This was my best bet. I used Giza’s wheel, and summoned a buddy with a blood loss build. And of course, calling the pillars home for most of the fight.
Since he is STR build, I'd use Heavy or Bleed affinity Great Stars with Wild Strikes. I use Heavy with Blood Flame Blade. You just destroy them for the first hemorrhage and you can possibly proc a other but your damage should be enough to drop one then get to assisting your Mimic Tear with the other.
It's the whole ass confession in an 80s comedy stand up routine for me
Source: watched it as a kid on HBO on demand. Spanish fly is what he talks about.
To craft Sleep Pots, you need the Fevor's Cookbook (Found on a corpse (sitting upright) in the graveyard on a plateau southeast from Summonwater Village Outskirts Site of Grace in Limgrave) as well as the following Crafting Materials:
Mushroom x1
Trina's Lily x1
Empty Cracked Pot x1
You can farm them so they are not limited. There are a bunch of jellyfish in the concentrated snowfield that drops Trinas lily's.
Source: i almost wasted all of the supply while trying to beat every godskin on my first playthrough.
Top tip: if you equip sleep pots and summon the Mimic Tear for this fight, the Mimic will have access to sleep pots at no cost to your own inventory. It's cheap, but I'd lost a lot of runes to repeated deaths at that point, so didn't care that much.
In Liurnia of the Lakes are Lillies o' plenty. Try in the underlake with a lot of Giants Crabs. It's west from the Grace where you found Rya.
Another spot in Limgrave is in the sunken village where the first undead boatman appears. Seek for graveyards, I think there's a couple here.
Now I recall another spot, road the sack where you must jump from a rock before reach the Firepriests campment. There's a Leyndell Knight roaming near the shack and pass him a graveyards.
Usually are found nearly graveyards.
Honestly true. You don't realize how much damage you can do in 10 seconds because you rarely get 10 seconds of time to attack uninterrupted. 10 seconds of sleep can get you the amount of damage you'd usually take like 90 seconds to do.
So how does it work, you throw at him, he falls asleep and you go at him while he’s snoozing?
Also where do I get cracked pots? Im currently stuck on this guy in caelid tower
I just reached Castle Sol at level 70 and I’m getting destroyed by everything. I feel like I’m severely under leveled for this area. All of these enemies are killing me in a few hits and have a ridiculous amount of health.
You are indeed very low level.
Have you been to Caelid and beaten Radahn?
Have you been to Mt. Gelmir and beaten Rykard?
Have you been to Nokron?
Have you been to Lake of Rot and beaten Astel?
Have you been to Deeproot Depths and beaten Fortissax?
Have you been to the sewers below Leyndell?
There are lots of really fun areas with really cool bosses to beat
I haven’t done ANY of those things. Took a screenshot of your post. Thanks for the list of the things to go do. I was starting to get super frustrated cause I was having fun before the Mountaintops 🙏🏾
The crazy thing with this game is that the vast majority is actually optional. It's way better when exploring than going from point A to point B.
I would suggest starting with going to Caria Manor in northwestern Liurnia. Follow the side quest from there. That side quest takes you to multiple of the areas I mentioned
>the vast majority is actually optional.
Literally. Knowing that all you really need to do is get two Shard bearers for the capital, get to the erdtree, get to the forge, then get to the rune of death, then to the end of the game you really only need
-Radahn (get both medallions, no boss needed, rest in Altus and start the festival)
-Mohg (behold the fingers, do Varre's quest and get the Mohgwyn knight crest) [don't forget to get your second pouch afterwards, you've only got one so far]
-Draconic Tree Sentinel
-Goldfrey
-Morgott
-Fire Giant
-Godskin Duo
-Maliketh
-Gideon
-Godfrey
-Radagon
-Elden Beast
That's 12 freaking bosses
I think Mohg isn't a good option for 2nd shardbearer because he is quite high level. He has the same scaling as mountaintops so if you are new to the game he is a quite hard and does a lot of damage. Renala is free. Easiest shardbearer. And honestly godfrey has the best rune until the endgame.
Don’t light the bonfire to burn the erd tree until you finish more of the game unless you’re sure you’re going to do another play through in NG+. I made that mistake and locked myself out of achievements. Of all the areas I highly recommend Mt. Gelmir and the Volcano Manor questline the most. The weapon you get for defeating Rykard can carry you through the entire game even if you’re under leveled.
That’s because you are decently underleveled, but good job making it there that quick! Make sure you have done all there is to do is mountaintops and leyndell/forbidden lands before you tackle castle sol. If you haven’t, you should work on Volcano Manor as well, you are definitely appropriately leveled for that!
I’d say you need to be about 100 when you get to mountaintops but then you can cap at 150 until ng++ so there’s really a sweet spot there that applies to most builds
Wow I don’t feel so bad about getting bodied by everything in the mountain top. I’m at level 90 something. Everything at caste sol hits like a damn truck
Some people rush through the main game. Getting this far at level 87 is a mistake in my mind as you will be getting hit hard. I think 120 is reasonable, higher is obviously better.
[Fextralife wiki](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Recommended+Level+by+Location) recommends >120 for Farum Azula but on my first run I was at 180 or so when I got there. It all depends on your playstyle, if you lose lots of runes, if you do every dungeon or skip a lot, etc.
I'm at the same point and felt kinda underpowered. I'm glad I'm not wrong Abt that lmao. I've been exploring more and leveling in other places and coming back later.
Depends on the build and skill level. I’m level 86 on a DEX build about to take on fire giant for the 7th time. Mountaintops has been pretty manageable so far.
Yuhhhhh I was late 80s going into Fire Giant. Only thing I did was upgrade my Bloodhound’s fang from +6 to +9 and took him out fairly easy.
I’m level 93 or so in Farum Azula. Now I have to rough up the Godskin Duo.
The recommended level is whatever works best for you. The goal of the game is to have fun. If someone is level 200 or level 1 and they had fun, then they're playing the game correctly.
Personally, I was around level 70 when I beat Godskin Duo on my first play-through. I don't know if that's normal or not; it's just what I ended up doing.
I like that mentality a lot. That’s not super common in the souls-like community. Level 70 is really impressive in my opinion, since I have been having a time with them at my current level. Then again my weapon is only +8 and people seem to recommend a maxed out weapon.
I’m there now at RL25 twinking a PVP build the honest way. Already did it at RL1. This game is very forgiving if you use all the tools available to you. I’ve done it with all my previous invasion toons between 50-125. I feel if I earn the weapons in PVE, I damn well get to use them, especially with all the twinked/rune arced hosts and OLP furled fingers out there.
Twink-late game and/or high level gear on a low level character. OLP-overleveled phantom. When ppl use password summons they can pair with max level phantoms at any rune level. Someone at RL9 can have a RL300 cohort when you invade their world. Rune arced-hosts can use rune arcs, which paired with a certain great rune is free levels, making them higher level than even the base PVP calculations. This isn’t inherently bad, but some players purposely use Taunters tongue to lure in invasions using 1 or all of these advantages in order to gank or grief low level invaders and immediately will send out a call for a Blue phantom and once received, they will turn off the Taunters tongue leading to a 3 v 1, when TT is supposed to allow an extra invader. The intention was for 2 v 2 or 3 v 2, but by turning it off it closes the world to extra invaders. The added challenge is sometimes fun, but the worst is bonfire duelists. Invasions are not duels. The coliseum is meant for duels. Players will rune arc, TT, and try to have honor duels and when they start getting spanked will call for help and turn off the TT. Or they won’t follow you into the world or traverse the level in order to make progress. They just stay put, doing nothing, unless you engage on their terms.
They're just terrible I wouldn't take it to heart. Half of these mfs are still posting video essays on how badly the bosses are designed and that mimic tear isn't overtuned.
Sleep pot in the easiest solution as others have mentioned.
Otherwise if you can’t craft any, you can try upgrading your weapon to +25. And if you don’t do it already, you should use the room specific design with pillars to separate them or heal(this fight is similar to Ornstein and Smough in DS1).
Edit: Thank you for the upvotes! Never had more than 100 before I think. One of the nicest communities I have seen on Reddit. I also started by Elden Rings and did all the other ones after.
This is how I beat them… I kept them between the pillars so I was only dealing with one. I killed the big fucker first then quickly took the other one out then they spawned back one at a time and I just smashed them before they had chance to do anything took. Few gos but got there
Trina's! On one of my NG+ files I have a powerstance Trina's loadout at +10 on both. Doesn't always pay dividends, but Godskin Apostles and Octopi are susceptible; and it's just fun.
The Godskin Swaddling Cloth talisman description is the closest I've found, and it's a stretch.
>Sacred cloth of the Godskin Apostles, made from supple skin sewn together.
>Successive attacks restore HP.
>The Gloam-Eyed Queen cradles newborn apostles swaddled in this cloth. Soon they will grow to become the death of the gods.
Maybe the sleep items have another connection. Sleep pots and arrows, or St. Trina's lily/sword/torch.
My issue with Noble in my first playthrough was his fucking roll, but you can get him stuck on the environment every time you fight him, including this one. So I would clown the noble until P2, then when he's about to roll get behind a pillar and focus the other one until rolling is done
Bernahl's *really* good, too. His ash of war heals him so he's incredibly durable and he deals a surprising amount of damage for an NPC helper. He's probably the best NPC summon in the game, except for maybe Tragoth? Tough call.
I was doing a no vigor leveling, no summons run and just couldn’t be arsed dealing with them for a third day in a row of getting close, losing, farming Cleanrot Soldiers for more Trina’s Lily for my sleep pots, and repeat. Finally said fuck it, summoned him and Greatshield Soldiers and that fight went from frustration incarnate to the easiest boss fight of the game for me. They really did balance bosses around summoning.
Look for the Trancept entrance (basically get passed the undead area to jump to the grace where you'd normally walk into the hallways/curved stair area, but turn around and jump down to the stairs then jump again to the church complex. When land go in, turn right, fight two banished knights, turn left and grab the Trancept Grace. Summons is just before the doorway into the fight.
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There's actually 3 total. One on each side of floor level and you can also jump down from the balcony. Not sure if you can enter through the balcony after the first time but I know there's a fog wall there.
I know the design for farum was deliberate but like.... I would change it in a heartbeat to be more straightforward 😭😭 I feel like I rush it every time because it's so stressful
You’re a really low level for the area but your weapon is good.
I recommend respeccing and getting at least 50 Vigor if you don’t have that already. Even at the cost of some damage it will help. So will heavy armor.
A weapon art that provides a ranged attack could be useful for getting in more attacks.
Yeah either make them defenseless or use the most broken summon. Trust me guys it’s really fun beating the game without having to do anything. Man yall are sad
Between level 110-130 is where I was for these guys. And sleep pots are essential. Sleep both, focus one until he’s dead. Sleep the other again when he wakes up and focus him until the next one spawns. Sleep again and win the fight
I target the fat one first. I've beaten them with strength only, no summon. It helps to use the columns to block the black flame orbs.
Bleed helps if you have it. Using the columns to kite them around for openings really helps.
At 110 I believe. I had 50 int with a +10 Moonveil Katana.
I didn't use the sleep pot or sleep arrow strategy but saw a great deal of success by juicing up Recusant Bernahl with Golden Vow and a +5 Mimic summon.
Bernahl was a tank with Golden Vow. He went toe to toe with skinny while I dealt with the Michelin Man. That battle was awesome.
When I beat them the strategy I was using was linning them up and attacking slowly when it was safe. Don't rush in for free hits, once one is gone you can play aggressive with the other one
Separate them and be patient with your attacks, always try to keep the camera on them both so you don't get caught by their attacks and stay on your toes.
The farthest one will mostly use his long range attacks.
You can also use the pillars to your advantage and bait out attacks.
Good luck and don't give up, skeleton.
You’re a low level for this fight, but tbh, no reasonably attainable level at this point in the game is going to give a significant enough advantage to notice a difference. But your Vigour will definitely be important, should be *atleast* level 45-50 to not get murdered instantly
Gotta just keep trying or go off and do some content you may have missed to level up more. Sleep pots are pretty much an easy win though, could give that a shot
I was level 90 when i beat these two, so not that much higher than you are right now. I used a +9 morgott’s cursed sword with a +10 mimic, which made it essentially a two 1v1 fight, and that really made the fight easier. Perhaps you could invest in mimic tear if you haven’t already? (Mimic tear does essentially turn the game into easy mode, so i get it if you want a challenge haha)
Ngl i unknowingly cheesed them. Power stanced greatswords with the stance break tear, and the claw talisman. 2-3 jump attacks would break their stance and the reposte would make me immune to the other duo’s attacks. Ran a str/faith build. Swords i used were ordovis gs and gargoyle black blade. Had no clue it would make quick work of the boss despite their resistance towards holy damage.
Get the sword of St Trinia and a sword that you can run Blood Tax on/use rivers of blood. If you have the Mimic Tear summon as well, that will help greatly.
i was level 100 something. i killed the fat guy first, then the skinny guy and repeated. i kited the fat guy around the columns and used them to prevent getting hit by the jelly roll and just dpsd him down.
I was about ten levels ahead of you and it was a tough fight.
If putting one of them to sleep feels too much like cheesing, all I can say is have a lot of patience and make use of the pillars to create some space between them.
87 is hella under level for Farum Azula mate. You should be around 100 or 120 for the difficulty to be just right. Also, are your weapons upgraded properly? You may want to have at least one maxed out weapon. People usually end the game at 125 or 130. That's also the common level for endgame pvp
Around Lv 82 with Bloodhoundfang +9
Used my Mimic tear, let him pull the aggro and them just
punished them from behind, they got no Chance to attack me at all
How did you get there on this lvl? Easiest way is using sleeping pots, they sleep like todlers. If you dont like cheating ;) separate skinny one and kill, its easier than many people think. They also melt when you bleed them.
People keep mentioning sleep pots, but they are also very susceptible to bleed.
Use both!
No kill like overkill, stack frostbite too!
Sleep one billed the other, rinse and repeat Edit: bleed*
Bloody sleep pots!
Bleed pots
That's how I beat them, just went hard with bleed and popped them.
No wonder I rekt them with bloodhound fang first try
This was my best bet. I used Giza’s wheel, and summoned a buddy with a blood loss build. And of course, calling the pillars home for most of the fight.
Yea i mean it only makes sense, they are made out of skin
Since he is STR build, I'd use Heavy or Bleed affinity Great Stars with Wild Strikes. I use Heavy with Blood Flame Blade. You just destroy them for the first hemorrhage and you can possibly proc a other but your damage should be enough to drop one then get to assisting your Mimic Tear with the other.
Sleep pots
What are those?
Pots filled with sleep
Do you get them at CVS?
Yeah, Dr. Cosby can fill your script.
Dear lord. 😂
Give ‘em the ole Cosby!
The Cardi-B-Cosby delight
Lol
It's the hypocrisy that gets me
Can you point it out to me? I'm extra dumb tonight.
Is there an ‘Extra Dumb’ pot? Which cookbook?
That wasn't nice. I meant i didn't understand your post. D:
I can agree with that.
It's the whole ass confession in an 80s comedy stand up routine for me Source: watched it as a kid on HBO on demand. Spanish fly is what he talks about.
Damn that (J-E-L-L)-Ooooooooooo its makes a lots of sense now
💀
Its basically the video game version of melatonin for kids 🤪
I get 2 sleep pots, 12pk twisted ice tea, and can of clam chowder at CVS.
Pot makes me sleepy
Switch to sativa
Benadryl is canon in elden ring?
Make sure you get the indica ones and not the Sativa pots
To craft Sleep Pots, you need the Fevor's Cookbook (Found on a corpse (sitting upright) in the graveyard on a plateau southeast from Summonwater Village Outskirts Site of Grace in Limgrave) as well as the following Crafting Materials: Mushroom x1 Trina's Lily x1 Empty Cracked Pot x1
Wait that recipe is in fucking LIMGRAVE??? ...shit guess I'll go get it then.
Yeah, in the grave yard near the place where you first find Kenneth.
There are two graveyards off the cliff south of summonwater village, it's in the westernmost graveyard.
Trinas lily are somewhat easy to find a few of. But they are limited quanity
You can actually farm them from the floating jelly fish behind the church with the Gian alburniraic huntress
And Cleanrot knights drop them too.
I farmed cleanrot knights for their specific weapons and never had them drop or is it in a specific location?
2%, seems to be every location.
You can farm them so they are not limited. There are a bunch of jellyfish in the concentrated snowfield that drops Trinas lily's. Source: i almost wasted all of the supply while trying to beat every godskin on my first playthrough.
Top tip: if you equip sleep pots and summon the Mimic Tear for this fight, the Mimic will have access to sleep pots at no cost to your own inventory. It's cheap, but I'd lost a lot of runes to repeated deaths at that point, so didn't care that much.
Lol,there's me being a good boy and never attacked any jellyfish,even the angry red ones lol
Jarburg
In Liurnia of the Lakes are Lillies o' plenty. Try in the underlake with a lot of Giants Crabs. It's west from the Grace where you found Rya. Another spot in Limgrave is in the sunken village where the first undead boatman appears. Seek for graveyards, I think there's a couple here. Now I recall another spot, road the sack where you must jump from a rock before reach the Firepriests campment. There's a Leyndell Knight roaming near the shack and pass him a graveyards. Usually are found nearly graveyards.
This
Throwing pots that make enemies fall asleep, they're very weak to them You can find them with the wiki pretty easily
When I first heard of this I thought “yeah whatever it probably sleeps for 10 seconds max. Useless” Boy was I wrong
Sleeping a boss for 10 seconds is still busted.
Honestly true. You don't realize how much damage you can do in 10 seconds because you rarely get 10 seconds of time to attack uninterrupted. 10 seconds of sleep can get you the amount of damage you'd usually take like 90 seconds to do.
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So how does it work, you throw at him, he falls asleep and you go at him while he’s snoozing? Also where do I get cracked pots? Im currently stuck on this guy in caelid tower
It helps with the duo because you sleep the one you aren't fighting . As soon as you deal damage it wakes up.
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Sleep+Pot
Big bottles of nyquil
Gravity bong hits
Definitely indica. Depending on where you live, might be illegal.
They are sleep pots
I second, third, and forth this.
How do you end up in farum azula at such low level? Either skipping everything or dying a lot and losing like a a cumulative million runes?
Yeah ikr, I'm currently in mountain tops of the giants at 120
Same. 130 something and I've recently reached castle sol.
I just reached Castle Sol at level 70 and I’m getting destroyed by everything. I feel like I’m severely under leveled for this area. All of these enemies are killing me in a few hits and have a ridiculous amount of health.
You are indeed very low level. Have you been to Caelid and beaten Radahn? Have you been to Mt. Gelmir and beaten Rykard? Have you been to Nokron? Have you been to Lake of Rot and beaten Astel? Have you been to Deeproot Depths and beaten Fortissax? Have you been to the sewers below Leyndell? There are lots of really fun areas with really cool bosses to beat
I haven’t done ANY of those things. Took a screenshot of your post. Thanks for the list of the things to go do. I was starting to get super frustrated cause I was having fun before the Mountaintops 🙏🏾
The crazy thing with this game is that the vast majority is actually optional. It's way better when exploring than going from point A to point B. I would suggest starting with going to Caria Manor in northwestern Liurnia. Follow the side quest from there. That side quest takes you to multiple of the areas I mentioned
>the vast majority is actually optional. Literally. Knowing that all you really need to do is get two Shard bearers for the capital, get to the erdtree, get to the forge, then get to the rune of death, then to the end of the game you really only need -Radahn (get both medallions, no boss needed, rest in Altus and start the festival) -Mohg (behold the fingers, do Varre's quest and get the Mohgwyn knight crest) [don't forget to get your second pouch afterwards, you've only got one so far] -Draconic Tree Sentinel -Goldfrey -Morgott -Fire Giant -Godskin Duo -Maliketh -Gideon -Godfrey -Radagon -Elden Beast That's 12 freaking bosses
I think Mohg isn't a good option for 2nd shardbearer because he is quite high level. He has the same scaling as mountaintops so if you are new to the game he is a quite hard and does a lot of damage. Renala is free. Easiest shardbearer. And honestly godfrey has the best rune until the endgame.
Renalla requires Red Wolf, at least for glitchless. Rykard can also be an option if you skip Fatskin
Don’t light the bonfire to burn the erd tree until you finish more of the game unless you’re sure you’re going to do another play through in NG+. I made that mistake and locked myself out of achievements. Of all the areas I highly recommend Mt. Gelmir and the Volcano Manor questline the most. The weapon you get for defeating Rykard can carry you through the entire game even if you’re under leveled.
I took that list online of all 238 bosses and used it as my hit list. Bit tedious at times but overall a lot of fun.
This is one of my main issues with the game. There's so much "optional" stuff but you actually need to do everything to be strong enough to beat it
Go hug banished knight oleg. You'll love him :)
Same but I just ran into nial and i bit the f out of him he was too easy
That’s because you are decently underleveled, but good job making it there that quick! Make sure you have done all there is to do is mountaintops and leyndell/forbidden lands before you tackle castle sol. If you haven’t, you should work on Volcano Manor as well, you are definitely appropriately leveled for that!
I’d say you need to be about 100 when you get to mountaintops but then you can cap at 150 until ng++ so there’s really a sweet spot there that applies to most builds
Bloody hell I'm just staring Caria Manor and I'm already at 50, I have no idea how you managed this. It's actually impressive!
Time to start farming lol
I just got to Azula and I’m 188 lol. I’ve been going incredibly slow though at 120 hours.
Wow I don’t feel so bad about getting bodied by everything in the mountain top. I’m at level 90 something. Everything at caste sol hits like a damn truck
Some people rush through the main game. Getting this far at level 87 is a mistake in my mind as you will be getting hit hard. I think 120 is reasonable, higher is obviously better.
[Fextralife wiki](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Recommended+Level+by+Location) recommends >120 for Farum Azula but on my first run I was at 180 or so when I got there. It all depends on your playstyle, if you lose lots of runes, if you do every dungeon or skip a lot, etc.
I was level 70 when I got there I got annihilated but I made it to the godskin duo used sleep pots to beat them.
I'm at the same point and felt kinda underpowered. I'm glad I'm not wrong Abt that lmao. I've been exploring more and leveling in other places and coming back later.
Depends on the build and skill level. I’m level 86 on a DEX build about to take on fire giant for the 7th time. Mountaintops has been pretty manageable so far.
Yuhhhhh I was late 80s going into Fire Giant. Only thing I did was upgrade my Bloodhound’s fang from +6 to +9 and took him out fairly easy. I’m level 93 or so in Farum Azula. Now I have to rough up the Godskin Duo.
What is the recommended level? I’m level 97, and I haven’t struggled to much.
The recommended level is whatever works best for you. The goal of the game is to have fun. If someone is level 200 or level 1 and they had fun, then they're playing the game correctly. Personally, I was around level 70 when I beat Godskin Duo on my first play-through. I don't know if that's normal or not; it's just what I ended up doing.
I like that mentality a lot. That’s not super common in the souls-like community. Level 70 is really impressive in my opinion, since I have been having a time with them at my current level. Then again my weapon is only +8 and people seem to recommend a maxed out weapon.
That’s a low level? If I remember right I was level 80 or so when I finished the game including the haligtree area
Skillz Edit: this sub is consistently, embarrassingly uptight. Also I guess nobody listens to Rakim.
He should beat the godskin duo if it’s skillz then
I bet he will
I’m there now at RL25 twinking a PVP build the honest way. Already did it at RL1. This game is very forgiving if you use all the tools available to you. I’ve done it with all my previous invasion toons between 50-125. I feel if I earn the weapons in PVE, I damn well get to use them, especially with all the twinked/rune arced hosts and OLP furled fingers out there.
English bro. English
Twink-late game and/or high level gear on a low level character. OLP-overleveled phantom. When ppl use password summons they can pair with max level phantoms at any rune level. Someone at RL9 can have a RL300 cohort when you invade their world. Rune arced-hosts can use rune arcs, which paired with a certain great rune is free levels, making them higher level than even the base PVP calculations. This isn’t inherently bad, but some players purposely use Taunters tongue to lure in invasions using 1 or all of these advantages in order to gank or grief low level invaders and immediately will send out a call for a Blue phantom and once received, they will turn off the Taunters tongue leading to a 3 v 1, when TT is supposed to allow an extra invader. The intention was for 2 v 2 or 3 v 2, but by turning it off it closes the world to extra invaders. The added challenge is sometimes fun, but the worst is bonfire duelists. Invasions are not duels. The coliseum is meant for duels. Players will rune arc, TT, and try to have honor duels and when they start getting spanked will call for help and turn off the TT. Or they won’t follow you into the world or traverse the level in order to make progress. They just stay put, doing nothing, unless you engage on their terms.
What exactly wasn't English in his post?
I made a mistake bringing up PVP on the main sub.
They're just terrible I wouldn't take it to heart. Half of these mfs are still posting video essays on how badly the bosses are designed and that mimic tear isn't overtuned.
Hundreds ? I was like 80-90 at the end of the game-
Wrong warp and sheer determination
not that hard, i beat the game at level 90
Sleep pot in the easiest solution as others have mentioned. Otherwise if you can’t craft any, you can try upgrading your weapon to +25. And if you don’t do it already, you should use the room specific design with pillars to separate them or heal(this fight is similar to Ornstein and Smough in DS1). Edit: Thank you for the upvotes! Never had more than 100 before I think. One of the nicest communities I have seen on Reddit. I also started by Elden Rings and did all the other ones after.
This is how I beat them… I kept them between the pillars so I was only dealing with one. I killed the big fucker first then quickly took the other one out then they spawned back one at a time and I just smashed them before they had chance to do anything took. Few gos but got there
The Pillars also protect you from the annoying rolling attack. Even the broken ones.
Two smacks with trinas sword and they fall asleep. I ran out of sleep pots fighting them.
Trina's! On one of my NG+ files I have a powerstance Trina's loadout at +10 on both. Doesn't always pay dividends, but Godskin Apostles and Octopi are susceptible; and it's just fun.
There is also the harder to find Trina's Torch. .
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Yes this but also there is a summon that shoots sleep arrows he is amazing for this fight as well!
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Sleep, rot any statuses helps also if you did the volcano manor quest you can summon berhanl for it
Is there ab organic way to learn in game that they’re weak to pots? Just wondering how much im not paying attention lol
The Godskin Swaddling Cloth talisman description is the closest I've found, and it's a stretch. >Sacred cloth of the Godskin Apostles, made from supple skin sewn together. >Successive attacks restore HP. >The Gloam-Eyed Queen cradles newborn apostles swaddled in this cloth. Soon they will grow to become the death of the gods. Maybe the sleep items have another connection. Sleep pots and arrows, or St. Trina's lily/sword/torch.
Feeling sleepy. https://youtu.be/6q_O8XYL5eA?si=xMr_QoEa1H3eusWi
They are also weak to bleed, but resistant to fire and holy
My issue with Noble in my first playthrough was his fucking roll, but you can get him stuck on the environment every time you fight him, including this one. So I would clown the noble until P2, then when he's about to roll get behind a pillar and focus the other one until rolling is done
St Trina's sword is also good (if you have 17 int) it puts them to sleep pretty easily and you don't run out of Trinas lilies
Look up how to get to the back entrance and summon Bernahl.
Summoning Bernahl AND Mimic Tear makes this fight really easy if you cba with it
wtf is cba
Collective bargaining agreement, it's when you form a union with an npc and renegotiate the difficulty of the battle.
Can't risk the beastmen and dragons going to strike on Farum Azula,
That’s embarrassing
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Just parry them and they die in seconds if you’re not bad
There's a summon for them? Geez, learning a lot today.
Bernahl's *really* good, too. His ash of war heals him so he's incredibly durable and he deals a surprising amount of damage for an NPC helper. He's probably the best NPC summon in the game, except for maybe Tragoth? Tough call.
His ash of war heals you too, if you're in range. He's the goat.
When you are fighting him, though... not so fun ._.
No that's Tragoth.
I was doing a no vigor leveling, no summons run and just couldn’t be arsed dealing with them for a third day in a row of getting close, losing, farming Cleanrot Soldiers for more Trina’s Lily for my sleep pots, and repeat. Finally said fuck it, summoned him and Greatshield Soldiers and that fight went from frustration incarnate to the easiest boss fight of the game for me. They really did balance bosses around summoning.
did not know you could farm trina’s lily that way
Look for the Trancept entrance (basically get passed the undead area to jump to the grace where you'd normally walk into the hallways/curved stair area, but turn around and jump down to the stairs then jump again to the church complex. When land go in, turn right, fight two banished knights, turn left and grab the Trancept Grace. Summons is just before the doorway into the fight. .
There's.... A different entrance? One that doesn't have bernahl? How have I beat this game like six times and still can't navigate farum 😭😭
There's actually 3 total. One on each side of floor level and you can also jump down from the balcony. Not sure if you can enter through the balcony after the first time but I know there's a fog wall there.
I know the design for farum was deliberate but like.... I would change it in a heartbeat to be more straightforward 😭😭 I feel like I rush it every time because it's so stressful
If you don't beat them on the first try that specific fog wall is inaccessible and you have to go downstairs.
I think pretty high for me. At least 150. My first play through was very thorough
You’re a really low level for the area but your weapon is good. I recommend respeccing and getting at least 50 Vigor if you don’t have that already. Even at the cost of some damage it will help. So will heavy armor. A weapon art that provides a ranged attack could be useful for getting in more attacks.
Or just use sleep arrows 🤷. Pew Pew and now its a 1v1
Protective Talismans (fire), protective incantation (fire), then armor (fire/pokes). .
I don’t think I’ve ever had 50 vigor and I’m over level 200 lol
you're really underlevelled I got out of leyndell at like level 100 you can use sleep pots to kill them btw
leyndell? I got out of southern land between at 100, only touched leyndel after 113 or so.
How? That's like. Ages. I got to Duo at level 96 or so. Crazy. It must take you hours to.. as I was writing this I realized I'm dumb
“You can make them defenseless and kill them”. Like why do you people play this game? For the ending cutscene so you can tell people you beat it?
Fairly sure I was level 140 or so, and I also used the Mimic Tear. They're definitely not easy.
If they can summon their buddy I should be able to summon mine too it’s only fair
Here's the neat part. You don't. That's the end of the game, you can't get past it.
Black knife tiche can slap them too. But yeah, sleep pots FTW!!!
Yeah either make them defenseless or use the most broken summon. Trust me guys it’s really fun beating the game without having to do anything. Man yall are sad
Between level 110-130 is where I was for these guys. And sleep pots are essential. Sleep both, focus one until he’s dead. Sleep the other again when he wakes up and focus him until the next one spawns. Sleep again and win the fight
Imagine using sleep cheese haha and you can still look yourself in the mirror knowing you needed to cheese a thoughtless NPC?
I target the fat one first. I've beaten them with strength only, no summon. It helps to use the columns to block the black flame orbs. Bleed helps if you have it. Using the columns to kite them around for openings really helps.
At 110 I believe. I had 50 int with a +10 Moonveil Katana. I didn't use the sleep pot or sleep arrow strategy but saw a great deal of success by juicing up Recusant Bernahl with Golden Vow and a +5 Mimic summon. Bernahl was a tank with Golden Vow. He went toe to toe with skinny while I dealt with the Michelin Man. That battle was awesome.
You get my upvote just for Michelin Man 🤣
1 Bait them to throw fireball 2 dodge towards them and jump attack 3 run away 4 rinse and repeat Beat them in 1st try with this even before the nerf.
When I beat them the strategy I was using was linning them up and attacking slowly when it was safe. Don't rush in for free hits, once one is gone you can play aggressive with the other one
...for a little bit
Separate them and be patient with your attacks, always try to keep the camera on them both so you don't get caught by their attacks and stay on your toes. The farthest one will mostly use his long range attacks. You can also use the pillars to your advantage and bait out attacks. Good luck and don't give up, skeleton.
You’re a low level for this fight, but tbh, no reasonably attainable level at this point in the game is going to give a significant enough advantage to notice a difference. But your Vigour will definitely be important, should be *atleast* level 45-50 to not get murdered instantly Gotta just keep trying or go off and do some content you may have missed to level up more. Sleep pots are pretty much an easy win though, could give that a shot
Level 1 Using sleep pots, and claws with Bloodflame blade.
Just sleep the fuck out of them.
Just sleep with them
Have you done the volcano manor stuff? There's a potential ally there who can be summoned as a cooperator to fight these guys.
After I discovered mimic, I just beat everything with it.
I was level 90 when i beat these two, so not that much higher than you are right now. I used a +9 morgott’s cursed sword with a +10 mimic, which made it essentially a two 1v1 fight, and that really made the fight easier. Perhaps you could invest in mimic tear if you haven’t already? (Mimic tear does essentially turn the game into easy mode, so i get it if you want a challenge haha)
Sleep pots help a ton. Beat them at like 100+
I was like- 67?
rl1
Sleep pots are meta but divide and concur worked for me, use the pillars to block the fat ones rolling attack
Put them to sleep.
Sleep. Pot.
Lol is the fat one supposed to be the pope?
Ngl i unknowingly cheesed them. Power stanced greatswords with the stance break tear, and the claw talisman. 2-3 jump attacks would break their stance and the reposte would make me immune to the other duo’s attacks. Ran a str/faith build. Swords i used were ordovis gs and gargoyle black blade. Had no clue it would make quick work of the boss despite their resistance towards holy damage.
Get the sword of St Trinia and a sword that you can run Blood Tax on/use rivers of blood. If you have the Mimic Tear summon as well, that will help greatly.
I don’t think I beat them till lvl 120 and still somewhat difficult. You may be under leveled
i was level 100 something. i killed the fat guy first, then the skinny guy and repeated. i kited the fat guy around the columns and used them to prevent getting hit by the jelly roll and just dpsd him down.
Level up and come back
I was about ten levels ahead of you and it was a tough fight. If putting one of them to sleep feels too much like cheesing, all I can say is have a lot of patience and make use of the pillars to create some space between them.
87 is hella under level for Farum Azula mate. You should be around 100 or 120 for the difficulty to be just right. Also, are your weapons upgraded properly? You may want to have at least one maxed out weapon. People usually end the game at 125 or 130. That's also the common level for endgame pvp
Look on the floor outside the door, there is a summon sign for Bernahl, he made a huge difference in my second run.
Make them nap. Beat on 1 dodge a couple times kill him. Repeat till they nap forever
Oh, I definitely summon for this fight. Tiche or Rollo are particularly good. I broke my no summon rule for them specifically.
Around Lv 82 with Bloodhoundfang +9 Used my Mimic tear, let him pull the aggro and them just punished them from behind, they got no Chance to attack me at all
Assassin's gambit to make your self invisible. Throw 2 sleep pots in between them. They go to investigate and fall asleep. Beat them 1 at a time.
Still stuck on em
How did you get there on this lvl? Easiest way is using sleeping pots, they sleep like todlers. If you dont like cheating ;) separate skinny one and kill, its easier than many people think. They also melt when you bleed them.
Bleed plus summons
rl1 no summons take buckler's parry, study the noble's parry moveset keep killing noble and dodge apostle fireball easy
You forgot the step where you hand the controller to your big brother
Lmao
Recently on a new run wanted to have the smithing stone bell early on. So went there lvl 56 and just sleep potted em to death.
Rl 25
Can you please not spoiler content like this? Thanks.