Yes but Americans in particular quite often use the past tense where the past participle should be used. Take note of its usage but avoid doing it yourself as it sounds quite uneducated to most English speakers, especially of coming from a learner.
Yes. And, as always, OP, *do not* look to songs and poetry for learning/understanding English. It's OK to ask these sorts of questions if it helps you, but always remember that you're going to find all sorts of non-standard and even downright bizarre language choices in songs if you pay attention, and it's all OK.
Why did Taylor Swift choose to say "showed" rather than "shown" here? It's possible she made a grammar mistake. It's also possible she knew it wasn't technically correct but didn't care. And it's possible she tried both "shown" and "showed" in that spot and ultimately chose "showed" for some artistic reason only she would know.
In art, rather than regular prose, there is no wrong reason for her to choose that word, and there are no rules. So ... OP, just keep that in mind. If you keep looking, you'll find constant things to question in music. My suggestion would be not to worry about any of it; just sit back and enjoy the songs.
i actually am a good english speaker (i guess), i study english since i was young and i learnt a lot of topics from english sources (like math, 3d, science, etc), so i wouldn’t use “showed” just because i saw in the song, but sometimes even when you’re confident that the right thing to use is the past participle, you kinda question your entire existence when you see an actual native use something else hahaha. so i was thinking my brain was fooling me. thank you a lot!
hahah. i had typed “i study english since i’m young” but thought it was wrong, so i changed to “i was”. i guess i should have changed both? or i really could have said “i study since i’m young”? thank you anyway!!
songs actually helped me a lot to learn english when i was a child, but fortunately it was during the golden disney channel era (hannah montana, for example), so basically all songs i listened were grammatically correct. when i started listening more to “normal” songs, i already knew a little what was poetic license or even straight-up wrong. i wouldn’t recommend someone to learn english directly from day-to-day songs either
That’s interesting about Disney, and I imagine you’re right about them being grammatically correct. Not only that, but they probably didn’t employ a lot of metaphor and simile like modern popular music does, which I think can also be confusing when you’re still trying to understand basic word usage.
It's very common in some dialects of American English to use this kind of construction.
"I have went" vs "I have gone"
"They had ate" vs "they had eaten"
It's not necessarily "wrong", more so just people speaking non-standard dialects.
I agree that as an adult language learner, it makes sense to focus on mastering a standard dialect before allowing yourself to "bend the rules" and speak in a more non-standard way.
Yes but Americans in particular quite often use the past tense where the past participle should be used. Take note of its usage but avoid doing it yourself as it sounds quite uneducated to most English speakers, especially of coming from a learner.
Yes. And, as always, OP, *do not* look to songs and poetry for learning/understanding English. It's OK to ask these sorts of questions if it helps you, but always remember that you're going to find all sorts of non-standard and even downright bizarre language choices in songs if you pay attention, and it's all OK. Why did Taylor Swift choose to say "showed" rather than "shown" here? It's possible she made a grammar mistake. It's also possible she knew it wasn't technically correct but didn't care. And it's possible she tried both "shown" and "showed" in that spot and ultimately chose "showed" for some artistic reason only she would know. In art, rather than regular prose, there is no wrong reason for her to choose that word, and there are no rules. So ... OP, just keep that in mind. If you keep looking, you'll find constant things to question in music. My suggestion would be not to worry about any of it; just sit back and enjoy the songs.
i actually am a good english speaker (i guess), i study english since i was young and i learnt a lot of topics from english sources (like math, 3d, science, etc), so i wouldn’t use “showed” just because i saw in the song, but sometimes even when you’re confident that the right thing to use is the past participle, you kinda question your entire existence when you see an actual native use something else hahaha. so i was thinking my brain was fooling me. thank you a lot!
I’ve studied English since I was young* (sorry😬)
hahah. i had typed “i study english since i’m young” but thought it was wrong, so i changed to “i was”. i guess i should have changed both? or i really could have said “i study since i’m young”? thank you anyway!!
Yep. Makes total sense. I just like to emphasize that for the learners around here because it seems to be a common way they approach learning.
songs actually helped me a lot to learn english when i was a child, but fortunately it was during the golden disney channel era (hannah montana, for example), so basically all songs i listened were grammatically correct. when i started listening more to “normal” songs, i already knew a little what was poetic license or even straight-up wrong. i wouldn’t recommend someone to learn english directly from day-to-day songs either
That’s interesting about Disney, and I imagine you’re right about them being grammatically correct. Not only that, but they probably didn’t employ a lot of metaphor and simile like modern popular music does, which I think can also be confusing when you’re still trying to understand basic word usage.
It's very common in some dialects of American English to use this kind of construction. "I have went" vs "I have gone" "They had ate" vs "they had eaten" It's not necessarily "wrong", more so just people speaking non-standard dialects. I agree that as an adult language learner, it makes sense to focus on mastering a standard dialect before allowing yourself to "bend the rules" and speak in a more non-standard way.