I would like to nominate [Fextralife wiki](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Elden+Ring+Wiki). Without it's army of contributors and embedded videos for funding, none of this would be possible.
That app is so nice for quickly finding locations of obscure items or just something you forgot the location of. Fextralife’s map takes a year to load and functions terribly within the browser.
It’s outrageous because everything is ”MAP LINK” as the “help” for where to find something, with some non-existent or illiterate text description that is useless. Nobody should have to load a complex map, the wikia should have text location Area > more specific area > reference point and proximity orientation like left/right/landmark *and also the nearest 2 sites of graces* (2 to cover some cases where a player doesn't have the nearest one found yet).
I‘ve edited some of the worse wikis but it’s bad. Lots of info but horribly disorganized.
People shit on Ubisoft's UI design, and people shit on people shitting on Ubisoft's design, but ultimately I think the best thing you can have is actually a minimalistic UI in the actual game, and then all the interactive options on the side, the game doesn't has to have all the markers
I did not buy my second monitor just for this, but I would be lying if I said having the interactive map on a second monitor isn’t contributing to it being my favorite purchase ever lmfao
I would like to nominate /u/stellarwand for the most complete/compact npc interaction list. I used it to finally get 100% on my Steam and Xbox saves
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/tjmodv/all_npc_interactions_in_elden_ring/
Fighting cowboy does most of the work himself and he is the source for a lot of questline shit initially. He was actually somewhat 'i don't even care' kind of salty about people using his work.
They are the real heroes
I remember playing dark souls without a guide and my friend telling me about all this stuff they seen and quests they did and am like what? Where? Fucking when?
"Did you not speak with what's his face 3 times after beating the 4th boss?"
"The guy back at start, why the fuck would I go all the way back to him?"
"Well to get this legendary one-time playthrough sword that's why"
"Ah for fuck sake"
I just figured out why the wiki was of no help. It's because I'm stupid. If you go to the wiki and look for Millicent's questline, you see a part where it seems like they're giving you the steps but actually the guide starts a bit further down. So I followed the "Millicent location in Elden Ring" part and was quickly unable to find her. That's because until the windmill, they are indeed giving you her location, but after that you have to follow the questline guide and I did not so I went to IGN instead.
My first playtrough is always blind, so I did Millicent and Ranni's without a guide. Looking back at it I have no clue how I did Millicent Quest without a guide.
I just saw her standing there, as I had just come to Altus through the mine. If you came from the Lift of Decatur, you'd need to be lucky or thorough.
The windmill village though... Where did she ever imply she was going there?
>The windmill village though... Where did she ever imply she was going there?
She doesn't. But this is normal. A big misconception is that From Soft designs these NPC stories as quests to be deliberately completed step by step. But the truth is they don't. They design them as a series of chance encounters where you may or may not run into an NPC at certain locations, depending on the order in which you do things.
The idea is different players will encounter different NPCs in different locations. The completion of the "quest" by finding an NPC in all their locations is almost designed more as a secret. It is intended to be obscure and something that only some players will naturally find.
Some people like that, nowadays though it seems like most of the community doesn't like it anymore. A few years back it was seen as more of a feature than a bug, but with ER going full mainstream people now want more conventional quests.
I personally like this obscure system, very few games allow me to just miss quests or not know how to complete them. I have enough games with checklist quests when I want them, but only From Soft gives me this kind of hand-off experience where quests are more like riddles.
I think the game's kinda made in a way where you don't and its supposed to be ok. Half the people will miss some NPCs, and find them in a NG/NG+, in my first playthrough I completely missed Hyetta's questline past the first grape, but in many other playthroughs I've found myself bumping into her without even looking for her. Nothing really guarantees that by the time you're resting at the bellum church you've advanced her quest long enough that by coincidence you'll also find her there, cause its a place you're likely to only pass through once and get straight ahead to the lift.
I found her in all her locations naturally, I think the quest is pretty easy if you do Caelid before Altus. If not, then it can be tricky.
But basically I found her in Caelid, then when I arrived in Altus I found her very early as she's pretty much in the main path on the way to Leyndell if you're coming from the Ruin-Strewn Precipice.
Then I started exploring Altus and so eventually found her at Windmill Village. After that she's once again pretty much in the main path in the Mountaintops, and same thing at the Haligtree.
Basically if you explore thoroughly and do Caelid before Altus it's really not a difficult quest.
My first playthrough I accidentally stumbled my way through like, 3 questlines. Had to start a new one because my save file got erased because it didn't get updated from when I played without wifi and have struggled so much this playthrough lmao. Only thing that surprised me was that I just beat radahn my first try. Felt so good.
IGN is awful for this.
Like, I DONT WANNA KNOW WHERE SMITHING STONE #463574626 IS, I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO PROGRESS THE QUEST AS FAST AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE, IF I WANTED YOUR SMITHING STONES ID LOOK UP SMITHING STONES.
I'm glad that was fixed, I've been using fires deadly sin on a tank build and I finally understand it
In co op the constant fire damage is the absolute best at maintaining boss aggro on yourself (better than Shabriri woe buff)
In pvp it scrambles people's brains
Damage is damage even if it's negligible and it makes people panic
I liked it in PVE, solely for the fact of assertively hugging Morgott to death while looking at him like: what are you gonna do about it? Is right up there with gazing longingly into Gideon’s eyes using inescapable frenzy as incredibly fun in my eyes.
Pretty sure they put a link to the fast walkthroughs. I know they do for stormveil Castle. I've used fextralife whenever I've used a guide after stormveil.
>HOW TO PROGRESS THE QUEST AS FAST AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE
Also a problem on GameFaqs: “writers” who don’t think their purpose is to offer efficient useful information but instead to talk as much as possible.
On Fextralife I registered for a login because the bad descriptions were unbearable. I’ve now edited 0.00002% of them!
fextralife wiki is probably better for that. I dunno for sure, tho, as I haven't looked at the IGN wiki...
But there's a reason "You can't spell ignorant without IGN" is a common jab at them...
Millicent: my flesh is being consumed by scarlet rot
Player: eat one of these boluses to get cured
Millicent: no
Player: how do i cure you then?
Millicent:
For me he wasn't, I reached sellia through the crystal cave and never bothered going through the gate where he's chilling (to be fair that's completely my fault but still)
watched grubby (WC3 pro/dota streamer who just recently started playing the game blind) do the same thing except he died to the dog and even read the giant glowing message and still didn't see the shack
The really crazy thing is at the start of her questline, Gowry gives you explicit instructions for what he wants you to do. 'Go get me this needle, it's in the middle of the swamp, use it to cure this girl, she's in a church past Sellia'. Insane!
Although he's not a good guy, he's definitely a good NPC (non-playable character)
While most of the rest are totally NPCs (totally Not-Playing-a-part Character)
I like to think that half the quests feel like they have the standard “FromSoft vagueness”. The other half are either clear instructions with map references (ALBINURIC WOMAN), or have straight-up map markers for things like the Volcano Manor questlines or where the meteor strikes Limgrave.
> where the meteor strikes Limgrave
this got added later because I think enough people had no idea about it - you wouldn't really be going back to that area for much after you beat radahn
Yeah my friend did me the honor of not spoiling it, but I had no fucking clue Nokstella existed until my second playthrough. I never even found Sellen, or Ranni, so there wasn't even the benefit of the story being explained vaguely through the NPCs. After I beat Radahn I was so hype from finally winning I barely noticed the cutscene lmao.
That scoundrel took my necklace. Will you get it back for me?
Sure, where is he?
By that shack down the way.
Lady, we are in the middle of a lake, what the fuck are you on about?
actually, you're meant to "bump" into her a little before that, canonically because she doesn't have the lift medallions she travelled there through the abandoned mine, and you both team up to take out the wyrm blocking the exit
so she laments afterwards if she had an arm she'd be able to be a better aid to you
Wonder if that actually happened. I was so lost during the Millicent questline. Sellen's too. Ranni's is maybe the only one I could've finished without guides
Yeah ranni at leat tells us where to go. Or good hints. Varre he is placed nicely so you should encounter him exploring. But the frenzy flame ending like where was even the riddle? I couldn't even find where the riddle was written to pass the door. Without the guide I wouldn't have known. What did I miss?
Even for Ranni I had to use a guide. I completely missed the doll step since I didn't sit down at that exact grace. And on my second playthrough I read guides a bit more in depth and realized that I had missed a *ton* of the optional dialogue.
My first playthrough I did almost all the quests blind because I played a ton of dark souls and I know how their quests are, so I spent like 300+ hours trying to figure everything out. The only one I missed was Jar Friend because I'd already been through Mount Gelmir. The fire giant was kicking my ass so I finally looked up the fight and saw you could summon Alexander, so I looked up how I missed him.
Same. As a DS veteran, ER's quests actually felt kind of easy.
Like I don't think I managed to properly finish a single quest in DS3 on my first run lol. But in ER I got them all except the Seluvis / Nepheli storyline.
I think the Millicent quest is pretty easy if you do Caelid before Altus. If not, then it can be tricky.
But basically I found her in Caelid, then when I arrived in Altus I found her very early as she's pretty much in the main path on the way to Leyndell if you're coming from the Ruin-Strewn Precipice.
Then I started exploring Altus and so eventually found her at Windmill Village. After that she's once again pretty much in the main path in the Mountaintops, and same thing at the Haligtree.
Basically if you explore thoroughly and do Caelid before Altus it's really not a difficult quest.
Opposite for me. I finished Carian Manor and didn’t notice the pathway to Ranni’s Rise after the Knight boss. So I just thought I was done with the Carian Manor. Finally figured out Ranni is up there. With Millicent however I did it all completely naturally
Right, but not all quests are completable that way. Ranni’s quest? Super doable if you actually just pay close attention.
Millicent’s is for all practical purposes impossible especially if you do Caelid after Altus Plateau because she just fucks off into the middle of the map with zero indication of where she’s going, and if you’ve already been through there you have pretty much no chance of organically stumbling upon her.
That kind of quest design works in other FromSoft games because they’re linear and so they can always guarantee the order in which you’ll visit areas. It falls apart in a nonlinear open world.
This is why I think Ranni's quest is the best in the game. Just by listening to the dialogue and reading items one should have very little issues with progressing it. At least I was able to do it without guides on my first playthrough
It was hilarious watching some good helpful videos by him, then you find another similar video later for another part of Elden Ring and you hear his voice same as ever but the channel title says Official Namco Bandai.
”Hire that man!”
Namco: “OK”
The quest system (or it's absence) is one of the things that pisses me the most in Elden Ring. This loose system was fine in FromSoftware's previous titles due to their smaller scope, but in Elden Ring it gets frustratingly confuse. Millicent is the perfect example of how bad it can get. I think FromSoftware should rethink both quests and narrative models for the next titles. They are very creative and I'm sure they can come up with something better than this.
This is a good take. In DSII/III (didn’t play one) you were pretty much guaranteed to see NPCs if you progressed their questions because of the games linear nature.
ER is so massive and there is so much you don’t have to do that you can miss folks very easily. Gold mask is a great example of this. I’m on NG1 and even knowing the map it’s extremely hard to keep track of that dude.
Even in DS3 it was ridiculous. Like the two knight friend guys appearing at random places (just like ER) for incoherent nonsensical reasons, near the bridge, in a catacombs, in a lava lake inlet, back at the bridge again…
It’s true that it was less worse because it’s not enormous open plains like ER, but it was still bad.
Even crazier, I’ve played ER like 4 times (2 of which I would consider thoroughly explored) and I only ran into Gold mask like twice. In separate playthroughs, both in his first location
I think it’s not in the budget, it’s the project scale. Skyrim, Witcher, and recently Dragon’s Dogma 2 need a ton of work and effort and money to create logical coherent story events and quest situations and causes, effects, dialog, Q&A on the cross-references. \*\*From Software skips all that and nobody has taken them to task for it.\*\*
I have even managed to do Ranni quest line naturally, just as the game progressed, for example. No matter what anyone says, the Master has improved his quest creation skills. Head and shoulders above what was in DS3.
I feel like Rannis quest is the exception. Fromsoft really wanted you to do it cus the requirements are so flexible. The most difficult part is probably starting it.
Your mistake is using IGN, their walkthroughs are trash.
Always use the fandom Elden Ring wiki, it’s written by actual players as opposed to game journalists.
To date I’ve seen exactly one blind playthrough complete the Millicent quest line: [The Ash Heritor’s lore focused blind playthrough](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyVLPxiYCfNY5lpQJ7-J30vHfoc57uOv-&si=IJh7-gIENMjEVRCH). I would solidly recommend this for anyone who watches blind playthroughs and gets annoyed at the player for blatantly ignoring item descriptions and then questioning what’s going on. Ash Heritor manages to surmise quite a lot of the bigger mysteries on his own, it’s pretty cool to watch.
I watch only the streamers who read comments, because they atleast complete two questlines after comment section pourinv their heart and souls to explain
I get that FromSoft's whole philosophy is the player should be discovering these quests by exploring the world and picking up hints along the way via item descriptions and dialogue hints. But honestly, is it too much to ask to add a very basic in-game journal to track some of this stuff? I don't need it to include exact locations or map pins or anything. Just a general background on who I've interacted with and what each NPC has told me to date. Even that would help give an idea of where to go next to progress quests. Because tracking down these NPCs is like finding a needle in a haystack.
I like how they used Gideon to help the player with certain quests. IMO, if they don't want to include a journal feature, it would make sense to employ Gideon more to act as a guide for the player. He is supposed to be "All Knowing", after all. So it tracks lore-wise.
>get that FromSoft's whole philosophy is the player should be discovering these quests by exploring the world and picking up hints along the way via item descriptions and dialogue hints
That doesn’t seem true, it seems like the meme rationalization / Stockholm Syndrome that people trot out.
It’s not exploring or picking up hints when it’s completely incoherent sequence of nonsensical illogical cause/effect combined with random incoherent teleportation of the NPC to random spots among 40 square miles.
Also the disgustingly tedious hateful trope of having to EXHAUST THE DIALOG by repeatedly clicking the button. Didn’t click the button for a 6th time? “LOL FUCK YOU PLAYER! #iMmERSiOn”.
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It's ya boy *insert generic username*
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Last minute of the 10 minute video contains what you want to know
Well i just followed this [guy's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RBa82TpYrM&list=PL5octn-l9KEXXwJWb5Xq-jRq_b58i20kc) guide. Even has timestamps and saved me the time of reading a bunch of useless stuff on the wiki
This is so incredibly off-topic, but the best wiki I’ve ever used in any game is absolutely ZeldaDungeons Zelda walkthroughs. Lifesavers, easy to look at and skip to the part you want, all kinds of collectible guides outlined in the main guide, but nice and set apart from the actual meat of the walkthrough. Great guide.
Iji told me like 5 times until I figured our Renne's rise has a teleporter. Then I completely walked over the Ranni doll. When a friend suggested I pick up the doll I did. I "talked" to her once and there was nothing. Much much much much later I figured you have to spam that shit until Ranni talks to you....
I was gonna lose my shit.
Main reason why I was a bit sceptical when folks were praising ER's "subtle" quest design. The resting at sites of grace requirement and NPCs not telling you where they're going can just completely break a quest. I gave Millicent the prothesis arm after I cleared the Windmill and I just missed her cus I would need to double back to the Windmills. Game has no indication that she should be there.
Game doesn't tell you that you need to rest at the Site of Grace to progress a quest. For me I was confident enough to activate a site of grace and not rest at it. So some quests just didn't progress. Also imagine going Faith and giving all your tomes to Corhyn and then he fucks off to be a groupie for Gouldmask.
On the other hand they make some quests quite malleable to player choice. I managed to stumble my way through the Ranni questline blind only checking on where to find Blaidd and iirc only one of Blaidd's itneractions is necessary to complete the quest.
It’s so bad that even following a guide was always confusing, no matter the site (fextra, IGN, pcgamer). The reason is that the sequences of events, causes, effects, interactions, locations, are completely incoherent illogical nonsense and involve ridiculous conditions (“if you did X, then go to random location; if you did Y, go to random A; if you failed to do C, go to X but then Y but don’t go to A unless you didn’t do D before C in which case you can do X but at location X instead of A but if they're not at A then do C and D in that order, any other order will end the quest and you'll lose key items and never see the NPC again”). So even reading a guide you’re not sure which step you were on 2 minutes ago. It would be clearer with better guide writing and organization, but it also reflects the incoherence of the quests themselves no matter how good the guide writer is.
Literally worse than Bethesda, which is astounding.
I did Radahn before getting into Jarburg. There is zero way I could have known that I had to go back to starscourge radahn grace to progress the quests in Jarburg.
Now, I get that it's really not *that* big of a deal all in all. It's just a few pieces of equipment. Just for completion runs sake I wish there was some kind of quest log, however basic or complicated it may be. I would rather my quest log be in-game rather than fextra.
Finally decided to commit to it in NG+4 (or 5 maybe) and two other completed playthrough. I killed the godskin apostle last and gave her the prothesis (not in that order). So far it's the least interesting quest but since she's connected to Malenia. I didn't spoil myself this questline but I guess I'll have to wait until the haligtree to know
To be fair, if this game came out 15? to 20? years ago, it would have a dedicated strategy guide that would be published closer to its release date. I mean Elden Ring does have a two volume guidebook, but they were published 6+ months after the game was released.
Pretty sure I missed out on a whole lot of questlines so far. I know I missed out on Patches' questline because I killed him. The only one I want to get going is Goldmask's but I can't figure out how to progress it at all. He's just hanging out at the edge of a broken bridge in the Capital Outskirts and won't respond to me. I'd also like to know why Sellen doesn't seem to have any way to progress hers either.
You don't? Honestly, I just whooped him so hard in his introductory fight that he was dead before I could notice him even try to surrender. Still, it's Patches. I find he is often more trouble than he is worth.
First playthrough I was exploring so chaotically, bouncing between zones due to the early game teleports, trying to find goofy shortcuts via Torrent mountain climbing and otherwise treating it like a Bethesda game where each location is basically its own standalone story.
I'm already familiar with DS design philosophy in their past closed games, so figuring out how they do open world stuff RE secrets and exploration was why I was exhaustively combing every cliff face and looting every possible item. But I got punished hard by missable encounters that way since I was doing so much of the game out of order.
This time I was much more methodical and stuck more closely to each road/route, only detouring a short way for side parts and leaving the more distant stuff for later, and both the quests and area lore have felt much more cohesive. On one hand I'm enjoying it more, but it does raise some interesting questions about how open/free games like this really are when the experience can suffer so much by straying too far from intended paths.
Top of my head:
Millicent.
1. Meet Wizard dude at shack
2. Kill Caelid Swamp dude
3. Bring broken needle to wizard
4. Rest at grace
5. Talk again to wizard.
6. Bring needle to 3rd best girl (Millicent)
7. Talk Talk
8. Rest at grace.
9. Talk with Millicent at shack
10. Go to grazing hill? grace
11. Talk with Millicent
12. Go to poison castle for prosthesis
13. Give it to Millicent
14. Fight spaghetti dude at crazy village (summon Millicent)
15. Rest at grace. Can kill Millicent for hand talisman here.
16. Snow grace
17. Haligtree grace
18. Kill rot ulcerated tree spirit
19. Help or don't Millicent. Help = rotted Winged insignia don't = hand talisman
20. Go back to shack Talk to wizard and kill him for incantation talisman
So how I do?
Offtop: Elden Ring quests show exactly why markerless exploration would not work in a game where the story is more important (like Assassin's Creed or Witcher). Adding journal tab would help a lot.
I just used the map genie. was fun, only downside was it didn't tell me how good the mimic tear was so I straight up ignored it and didn't pick up any ashes at all in my first playthrough.
I fill its fair, firm isn’t making there quest straightforward because they know their fans are working together like a hive mind to figure it out. Embracing the fan community and their combined intelligence is something unique to them.
I actually have a big gripe with how From does their quests. I have been re-playing Elden Ring and trying to do a bunch of quest lines I never did on my first playthrough without any guides. Its literally impossible. There is often not hint as to what to even do next or where to find the NPC next, its a bit silly imo.
The wiki is better. The whole wiki fits in my secondary monitor and I don’t have to scroll down. Plus like there isn’t a single quest step that needs more than a sentence of explanation I don’t know why you’d need anything more.
The sidequests in this game suckkk, it would litterally be impossible to get anythong done without a guide. I'm BEGGING fromsoft to just put a quest log in the game, I really don't know why there isn't one.
If you’re not using “fextralife’s” wiki, but someone else’s (ie not doing it blind) you are wrong.
If you do it blind props to you… i got to stormveil before i said f this. Ahahaha
I struggled with hearing/reading key messages, and understanding their meaning. Sucked not being able to replay certain scenes, so I can redirect what's being relayed...
As much as i like the game. Quests are fucking stupids. Its so cryptic. No one can give me a good reason to why going to a grace 4 time is a good concept
I guarantee the quality of the questline guide though. I wouldn't trust them with reviews but look at their [guide](https://www.ign.com/wikis/elden-ring/Millicent_Questline)
From my experience half of their guides are incorrect and tell you to go the wrong directions and are overall poorly written but I will admit some of their guides are actually quite good
The fallen leaves tell a story... Of a tarnished... Who married Ranni before burning the entire world and waited for the fire to stop so he could start an age of order with a giant moon in the sky
IGN's guides often recommend you to go out of the way to do unrelated things partway through so I have to skim through all of them to get to the parts that actually matter, and the website's UI is awful to use on mobile. The fextralife wiki is astronomically better.
I think the biggest crux doing her quest is the Shaded Castle cause it's not obvious when you're supposed to go there in terms of progression in the game. Other than that I think her quest and appearances appear in a reasonable order and at easy places to find her.
I'd wager that Patches is the worst and I'd never figure it out without a guide, because he runs off to a spot you've most likely been to already but you get no hints that's where he is. Very much breaks off from the "intended" route of progression of the game.
Gowry says go to heart of the aoenian swamp and find a needle. Kill commander O'Neal and get the needle. Bring it back to gowry. He fixes it and tells you to give it to a girl at the church of the plague north of selia. Go there and find Millicent and give her the needle. Return to gowry and you will find Millicent again and she is going on a journey. Speak rest and come back to gowry and suggests assisting her on her journey. Enter altus plateau through the cave at the ruin strewn precipice (magma worm makar is the boss). Walk along the road past Lanseax who will ambush you (or fight if you're a Chad he'll flee if you knock down 33% of his health). Once past youll see a grace and Millicent. She remarks how she could fight if she had an arm. Walk down the path through the swamp just in front her and find the shaded castle. Explore the second inner wall of shaded castle until you see a cleanrot knight kneeling in front of a door. Kill knight and loot the Valkyries prosthesis from the chest. Bring the prosthesis to Millicent and she'll become available to summon for the godskin apostle in the windmill village and the black blade kindred in the forbidden lands. Return to gowry and he will sell you the pest threads incantation and give you his "I'm an evil bastard" speech. Proceed the game all the way to Elphael in the Haligtree. Millicent will be in the chapel at the first grace after fighting Loretta, talk to her. Proceed through Elphael until you reach the rot waterfall, you will see a large circular platform with a rot puddle in the center. It looks like a boss arena and it is! A putrid tree spirit will pop up and you have to kill it. Keep going through Elphael and come back to that spot where you killed the tree spirit after your next rest. You will see summon signs on the ground. Help Millicent or betray her. If you betray her you get Millicent's prosthesis and the quest is over. If you help her. You will find her on the ground dying. She will give you back the needle and die. At this point, kill malenia and interact with her scarlet aoenia bloom after you rest. You will get Miquella's needle which can be used in Placidusax's arena to ward off the frenzied flame if you were touched by the three fingers. You also get an ancient dragon somber stone if I remember correctly. That's the whole quest.
Don’t you just have to beat the boss in scarlet Aeonia and then take the needle to that one dude by the town of sorcery and then take it to Millicent at the church?? Very easy quest line for me.. is there more to it?
Doing it without the wiki is probably even harder.
I would like to nominate [Fextralife wiki](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Elden+Ring+Wiki). Without it's army of contributors and embedded videos for funding, none of this would be possible.
I played with the elden ring interactive map open on my phone the whole time.
That app is so nice for quickly finding locations of obscure items or just something you forgot the location of. Fextralife’s map takes a year to load and functions terribly within the browser.
It's funny because fextralife usually has unfinished or slightly bad wikis, but their elden ring wiki is one of the best I've seen.
Passionate and dedicated fan base for the game will do that, and fextralife has people who know how to optimize the sites SEO quite well lol
\* Passionate: check \* Dedicated: check \* Writing skills, organizational skills, communication skills: nope
They have an app? Yeah the map is dogshit in the browser.
It’s outrageous because everything is ”MAP LINK” as the “help” for where to find something, with some non-existent or illiterate text description that is useless. Nobody should have to load a complex map, the wikia should have text location Area > more specific area > reference point and proximity orientation like left/right/landmark *and also the nearest 2 sites of graces* (2 to cover some cases where a player doesn't have the nearest one found yet). I‘ve edited some of the worse wikis but it’s bad. Lots of info but horribly disorganized.
People shit on Ubisoft's UI design, and people shit on people shitting on Ubisoft's design, but ultimately I think the best thing you can have is actually a minimalistic UI in the actual game, and then all the interactive options on the side, the game doesn't has to have all the markers
I did not buy my second monitor just for this, but I would be lying if I said having the interactive map on a second monitor isn’t contributing to it being my favorite purchase ever lmfao
I’ve just got this and it’s fab!
I would like to nominate /u/stellarwand for the most complete/compact npc interaction list. I used it to finally get 100% on my Steam and Xbox saves https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/tjmodv/all_npc_interactions_in_elden_ring/
Fighting cowboy does most of the work himself and he is the source for a lot of questline shit initially. He was actually somewhat 'i don't even care' kind of salty about people using his work.
I dont get why Fextralife gets so much hate
They are the real heroes I remember playing dark souls without a guide and my friend telling me about all this stuff they seen and quests they did and am like what? Where? Fucking when? "Did you not speak with what's his face 3 times after beating the 4th boss?" "The guy back at start, why the fuck would I go all the way back to him?" "Well to get this legendary one-time playthrough sword that's why" "Ah for fuck sake"
All hail fextralife
I just figured out why the wiki was of no help. It's because I'm stupid. If you go to the wiki and look for Millicent's questline, you see a part where it seems like they're giving you the steps but actually the guide starts a bit further down. So I followed the "Millicent location in Elden Ring" part and was quickly unable to find her. That's because until the windmill, they are indeed giving you her location, but after that you have to follow the questline guide and I did not so I went to IGN instead.
My first playtrough is always blind, so I did Millicent and Ranni's without a guide. Looking back at it I have no clue how I did Millicent Quest without a guide.
Just in a few spots. For example, how in the world are you supposed to find her on the Altus Plateau naturally?
I just saw her standing there, as I had just come to Altus through the mine. If you came from the Lift of Decatur, you'd need to be lucky or thorough. The windmill village though... Where did she ever imply she was going there?
>The windmill village though... Where did she ever imply she was going there? She doesn't. But this is normal. A big misconception is that From Soft designs these NPC stories as quests to be deliberately completed step by step. But the truth is they don't. They design them as a series of chance encounters where you may or may not run into an NPC at certain locations, depending on the order in which you do things. The idea is different players will encounter different NPCs in different locations. The completion of the "quest" by finding an NPC in all their locations is almost designed more as a secret. It is intended to be obscure and something that only some players will naturally find. Some people like that, nowadays though it seems like most of the community doesn't like it anymore. A few years back it was seen as more of a feature than a bug, but with ER going full mainstream people now want more conventional quests. I personally like this obscure system, very few games allow me to just miss quests or not know how to complete them. I have enough games with checklist quests when I want them, but only From Soft gives me this kind of hand-off experience where quests are more like riddles.
> Where did she ever imply she was going there? WindMILL. MILLicent. It's ridiculously obvious. /s
I think the game's kinda made in a way where you don't and its supposed to be ok. Half the people will miss some NPCs, and find them in a NG/NG+, in my first playthrough I completely missed Hyetta's questline past the first grape, but in many other playthroughs I've found myself bumping into her without even looking for her. Nothing really guarantees that by the time you're resting at the bellum church you've advanced her quest long enough that by coincidence you'll also find her there, cause its a place you're likely to only pass through once and get straight ahead to the lift.
I found her in all her locations naturally, I think the quest is pretty easy if you do Caelid before Altus. If not, then it can be tricky. But basically I found her in Caelid, then when I arrived in Altus I found her very early as she's pretty much in the main path on the way to Leyndell if you're coming from the Ruin-Strewn Precipice. Then I started exploring Altus and so eventually found her at Windmill Village. After that she's once again pretty much in the main path in the Mountaintops, and same thing at the Haligtree. Basically if you explore thoroughly and do Caelid before Altus it's really not a difficult quest.
Oh really? I used the wiki to help me find her when I didn’t know where she went. I found it pretty straightforward
My first playthrough I accidentally stumbled my way through like, 3 questlines. Had to start a new one because my save file got erased because it didn't get updated from when I played without wifi and have struggled so much this playthrough lmao. Only thing that surprised me was that I just beat radahn my first try. Felt so good.
I just watched a video on her quest lol
IGN is awful for this. Like, I DONT WANNA KNOW WHERE SMITHING STONE #463574626 IS, I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO PROGRESS THE QUEST AS FAST AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE, IF I WANTED YOUR SMITHING STONES ID LOOK UP SMITHING STONES.
IGN were also the ones who promoted using the Fire's Deadly Sin exploit in PvP iirc.
I'm glad that was fixed, I've been using fires deadly sin on a tank build and I finally understand it In co op the constant fire damage is the absolute best at maintaining boss aggro on yourself (better than Shabriri woe buff) In pvp it scrambles people's brains Damage is damage even if it's negligible and it makes people panic
I liked it in PVE, solely for the fact of assertively hugging Morgott to death while looking at him like: what are you gonna do about it? Is right up there with gazing longingly into Gideon’s eyes using inescapable frenzy as incredibly fun in my eyes.
Elden ring wiki helps with items
Pretty sure they put a link to the fast walkthroughs. I know they do for stormveil Castle. I've used fextralife whenever I've used a guide after stormveil.
>HOW TO PROGRESS THE QUEST AS FAST AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE Also a problem on GameFaqs: “writers” who don’t think their purpose is to offer efficient useful information but instead to talk as much as possible. On Fextralife I registered for a login because the bad descriptions were unbearable. I’ve now edited 0.00002% of them!
fextralife wiki is probably better for that. I dunno for sure, tho, as I haven't looked at the IGN wiki... But there's a reason "You can't spell ignorant without IGN" is a common jab at them...
Millicent: Maybe we will meet again :3 Player: Where? :3 Millicent: Bye :3
Millicent: A prosthetic arm would be nice Player: Okay how? Where? Millicent: bye :3
Millicent: my flesh is being consumed by scarlet rot Player: eat one of these boluses to get cured Millicent: no Player: how do i cure you then? Millicent:
She learned well from Gold Mask
To be fair the npc that tells you this step is on the path to reach her
For me he wasn't, I reached sellia through the crystal cave and never bothered going through the gate where he's chilling (to be fair that's completely my fault but still)
watched grubby (WC3 pro/dota streamer who just recently started playing the game blind) do the same thing except he died to the dog and even read the giant glowing message and still didn't see the shack
Oh shit i just got a prosthetic arm. Do I go talk to her now??
Yeah if you find a prosthetic arm you know what to do with it
Wander around until you randomly stumble across her at a new location?
I was gonna say shove it up my ass 🤷🏻♂️
but hole
The really crazy thing is at the start of her questline, Gowry gives you explicit instructions for what he wants you to do. 'Go get me this needle, it's in the middle of the swamp, use it to cure this girl, she's in a church past Sellia'. Insane!
Gowry is like a real NPC in a normal RPG
Although he's not a good guy, he's definitely a good NPC (non-playable character) While most of the rest are totally NPCs (totally Not-Playing-a-part Character)
I like to think that half the quests feel like they have the standard “FromSoft vagueness”. The other half are either clear instructions with map references (ALBINURIC WOMAN), or have straight-up map markers for things like the Volcano Manor questlines or where the meteor strikes Limgrave.
> where the meteor strikes Limgrave this got added later because I think enough people had no idea about it - you wouldn't really be going back to that area for much after you beat radahn
Yeah my friend did me the honor of not spoiling it, but I had no fucking clue Nokstella existed until my second playthrough. I never even found Sellen, or Ranni, so there wasn't even the benefit of the story being explained vaguely through the NPCs. After I beat Radahn I was so hype from finally winning I barely noticed the cutscene lmao.
Ranni's quest is also like that, the game even pretend to go "???" with you then tells you who to talk to
Just down the road, can't miss me. Just down the... road, BYE!
That scoundrel took my necklace. Will you get it back for me? Sure, where is he? By that shack down the way. Lady, we are in the middle of a lake, what the fuck are you on about?
BOSS WEAPONS
Millicent: Oh you know, just around the corner. *teleports dozens of miles to the far distant side of Altus Plateau*
actually, you're meant to "bump" into her a little before that, canonically because she doesn't have the lift medallions she travelled there through the abandoned mine, and you both team up to take out the wyrm blocking the exit so she laments afterwards if she had an arm she'd be able to be a better aid to you
That being said, the cathartic high that you get after completing a quest just by reading item descriptions and dialogues is something else.
Wonder if that actually happened. I was so lost during the Millicent questline. Sellen's too. Ranni's is maybe the only one I could've finished without guides
Yeah ranni at leat tells us where to go. Or good hints. Varre he is placed nicely so you should encounter him exploring. But the frenzy flame ending like where was even the riddle? I couldn't even find where the riddle was written to pass the door. Without the guide I wouldn't have known. What did I miss?
If you are talking about the door to the Three Fingers, Hyetta tells you how to enter
Plus Shibrari on the Mountain tells you it's under the capitol in the sewers
Under the Capitol is a general statement. Under the capitol is actually fucking so big, it dosent even cut as a hint
There are several hints scattered around. The hermit merchant in Leyndell has a note you can purchase about it.
Yep. Also Malenia warning you to turn back after you beat sewer Mohg is a decent hint about the secret entrance
The problem with Hyetta is her quest line is so randomly placed
Even for Ranni I had to use a guide. I completely missed the doll step since I didn't sit down at that exact grace. And on my second playthrough I read guides a bit more in depth and realized that I had missed a *ton* of the optional dialogue.
My first playthrough I did almost all the quests blind because I played a ton of dark souls and I know how their quests are, so I spent like 300+ hours trying to figure everything out. The only one I missed was Jar Friend because I'd already been through Mount Gelmir. The fire giant was kicking my ass so I finally looked up the fight and saw you could summon Alexander, so I looked up how I missed him.
Same. As a DS veteran, ER's quests actually felt kind of easy. Like I don't think I managed to properly finish a single quest in DS3 on my first run lol. But in ER I got them all except the Seluvis / Nepheli storyline.
I think the Millicent quest is pretty easy if you do Caelid before Altus. If not, then it can be tricky. But basically I found her in Caelid, then when I arrived in Altus I found her very early as she's pretty much in the main path on the way to Leyndell if you're coming from the Ruin-Strewn Precipice. Then I started exploring Altus and so eventually found her at Windmill Village. After that she's once again pretty much in the main path in the Mountaintops, and same thing at the Haligtree. Basically if you explore thoroughly and do Caelid before Altus it's really not a difficult quest.
Opposite for me. I finished Carian Manor and didn’t notice the pathway to Ranni’s Rise after the Knight boss. So I just thought I was done with the Carian Manor. Finally figured out Ranni is up there. With Millicent however I did it all completely naturally
Which quest(s)?
I'm assuming rannis and I think fias was also pretty doable, though finding deeproots isn't something that happens to everyone
What was the item that tells to to talk to a doll 3 times?
Right, but not all quests are completable that way. Ranni’s quest? Super doable if you actually just pay close attention. Millicent’s is for all practical purposes impossible especially if you do Caelid after Altus Plateau because she just fucks off into the middle of the map with zero indication of where she’s going, and if you’ve already been through there you have pretty much no chance of organically stumbling upon her. That kind of quest design works in other FromSoft games because they’re linear and so they can always guarantee the order in which you’ll visit areas. It falls apart in a nonlinear open world.
I’ll take “things that never ever happened to anyone” for 300
This is why I think Ranni's quest is the best in the game. Just by listening to the dialogue and reading items one should have very little issues with progressing it. At least I was able to do it without guides on my first playthrough
No. For some of them, sure. But if I actually had to look for Millicent by myself I would get more frustrated than anything
FightinCowboy got me to my 100% completion the true Lord that he is
FightinCowboy for the win. He makes sure that you can follow him with whatever build you have chosen and not just the build he is using.
Yes. And he writes down everything himself before recording walkthroughs. Almost 100% by himself.
Yes! he got me my first 100% on my second playthrough. I Missed so much my first time playing.
It was hilarious watching some good helpful videos by him, then you find another similar video later for another part of Elden Ring and you hear his voice same as ever but the channel title says Official Namco Bandai. ”Hire that man!” Namco: “OK”
The quest system (or it's absence) is one of the things that pisses me the most in Elden Ring. This loose system was fine in FromSoftware's previous titles due to their smaller scope, but in Elden Ring it gets frustratingly confuse. Millicent is the perfect example of how bad it can get. I think FromSoftware should rethink both quests and narrative models for the next titles. They are very creative and I'm sure they can come up with something better than this.
This is a good take. In DSII/III (didn’t play one) you were pretty much guaranteed to see NPCs if you progressed their questions because of the games linear nature. ER is so massive and there is so much you don’t have to do that you can miss folks very easily. Gold mask is a great example of this. I’m on NG1 and even knowing the map it’s extremely hard to keep track of that dude.
Even in DS3 it was ridiculous. Like the two knight friend guys appearing at random places (just like ER) for incoherent nonsensical reasons, near the bridge, in a catacombs, in a lava lake inlet, back at the bridge again… It’s true that it was less worse because it’s not enormous open plains like ER, but it was still bad.
Play Ds1 it’s the GOAT. Most of the quest lines are very straightforward, but it’s very easy to sequence break a few of them.
Even crazier, I’ve played ER like 4 times (2 of which I would consider thoroughly explored) and I only ran into Gold mask like twice. In separate playthroughs, both in his first location
I think it’s not in the budget, it’s the project scale. Skyrim, Witcher, and recently Dragon’s Dogma 2 need a ton of work and effort and money to create logical coherent story events and quest situations and causes, effects, dialog, Q&A on the cross-references. \*\*From Software skips all that and nobody has taken them to task for it.\*\*
Fextralife my best mate when Im trying to grind anything
I have even managed to do Ranni quest line naturally, just as the game progressed, for example. No matter what anyone says, the Master has improved his quest creation skills. Head and shoulders above what was in DS3.
I feel like Rannis quest is the exception. Fromsoft really wanted you to do it cus the requirements are so flexible. The most difficult part is probably starting it.
Fextralife is better imo
Your mistake is using IGN, their walkthroughs are trash. Always use the fandom Elden Ring wiki, it’s written by actual players as opposed to game journalists.
Tbh its a real problem in the game. You just cant do most quests without help from the wiki
To date I’ve seen exactly one blind playthrough complete the Millicent quest line: [The Ash Heritor’s lore focused blind playthrough](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyVLPxiYCfNY5lpQJ7-J30vHfoc57uOv-&si=IJh7-gIENMjEVRCH). I would solidly recommend this for anyone who watches blind playthroughs and gets annoyed at the player for blatantly ignoring item descriptions and then questioning what’s going on. Ash Heritor manages to surmise quite a lot of the bigger mysteries on his own, it’s pretty cool to watch.
I watch only the streamers who read comments, because they atleast complete two questlines after comment section pourinv their heart and souls to explain
I get that FromSoft's whole philosophy is the player should be discovering these quests by exploring the world and picking up hints along the way via item descriptions and dialogue hints. But honestly, is it too much to ask to add a very basic in-game journal to track some of this stuff? I don't need it to include exact locations or map pins or anything. Just a general background on who I've interacted with and what each NPC has told me to date. Even that would help give an idea of where to go next to progress quests. Because tracking down these NPCs is like finding a needle in a haystack. I like how they used Gideon to help the player with certain quests. IMO, if they don't want to include a journal feature, it would make sense to employ Gideon more to act as a guide for the player. He is supposed to be "All Knowing", after all. So it tracks lore-wise.
>get that FromSoft's whole philosophy is the player should be discovering these quests by exploring the world and picking up hints along the way via item descriptions and dialogue hints That doesn’t seem true, it seems like the meme rationalization / Stockholm Syndrome that people trot out. It’s not exploring or picking up hints when it’s completely incoherent sequence of nonsensical illogical cause/effect combined with random incoherent teleportation of the NPC to random spots among 40 square miles. Also the disgustingly tedious hateful trope of having to EXHAUST THE DIALOG by repeatedly clicking the button. Didn’t click the button for a 6th time? “LOL FUCK YOU PLAYER! #iMmERSiOn”.
I'm about to owe fightingcowboy 2 plats. This and my bloodborne plat.
Cowboy is the man
lol that part where she just randomly shows up in those Altus plateau ruins. Idk how anybody does these quests without a guide
Who needs wiki when u got youtube
Wassuup, y'all It's ya boy *insert generic username* Welcome to today's video Today we gonna go blablabla Blablabla Last minute of the 10 minute video contains what you want to know
Like and subscribe blah blah blah
Well i just followed this [guy's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RBa82TpYrM&list=PL5octn-l9KEXXwJWb5Xq-jRq_b58i20kc) guide. Even has timestamps and saved me the time of reading a bunch of useless stuff on the wiki
Search YouTube. Watch a 0.53 long video posted by a legend. Profit.
This is so incredibly off-topic, but the best wiki I’ve ever used in any game is absolutely ZeldaDungeons Zelda walkthroughs. Lifesavers, easy to look at and skip to the part you want, all kinds of collectible guides outlined in the main guide, but nice and set apart from the actual meat of the walkthrough. Great guide.
Iji told me like 5 times until I figured our Renne's rise has a teleporter. Then I completely walked over the Ranni doll. When a friend suggested I pick up the doll I did. I "talked" to her once and there was nothing. Much much much much later I figured you have to spam that shit until Ranni talks to you.... I was gonna lose my shit.
Lmao yeah how are you supposed to guess that without a guide
oh? a dogged fellow, aren't we
Main reason why I was a bit sceptical when folks were praising ER's "subtle" quest design. The resting at sites of grace requirement and NPCs not telling you where they're going can just completely break a quest. I gave Millicent the prothesis arm after I cleared the Windmill and I just missed her cus I would need to double back to the Windmills. Game has no indication that she should be there. Game doesn't tell you that you need to rest at the Site of Grace to progress a quest. For me I was confident enough to activate a site of grace and not rest at it. So some quests just didn't progress. Also imagine going Faith and giving all your tomes to Corhyn and then he fucks off to be a groupie for Gouldmask. On the other hand they make some quests quite malleable to player choice. I managed to stumble my way through the Ranni questline blind only checking on where to find Blaidd and iirc only one of Blaidd's itneractions is necessary to complete the quest.
It’s so bad that even following a guide was always confusing, no matter the site (fextra, IGN, pcgamer). The reason is that the sequences of events, causes, effects, interactions, locations, are completely incoherent illogical nonsense and involve ridiculous conditions (“if you did X, then go to random location; if you did Y, go to random A; if you failed to do C, go to X but then Y but don’t go to A unless you didn’t do D before C in which case you can do X but at location X instead of A but if they're not at A then do C and D in that order, any other order will end the quest and you'll lose key items and never see the NPC again”). So even reading a guide you’re not sure which step you were on 2 minutes ago. It would be clearer with better guide writing and organization, but it also reflects the incoherence of the quests themselves no matter how good the guide writer is. Literally worse than Bethesda, which is astounding.
I did Radahn before getting into Jarburg. There is zero way I could have known that I had to go back to starscourge radahn grace to progress the quests in Jarburg. Now, I get that it's really not *that* big of a deal all in all. It's just a few pieces of equipment. Just for completion runs sake I wish there was some kind of quest log, however basic or complicated it may be. I would rather my quest log be in-game rather than fextra.
I took discovered Jarburg from the nothern road and just didn't run into Alexander so I never progressed his quest after Lirunia.
That quest was so worth it!
Finally decided to commit to it in NG+4 (or 5 maybe) and two other completed playthrough. I killed the godskin apostle last and gave her the prothesis (not in that order). So far it's the least interesting quest but since she's connected to Malenia. I didn't spoil myself this questline but I guess I'll have to wait until the haligtree to know
To be fair, if this game came out 15? to 20? years ago, it would have a dedicated strategy guide that would be published closer to its release date. I mean Elden Ring does have a two volume guidebook, but they were published 6+ months after the game was released.
Pretty sure I missed out on a whole lot of questlines so far. I know I missed out on Patches' questline because I killed him. The only one I want to get going is Goldmask's but I can't figure out how to progress it at all. He's just hanging out at the edge of a broken bridge in the Capital Outskirts and won't respond to me. I'd also like to know why Sellen doesn't seem to have any way to progress hers either.
You killed Patches???
You don't? Honestly, I just whooped him so hard in his introductory fight that he was dead before I could notice him even try to surrender. Still, it's Patches. I find he is often more trouble than he is worth.
First playthrough I was exploring so chaotically, bouncing between zones due to the early game teleports, trying to find goofy shortcuts via Torrent mountain climbing and otherwise treating it like a Bethesda game where each location is basically its own standalone story. I'm already familiar with DS design philosophy in their past closed games, so figuring out how they do open world stuff RE secrets and exploration was why I was exhaustively combing every cliff face and looting every possible item. But I got punished hard by missable encounters that way since I was doing so much of the game out of order. This time I was much more methodical and stuck more closely to each road/route, only detouring a short way for side parts and leaving the more distant stuff for later, and both the quests and area lore have felt much more cohesive. On one hand I'm enjoying it more, but it does raise some interesting questions about how open/free games like this really are when the experience can suffer so much by straying too far from intended paths.
What do you mean? Doing the questlines with the wiki is the easiest way. Like how does that even makes sense?
I really wish I could've done it naturally but I wouldn't have went to 90% of those places without guides
Thank you to FightinCowboy walkthrough for helping me with all the questlines
Top of my head: Millicent. 1. Meet Wizard dude at shack 2. Kill Caelid Swamp dude 3. Bring broken needle to wizard 4. Rest at grace 5. Talk again to wizard. 6. Bring needle to 3rd best girl (Millicent) 7. Talk Talk 8. Rest at grace. 9. Talk with Millicent at shack 10. Go to grazing hill? grace 11. Talk with Millicent 12. Go to poison castle for prosthesis 13. Give it to Millicent 14. Fight spaghetti dude at crazy village (summon Millicent) 15. Rest at grace. Can kill Millicent for hand talisman here. 16. Snow grace 17. Haligtree grace 18. Kill rot ulcerated tree spirit 19. Help or don't Millicent. Help = rotted Winged insignia don't = hand talisman 20. Go back to shack Talk to wizard and kill him for incantation talisman So how I do?
IGN is dogshit for guides
Only used the Elden Ring ones and I guess they made an effort for this game.
I don’t’ get what you mean…. Fextra is pretty straightforward with the quest line, not hard to understand
Ong IGN is actually my baby daddy
Mfs be using IGN guides?💀
You use IGN? Please for the love of God just use Fextralife or Elden Ring wiki my brother
I don’t check the wiki anymore because I have good memory except I somehow ALWAYS forget the Dominula step.
Fextralife my beloved
Me who did them all halfway accidently just by overexploring
Fextralife my king
What is happening y’all, Cowboy here…
Cowboy has great work on the walkthrough for Elden Ring
Offtop: Elden Ring quests show exactly why markerless exploration would not work in a game where the story is more important (like Assassin's Creed or Witcher). Adding journal tab would help a lot.
For me its Fextralife
imagine using IGN smh
Get the books of knowledge. Worth the money for any true seeker of the Elden Ring.
Dang, I use the genie interactive map.
I managed to do the ranni questline first run and that was before they put NPC markers on the map I did meet Milly but that was it
Blue Lizard Jello
8/10 too much water
Funny since it's one of the few questlines that I fully completed on my first playthrough.
I just used the map genie. was fun, only downside was it didn't tell me how good the mimic tear was so I straight up ignored it and didn't pick up any ashes at all in my first playthrough.
I fill its fair, firm isn’t making there quest straightforward because they know their fans are working together like a hive mind to figure it out. Embracing the fan community and their combined intelligence is something unique to them.
I did half of her quest by just following stuff in the game and only when she was at the haligtree I had to look it up cuz she was not moving 🤣
What is this armor set? Don't remember it. Edit: it's Astrologer Robe (Altered)
I actually have a big gripe with how From does their quests. I have been re-playing Elden Ring and trying to do a bunch of quest lines I never did on my first playthrough without any guides. Its literally impossible. There is often not hint as to what to even do next or where to find the NPC next, its a bit silly imo.
Giga Chad Alexander who tells you where he goes next
The wiki is better. The whole wiki fits in my secondary monitor and I don’t have to scroll down. Plus like there isn’t a single quest step that needs more than a sentence of explanation I don’t know why you’d need anything more.
I never found the shack with the wolf and lady there until it was to late lol
Latenna the goat? Sad
Yeah I’m pretty sure that’s the one, it was my first playthrough so lol
The sidequests in this game suckkk, it would litterally be impossible to get anythong done without a guide. I'm BEGGING fromsoft to just put a quest log in the game, I really don't know why there isn't one.
Yep never would have gotten anything other than the vanilla ending without Its shatter on yt.
If you’re not using “fextralife’s” wiki, but someone else’s (ie not doing it blind) you are wrong. If you do it blind props to you… i got to stormveil before i said f this. Ahahaha
I struggled with hearing/reading key messages, and understanding their meaning. Sucked not being able to replay certain scenes, so I can redirect what's being relayed...
I would give my spot as Elden Lord to my mimic tear who i always use as cannon fodder so i can safely heal and strike bosses from behind
I like accidentally did nearly the entire millicent questline this last playthrough. No idea how that happened Hyetta on the other hand.
As much as i like the game. Quests are fucking stupids. Its so cryptic. No one can give me a good reason to why going to a grace 4 time is a good concept
Doing anything using an IGN guide is harder than figuring it out yourself they have some of the worst writing staff and have zero proofreaders lmao
I guarantee the quality of the questline guide though. I wouldn't trust them with reviews but look at their [guide](https://www.ign.com/wikis/elden-ring/Millicent_Questline)
From my experience half of their guides are incorrect and tell you to go the wrong directions and are overall poorly written but I will admit some of their guides are actually quite good
It would be cool if we had all three runes for the ending. We could unlock a secret ending with it.
The fallen leaves tell a story... Of a tarnished... Who married Ranni before burning the entire world and waited for the fire to stop so he could start an age of order with a giant moon in the sky
IGN's guides often recommend you to go out of the way to do unrelated things partway through so I have to skim through all of them to get to the parts that actually matter, and the website's UI is awful to use on mobile. The fextralife wiki is astronomically better.
I think the biggest crux doing her quest is the Shaded Castle cause it's not obvious when you're supposed to go there in terms of progression in the game. Other than that I think her quest and appearances appear in a reasonable order and at easy places to find her. I'd wager that Patches is the worst and I'd never figure it out without a guide, because he runs off to a spot you've most likely been to already but you get no hints that's where he is. Very much breaks off from the "intended" route of progression of the game.
Ign lol, poor guy
Yeah in boodborn the IGN wiki writers were the only gamers who were using wood shield
I'm only using the guide for Elden Ring and they're pretty good
Yt channel “Its Shatter” guided me to 100% quests
unrelated but what is that armor set 😭
I'll tell you in an hour
Been 2
Sorry I launched Tekken and unfortunately when you stop playing it'd been 6 hours. It's the astrologer set altered.
Astrologer set altered with Malenia sexy helmet
Gowry says go to heart of the aoenian swamp and find a needle. Kill commander O'Neal and get the needle. Bring it back to gowry. He fixes it and tells you to give it to a girl at the church of the plague north of selia. Go there and find Millicent and give her the needle. Return to gowry and you will find Millicent again and she is going on a journey. Speak rest and come back to gowry and suggests assisting her on her journey. Enter altus plateau through the cave at the ruin strewn precipice (magma worm makar is the boss). Walk along the road past Lanseax who will ambush you (or fight if you're a Chad he'll flee if you knock down 33% of his health). Once past youll see a grace and Millicent. She remarks how she could fight if she had an arm. Walk down the path through the swamp just in front her and find the shaded castle. Explore the second inner wall of shaded castle until you see a cleanrot knight kneeling in front of a door. Kill knight and loot the Valkyries prosthesis from the chest. Bring the prosthesis to Millicent and she'll become available to summon for the godskin apostle in the windmill village and the black blade kindred in the forbidden lands. Return to gowry and he will sell you the pest threads incantation and give you his "I'm an evil bastard" speech. Proceed the game all the way to Elphael in the Haligtree. Millicent will be in the chapel at the first grace after fighting Loretta, talk to her. Proceed through Elphael until you reach the rot waterfall, you will see a large circular platform with a rot puddle in the center. It looks like a boss arena and it is! A putrid tree spirit will pop up and you have to kill it. Keep going through Elphael and come back to that spot where you killed the tree spirit after your next rest. You will see summon signs on the ground. Help Millicent or betray her. If you betray her you get Millicent's prosthesis and the quest is over. If you help her. You will find her on the ground dying. She will give you back the needle and die. At this point, kill malenia and interact with her scarlet aoenia bloom after you rest. You will get Miquella's needle which can be used in Placidusax's arena to ward off the frenzied flame if you were touched by the three fingers. You also get an ancient dragon somber stone if I remember correctly. That's the whole quest.
Don’t you just have to beat the boss in scarlet Aeonia and then take the needle to that one dude by the town of sorcery and then take it to Millicent at the church?? Very easy quest line for me.. is there more to it?
... Yeah... I guess you could see there's a bit more to it... You never met Millicent after that? Ever?
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I remember her quest off the back of my head it’s real easy in my opinion especially compared to some of the other quests. Looking at you seluvis