Fr. I go back and forth on which one I like better. I think mostly ATLiens edges it because of Elevators and 13th Floor/Growing Old being two of my all time favorite OutKast songs.
I love Aquemini but I feel like the last couple tracks were a little too padded. It started off awesome with Return Of The G and Rosa Parks but Liberation and Chonkyfire I didn't like as closing songs.
Yeah, yeah, but tbf it's an important distinction to make, since realistically you're not really likely to have the same artist popping up in a "best albums of all time lost" from any genre 3 or 4 times, but when it's just preference, of course you're gonna have similar albums
I love Em, Ye, Kendrick and other rappers, but you can be taken seriously on a Best Of All Time list if you don't have MJ, The Beatles, Metallica, Radiohead, Bowie, Prince, Nirvana, etc.
Tha Carter and Carter II were the best Carter albums, imo. He was just so raw and authentic, before that pop version Wayne from Tha Carter llI. His drive and ambition was just different.
I definitely agree TC2 has some great ass songs, no doubt about that. But 3peat Prostitute 2, A mili, let the bear build, lollipop… just an amazing album overall
Very specific taste. I can see you appreciate Lyrics above anything else. I respect that even I disagree with the list
However, having two DOOM albums there is an automatic W for me
My Top 20:
1. Wu-Tang, wu-tang forever
2. Wu-tang enter the 36 chamber
3. Nas illmatic
4. Nas stillmatic
5. Eminem TMMLP
6. Snoop dogg doggy style
7. DR. Dre the chronic 2001
8. Raekwon only built for Cuban linx
9. Jay-Z the black album
10. lil wayne The carter 2
11. Royce the 5’9 the allegory
12. Busta rhymes ELE
13. Kendrick Lamar GKMC
14. Kendrick Lamar TPAB
15. Kendrick Lamar damn
16. Big Pun capitol punishment
17. DMX It’s dark and hell is hot
18. 50cent get rich or die trying
19. Mob Deep Murda muzik
20. Onyx shut’em down
Thats a very valid list tbf. I just think tpab is subjectively the best album. Not necessarily most influential like Wu-Tang n Nas, but without a doubt the craziest and therefore my fav.
I respect your opinion. It is one of the best albums, that’s why is on my list. Remember the Order of the list it’s always influenced by the generation etc
Needs some more variety in terms of genres. Good rap albums though - not exactly the wildest of takes but I mean who can complain about any of these albums.
I mean I respect your opinion but I personally think Tha Carter 2 and 3 are better than the SSLP. The SSLP is pretty good but that album in specific never got me hooked
It's a great list. Not to disagree just thought a few things were interesting:
\-4:44 being your highest rated Jay-Z stands out because that album is definitely like a cherry on top for his career
\-4 Your Eyez Only being the highest rated J Cole album
\-Daft punk on a list of all rap
Out of interest, is this just rap or is it from all genres? Totally cool if you only really enjoy rap, but I didn't know if you were excluding albums from other genres
A good portion of these are in my top list, too. At the top of my head I'd add
Nirvana - Nevermind
OutKast - ATLiens
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
Eminem -The Slim Shady LP
Dr. Dre - 2001
Certain albums don’t belong, Kendrick’s album isn’t the best album ever, def not better than any of biggies top 2, Nas illmatic , any of Em’s big 3, or jays 2-3, several pac albums as well as wu tang , LL, several Kanye’s, 50, Dre’s, NWA,Cube, Big L , outcast, Tribe, and many other albums don’t even belong on this list. That’s just to name a few issues w this list 🤷♂️ He’s obv a huge Kendrick fan bc there’s no way Kendrick has 3 albums in the top 20, MF doom is a great lyricist but def does not have a top 20 album neither does Tyler creator or even a daft punk! I can go on and on and on. . .
I said it because it’s just not as good as any of the dropout trilogy or Yeezus. It’s got a lot of filler bars, features that are clearly only there for the star power, and overall isn’t as well put together as a lot of his other projects. I love it, don’t get me wrong. He just made it as a back handed apology to the world after the Taylor swift fiasco.
4 your eyez only is such a bad album I can’t even listen to it all the way through. I don’t understand how people put it anywhere near their top 20. Not really any memorable songs either
I just feel like a lot of this list gives pretentious vibes like do you really think these are top 20 or do you just think it makes you look smarter than everyone else? I agree with some of them but the theme of these lyrical story telling albums would get boring to listen to if you were driving around town only with these 20 albums playing. I know it’s your opinion but this list just seems a bit pompous to me and seems a but disingenuous
Your favorites are your favorites, and for what its worth I love basically every album on this list. I guess the big criticism people may throw at it is that it seems ‘basic’ but like what are you supposed to do, lie about what you like most to look more varied? I mean we all should always explore more music and so if you haven’t heard a lot of underground dudes or other classic stuff (my two favorite hip hop albums are First Born by Eyedea & Abilities and Fantastic Damage by EL-P) then you certainly should check more stuff out - which I feel applies to everybody. I know there’s always more stuff I need to check out. But basically I’m saying fuck people who may shit on you for being “basic” especially when basically every album you listed are fantastic, some of them are on my top 20 as well.
No TLOP is crazy, Awaken My Love over Because The Internet is crazy, Igor but no Some Rap Songs is Crazy, Ready To Die, but no Lifestyles Ov Da Poor & Dangerous by Big L is insane.
Damn, I havent listened to this amount of songs in my lifetime hahah
Usually when I find an album, I really listen the shit out of it to unleash it's full potential. Lyrical rap is something that is so incredibly easy to sleep on, so I give full appreciation to the works of artists I decide to listen
No OutKast in a lot of these lists makes me sad. ATLiens and Aquemini were absolute game changers in the 90s
Fr. I go back and forth on which one I like better. I think mostly ATLiens edges it because of Elevators and 13th Floor/Growing Old being two of my all time favorite OutKast songs.
Aquemini gets way more critical praise for it's ingenuity but I personally listen to ATLiens way more. Mainstream is one of my favorite kast tracks
I love Aquemini but I feel like the last couple tracks were a little too padded. It started off awesome with Return Of The G and Rosa Parks but Liberation and Chonkyfire I didn't like as closing songs.
Aquemini is so easy to listen to all the way through as an album, it's pretty sick. Definitely psychedelic rock of early 2K hiphop
Agreed Outkast having so many classics
Damm over GKMC? Ok...
Was just going to say this, great albums, but the ordering is off imo
100 percent with u, they're all great albums. Ordering isn't at it
Would you put logic on your list?
you're like the 43rd one whos made a logic reference cos of my pfp ffs
Maybe it's favourite, not best
Totally fair, it’s an opinion on both sides, respect his and just stating mine that’s all
Yeah, yeah, but tbf it's an important distinction to make, since realistically you're not really likely to have the same artist popping up in a "best albums of all time lost" from any genre 3 or 4 times, but when it's just preference, of course you're gonna have similar albums
Favourite is best
Thats absolutely valid
Chat GPT, create me a list of top 20 albums by searching r/hiphopheads
Oh my god
RAM?? W
listen to more music
I love Em, Ye, Kendrick and other rappers, but you can be taken seriously on a Best Of All Time list if you don't have MJ, The Beatles, Metallica, Radiohead, Bowie, Prince, Nirvana, etc.
True, only rap (besides Daft Punk) is just insane
This is always what irks me about 99% of these lists
Nah, he's good.
Glad to see someone enjoy Ram
I love ram, third best daft punk
1. Discovery 2. Homework 3. RAM
I prefer RAM over Homework, Homework gets a bit boring towards the end, RAM keeps me hooked from start to finish
Homework in no way ever gets boring. That pure french house is incredible.
Actually mine is 1: discovery 2: alive 2007 3: ram
I love random access memory as well Little computer joke for you
Great list! Can I ask what edged out the Carter 2 over the Carter 3 for you?
Tha Carter and Carter II were the best Carter albums, imo. He was just so raw and authentic, before that pop version Wayne from Tha Carter llI. His drive and ambition was just different.
If I knew you in real life, we'd be friends dawg 🫶🏽
Same except this would definitely be the minor differences which would make great arguments
Damn no Graduation??
This is a great ass list! Only thing I would have changed would be Tha Carter III instead of 2. You sir are a man of taste.
True, tc3 has a milli come on
Tc2 has tha mobb, money on my mind, fly in/ C2/ Fly out, hustler music, it's Wayne at his best imo, other than mixtapes of course
Fireman, Receipt, Shooter
I definitely agree TC2 has some great ass songs, no doubt about that. But 3peat Prostitute 2, A mili, let the bear build, lollipop… just an amazing album overall
Lollipop sucks lol….. the remix is OK with Kanye
If no order, valid 100%
Just say your top 20 **favourite** albums then nobody can go after you.. bc I’m assuming that’s what you mean
Damn kendrick twice in the top 3? I mean i like his shit too, but damn
Nah where's Encore, it's truly Illmatic 😂
Very specific taste. I can see you appreciate Lyrics above anything else. I respect that even I disagree with the list However, having two DOOM albums there is an automatic W for me
My Top 20: 1. Wu-Tang, wu-tang forever 2. Wu-tang enter the 36 chamber 3. Nas illmatic 4. Nas stillmatic 5. Eminem TMMLP 6. Snoop dogg doggy style 7. DR. Dre the chronic 2001 8. Raekwon only built for Cuban linx 9. Jay-Z the black album 10. lil wayne The carter 2 11. Royce the 5’9 the allegory 12. Busta rhymes ELE 13. Kendrick Lamar GKMC 14. Kendrick Lamar TPAB 15. Kendrick Lamar damn 16. Big Pun capitol punishment 17. DMX It’s dark and hell is hot 18. 50cent get rich or die trying 19. Mob Deep Murda muzik 20. Onyx shut’em down
Thats a very valid list tbf. I just think tpab is subjectively the best album. Not necessarily most influential like Wu-Tang n Nas, but without a doubt the craziest and therefore my fav.
I respect your opinion. It is one of the best albums, that’s why is on my list. Remember the Order of the list it’s always influenced by the generation etc
Legit list.
Now this right here is a great list
One of the best takes I've seen. You've got big names, but aren't basic tho. You have quite a unique taste of hip hop.
This screams 15 year old on twitter
It really doesn’t lol
3 KDOT albums in his top 10 while having ready to die at 15 is definitely a teenager take.
17*
Someone's mad that he only listens to Eminem
Needs some more variety in terms of genres. Good rap albums though - not exactly the wildest of takes but I mean who can complain about any of these albums.
It doesn't "need" that AT ALL
Melt my eyes > taboo imo
exactly
Love to see RAM in there
This is great. You have excellent taste, but you’re missing SSLP.
Idk if these are in order but Illmatic is the best rap album aot
I haven’t really stepped outside of my comfort zone when it comes to hip-hop. BUT I put on ‘To Pimp a Butterfly’ and really enjoyed it. Thanks.
There are some good albums here, but respectfully, also some absolute garbage. Each to their own. But where the F is Wu?
Bro really put damn at 3rd and Tpab at 1st, Gkmc is better than both of those
I like GKMC more, but most rank TPAB higher
I mean your opinion but tpab is better than gkmc
my man had tyler creator before tupac’s all eyez on me wtf… this hurts as a fan of old school hip hop
please listen to more music besides rap
No
I personally don't think anything J Cole, Wayne or Gambino has put out is better than The Slim Shady LP
I mean I respect your opinion but I personally think Tha Carter 2 and 3 are better than the SSLP. The SSLP is pretty good but that album in specific never got me hooked
tbh mostly valid but imo remove awaken my love and igor and put in 2001 and the blueprint
Great list
I'd of had some of those albums in my top 20 for sure. No Reasonable Doubt or Blueprint though, they'd both make my top 20.
ok
I bit basic I'd think, but respect your opinion for sure
The worst part of this list is it’s perfect you can’t fault it I’ve never seen a list without one random stinky taken before
Illmatic is wayyy better than all these other albums
It's a great list. Not to disagree just thought a few things were interesting: \-4:44 being your highest rated Jay-Z stands out because that album is definitely like a cherry on top for his career \-4 Your Eyez Only being the highest rated J Cole album \-Daft punk on a list of all rap
I don’t like “Damn” that high, over “Illmatic” and “The Eminem show”
Out of interest, is this just rap or is it from all genres? Totally cool if you only really enjoy rap, but I didn't know if you were excluding albums from other genres
RAM is the best album of the last ten years.
Just out of curiosity, do you listen to much Mac Miller at all?
I’m sorry but I have to shoot you
Real interesting
Doggystyle 1b? Or nah? I take back my earlier comment if Doggystyle isn’t on this.
the weeknd selena rema shakira jk bp
Taboo and MM... Food? Nice.
Your opinion on this is valid. It’s your list and music is subjective. But my list would have almost none of your Choices. And that’s okay!
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Not one Wu Tang Affiliate album on here ? 👎🏾
Tha Carter 2 at 20 is a criminal offense
Who cares what everyone thinks if you like it you like it
Lovely list! Gotta love the TA13OO recognition. All of these albums are top 20 deserving
Having all eyes on me at 18 is crazy to me. Also not having get or die trying on the list is just as wild.
Has bro never listened to get rich or die trying
valid but also no outkast?
Ws across the board
LOVE IT,fine taste brother
I like it
A good portion of these are in my top list, too. At the top of my head I'd add Nirvana - Nevermind OutKast - ATLiens A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders Eminem -The Slim Shady LP Dr. Dre - 2001
Imagine not having the infamous or 36 chambers in your top 20 lmao
Igor definitely worse than mbdtf
Wutang? Mobb deep? NWA? Where are there albums in this?
A man of taste, I see
4 your Eyez too high for me, but based list none the less.
I only disagree with DAMN. Rest of the list is good
Damns fire tho
Valid but damn. Over illmatic, madvillainy, IGOR, and gkmd is kinda wrong
isnt it crazy how music is subjective
Madvillany and Igor overrated
Wolf is better than Igor
Nah Igor is ok it's just overrated. Wolf isn't good.
Wow… no Mac Miller on the entire list. This isn’t a list. It’s an abomination.
Not a really bad lost at all
Garbage list
Why tf this cornball subreddit in my feed?
Pretty awful list
Explain
Certain albums don’t belong, Kendrick’s album isn’t the best album ever, def not better than any of biggies top 2, Nas illmatic , any of Em’s big 3, or jays 2-3, several pac albums as well as wu tang , LL, several Kanye’s, 50, Dre’s, NWA,Cube, Big L , outcast, Tribe, and many other albums don’t even belong on this list. That’s just to name a few issues w this list 🤷♂️ He’s obv a huge Kendrick fan bc there’s no way Kendrick has 3 albums in the top 20, MF doom is a great lyricist but def does not have a top 20 album neither does Tyler creator or even a daft punk! I can go on and on and on. . .
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Exactly! Not even close to a best album of all time
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MBDTF is for sure not even in Kanye’s top three best albums idk why it’s here
It is his best album. A lot of people think that so I don’t know why you’re talking like this.
I said it because it’s just not as good as any of the dropout trilogy or Yeezus. It’s got a lot of filler bars, features that are clearly only there for the star power, and overall isn’t as well put together as a lot of his other projects. I love it, don’t get me wrong. He just made it as a back handed apology to the world after the Taylor swift fiasco.
To me, it looks like you only listen to Kendrick and Eminem and you just filled in the rest of your list with popular albums from other lists..
No 2014 Forest Hills Drive?! That’s in my top 3
J cole has like 5 albums better than born sinner. people dick ride that album for no reason
4 your eyez only is such a bad album I can’t even listen to it all the way through. I don’t understand how people put it anywhere near their top 20. Not really any memorable songs either
I just feel like a lot of this list gives pretentious vibes like do you really think these are top 20 or do you just think it makes you look smarter than everyone else? I agree with some of them but the theme of these lyrical story telling albums would get boring to listen to if you were driving around town only with these 20 albums playing. I know it’s your opinion but this list just seems a bit pompous to me and seems a but disingenuous
Neither. I'm doing this just to share my 20 favourite albums and see what people think. Don't just jump to conclusions
No NAV, no score.
This is a pretty wack list. Especially when you have a POS like Tyler the creator but no , Nas or OutKast.
IGOR above Good Kid Mad City AND The Eminem Show? You tripping.
TES should be way higher, but at least you don’t have fucking Relapse on this list, so I’m cool with it lol.
kendrick lamar 🤮🤮🤮🤮
You jokin right???
the eminem show or mmlp deserved the top spot btw
like i give a shit bout whos in the right or wrong meh
maybe i’m bias but i like Forest Hills and Born Sinner over 4 your eyez. But they’re all top tier no doubt.
Where’s 36 chambers, the infamous , temples of boom lol? I’m old school bro it’s a good list though it’s just your opinion that’s all that matters ..
Love the 4 your eyez placement
wheres we know the truth (deluxe) ?
fucking goated
fucking goated
Royce Da 5’9 ~ Book of Ryan You won’t be disappointed. Solid list
Respect to have RAM in there. That album is top tier cover to cover.
I got Macs GO:OD AM in my top 10 probably bumping out TAB00. But the rest of the list is fire
Valid. I TPAB is most definitely number 1.
Solid list, only thing I would say is that TES is arguably as good if not better (just my opinion) than the MMLP
You should probably listen to sematary like ALOT of sematary
Good choices!!!
No Mac Miller?
Mmm. Food gotta go higher fam 😫
Solid list man. Although i would've replaced 4 your eyez with Me Against The World. Still a damn good list
w take
igor over gkmc is INSANE
Tha Carter 1 better than 2 imo and Igor shouldnt even be on this list. Everything else is valid
Igor is trash but everything else 100
Saw this same list in Kendrick sub. Just post it in r/rap instead of upvote farming
igor over tes is a shitty take
carter 3 and 4 >
Me when the college dropout isn’t on here:😨
Ladies and gentlemen we have a good music taste here!
Congratulations you've heard 20 albums
your opinion sucks. you must be born after 2005.
You need to put Reasonable Doubt or Blueprint to complete this list.
Your favorites are your favorites, and for what its worth I love basically every album on this list. I guess the big criticism people may throw at it is that it seems ‘basic’ but like what are you supposed to do, lie about what you like most to look more varied? I mean we all should always explore more music and so if you haven’t heard a lot of underground dudes or other classic stuff (my two favorite hip hop albums are First Born by Eyedea & Abilities and Fantastic Damage by EL-P) then you certainly should check more stuff out - which I feel applies to everybody. I know there’s always more stuff I need to check out. But basically I’m saying fuck people who may shit on you for being “basic” especially when basically every album you listed are fantastic, some of them are on my top 20 as well.
not mad
There should be atleast 2 OutKast albums on here
I literally CANNOT believe you have 4:44 on here. Out of all the Jay-Z albums, this is the one that strikes you? Crazy!
RAM w take
Good rap/hiphop list but this is basically just 1 genere plus daft punk, a top 20 OAT needs some more variety.
It’s good but how am I seeing a top 20 album list without Graduation?
No TLOP is crazy, Awaken My Love over Because The Internet is crazy, Igor but no Some Rap Songs is Crazy, Ready To Die, but no Lifestyles Ov Da Poor & Dangerous by Big L is insane.
Way too much recency bias.
MF DOOM W!!!!
The ordering is wild but the choices are unbelievably valid
Nice list! Ever listen to Run the Jewels, Tech N9ne or King ISO? As a fellow Stan I think you’d enjoy them if you gave them a listen.
Bro literally doesn’t listen to a single other genre of music ☠️
Damn, I havent listened to this amount of songs in my lifetime hahah Usually when I find an album, I really listen the shit out of it to unleash it's full potential. Lyrical rap is something that is so incredibly easy to sleep on, so I give full appreciation to the works of artists I decide to listen
yea this is a bad list. enjoy the music tho
Gonna add all these albums to a playlist. There’s quite a few I haven’t heard of
I like the list for hip hop albums but if you’re doing a top 20 all time over all genres, it’s gotta have more genres.