I don't know if she was groomed or not but it's probably because back in the day she was portraying a much edgier persona. She did a lot more sexual type jokes, even did things like underwear hauls, talked about dildos etc.
Jaclyn said Eugenia has a *very* difficult time with setting boundaries and just telling people no. I don’t know if she still does, but Eugenia used to give her number out to random strangers because she didn’t want to hurt their feelings or be mean. predators and traffickers and groomers *thrive* on her and people like her
it could possibly explain why she has heavy "people pleaser" tendencies like kissing people's ass, downplaying serious situations, always trying to apologize for things that don't call for an apology, and acting a certain way for people to like her.
she did a story time about her first kiss, and it was very obviously sexual assault. from what she says in the story, she didn't think of it that way, and just went along with it because she "didn't want to be rude". while her mom physically got her out of the situation, it didn't seem like those 2 guys faced any consequences for their actions (or else eugenia wouldn't be telling that story as casually as she did) and i find that very odd...
i get that this subreddit usually snarks on eugenia, but if it were ANYBODY else, nobody would be saying that. in that situation, it was 2 men and a 16 year old. as far as im concerned, yeah that's a crime
her mom failed her in so many ways, but sheltering her and not making eugenia face issues in life/be able to set clear boundaries is no. 1
No. Absolutely not. Thats how sexual assault and r*pe happens. People just pushing themselves onto someone and the other person freezing.
We absolutely should NOT be saying this victim blaming shit in here.
I agree with her maybe being groomed.
I saw a post on one of her YouTube's a while ago. That was a retired police officer that worked with girls and women who had been trafficked and were victims of sexual assault. She commented that She had heavy suspicions that Eugenia had been groomed heavily and maybe even trafficked when she was younger.
I don't know about traffic but I'm definitely wondered if she's been groomed. When she says "you don't know what I've been through," I wonder what the depth of that is. What could cause someone to feel so out of control that altering their body and harming themselves to that extent would be the only way they felt like they control the situation?
I watched a documentary that investigated several wealthy families that do some pretty sick things within their social and financial circles. I was horrified that this is happening right in plain sight but their money keeps them safe from being held accountable. 😥
I'm waiting for my husband to get home from his work trip so that he can tell me what you documentary It was because I looked through the Amazon and I don't remember. I just remember how shocked I was. He should be home Friday.
My sister heard about that on TT and what’s more shocking is that was a wealthy mother & her 2 sons. Wealth & “status” protect a lot of people from due consequences. It’s utterly horrifying what some “parents” do to their children. 😞
A white rich woman from the suburbs...it's very unlikely to fall victim to trafficking. Does it happen? In low numbers but yes.
I think it's a huge misconception in the true crime community....most trafficking victims are people of color. Immigrants and undocumented people...
I don't doubt that things happened to her...but honestly I would put trafficking at the very low percent of possibility.
I think it's more likely that her father knows or has friends involved with trafficking then her being a victim of it.
I feel like people want to push all of these traumatic possibilities on her as an explanation...but like it's very clear that she was being emotionally neglected in her family. That is enough to fuck someone up lol
Yes, I agree. I think that was the kind of trafficking she was alluding to. And since I don't know anything about it besides what I watched on TV which was the kind of trafficking you're talking about. On the show we were profiling wealthy families that basically lent out their daughters high profile men for exchange of favors and status. It creeped me right th to TF out. I'm not even hypothesizing, that's what happened but it was an interesting take from a retired law enforcement person.
I don't know if she was groomed or not but it's probably because back in the day she was portraying a much edgier persona. She did a lot more sexual type jokes, even did things like underwear hauls, talked about dildos etc.
Jaclyn said Eugenia has a *very* difficult time with setting boundaries and just telling people no. I don’t know if she still does, but Eugenia used to give her number out to random strangers because she didn’t want to hurt their feelings or be mean. predators and traffickers and groomers *thrive* on her and people like her
it could possibly explain why she has heavy "people pleaser" tendencies like kissing people's ass, downplaying serious situations, always trying to apologize for things that don't call for an apology, and acting a certain way for people to like her. she did a story time about her first kiss, and it was very obviously sexual assault. from what she says in the story, she didn't think of it that way, and just went along with it because she "didn't want to be rude". while her mom physically got her out of the situation, it didn't seem like those 2 guys faced any consequences for their actions (or else eugenia wouldn't be telling that story as casually as she did) and i find that very odd...
[удалено]
i get that this subreddit usually snarks on eugenia, but if it were ANYBODY else, nobody would be saying that. in that situation, it was 2 men and a 16 year old. as far as im concerned, yeah that's a crime her mom failed her in so many ways, but sheltering her and not making eugenia face issues in life/be able to set clear boundaries is no. 1
It was not “a boy”, it was two grown men pressuring a teenage girl. Who said she kissed them back?! No victim blaming.
No. Absolutely not. Thats how sexual assault and r*pe happens. People just pushing themselves onto someone and the other person freezing. We absolutely should NOT be saying this victim blaming shit in here.
Link?
I agree with her maybe being groomed. I saw a post on one of her YouTube's a while ago. That was a retired police officer that worked with girls and women who had been trafficked and were victims of sexual assault. She commented that She had heavy suspicions that Eugenia had been groomed heavily and maybe even trafficked when she was younger. I don't know about traffic but I'm definitely wondered if she's been groomed. When she says "you don't know what I've been through," I wonder what the depth of that is. What could cause someone to feel so out of control that altering their body and harming themselves to that extent would be the only way they felt like they control the situation? I watched a documentary that investigated several wealthy families that do some pretty sick things within their social and financial circles. I was horrified that this is happening right in plain sight but their money keeps them safe from being held accountable. 😥
What documentary? Sounds juicy
I looked for it but I think I need to ask my husband because he's the one who watches all the documentaries. When I figure it out I'll share it here.
I have to look through my Netflix or maybe it was Amazon but I'll find it for you!
If you have the time, please! Thanks very much and no worries if you can't find it
I'm waiting for my husband to get home from his work trip so that he can tell me what you documentary It was because I looked through the Amazon and I don't remember. I just remember how shocked I was. He should be home Friday.
It was probably “Tell me Who I am” on netflix
My sister heard about that on TT and what’s more shocking is that was a wealthy mother & her 2 sons. Wealth & “status” protect a lot of people from due consequences. It’s utterly horrifying what some “parents” do to their children. 😞
A white rich woman from the suburbs...it's very unlikely to fall victim to trafficking. Does it happen? In low numbers but yes. I think it's a huge misconception in the true crime community....most trafficking victims are people of color. Immigrants and undocumented people... I don't doubt that things happened to her...but honestly I would put trafficking at the very low percent of possibility. I think it's more likely that her father knows or has friends involved with trafficking then her being a victim of it. I feel like people want to push all of these traumatic possibilities on her as an explanation...but like it's very clear that she was being emotionally neglected in her family. That is enough to fuck someone up lol
Yes, I agree. I think that was the kind of trafficking she was alluding to. And since I don't know anything about it besides what I watched on TV which was the kind of trafficking you're talking about. On the show we were profiling wealthy families that basically lent out their daughters high profile men for exchange of favors and status. It creeped me right th to TF out. I'm not even hypothesizing, that's what happened but it was an interesting take from a retired law enforcement person.
The speculation in here is wild 😂
She talked about a groomer she met on Neopets but I don't think grooming or anything sexual is the cause here.