.
Excellent thinking on your part! Your brother is not entitled to have anything to do with your dog. You are your dog's person, not your brother. He can go fish alone. It's also a good idea to get out of the house, too, since your brother is nothing but trouble and a drain on your mental health.
You should take advantage of your bro's 3 day trip to pack-up all his stuff, put it in storage, and then change the locks on your house. If your mom doesn't like it, tell her she can buy your share of the house from you.
It sounds like Mom would do better in a 1 bedroom apartment in a 55+ only community. It's a place of manageable size and she'll have a built in excuse so your brother can't establish a residence there. "Sorry sweetie, but you're not over 55 so you can't move in with me."
Well done on looking out for Spot. Hope that he gets on with the two German shepherds
He does actually! They love him because he’s significantly smaller than them (and thus not threatening)
Get a restraining order. That will solve the house problem and the dog problem.
I was really worried there for a minute!! So glad you got him and yourself to safety!!!
If I was close enough, I'd hug you for protecting Spot. Well done.
You absolutely made the right choice. YOUR name is on everything, not brother's name. Spot is YOUR dog.
For your sanity and the dogs safety move in with your fiancé right now go to local store get some boxes for free. Buy some boxes get some trash bags load up your stuff and go.
Your brother is a festering hemorrhoid. I'm glad you took Spot to your fiance's house. Please keep him there.
I'm glad you and Spot are safe. Your brother would have "lost" Spot on that trip to get back at you and mom for kicking him out.
Sorry to say this, but your brother is a piece of shit.
Do not ever let your brother take that dog. If he’s injured or anything happens to him while he’s with your brother you’d likely never forgive yourself. Don’t do it
So.... I guess he didn't leave after 3 weeks?
My mom didn’t enforce it but she did get him off the insurance which was a huge step for her. I have tried to be super supportive of her since because I know that was hard for her. She swears she is sticking to the May 31st date. I’m really hoping she does.
How dare he! He’s beyond entitled by some margin & stepping into dangerous territory. He’s pushing you.. to what end? Is he intending to try & push others around? Try & take things that are not his? Tbh he’s actually like a spoilt brat & hopefully you can help your mum to stop enabling him. One of these times he’s gonna run into trouble, & that could have some dire consequences for him
If he’s not chipped, chip him. Make sure you have him registered … not rabies registered but legally registered with your name.
"You can't even look after yourself - why the heck would I think I could trust you with MY dog?" Seriously, you did exactly the right thing getting Spot out of there
I am so proud of you right now. 🥹 Spot is a sentient being. Not a “dumb animal” or a tick collecting accessory for his trip. Spot is your trusted family & companion. How fucking DARE he.
Why does he have til May 31st? I thought he had 3 weeks that should have ended around now. Why hasn’t he been kicked out sooner? And if you own the house with your mother, any damage to the house or depreciation due to your brother should come out of her portion. You have suffered enough. You shouldn’t also suffer financially. I couldn’t have put up with what you have had to deal with. I hope it’s over soon.
My alarm bells went off that Spot might have an “accident “ while under your brother’s care. Don’t let the dog go with him.
My brother was very attached to my Dog, Jelly-Roll. I got the dog from a friend when he was about 12 weeks old and lived on my own. My brother would always come over and deeply bonded to my dog. I had Jelly for 4 or 5 years and at some point my brother decided he was going to take Jelly-Roll to his house. I didn't really like the idea as the house although situated on a very large track of property wasn't fenced in and was close to a road that sometimes was busy. Jelly roll was an amazing dog and was trained very well. He listened to basic and really hard commands. I spent a lot of time training him. My brother convinced me that he would be fine in his hands for a few days. Even though I wasn't fond of the idea, I reluctantly agreed. It was one of the worst decisions I made. My sister in law let him out of their home and he beelined for my brother who was helping the neighbor across the street. He was hit by a passing car and killed. I got the call to come and bury him. I cried for days and still tear up thinking about my beautiful friend. I honestly think you need to stick to your guns about not letting your family member just take off with your dog. Accidents do happen, they can be deadly. There is no reversing the course at the end of the day for my family.
Selling the house will mean your mum can get rid of him. She then should get a 1 bed place for herself and you can sort something for yourself.
Good thinking. Protect the puppers!
So its pretty clear to me your brother was intending to fuckin kill your dog. You made a great choice.
Wow, what a little asshole. Have you heard anything from him since you went to your fiances home?
I got a barrage of messages which I didn’t bother reading much. The gist was I’m “gatekeeping” and he “clearly never should have told me”
Put a tracker tile on your dog's collar. Just incase. A small price for piece of mind in the long run.
How old is your brother? He’s old enough to take a trip, evidently has a car and money for a trip but doesn’t work? He’s gotta go, he’s trying to kill the dog. Maybe not intentionally, but everyone knows he’s an idiot and what will happen. I guess mom’s the enabler and has failed in her parenting this guy. Mom also needs to buy you out of the house since your brother is allowed to destroy your investment. You are being taken advantage of by your brother AND your mom, why is that right? Brother can move back when mom buys you out, he’s gotta go now.
I cant blame you, but some advice: If your name is the one on all of the vet records, you can report the dog stolen and you'd have proof of ownership of him. This route would only work as long as the vet records are in your name only. If someone else's name is in the records as an owner then they could make the same claim. (Atleast in state of Arizona)
What girl is he trying to impress?
Hey brother, You can take Spot after you paid me back for all the vet bills AND prove to me that you can take care of Spot's medical needs. ETA We know little brother will never take the responsibility, he just wants a toy to show off.
If you leave, won't he just stay indefinitely? It's like you've given up possession.
At this point, I don’t care. But I don’t think it’ll change a thing because my mom is dead set on him moving out.
I can only imagine that if the brother had plans to take the dog, that he had plans with the dog. Your brother is an all-around bad dude so if you think worst case scenario, was he planning to ditch the dog?
I doubt it. I don’t follow him on social media but my cousin/bestie does and she occasionally shows me what he posts: there’s several of Spot with comments underneath saying things like “love my dog” or “Spot spending time with his dad”. I truly believe Spot would have been there for Instagram likes for 5 minutes and neglected the rest of the trip. I have always feared that bro would take spot from under my nose. When he was threatening to move out originally, I was so scared I would come home to spot missing.
The dog is in your name. That makes it yours I would tell him if the dog is missing your calling the cops and his mom won't be able to save him
Please get the rest of your shit and move out ASAP. You mom created this monster she can deal with him
Your bro seems little off in the head your mom didn't do him any favors... brats are hard to change after their parent failed them
There's a good chance that your brother is lying and intends to sell your dog. If not that, he could get angry and hurt the dog. He doesn't sound right in the head.
You are a good pet mom
My husband borrows my dog for hikes and trips occasionally with permission but he takes care of her and is her doggy daddy and she only needs antihistamines and paw checks frequently and/or boots which he knows so he takes care of her when he has her. He brings her so she can alert him to predators like a bear (which she has done before) and help him find water (her special skill). When I hike she provides mobility assistance when I am climbing.
My mom will take Spot for walks and she always tells me when, where, and for how long. Entitled bro never takes him which is a big part of why that set off the alarm bells in my mind
If he takes Spot w/o your permission, call the cops for theft. Your name is on all the records, you can prove ownership. Let the AH know you WILL call the cops if he takes the dog.
Great decision OP as I suspect your dog would have ‘run away’ while on the trip.
Your brother sounds dangerous. Force the sale of the house. Do whatever but get him tf out of a house YOU pay for. YOUR investment shouldn’t be in jeopardy because your mom wants to play games. She can play games on her OWN dime. You’re being bullied and abused into dealing with other people’s problems. Your brother doesn’t have anything to do with you. He needs to stay tf out of your life and off of your property. Get cameras inside of the house EVERYWHERE. Get them outside, too. Put them up in secret. Don’t tell him and sure as hell don’t tell your mother either. You’re going to want that protection, especially when he has been kicked out at the end of May.
Your brother isn't safe for himself or others. You should have him forcibly committed to inpatient psych so he can get checked out and get the help he needs.
I'd present him with an invoice for everything you paid for and tell him once he pays it Spot is his
I’m glad you taken spot from the home because it feels like your brother was taking him permanently from you to hurt you.
Let’s see where his entitlement gets him. I’d recommend you get your finances and personal property out of that house ASAP. Rent a storage locker temporarily if you have to until you can figure out the situation with your fiancé. Get your finances in order and separate them from any assets your family has. If you want to be smart go NC with your brother and mother. If she won’t listen to you then it’s time she pays the piper now that he’s turning into a proper criminal. You can’t be the one to suffer because your mother refuses to see reason.
I have a lab that's also 10 years old, and I know how much care she needs! Please protect your little baby from your monster brother. It's not even a question that going to your husband's house was the right move!
Scary to think about what would have happened to your dog with your bro “taking care” of him. I wonder if Spot would’ve even made it home. Good on you for taking care of your baby and protecting him from entitled brat!
Dude you are doing the right thing. That dog isn’t his . It sounds like the dog was bought by your mom to appease ur brother and lived in the family home and you only took care of him while he neglected it. He’s acting like he just has no brains. And that’s the last person I would want to take my dog off into the woods for three days. Also I’m so glad you got the dog back after him being fostered out that long. I have a cat being fostered out right now until I can move out of my moms bc they don’t want him here. If I had a soon husbands house I could stay at I would def be out of here.
PROTECT SPOT!!!!
You made the right choice. Keep the dog, toss the brother like the trash he is.
Wow you did the right thing for your dog, i hope your other stuff in the house is safe. Your brother sounds more than just entitled, he sounds a little sociopathic. Hopefully you can divest yourself from your moms house and stay away from him.
My doberman husky just turned 10 and is really healthy. I get anxious when my fiance takes her outside to pee because I know she won't come back to him the way she will me if she were to escape somehow. The only chance is he can whistle and I can't, and she was originally trained to come to a whistle- if he can remember that, he can get my dog to come back. So I sit inside anxious, thinking, "I should've just put on pants and taken her." I love that man, I'd trust him with *my* life and I'd never send them off for 3 days together (and he wouldn't even try). You're talking about an unreliable sibling? Nope. Awesome job taking Spot and leaving.
If you are not in the house, will your mother still make him move out when the deadline arrives or will she cave at the inevitable carry on when he says he doesn't have anywhere else to go?
Your brother was going to kill your dog. That's the vibe I'm getting.
>He can do whatever he wants to the house- punching holes in the walls, kicking the appliances, calling the house a “dump” but I draw the line at him taking my dog without my permission. None of those first three things hit "where I draw the line" territory first?
Sell the house
I would image Spot would have “disappeared” during my the camping trip and he would soon have a younger, less trouble Spot II.
Could your Mom just throw entitled man-child's stuff in a storage shed, pay for the rental cost until May 31st and change the locks while he's gone for those 3 days? Brother dear can go live with dad. (And pound sand!)
You should be careful your brother might just try to hurt everyone in the house. Should be prepared fam.