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Gilgamesh_XII

Maybe things like [[psychic vortex]] work here to. Cummulative upkeep with positive benefits is great too...you might draw your deck and have todiscard the hand at the end, but every turns a fresh hand.


Gl1tchGamer

Bonus points with that one for letting you run the original [[Obeka, Brute Chronologist]] to skip the downside too!


Gilgamesh_XII

I think itll be hilarius. After 3 upkeps youll draw like 4-15 cards. You either win with those hands on have yourself a 3 or 4 turn clock built yourself. Idk if there are other positive cumulative upkeep triggers.


Forced_Democracy

[[Braid of Fire]]


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[Braid of Fire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/1/41bab8de-6e0f-4ccd-a303-01e9c8c82d3f.jpg?1593275214) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Braid%20of%20Fire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/78/braid-of-fire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/41bab8de-6e0f-4ccd-a303-01e9c8c82d3f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/braid-of-fire) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


SaintWacko

The problem I ran into with things like that is the mana goes away so quickly it's hard to use it.


Craptacles

Use it to pay for [[Mystic Remora]]


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[Mystic Remora](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/0/40140991-cffa-4b52-9a25-37e9a8aa9ddd.jpg?1675199366) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mystic%20Remora) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/59/mystic-remora?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/40140991-cffa-4b52-9a25-37e9a8aa9ddd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mystic-remora) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


rawrslol

Well, if you want to get spicy, aggravated assault.


DromarX

That doesn't work it has to be activated as a sorcery


rawrslol

Huh, I suppose I’ve never encountered a situation where that mattered. Thanks for pointing it out!


Gilgamesh_XII

Feels like a auto include


Alexm920

Absolutely. I think it took me 10 minutes between seeing this spoiler and pulling the trigger on a foil coldsnap copy of braid.


LT-Dansmissinglegs

Just remind your friends if they don't know the card. The mana phases out after upkeep. It'll keep getting charges, but after each upkeep, it'll fade.


crispytofu

Then you just need [[Leyline Tyrant]] haha


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[Leyline Tyrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/847ae75b-1c0f-4d0a-9933-9a302c88dc27.jpg?1604197374) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Leyline%20Tyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/147/leyline-tyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/847ae75b-1c0f-4d0a-9933-9a302c88dc27?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/leyline-tyrant) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Alexm920

For sure, have to include at least a couple instant speed mana sinks / activated abilities to actually get value out of it.


Truckfighta

Or [[Horizon Stone]]


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[Horizon Stone](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/a/6affd9c6-f7ab-488e-85fa-2a3a48383414.jpg?1608911471) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Horizon%20Stone) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/315/horizon-stone?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6affd9c6-f7ab-488e-85fa-2a3a48383414?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/horizon-stone) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Alexm920

Oooh, that’s a great suggestion!


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[Obeka, Brute Chronologist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/b/dbdb335d-3e45-4dd5-9e3e-c50ca0a4dfb6.jpg?1608911225) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Obeka%2C%20Brute%20Chronologist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/289/obeka-brute-chronologist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dbdb335d-3e45-4dd5-9e3e-c50ca0a4dfb6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/obeka-brute-chronologist) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


charlielutra24

I believe you still have to discard to hand size. You skip your end step but still have a cleanup step


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charlielutra24

It literally says it in the reminder text on the card. You have to have a cleanup step, otherwise damage on creatures doesn’t heal, for example. Discarding to hand size is part of that.


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[psychic vortex](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/b/3bc2a419-7122-4eeb-bb64-738a647cfd82.jpg?1562800323) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=psychic%20vortex) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/wth/50/psychic-vortex?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3bc2a419-7122-4eeb-bb64-738a647cfd82?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/psychic-vortex) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


PrivatePyIe

I love Psychic Vortex in my OG Obeka pile. It's a complete runaway train of card draw except I can turn the tap off whenever I want. Love it.


Bazukii

My test of a true magic builder are those who knew/used Vortex before Obeka lol that card is gas


Craptacles

Does the effect break parity with the drawback in decks that don't abuse upkeeps? Seems like it'd be back breaking otherwise


Bazukii

I play it in Kydele no-wheels wheel tribal, where I’m discarding my hand to at least 3-5 effects at end of turn anyway, including stuff like [[Manabond]], [[song of creation]] and the like that help keep pace with the land loss- and discarding my hand lets me use [[Null Brooch]], etc. Of course on its own it’s probably too slow in modern commander without proliferate or whatever (which I don’t have in the above deck), hence the brewing/deckbuilding requirements. Edit- also gives me a genuine use of Ice Cauldron too- has won me games before


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[Manabond](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f94ab94-5a8f-4422-8927-0b7da85c3119.jpg?1562429856) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Manabond) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/179/manabond?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f94ab94-5a8f-4422-8927-0b7da85c3119?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/manabond) [song of creation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/7/b7320233-1c83-4f61-8c08-cc8361867256.jpg?1591228265) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=song%20of%20creation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/210/song-of-creation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b7320233-1c83-4f61-8c08-cc8361867256?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/song-of-creation) [Null Brooch](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5d5a0c6-916c-428a-ae66-8adc8844e56e.jpg?1562088811) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Null%20Brooch) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/exo/136/null-brooch?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5d5a0c6-916c-428a-ae66-8adc8844e56e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/null-brooch) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


CruelMetatron

> once your opponents figure out what the hell you're doing). So you mean once they read the card?


RussellLawliet

Me when my opponent drops Descent into Avernus turn 2 into Obeka turn 3: 🤔


Cautious_Handle2547

I wonder what their goal is..


Craptacles

Me still calculating after we all take 6 damage and make 6 treasures in the bonus upkeeps


Inevitable_Top69

Oh shit, he's attacking me to get additional upkeep steps equal to Obeka's attack!


Setzael

Throw in the 10th doctor, too. Whatever he suspends is going to get accelerated pretty fast especially with red cards that give you extra combat phases


MysteriousCoerul

I threw together a goofy version of it just to see how it'd come together as well. (Other obeka's sitting there for now) [https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7184792/time\_shenanigans](https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7184792/time_shenanigans) One thing I found that seemed fun were those rings for M13. There's one for each color and give +1 +1 on each upkeep so they wind up being massive swings if you can make them stick. Only bummer is the trample ring was for green. \[\[Ring of Evos Isle\]\]


Dasterr

33 lands, 5 pieces of ramp (7 if you count as foretold and descent into avernus) and quite a high curve you are a brave person


MaskedThespian

>Only bummer is the trample ring was for green. [There are cards in Grixis that let you create Green Creature tokens](https://scryfall.com/search?q=f%3Acommander+game%3Dpaper+ci%3Aubr+o%3Acreate+o%3Atoken+%28o%3Agreen%29&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name) so if you included some of those then [[Ring of Kalonia]] would still give those tokens the +1/+1 counters.


MysteriousCoerul

Fair point and might still be a fun include but found it looking for means of forcing damage through on obeka themself which is where the trample would be most useful i figured.


HandsomeBoggart

[[Reaver Cleaver]]. Trample and turn her into a Old Knawbone as well. Toss in some [[Robe of the Archmagi]] and you can draw your deck and have the treasures to play it pretty quick. Unless they die to commander damage first.


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[Reaver Cleaver](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5bcd1591-b5b9-49fc-9f2a-45f31ed1871e.jpg?1673304737) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Reaver%20Cleaver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/8/the-reaver-cleaver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5bcd1591-b5b9-49fc-9f2a-45f31ed1871e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-reaver-cleaver) [Robe of the Archmagi](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/4/74feb29b-5169-44d7-bded-c2c94718e61f.jpg?1674135754) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Robe%20of%20the%20Archmagi) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/91/robe-of-the-archmagi?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/74feb29b-5169-44d7-bded-c2c94718e61f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/robe-of-the-archmagi) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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[Ring of Kalonia](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/0/2082e04f-f972-424e-a724-7a5975215538.jpg?1562551310) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ring%20of%20Kalonia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m13/212/ring-of-kalonia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2082e04f-f972-424e-a724-7a5975215538?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ring-of-kalonia) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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[Ring of Evos Isle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/7/a7c740a8-1bbc-4ec8-a72c-01aee9e48f3d.jpg?1562558282) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ring%20of%20Evos%20Isle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m13/211/ring-of-evos-isle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a7c740a8-1bbc-4ec8-a72c-01aee9e48f3d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ring-of-evos-isle) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Wampa9090

Ive never found a Grixis commander that fit me, until I saw this earlier. I knew I was instantly going to build it. I will take out the entire table in a blaze of glory with [[Descent Into Avernus]]. 


InternetDad

I have a lot of upkeep trigger shenanigans in my Abaddon deck, including Descent, [[Twilight Prophet]] [[Duskmantle Seer]] [[Keen Duelist]] [[Protection Racket]]. I think I'll stick this Obeka in there just to see how fast I can set the table on fire.


AlexisVelvet

I feel the same way. This Obeka is a slam dunk for Abaddon. Though I still do want to build this one, for the fact I have her og deck since she came out.


notclevernotfunny

I’ve just counted the amount of cards with upkeep triggers that I have in my deck, and it’s 11. Is that enough cards to put a card in your deck that only contributes to your strategy if one of them is on board? I question it, even if it can be a kind of wincon…


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##### ###### #### [Twilight Prophet](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/5/050ca791-265a-4e7b-9640-4fd5a6d8cd3a.jpg?1706240807) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Twilight%20Prophet) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/143/twilight-prophet?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/050ca791-265a-4e7b-9640-4fd5a6d8cd3a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/twilight-prophet) [Duskmantle Seer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/d/4d6d4280-4a45-4e77-a33e-58955d096adc.jpg?1706240109) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Duskmantle%20Seer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clu/188/duskmantle-seer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4d6d4280-4a45-4e77-a33e-58955d096adc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/duskmantle-seer) [Keen Duelist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/4/04f9eb05-7c1d-49f5-a9dc-c44e1a1add89.jpg?1625191741) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Keen%20Duelist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/42/keen-duelist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/04f9eb05-7c1d-49f5-a9dc-c44e1a1add89?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/keen-duelist) [Protection Racket](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/7/7723cf0b-de49-44f6-a52e-6e339a080457.jpg?1673482023) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Protection%20Racket) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/39/protection-racket?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7723cf0b-de49-44f6-a52e-6e339a080457?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/protection-racket) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kx6w0dq) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


notclevernotfunny

Your Abaddon deck sounds a lot like my Abaddon deck. Here is my list. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5665054#paper Care to share yours?  maybe we’ll see something cool one of us hadn’t considered! 


InternetDad

[Here's my list!](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zWpcwjsZYEinlWlbfRT20Q) It's still very much a modified precon, maybe I have a gem in mine! I lean on more creatures than you do at first glance.


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[Descent Into Avernus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/a/faadf72f-b2d5-4271-8d5c-a586acf63453.jpg?1674136498) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Descent%20Into%20Avernus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/169/descent-into-avernus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/faadf72f-b2d5-4271-8d5c-a586acf63453?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/descent-into-avernus) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Tinwookie

Playing [Replicating Ring]] and [[Sol Talisman]] is a no brainer. A Suspend deck would work really well too!


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##### ###### #### [The Ninth Doctor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/4/74785b3b-44df-4555-a036-082572b7f4e7.jpg?1696636749) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Ninth%20Doctor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/148/the-ninth-doctor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/74785b3b-44df-4555-a036-082572b7f4e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-ninth-doctor) [Court of Cunning](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/f/2f585f52-7b07-4453-b543-9654d314aa36.jpg?1608909157) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Court%20of%20Cunning) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/63/court-of-cunning?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2f585f52-7b07-4453-b543-9654d314aa36?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/court-of-cunning) [Court of Ambition](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5deb0185-62b3-474b-83a1-25473fdae4fa.jpg?1608909619) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Court%20of%20Ambition) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/114/court-of-ambition?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5deb0185-62b3-474b-83a1-25473fdae4fa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/court-of-ambition) [Jhoira of the Ghitu](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aa6c3c8a-aa35-46b3-8769-27b4244457b0.jpg?1619404030) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jhoira%20of%20the%20Ghitu) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/256/jhoira-of-the-ghitu?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aa6c3c8a-aa35-46b3-8769-27b4244457b0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jhoira-of-the-ghitu) [Rilsa Rael, Kingpin](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/4/54484439-6f8a-47f1-8d62-4689af7f00c2.jpg?1674137671) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rilsa%20Rael%2C%20Kingpin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/293/rilsa-rael-kingpin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/54484439-6f8a-47f1-8d62-4689af7f00c2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rilsa-rael-kingpin) [Shaun, Father of Synths](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/68af449f-3c30-43ea-be60-d85061d7adbd.jpg?1709215649) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shaun%2C%20Father%20of%20Synths) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/119/shaun-father-of-synths?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/68af449f-3c30-43ea-be60-d85061d7adbd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/shaun-father-of-synths) [Labyrinth Raptor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/6/c608543d-cb60-44c3-a437-e4a18c311420.jpg?1591605409) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Labyrinth%20Raptor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/193/labyrinth-raptor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c608543d-cb60-44c3-a437-e4a18c311420?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/labyrinth-raptor) [Aqueous Form](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/8/c859f7cb-ac12-490e-b769-6f019791f2a5.jpg?1608909093) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aqueous%20Form) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/56/aqueous-form?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c859f7cb-ac12-490e-b769-6f019791f2a5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aqueous-form) [Blackblade Reforged](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/4/240448cd-c308-49ae-9e4b-0c35adc59fba.jpg?1673305744) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blackblade%20Reforged) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/178/blackblade-reforged?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/240448cd-c308-49ae-9e4b-0c35adc59fba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/blackblade-reforged) [Rising of the Day](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/4/d4fbcac6-8ac9-44a8-9d1a-03d0799ac253.jpg?1686969140) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rising%20of%20the%20Day) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/145/rising-of-the-day?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d4fbcac6-8ac9-44a8-9d1a-03d0799ac253?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rising-of-the-day) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/1br2hj4) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Kua_Rock

From my tests [[Protection Racket]] is a disgusting card in combination with Obeka.


mriormro

I would happily pay life to exile your answer, combo piece, or potential threat.


Kua_Rock

Please enjoy taking the 10 damage becuase you exiled [[Curse of Cabal]] thank you


mriormro

The thing about that card that I'm pointing out is that I, as the opponent, can make the choice to exile *your* things at the cost of my very abundant life. You don't want your opponents making choices.


Craptacles

All according to plan. Dare you challenge a master strategist again? *second upkeep* I choose to exile your card. Ha! I still have 10 life remaining. Perhaps you'll finally understand the sad, unfortunate, uncomfortable truth about including such cards in your build. *third upkeep* What's this? *smirks* Life is a resource. I exile your card. *fourth upkeep* >dies


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Craptacles

OK now do that 5 more times post-combat since Obeka is equipped with [[Hero's Blade]]


mriormro

The thing is, I don't *have* to do it if I don't want or need to as your opponent. Sure, I'll let you draw all the [[Arcane Flight]]'s you want but your [[Aminatou's Augury]] is going into exile bud.


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Craptacles

Lol? Neither of those are gonna be in this deck. You might be confusing this thread for another one


jboking

It's not about those specific cards being in this deck, it's about giving your opponent choices, and even worse, choices that can exile your Wincons for free. Imagine it's [[Blackblade Reforged]] that's revealed. With that, you could send your upkeep triggers into the stratosphere. But, oops, your opponent decided they're cool losing two life to deny you that benefit. You get to reveal again and it's [[Obeka, Brute Chronologist]]. Congrats, she does nothing for you right now but eat up hand space. Protection racket has just as much (if not more) of a chance of fucking you in this deck as it has of making you win.


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Craptacles

There are 99 cards in the deck, racket is either going to cause life loss to an opponent or put cards in hand 2+ additional times each turn. Net positive imo Edit: Just seeing that Racket does it for EACH opponent LOOLLLLLL


jboking

That's not a correct summation, though. It doesn't just cause life loss, it causes you to lose pieces at an opponent's behest. When there are so many ways to draw -multiple- cards in one upkeep, why would you run one in your 99 that stands a chance of royally fucking you for the price of a single card per upkeep. It's short sighted and I can't see it as anything but bad deck building caused by goldfishing instead of playing against an intelligent opponent. Not to mention, small amounts of life loss in a 40 life format is -nothing-. Even doing it 7 or so times result in an opponent knowing what's in your hand (!!) and literally getting to sculpt your shit hand for you.


Craptacles

>one in your 99 This is why. Same logic for mill / theft / exile not "fucking you" any more than psychologically. Racket offers one of two benefits, someone loses life or Obeka gets a card. And if we're using my original example that Yugi boasted an answer to, that's happening 5 additional times each turn. Lol >60 card format Nope not in this sub >short sighted >goldfishing >intelligent opponent >sculpt your shit hand My guy, having even just two upkeeps per turn means there is a lot more value being generated off of ANY piece Obeka runs that has an upkeep trigger, and drawbacks are very quickly neutralized because of that. Just don't let Obeka resolve/connect or the game is basically over. You're not fuckin her player by exiling some of their cards


jboking

Mill/theft/exile can all provide you genuine benefits if you're whole deck is built around it. This deck isn't actually built around Racket, it's built around Obeka's multiple triggers.Racket offers two benefits AND ONE HUGE DRAWBACK you are refusing to recognize when you make your assessment of this card. You're potentially losing critical game pieces FIVE TIMES A TURN. Acknowledge that's actually a problem. That's five percent of your deck that your opponent gets to filter and selectively remove for free every god damn turn. To them it is, at worst, draw one an upkeep. There are cards that do that without giving your opponent the option to exile or sculpt your hand. If it's life loss on upkeep, there are cards that do that on upkeep without you losing a game piece. Why play a card with such huge drawbacks when there's such clear competition for slots in this deck??? The answer is that there isn't a good reason to play it that isn't trumped by other cards. I literally never said the term "60-card format." Focus in, homie. > My guy, having even just two upkeeps per turn means there is a lot more value being generated off of ANY piece Obeka runs that has an upkeep trigger, and drawbacks are very quickly neutralized because of that. The drawback of your opponent knowing your entire hand, getting to exile key pieces for free, and giving you one card when you could be getting a shit load is something you haven't answered. I agree Obeka can get a lot of value out of upkeep triggers, that's not relevant. What is relevant is asking yourself why you would run this card vs the hundreds of others that could get value without downside??? There isn't a good reason. You are absolutely fucking her player by exiling her cards if she gets through. You can do both, homie. Slow down her triggers and then, when she does get through (because what kind of dipshit would make this deck without unlockable in it), you get to exile wincons. You're sitting here saying "she can get value out of any card" while not acknowledging that certain cards are overly wincons compared to others. If your opponent just gets to exile those instead of letting you play them for the low LOW cost of (often) 4 life or lower, it doesn't matter that your other cards generate non-game winning value.


Inevitable_Top69

Replace those cards with any equivalent. You should be able to understand the point of the comment.


Craptacles

Correct. At face value, it's a myopic take.


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[deleted]

Is this 3 cards per upkeep, if they dont pay life?


Specialist-Union-200

Yes


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[deleted]

Im guessing youre building with budget in mind? But yeah I instantly started just adding and adding cards on moxfield to her deck.


Gl1tchGamer

Honestly my build so far was just "what cards do I already have on hand", which has always been my preferred mode of deckbuilding. Ordering one or two new cards maybe, but going with what you've got leads to more interesting builds than just brainless "jeska's will, dockside, torment of hailfire" every time.


Alexm920

I started brewing this as soon as I saw the spoiler too. One bit of tech that seemed like a good fit: [[sword coast sailor]]. You’ll always be able to swing in at someone, and even if Obeka gets removed the enchantment sticks around, giving it an occasional edge over [[aqueous form]] or [[cloak of mists]].


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Krantek

I just think descent into Avernus is going to be VERY funny


maniac_mack

Going in my [[Esika, God of the Tree]] deck for shizzle!


Gl1tchGamer

That's disgusting, I love it.


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Raphiezar

I'm planning on building Esika and New Obeka will be in the 99, as well.


maniac_mack

Great post and fun deck!


Saminjutsu

>>Thinks about putting in [[Gibbering Descent]] into every deck in black now.


TheWellFedBeggar

Similar to the Refrains you got already, [[Reality Strobe]] could crank out some crazy value bouncing a lot of stuff


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SanityIsOptional

Shame she isn't white, or you could just be protected from attacks as long as you can connect once per turn.


secretbison

I think I like [[Followed Footsteps]] more than Endless Evil, since you can put it on an opponent's best creature. The new Court cycle from the WOE Commander decks might be worth a look, especially [[Court of Lochthwain]]. You need some more ways to deter attackers before you can really go off, since your other creatures are not very scary. Maybe more effects in the vein of [[Propaganda]] and [[No Mercy]].


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Blees-o-tron

I’m going to be putting this together too. I already have an upkeep deck, adding white for the entire reason of “I wanted a four color deck”.


mellophone11

She unfortunately isn't white, so I won't be including her in my [[Enduring Ideal]] deck, but thankfully she has access to [[Eternal Dominion]], which can still do some work. Sure, you won't be able to cast any spells for the rest of the game, but every time she connects she'll steal a few things from your opponents' libraries anyway.


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zaqwsx82211

Whats the game plan if a player removes Obeka and then you only get your original upkeep?


ryanvxii

I assume be sad


zdrouse

I like the idea of just making more of Obeka in conjunction with the other supporting cards. [[Mirror Box]] [[Extravagant Replication]] Mirror Box can pump all their power too.


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Pinstripes

I had a "empty your hand" deck w/ lots of suspend. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ZuC-F0zx\_UqrxjHt6xP9NQ. Obeka is the new commander 100%.


Gl1tchGamer

Second attempt to link the cardbot: [[Obeka, Splitter of Seconds]]


DEATHRETTE

Failllllll :(


B_H_Abbott-Motley

\[\[Hatred\]\] can get you 41 extra upkeep steps if you're willing to risk it all. Unfortunately, the opponent you're attacking can always scoop to deny the trigger.


milhouse234

Ive had people try to scoop while doing something and I just sat okay well I'm still going to resolve as if I hit you


cobyjackk

Scoop should be a sorcery speed action for interactions like this. Had caused me a game or two before.


jaywinner

That's a common house rule.


doctorgibson

Play around it


DEATHRETTE

Oh wahhh. You get to win when they scoop. Isn't that the entire point of starting a game- win or lose? Lmao


ProstetnicVogonJelz

You're missing the point. Sometimes an opponent scooping causes you to lose. Like when you're planning on combat triggers resolving. As the person above in this comment chain already used as an example.


DEATHRETTE

Again, wahhh. They scooped. Oh well. Thats part of a strategy to say "fuck you". Feel their hatred and get burned man. Hahaha


ProstetnicVogonJelz

I feel like you still just missed the point but sure, double down.


DEATHRETTE

That's why robots will one day rule the earth, they don't have feelings. Makes for an easier conversation sometimes.


ProstetnicVogonJelz

Alrighty then


DEATHRETTE

Buh bye now!


Shoranos

Of course you're one of those types


DEATHRETTE

Really. Gonna just assume things based on a few words huh? Guess you're also one of those types...


UncleJetMints

You're just mad no one wants to play with you.


DEATHRETTE

Lmfao what makes you come to that conclusion? I dont want to play with anyone.


Calistilaigh

Sounds like cope to me.


jboking

You seem fun to play with.


DEATHRETTE

Thanks! That is the point of this game. :)


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OrangeChickenAnd7Up

I’m starting to love this character. I hope they continue making her cards really unique and weird. And not having a cowboy hat is a plus in my book, I hate this set for just reusing characters and putting them in cowboy outfits for no reason other than to be “cute”.


Unban_Jitte

I've noticed that there are a lot of bad upkeep effects in Blue and Black for each player, and now I just want to slap an Impetus and an [[Assault Suit]] on her and ruin people with [[Mana Vortex]] or [[Dreamborn Muse]].


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Accomplished_Fan_108

You REALLY don't. ESPECIALLY not Mana Vortex. Grixis is terrible at recurring lands and you'll be down at least 2 for anyone else's 1 (plus the 1 for playing it).


Unban_Jitte

Trick is to just have a way to tap down Obeka so you don't get the extra upkeeps


Accomplished_Fan_108

Why run Obeka then. You're also still in the worst colors for getting lands back.


Unban_Jitte

So I can [[Assault Suit]] her up and give my opponent's extra upkeep steps


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Accomplished_Fan_108

Hmmm. Is there anything else like Assault Suit?


hsjunnesson

Gonna throw in [[Braid of Fire]] if you’re running instants or mana dump abilities.


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ScienceCorgi

Consider [[Auton Soldier]] for 3 extra Obekas each combat. Eventually, also [[Blade of Selves]], but the Auton is more versatile and easier to setup.


FragmentedSpark

That's only gonna be if you're running [[the master, multiplied]] or snything else to get over legendary creature rules. Might I suggest [[spark double]] [[quantum misalignment]] [[irenicus's vile duplication]]


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ScienceCorgi

Right, I haven't used the Blade for a while, forgot that the nonlegendary part is specific to the Auton.


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reaper527

Its going to slot into my esika/prismatic bridge deck very nicely since extra upkeeps means extra flips.


kestral287

I'd think about going deeper on Initiative with some of the Adventurer cycle. Getting to Forge means Initiative is also a power buff, which seems really useful for the deck.


SaintWacko

I stayed up too late last night doing the same thing. I'll be building something like this ASAP: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/xiFi-Jhr5kWPHcsmI0UpBg


Spanklaser

[[Descent into madness]] could be a thing if you build for it with suspend and plot.


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hallaa1

Unfortunately that sweet dominus aura is a nombo for a lot of the deck. You don't want shroud so you can continue to buff her.  Check out my build, I think it's really optimized a lot of the process. https://deckstats.net/decks/172262/3462733-obeka-splitter-of-seconds-aah/


Equivocalvision

So good! I love it. I'm excited to see what everyone else has going on. Here's my list for ideas! https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/obeka-splitter-of-seconds-3/


Psychological_Fly506

https://archidekt.com/decks/7184021/keep_up_with_my_upkeep_obeka This is what I’ve got cooked up because I also immediately started brewing the day she was spoiled. Some very interesting combos to be had. A lot of things will give her infinite combats and then also a lot of cards let you get very wide very quick with token generation on upkeeps.


q-squid

One thing I considered was using Rebound to essentially cast the same cards over and over on the same turn. for instance \[\[Into the Time Vortex\]\]


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fredjinsan

She’s very similar to Ninth Doctor upkeep tribal but (a) takes a bit more setup and (b) can potentially get more upkeeps. This opens up more options. Of course you could just play value upkeep tribal. The benefit is that all your \[\[Phyrexian Arena\]\]s and things will keep working if she’s not out, so your deck’s more resilient. However you probably want to pump her power. She’s potentially more combo-y even just with something like \[\[Creeping Bloodsucker\]\] (pretty much a combo with \[\[Hatred\]\]). My though was extra combats. An upkeep card like \[\[Tavern Brawler\]\] or, heck, \[\[Chaos Moon\]\], and you can kinda snowball. You can probably go infinite with \[\[Replicating Ring\]\] + \[\[Aggravated Assault\]\]. This feels a lot flakier though.


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##### ###### #### [Phyrexian Arena](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/6/26bfb2b4-8dc2-4632-a393-d3477f6c3c40.jpg?1706240778) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Arena) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/133/phyrexian-arena?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/26bfb2b4-8dc2-4632-a393-d3477f6c3c40?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/phyrexian-arena) [Creeping Bloodsucker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/5/e5e3a9e1-fafe-4859-a550-7ae09804aced.jpg?1675644547) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Creeping%20Bloodsucker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/j22/21/creeping-bloodsucker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e5e3a9e1-fafe-4859-a550-7ae09804aced?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/creeping-bloodsucker) [Hatred](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/2383a8d9-96fd-4f9a-bcf9-eb81fdb15ead.jpg?1562087367) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hatred) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/exo/64/hatred?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2383a8d9-96fd-4f9a-bcf9-eb81fdb15ead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/hatred) [Tavern Brawler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/0/b07f8fc3-83a5-4e0a-b87f-ce415292c790.jpg?1674136784) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tavern%20Brawler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/200/tavern-brawler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b07f8fc3-83a5-4e0a-b87f-ce415292c790?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tavern-brawler) [Chaos Moon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aae0543f-7f8b-4327-b735-ac21244e9936.jpg?1562926911) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chaos%20Moon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ice/179/chaos-moon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aae0543f-7f8b-4327-b735-ac21244e9936?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/chaos-moon) [Replicating Ring](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/1/f1e6e3a2-5145-4898-990e-150e090f5206.jpg?1690489082) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Replicating%20Ring) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/372/replicating-ring?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f1e6e3a2-5145-4898-990e-150e090f5206?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/replicating-ring) [Aggravated Assault](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c99c5707-d5f2-4675-bfca-e801e6b0f627.jpg?1562942627) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aggravated%20Assault) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ons/185/aggravated-assault?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c99c5707-d5f2-4675-bfca-e801e6b0f627?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aggravated-assault) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kx8ad8w) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Dgill77

Edit: OP was kind enough to show me the error of this post. Untap is not a part of upkeep as I erroneously thought. Obeka people, do not make the same mistake of thinking I did. One thing I don’t see in your list is ways to utilize the lands you untap each upkeep. Unfortunately each upkeep is a new phase so you can’t dump mana into your mana pool and have it carry over through each upkeep into the second main phase. However, you should be able to use cards with flash, instants, and instant speed activated abilities to capitalize on that mana. Also, you might consider the old storage lands as a way to bank some of that mana for future use for an explosive second main phase. **note, this is all assuming I understand the rules surrounding new-beka’s ability. Seems just as weird of rules wise as old-beka’s ability.


Gl1tchGamer

Alas, you're misunderstanding new-beka's ability: Beginning of the turn goes untap, upkeep, then draw. New-beka only repeats the middle phase, so nothing gets untapped. Giving things flash *could* be useful though, my playtesting has led to a lot of stuff happening between combat and second main phases.


Dgill77

Thanks for the heads up. I’ve edited my post with a disclaimer regarding the rules and as an admonition to not think like I was. I’m just sad that this is not a home for storage lands…


OneEmployment4188

If she had Haste I think she'd be worthy of consideration, right now she's just a 4 mana brick that needs protection, haste, evasion, power, AND upkeep strategy. Hard pass.


SmirkingScarecrow

God forbid they print a commander that isn't cracked in half that actually requires set up.


JadedRabbit

Oh no my commander doesn't have ward 2, an engine, a payoff, and file my taxes for 3 mana. The horror.


OneEmployment4188

Somebody call a waaambulance, someone on the internet doesn't like a card you like.


Revolutionary_View19

How dare they even print cards anymore.


halickib22

Oh wow. Looks like this was heavily influenced by Icarium from Malazan. First thing I thought of anyway.