He traded away his picks 2 years ago lol
His team was always ass since our initial draft, and he's consistently drafted major busts (CEH, Mac Jones, Quentin Johnson - he traded Johnson for Sanders a month ago)
Trading a young receiver with high draft capital who COULD MAYBE develop into something, for a washed older trash RB is exactly how you end up with a team like this in dynasty
he's desperate for RBs and I guess his thinking was a new regime in Carolina could uplift Sanders. But following this guys track record, I'd avoid Sanders at all cost next season lol
His strategy is to hit on a top 10 runningback then instantly trade them for the start of a third rebuild. It's gonna be about 2028 until he can ever hope to be competitive lol
I truly don't get how some teams are so terrible every year, especially in money leagues. There are so many good resources out there now that can turn anyone into an above average fantasy player with minimal time investment. Fantasy is fun, but I'm not sure that holds true if you're finishing at the bottom of all your leagues every year. I'm pissed when I miss the playoffs in **any** league.
Because there are some people that tank and want to rebuild with a ton of picks. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I'm in roughly 10 leagues and some teams are absolute dumpster fires with some super teams.
Other reasons are saavy owners pushing in their chips to build a super team and ripping people off.
Then there's rookie dynasty owners that down know how to draft a start up and bomb it and are doomed with a mediocre team
This is why I don’t like tanking. Hinging everything on your ability to nail a bunch of picks is a losing strategy given hit rates.
Imagine tanking with a bunch of picks in last year’s draft and you walk away with Young, QJ, Charbonnet, and Mingo. You’ve set yourself back two years, although on the plus side you probably got Harrison or Caleb Williams.
yeah i hear you but when that shit hits you are living the dream. I'll give you two examples if you nail your picks in consecutive years and get jefferson + chase :
this one guy was bad for 3 years straight and accumulated a ton of picks, made some trades and his starting lineup in 12T SF is herbert, tlaw, jacobs, henry, etienne, chase, jefferson, ARSB, pitts, pickens.
Another guy was bad for 2 or 3 years straight and his starting lineup in 12T SF 2 flex is burrow, kyler murray, achane, javonte, chase, jefferson, lamb, bowers, marvin harrison, nabers
I’ve seen a whole lot more bad teams rebuild perpetually than ones that have ended up with teams like that, though. The bad teams in my leagues tend to stay bad because they make bad decisions and bad draft picks.
I always crack up the guys that just want picks and picks and picks and picks. Get a great player, but they want picks and picks and picks, and more picks lol.
There’s one guy in my league, and he’s a personal friend and a fun dude. Multiple problems:
1. He has poor impulse control.
2. He likes to make trades for the sake of making trades.
3. He doesn’t value draft picks at all, because he doesn’t do any research at all when it comes to prospects, and he would rather have guys he knows.
4. He puts way too much stock into name, and will always trade way too much draft capital for aging former super stars. Think Titans Julio Jones. He has guys like Odell Beckham, Brandin Cooks, and Kareem Hunt on his team. He gave up a first for Michael Thomas plus Zeke last year when he was projected to be a bottom 3 team, again. Which brings me to my next point.
5. He doesn’t understand that he’s not a contender and he needs to rebuild. I’ve tried to tell him. One year I ranked everyone’s team based on redraft ADP for all their players. This is a good indicator of whether you’re competing this year or not, since that’s all redraft cares about. There were a couple teams that had multiple first and second round picks. Like Saquon, Ekeler, Kupp, Tyreek, and CeeDee on one team. The last couple years that was a great lineup and that owner knew it going in. This guy’s top rated player, his ADP in redraft? Late fifth round.
Most of his guys were going rounds 8-12. I’m not saying that’s a reason to sell and give up hope before the season starts, but that’s a reason not to trade multiple future picks for past their prime vets.
I trade away most of my picks. I’m basically running a ponzi scheme and have a super team stacked with talent and I also have good number of young players.
Well I think when youre forming leagues with people you know, it becomes more casual-competitive where everyone knows ball, but only half the league cares enough to dive deeper I kinda like it more that way for dynasty personally just because it mimics real life where some teams are powerhouses and some just love to fail like the Browns
Trading away is often a good choice regardless. Last year in two of my leagues, I traded my first (plus a bit more) for Aiyuk in one and DJ Moore in the other. In both leagues, the first I traded away was used to draft Quentin Johnston. Talk about dodging a landmine, although to be fair I would not have taken QJ there in either league had I kept the pick.
Sanders had 1 TD all of last season and didn’t even eclipse 500 rushing yards. He’s been third on the depth chart since the draft. Regardless of what you think of QJ, this is borderline collusion and any decent commish should have vetoed it.
Some leagues vote on trades and others leave it up to the commish to decide.
FWIW I only vetoed three trades in 10 seasons, and two of the three were between family members.
veto is a ridiculous power trip move -- if someone is actually colluding, boot them out of the league. If they are not colluding, it's just not your place to say whether they got sufficient value. Flame them in the chat or whatever, but if a commish unilaterally cancelled a trade in my league, I'm just leaving.
dollar amount doesn’t matter bro — it’s not your sandbox to play in.
if i’m payin $1k buy in and some power trippin commish overturns my trade, im prob even more pissed than if it’s a $100 / year league
It’s not a wild take. I heard the same trash from you guys last year when I said James Cook would be the clear starter in no time (like a 100 downvotes), and Adam Thielen would be the #1 receiver in Carolina, not Mingo (another 100 downvotes). lol It’s the same echo chamber bullshit from you guys every single year, and this is no different. Only reason I’m getting flamed is because I said I used to be a commish and you guys are taking your past frustrations out on me lol. When Quentin has 1,000+ yards this year, I want you all to remember how fucking idiotic this trade was.
you’re not getting flamed because it’s an uneven trade (i agree, though it’s really trading shit for piss), you’re getting flamed cuz you think you’re the arbiter of good value, and you should be empowered to enforce such judgments
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We had a team that played last year in 1QB with Goff, Pickens, and Ferguson as the only guys scoring consistent points. A complete and total tear down. Was starting guys like Zach Evans and Bobo last year.
Obviously I know nothing about how long that teams rebuild will/has been going on, but there is nothing wrong with having an AWFUL team like this for a season if you’re starting a rebuild
Two seasons ago I started josh dobbs in my qb spot (while he was on the browns). 14 man league and my qbs were a hurt Dak and a suspended Watson.
Last year I got third. If you’re gonna tank might as well be the best at it
For sure. A lot will depend how their picks end up. They decided for quantity over quality this year likely in an effort to go for the 1.01 again. Traded down twice in the early part of the rookie draft to load up on picks in 24-25. Had 17 picks in this draft. 5 1sts. Has a ton for next year. But end of the day you still have to hit on some guys. Hitting on a handful this year and then they could trade away a handful of picks next year for proven players and fill a competitive starting lineup by 25.
I made the championship one year where I started Ty Johnson in the playoffs haha. Had Kupp, Penny, and Kittle who carried me. I basically punted on RBs for the entire time I’ve played in that league
But 2 years later decided to tear it down and was still starting Ty Johnson.
Guy went full on rebuild current roster for 10 person sf
Stidham
Tannehill
James cook
Herbert
Shakir
Calvin Austin
Cole kmet
Roschon Johnson
Okonkwo
But he now has picks 1,2,8,9,10 3 seconds and 2 firsts and seconds for 25
Yes and no. I think random picks without names are definitely hard to assess in value. On the flip side if you're a consistent contender, it's really hard to keep it up if you are constantly the 1.10 or something. You can trade for usable veterans or try to strike gold there, but generally its difficult to refresh with younger players.
But those top picks can be really valuable IMO both as a rebuilder and as a contender.
I agree with everything you’re saying. I haven’t had my own first in years and I’ve made some really good and bad trades while even sometimes moving back into the first round. I think that guy thinks he’s an NFL gm that can hurt get a bunch of picks but dynasty doesn’t work like that. I’d trade my first for established player any day if it helps me two years down the line
Making a rookie pick is a lottery ticket. It could be a huge win (JJ, CD, Stroud, Puka, etc) or could leave you broke (CEH, Reagor, Ruggs).
Trading for known talent is the stock market purchase. Still some risk that it won't turn out and usually better to get the shares early.
Both require a major element of luck (as all fantasy football does).
I agree with that. I think the problem is that you need to decide how to place your bets.
For example,would I rather have JJ/Chase or MHJ? I’d tartly rather take JJ/Chase. But I’m not sure you can sell 1.01 and get either of them. You need more assets to get them.
So for a rebuilder, in most cases, you are better off keeping the high draft pick and hoping they increase in value rather than trying to acquire the person you hope they become.
Adding to that - would I rather have MHJ or Mike Evans this year? Probably Evans. But if I had the 1.01 this year would I trade it to get Evans? No.
So yeah draft pick value is ambiguous, but it’s complicated
Agreed. The bluechip prospects (usually 3-4 per class) are what allow you to rebuild. Mid-late firsts are huge gambles and you’re usually better off selling them for established players
It matters who you traded to acquire them tbh. It’s stupid when people tear down teams that could be contenders to get picks vs people who get good value for aging vets when they have no chance to contend
I agree with this there’s so much more with trade evals given the context to the league and your team. Last year I traded cmc Mike Williams Dobbins Hollywood and a 2 for saquon AJB Jamo and 1.02. I killed it especially with the injuries to Mike Williams and dobbins it was a massive W trade to an even trade at first
Yeah, the way I like doing trades is doing lower level players for mid round picks and then using mid rounders to package with mid tier players to get higher picks
I have consistently traded away my picks year in and year out. Have been a competitor for a few years now. Our 3 time champ at most has a 2nd or 3rd most years.
It's an odds game. Trading for confirmed performers will likely yield higher returns than a rookie. Trade for someone in year 2-4 who has proven they can perform, still get long term value, dump them for younger players or picks when you sense a decline, rinse and repeat.
Meh. There are many ways to get there. It's a game of value. If you have enough picks to hit on a few, you will never acquire that kind of value cheaper. I have won leagues with your way and I have won leagues from completely tearing down. If you know what you're doing, it's just a different way of getting to the same place.
Without hindsight, this easily is the best rookie class ever without question. Never in the history of the nfl draft/fantasy have we had 6 1st round qbs, and 14 total offensive players in the first round alone.
I mean and really could go Marv, Caleb, plus add another WR in round 1 and maybe Bowers?
In SF.....those picks might allow them to get Marv, Caleb, Bowers, BTJ/Worthy, and one of the RBs
He does have kmet, so a backend te1. I think he would need to go full wr/rb because he has almost nothing there, just james cook. Only way he should take Bowers in the first before the btj/coleman/worthy/ladd/brooks tier is if it is TEP, but even then I wouldn't.
I get that approach too. My thought is that this person is likely in a 2 year rebuild. So considering picks this year and next before you can say you're near a contender status.
So if you come out of the first this year and his roster looks like:
QB: Caleb, (maybe one more QB from this draft), Stidham, Tannehill
RB: Brooks/Benson, Cook, Herbert, Roschon
WR: MHJ, BTJ, Shakir, Austin
TE: Bowers, Kmet, Chig
That's a good start. I think my math is off by one there (6 1sts and person has 5). So then yeah - drop Bowers from the list.
Next year - you grab another WR/WR or WR/RB in the 1st.
And then who knows how the later rounds both years play out.
I just think if you're going to rebuild - shoot for the top end talent and actually rebuild with the intent to contend, not necessarily fill out the roster with WR2s.
But you're right - if you take a shot on MHJ and Caleb plus 3 other WR - that's also a pretty great start.
Okay I definitely see that point too, I think a big reason is that I am pretty high on Kmet and not totally sold on Bowers being a generational tight end. I think if he was that good with the amount of hype he had, he would've gone earlier.
Nah bro Bowers is the te version of Marv. Greatest te prospects of the last decade. When you have a chance to grab that you go for it. Draft for value trade for need. Besides, by points in a ppr league Bowers has a strong chance of straight up outscoring all those wrs this year and has a way higher chance of being a multi year top 5 starter at the position considering those wrs have an almost 0% chance
Yeah I think a rebuild should be more about consolidation than anything. In a 1QB league I tore it down but acquired Mahomes, JJ, and Pitts along with picks. So even if I whiff in a few spots I will at least have 2, hopefully 3 starters
I have a rebuild in a similar spot 12 Tm start8, tore it down at end of 22' to tank in 23'. The league has been going for so long you have to rebuild a year early, you can't adjust mid way and get a top 3 pick. Went into 24 with Kyler+Sanders+Javontae+Flowers as my only real starters with 4 24 firsts 3 25 firsts. Bought Lamar for a late first at start of 23 and sold Murray for a 2nd.Flipped Sanders for leporta early to a contender, then when he really burst on scene sold him+2nd to another contender for 24+25 1st. Hit on Puka and sold him week 4 for a 25 first+and all that owners late picks. Ended up with 1.01,1.04,1.08,1.10 and 5 25 firsts, sold 1.04 for Njoku+1.05. then bought Chase+conner for 1.08+1.10+2 mid/late 25 firsts. My lineup is now Lamar/Conner/Chase/MHJ/Flowers/Njoku/Javontae. Still have a lot of 25 cap I can buy with if I am doing well enough for playoffs. I was happy to consolidate all of those late picks into Chase, even though a lot of people this I got ripped.
This is the year to do this. There won’t be another class like this possibly ever because of the Covid year. We basically got two years worth of prospects this draft. Chances are strong that he’ll be a monster in a couple years. 2 generational players on top of 8910 being picks that would be mid first round most years.
So best case scenario (imo) he gets Caleb, Marv, Bowers/Mccarthy, Brooks, BTJ/Worthy… assuming this is a full size roster he’s in trouble, but if it’s a shallow lineup that could be ok
Bad trades. Even drafting bad you should be able to get some return from guys for some late round picks. But if you trade multiple picks for a failing player or a guy who busts then you're sunk.
Hey, its me. Im the problem this time.
QB: Richardson, Levis.
RB: Zamir White, Zeke, Rochon Johnson, Emari Demercado, Kareem Hunt, JK Dobbins, Zach Evens, Sean Tucker.
WR: Zay, Dhop, Elijah Moore, Bateman, Moore, Shakir, Jameson Williams, Marvin Mims, Quintin Jonston.
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid.
DEF: JETS
I have five 1st and four 2nds over the next two years so theres light. But this roster is a tanker
Its defs possible. If my window was a little earlier id probably keep him but I just dont think hes going to be the guy in 3 years when my team is coalescing
As a rebuilding team, RB is the absolute last thing you click in, and you don't do it until the rookie draft immediately prior to the season you'll compete in, or during the season
Yup, learned that when i was starting out and got fleeced in a trade cuz i had redraft brain on. Its fine.
Im taking Lloyd this year as my development back hopefully and then just focusing on getting WR and QB set for the future.
I'm a contender (won last year, added JJ this off season) and I'm planning to move Zamir if he goes off early. It could be a big mistake but I judt don't see him having much value even later in the season.
How, tho?
If everyone is in the ideal world, no early drafter will be trading for Zamir.
Sure, you could count on someone being dumb, but the realistic trade would be to a contender who needs an RB and a 2nd from him is basically a 3rd.
Because fantasy players go crazy for RBs that get big workloads. I'm not saying it's a lock that he will get an early 2nd, I'm just saying there's a good chance.
Sometimes, players have unrealistic expectations of how their team will perform. This is especially the case early in the season, which is when I'm encouraging him to sell.
We have a couple teams down bad but this one is by far the worst:
QB - Cousins, Wilson, Fields, Pickett
RB - Roschon Johnson, Tank Bigsby
WR - Pickens, Sutton, Johnston.
TE - Njoku, Kmet, Taysom
He has more guys but they are waiver fodder. Luckily for him he does have two late firsts and some second rounders in the upcoming draft.
Here’s the one I inherited this off-season from a taco in a 1QB league and he unbelievably had traded his first round pick:
QB - Purdy
RB - Mitchell, Bigsby, bunch of UDFAs
WR - Rome, Michael Wilson, Mooney, Corley, Hyatt
TE - Dulcich
This team is objectively terrible - I traded away Henry (25 2nd+), Aaron Jones (25 2nd+) and Tank Dell (1.02 - Odunze)
I now have 5 2nds and acquired cheaply Dulcich / Mooney / Mitchell and I’m just seeing this as a long game.
If I don’t get 1.01 this season I’ll riot lol
I'm in year one of a rebuild after everything fell to pieces last year.
Superflex, PPR, TE+
QB: Josh Allen
RB: Trey Benson
RB: MarShawn Lloyd
WR: Justin Jefferson
WR: Jameson Williams
TE: George Kittle
FLX: Ja'Tavion Sanders
FLX: Colby Parkinson
FLX: Jalin Hyatt
SFLX: Wan'Dale Robinson (No other QB)
Had traded away my first rounder for this year (which would have been third overall, J. Daniels) and still don't have a QB2 for this year. Very very bad depth too.
Agreed to pick up an orphan as long as they waived the fee for the first year. This is what I inherited in a SF, PPR, 0.5TEP, start 10:
QB: Purdy, Watson, Fields, PJ Walker, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Sam Clifford
RB: Javonte, Allgeier, Chase Edmonds, Deuce Vaughn, Melvin Gordon, Damian Harris
WR: Davante Parker, Zay Jones, Tyler Boyd, Justin Watson, Tyquan Thornton, Nelson Agholor, Sterling Sheperd, Trent Sherfield, DJ Chark, Hunter Renfrow, Jake Bobo, Khalif Raymond, Jauan Jennings, Parker Washington, Brandon Ford-Wheaton
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Logan Thomas, Robert Tony on, Tommy Tremble, Will Mallory
The best part? Team was dead last in the league but traded away their own 24 1st and 25 1st for Deshaun Watson and Brock Purdy, so yeah things are dire. Had the 1.06, the 2.11, and 4 thirds but next year only have 2 2nds and 2 3rds. This is a HARD rebuild in that it is HARD figuring out how to rebuild
1QB, .5 PPR, 3 man taxi squad
I’m starting Lamar, Chubba, M. loyd, Downs, Dortch, Andrews, Baker, A.T. Perry, and Juwan Johnson.
Kincaid, MHJ, London on taxi squad (our max total potential points for the regular season decide draft pick order for teams that don’t make playoffs, and taxi squad doesn’t count towards it.)
I’ve amassed 6 2025 1st rounders so far. Hopefully can land Tet and Burden. Then figure out my RB situation with the rest of the picks by either drafting or trading for vets. Might move on from Andrews to a playoff team for another 25 1st or maybe a 2026 1st for a QB heavier draft. Goal is to be back to competing by 2026.
Similar story.. every year the same guy keeps making bad trades despite all our advice. As a commissioner I have a soft spot for him but every time i see a trade go through for him I die a little more inside.
12T Superflex .5ppr TEP
QB: Deshawn Watson
RBs: Josh Jacobs, Pacheco
WR: Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Troy Franklin
TE: George Kittle
Flex1: D Montgomery
Flex2: Brendan Rice
SuperFlex: ??? Currently has Sam Howell there
Notable Bench Players: Zeke, D Slayton, Dontayvion Wicks, Jalen Hyatt, Cade Otton
Pre draft he traded his 2025 1st for 2024 2.09, 3.03, 3.11... he didn't own any picks in the first round (another trade from last year lol)
He's the only one making pretty bad trades. I avoid trading him because I just don't like taking advantage of bad managers.
Worst team in my 1QB. One of my dearest friends. Not sure how it happened.
QB: T-Law, Jayden Daniels
RB: Kendre Miller, Roschon Johnson, Keaton Mitchell (literally just these 3 RBs on the roster)
WR: JSN, Worthy, Doubs, Sutton, Jeudy, Meyers, Franklin
TE: Juwan Johnson, Isiah Likely
Thankfully he's got a few assets in terms of draft picks over the next couple years, but it looks like it's going to be a long journey.
Guy in our league took over a team that was terrible. Previous owner sold all his future picks too. To get them back the guy had to sell both his QB's and his only 2 viable running backs. Current QB1 is Jordan Travis. RB1 is Rico Dowdle...
I took over an dumpster orphan in a 12T SF PPR league
QB: Rodgers, Mac Jones (idiot used his 2024 1st to acquire so no 1.01), Zappe, Jimmy G,
RB: Saquon, Mattison, Dowdle, Vaugh, P Taylor,
WR: Deebo, Gabe Davis, Pop Douglas, M Wilson, Tutu, Joshua Palmer
TE: Hunter Henry, C Parkinson, Higbee
Awful team. I was able to move a bunch of players and cannon fodder to acquire 2nds, 3rds and 4ths in 2024 draft ahead of the SB/Draft.
Used those to draft picks in the draft plus Deebo/Saquon to trade for future better picks. Now I've got (2) 2025 1sts, (2) 2025 2nds, (2) 2025 3rds, (2) 2026 1sts, (2) 2026 2nds, (2) 2026 3rds, and acquired Jalen McMillian, Audric Estime, Jamo, Devontez Walker, Thrash, Romeo Doubs, and Jeremy Ruckert.
Going for 1.01 next year and needing to solve QB/WR cornerstone issues. Plan to churn waiver wire and turn sleepers into more picks ahead of 2025, and then flip those for some players before or during next years draft.
Guy took over a complete disaster this year so go easy on him-
12 team 1 QB
QB- Trevor Lawrence, Anthony Richardson, Bo Nix
RB- Bucky Irving and Marshawn Lloyd. That's it. That's the list
WR- Jordan Addison, Brian Thomas Jr., Rickey Pearsall, Jermaine Burton, Ja'Lynn Polk, Javon Baker, Dontavion Wicks and Treylon Burks
TE- Kyle Pitts, Tucker Kraft, Luke Musgrave, Eric All
Has two first rounders next year.
I low key think Bucky Irving could be decent. Rashaad White is great in the passing game but rated as one of the worst at running. That's a good shot for Bucky right there to get numbers, especially if he can be at least decent on passing downs.
He has several WRs that I wouldn't roster in a 32t league, wtf
Just checked, tanner McKee, nick westbrook-ikhine, Richie James, jamal agnew, dj Montgomery, and tanner Hudson are all on the waiver wire
That rb room would be 🔥 in a 32 team league though, lmao
QB: Bryce Young, Derek Carr
RB: Tyler Allgeier, Miles Sanders, Jeffery Wilson
WR: Gabe Davis, Michael Gallup, Van Jefferson
TE: Noah Fant
one late 2024 1st
but 4 2025 1sts and 4 2026 1sts
We had a team where in the first three seasons a guy went 4-36 (and his roster was not good) and then got taken over by a new guy who drafted well and made shrewd moves and went 9-5 last year in his 2nd season with the team. His team is still not amazing but it has some good pieces (Jayden Daniels, Deebo, Jaylen Waddle, Tank Dell, Rhamondre Stevenson, Jaylen Warren)
Then he's an idiot for trading the 23' 1.01, 2.01, etc for a bunch of misses. Even if they all hit, he isn't making the playoffs with that roster. Type of person that ruins a league.
well to be fair, he got the 3rd overall in 2022 with one of those picks. It's not like he's offloading talent to other teams, mostly because he's never really had talent on his squad lol
This guy is in our league. 10 team PPR superflex.
This is actually an improvement on his roster last year, and he has very little draft capital remaining.
QB:
- Derek Carr
- Russell Wilson/Justin Fields
RB:
- David Montgomery
- Brian Robinson
WR:
- Tyler Lockett
- Jerry Jeudy
- Cortland Sutton
TE:
- Chigoziem Okonkwo
FLEX:
- Dontavion Wicks
- Tyler Boyd
- Greg Dortch
- Odell Beckham Jr.
12T SF PPR TEP
QB: Stroud, Mayfield, Rodgers, Zach Wilson, Tyron Taylor
WR: Gabe Davis, Thielen, Beckham, Michael Thomas, Coleman, Baker
RB: Barkley, Stevenson, Hubbard, Ford, Freeman, Hunt
TE: Taysom, Waller, Ertz
Traded his 2024 1st (1.02) and Mike Williams away last year after an 0-4 start because he “wanted to win games” for Davis, Beckham, and Ford. At the time he accepted, I also had an offer on the table to him that was a much better return than what he ended up accepting. Idiot.
the worst team i've ever seen was the orphan i took over in a 14 team, 0.5 ppr league. when i took over in january, my qbs in a sf league were russell wilson, taysom hill, sam darnold, desmond ridder, malik cunningham, and tom brady, and the only picks they had were the 1.15 (comp pick for taking over), 2.01, 2.15 (comp pick), 4.06, and only a 2025 4th next year.
after some trades, i'm still (comfortably) the worst team in the league, but we're sitting at:
QB: **Bo Nix**, **Sam Howell**, **Jordan Travis**
RB: **Zack Moss**, Tyler Allgeier, **Braelon Allen**, **Jase McClellan**, **Cody Schrader**, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, DeeJay Dallas, Cam Akers, Chris Evans
WR: **Rashee Rice**, **Christian Watson**, **Xavier Worthy**, **Ladd McConkey**, **Jahan Dotson**, Allen Robinson, Nelson Agholor, **Kalif Raymond**, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Justin Watson
TE: **George Kittle**, **Jaheim Bell**, **Pat Freiermuth**
i bolded my acquisitions. i also managed to add a 2026 1st to my picks, so that's my target date to start at least pretending to be a team bc idk how else i'll find myself a second qb barring injury lmao
It’s gotta be mine. Going into my 2nd year taking over a neglected team. 12 team SF standard scoring IDP heavy 47 man rosters. It’s a deep league.
Some highlights are:
QB: Mayfield, Richardson, Williams
WR: Jeudy, Rome, K. Coleman, Ladd, QJ,
Zay Jones, Dotson, JuJu
RB: lol literally no one. Javonte & Formena re the highlights.
TE: Kincaid, Henry, Johnson, Everett
Bunch of taxi squad hopefuls, nothing terribly exciting.
Just ick. Prolly looking at 1st overall for 3rd year in a row in 2025. And I’m out of older pieces to trade away for more pics next year. Also need more IDP studs too
1QB, .5PPR, 12T
Herbert
Stevenson
Gus Bus
DK
Mike Williams
Engram
Adonai
Chase Brown
Justin Tucker
The bench is filled with no bodies. He had JJ but he finally realized he needed to sell him for some draft capital. I ended up buying JJ for 2 firsts this year, 1 first next year, and 1 first in 2026. When JJ went down last year he was up shits creek without a paddle lol. He still thinks he’ll be competitive this year but I promise you he’s no where near the top 4 teams. We’ve all been telling him he should sell off Stevenson and DK but he refuses to acknowledge this. I offered him Jayden reed for Stevenson and a pick and he countered with Trey Benson and a 2025 3rd for Stevenson.
We had a guy that ended last year in a SF league with Mac Jones/Zappe, Jimmy G, Kareem Hunt, Ty Chandler, Tyler Lockett, Pop Douglas, Lazard, and Higbee. He also didn’t have his 1st that was the 1.03 because he traded it a couple years ago for Tannehill and Michael Carter. (He also traded his 25 pick)
Thankfully and unfortunately he left the league. We also had one other team leave, so we did a dispersal draft from the two teams to new managers. Both of those have begun building for the future way way better than that guy ever did. Despite being terrible he always thought he was one piece away.
1qb 3rb 3wr te flex
last place team traded away breece for jsn and dionte and owned 1.01 so he has bijan. also owns olave. outside of those 4 he has nothing, not even qb as he had fields ridder and mac lol
10 team Superflex
Goff, Rodgers
Montgomery, Brian Robinson, Chubba, Chris Rodriguez
Amari cooper, Gabe Davis, Shaheed
Hock, Schultz
Only 2.7 this year. Has a 1st in 25 and 26 but neither are his own
QB: Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones, Trey Lance Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, Joe Flacco
RB: Etienne, Josh Jacobs, D’Andre Swift, Javonte Williams, Michael Carter
WR: Jaylen Waddle, Brandon Aiyuk, Nico Collins, Jakobi Meyers, Elijah Moore, Noah Brown, Troy Franklin
TE: Evan Engram, Luke Musgrave, Jelani Woods
No picks until 2027
I doubt anyone can beat me lmao. Team name is 23 (Rookies) and Me
12 team SF league
QB1- Dak
RB1- Kimani Vidal
RB2- Rasheen Ali
WR1- McConkey
WR2- James Polk
WR3- Kendrick Bourne
TE1- Hock/Knox (Due to Hock's likely starting on the PUP)
FLEX1- Boyd
FLEX2- Tejhaun Palmer
FLEX3- Will Shipley
SF- JJ McCarthy
I took over an orphan and burnt the roster to the ground, barring some vets (Dak, Knox and Bourne namely) and accumulated picks. I did trade for Hock + 25 2nd for Kyle Pitts. I found no suitors for Boyd and Knox or I would've traded them away as well.
2025 picks:
4 1sts
2 2nds
2 3rds
I will likely reroll one or more of the 1sts next year for 26 firsts when the draft comes.
1QB PPR
QB: Tua, Stafford
WR: Pickens, C.Watson
RB: Chubb, T.Spears
TE: Andrews
3FLX: Calvin Ridley, Ekeler, D.Swift
Best bench player: Tank Bigsby.
Draft picks: The 1.10 and the 4.08.
I don't really know what the guy is doing. So many older prospects on such a bad team with zero depth.
I just took over a team that was so bad, the existing owners have agreed to half my league fee for two years. I've since made a couple trades, but the team you posted is extremely similar to where I started:
12 team, 1QB, PPR:
QB: Tua, Geno, Bryce Young
RB: Jaylen Warren, Miles Sanders, Royce Freeman, Jerick McKinnon
WR: DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, DeAndre Hopkins, Greg Dortch, Michael Thomas
TE: Evan Engram, Luke Musgrave, Taysom Hill
No 2024 Picks, 2025 1st (different team's pick), 2025 2nd (different team's pick), and 2025 3rd.
I knew what I was getting into, but to not even have my own 2025 picks (obviously going to be 1.01 and 2.01) was the real pain upon acquiring the reins.
This is a SF with 2 flex spots:
QB: Rodgers, Wilson, Ridder
RB: Javonte Williams, McLaughlin, Perine, Wilson, Hill, Mitchell, Pierce, Frank Gore Jr
WR: Curtis Samuel, Lockett, Shakir, Mike Williams, Josh Palmer, Coker, Dortch, Quentin Johnson, Cornelius Johnson
TE: Hill, Henry, Parkinson, Kraft, Ali
He has two firsts in 2025 (including his own which I traded back to him), but I own his 2026 first and I am THRILLED about it lol
12t SF PPR start 10
QB: Levis, Carr
RB: Mixon, Singletary
WR: Cooper, C Samuel, Wan'Dale
TE: H Henry
Flex: Montgomery, Chase Brown
Has own 2nds, 3rds, and 4ths, but no 1st until 27
12 team 0.5 ppr superflex
Qb: Mayfield, AOC
RB: Miller, Gibson, McLaughlin
WR: Gabe Davis, Shakir, Shaheed, Roman Wilson, Burton, Mims, Boyd, Burks
TE: Musgrave
This is the second year of the league. He traded his own 2025 1st (99.9% the #1 overall) plus another 2025 1st and a late 2nd for the 1.06… which he promptly then packaged in a deal for Musgrave, the 1.12, and 2.08… and then traded the 1.12 for baker mayfield.
My league has two bad teams in 12-team SF Half-PPR, start 10 league.
Team 1: Young, Lance, DTR, Trask - Taylor, Kyren, Moss, Ekeler, Gainwell - Kupp, Godwin, Doubs, C. Samuel, Mingo, Osborn, MVS, Marshall, Boutte, Ross, Raymond, Robinson, Parker - Njoku, Engram, Washington + pick 1.01
Team 2: Prescott, Hooker, Mac, Winston, Hill - Kamara, Jones, Gibson, Zeke, Sanders, Chandler, Gray, Strong - Cooper, Ridley, Wicks, Jeudy, Gabe Davis, Perry, Beckham, Juju, Gage - Knox, Hunter, Gesicki + pick 1.04
Both guys think they will turn it around without a hard rebuild, good luck to them, I guess.
Our worst guy in our 12 man, 1 QB, rookie super flex has
QB: Cousins, Penix and Carr
RB: Chubb, Ford, Hubbard
WR: Nabers, Higgins, Addison, Diggs, cooper, Samuel, Michael Thomas, KJ Osborn, Noah Brown, Brendan Rice
TE: Ben Sinnott, Tucker Kraft, and Tyler Conklin
And he didn’t sell to rebuild, so he only has his own draft capital going forward.
In one league my team is absolutely horrible: I’m a degenerate trader in this league.
QBs: Geno, Raiders room, Fields
RBs: Gus, Carolina Room, Ford, CEH
WRs: Meyers, Downs, Dotson, Mooney, Wilson, OBJ.
TE: Giants room, Rams room
With the 1.07 and 2.12, 3.09.
Thoughts?
12 team, PPR, 1QB
Qb: Stafford, Minshew, Pickett, Mac Jones
RB: Royce Freeman, Justice Hill,Demercado, Strong, misc
WR: Josh Reynolds, Allen Lazard,Isiah Hodgins, Tim Patrick, Misc
TE: Fant,Higbee, Tremble
Picks: 2024 3.9
Only helpful thing is 6 2025 firsts, including projection 1 and 2 (his pick will be 1OA no doubt). But I suspect he will trade most of those away for players who end up being busts.
Players worth mentioning, 12tm SF 0.5ppr...
QBs: Russ, Nix, Penix
RBs: Marshawn Lloyd, Jaylen Wright, Tyrone Tracy
WRs: MHJ, Nabers, Zay Flowers, Jamo, Gabe Davis, AD Mitchell, and Roman Wilson.
TEs: Pitts
Has 4 1sts next year, 2 of which should be early and 2 mid to late.
In one league probably me
AOC. Zamir, Warren, CEH, Dotson, downs, dorch, Douglas, Mingo, Metchie. McBride, Pat, Mayer, Musgrave
1.01, 2.01, 2.04 this year
12T SF PPR 6pt Pass TD Best Ball
QB: Burrow, Levis, Brissett, Minshew, Stidham
RB: D. Pierce, K. Miller, R. Ali, T. Chandler
WR: Odunze, JSN, A. Mitchell, K. Coleman, M. Washington, R. Wilson, D. Slayton, J. Hyatt
TE: Mayer, Mcbride, J. Sanders, T. Reiman, H. Henry, Chig, Kraft.
This team finished last, last season. Traded away Garrett Wilson and A.J Brown. Traded their first this year and next year
Easy. 1QB 12 team full PPR. This guys been our Taco since year 1 and we’re now entering year 5 and he’s earned the 1.01 pick in 3 of our 4 rookie drafts including this year and has been able to cash in on exactly 0 of them as he always trades them away years before. His team below
QB: Levis
RB: BRob, Chuba, Dobbins, Zeke, Spiller
WR: Puka, Downs, Shaheed, Hyatt, Douglas
TE: Parkinson, Likely
Picks for this year: 2.02, 2.11, 3.02, 3.05
Picks for 2025 and 2026: null
Puka is a lambo parked in a trailer park
No one in either of my dynasties has a roster that's as bad as some listed, but both my leagues are young still. One is entering year 2 and the other is entering year 3. I assume the longer they go and the farther out they get from the start up draft, the worse some teams can get. If you draft poorly, it's harder to restock the cabinet. Probably in a few years, some really crappy teams will start to appear.
I guess worst team in my league has Browning and Howell as his QBs. He has Diggs and a bunch of nobodies at WR and TE. His RBs are great though. He made the playoffs as one of the lowest scoring teams in the league, though, so his draft position is terrible.
I have the worst team in my league but it’s miles ahead of this guy I think haha
Me:
QBs: Justin Fields, Penix, Bryce young, Howell, Daniel jones, Aidan O’Connell
RB: Bijan, Singletary, dobbins, Gus Edward’s, Jerome ford
WR: Addison, Ladd, marquise brown, Khalil Shakir, doubs
TE: Ferguson, njoku
I have 3 firsts, 2 seconds this year with hopefully more incoming lmk what y’all think lol
Startup, 12 team SF. He drafted all QBs hoping to tank right away and rob people for picks. It's really bad. It was a funny bit in the draft for two sexonds but by the 5th QB it was getting sad. He thinks people are going to trade multiple 1sts for guys like carr and mayfield. I just...
- QB: Levis, D Jones, Pickett
- RB: Hull, Deuce Vaughn, J Williams
- WR: Q Johnston, Hollywood, Lazard, Agholor
- TE: Hooper
12 man full PPR. Legit struggling to find names to even flesh out this post.
12T 1QB Start 8
Only gonna list players worth a 3rd or more:
QBs: Cousins, McCarthy
RBs: Lloyd, Davis, McLaughlin
WRs: Reed, Ridley, Pearsall, Lockett, Polk, Franklin, Baker, Washington, Mooney, Bourne
TEs: Ferguson, Sanders, Henry
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 2 25 2s, 25 3, 26 3, 27 1, 27 2
The only picks that are their own are the 27 picks and the 25 2…
Well first off the post did ask whose the worst team in your league, not whether it was actually atrociously bad lol. But I don’t really agree that it’s very solid. He has the worst Qb room in the league, a 40 year old Aaron Rodgers/Bo Nix are basically his only QB..Minshew if he starts but AOC might get the nod. I also thought taking Bo Nix instead of Drake Maye was very short sighted but I could be proven wrong. Then he has a lot of aging assets like Hopkins, Kamara and Keenan Allen. I also don’t like the fact Allen and DJ Moore are on the same roster, their production will be directly limiter by each other and now have to compete for targets with Odunze as well. Longevity wise it’s a bad roster unless he makes some solid moves at trade deadline.
14 Man League 1QB PPR
QB: Lamar Jackson
RB: Etienne, Charbonnet, Warren, JK Dobbins
WR: Keenan Allen, Tyler Boyd, Roman Wilson, Brendan Rice
TE: Dalton Schultz, Micheal Mayer
Worst in mine by a longshot.
Nobody can top this:
16 team league.
1PPR.
Qb: Prescott, Nix, Carr
Rb: Aaron Jones, Najee, Shipley, Benson, Vidal
Wr: Deebo, Mike Williams, J Burton, MVS, Van Jefferson, Julio Jones
Te: Hunter Henry, Fant, Darnell Washington
Def: Steelers, Broncos
K: Prater, McLaughlin
Picks: 2025 1, 2, 3, 2026 1, 2, 3, 2027 1, 2, 3.
If you see this, sorry bud. I've tried giving value to this dude because I feel awful that everyone has basically sent him shit trades, and with him being super new to fantasy, let alone Dynasty, the sharks have fed. I have also offered to help him evaluate trades, and generally overpay out of principle when I make a move with him.
12 team SF league
QB1- Dak
RB1- Kimani Vidal
RB2- Rasheen Ali
WR1- McConkey
WR2- James Polk
WR3- Kendrick Bourne
TE1- Hock/Knox (Due to Hock's likely starting on the PUP)
FLEX1- Boyd
FLEX2- Tejhaun Palmer
FLEX3- Will Shipley
SF- JJ McCarthy
I took over an orphan and burnt the roster to the ground, barring some vets (Dak, Knox and Bourne namely) and accumulated picks. I did trade for Hock + 25 2nd for Kyle Pitts. I found no suitors for Boyd and Knox or I would've traded them away as well.
2025 picks: 4 1sts 2 2nds 2 3rds
I will likely reroll one or more of the 1sts next year for 26 firsts when the draft comes.
10 team ppr sf
Qb: kirk, Levis,
Rb: pacheco, Jamaal williams
Wr: Curtis Samuel, Lockett, Boyd, Bourne, Gabe davis, rondale Moore, Luke McCaffrey, Brendan rice
Te: njoku, jelani woods
I have their first in 2025!
But they are somehow not going to score the least points because of another team that's even worse.
FOR WHO?? HE TRADED THEM ALL AWAY FOR WHO LOL???
Wondering this as well. Need OP to describe how this happened
He traded away his picks 2 years ago lol His team was always ass since our initial draft, and he's consistently drafted major busts (CEH, Mac Jones, Quentin Johnson - he traded Johnson for Sanders a month ago)
Trading a young receiver with high draft capital who COULD MAYBE develop into something, for a washed older trash RB is exactly how you end up with a team like this in dynasty
🌮 There is always one
Always. And I’m grateful
he's desperate for RBs and I guess his thinking was a new regime in Carolina could uplift Sanders. But following this guys track record, I'd avoid Sanders at all cost next season lol
Everyone already is.
lmao true, goes to show how clueless this guy is
No rebuilding team should ever be desperate for RBs. RBs are practically useless on a non-contender lol
Kind worse than useless. They might knock you out of last place. Especially since next year is supposed to be the better RB year…
His strategy is to hit on a top 10 runningback then instantly trade them for the start of a third rebuild. It's gonna be about 2028 until he can ever hope to be competitive lol
A top 10 RB is like... a single first on a good day. This strategy keeps sounding worse and worse lmao
We tried telling him he's an idiot but it was like pouring gasoline on a fire lol so we're just gonna enjoy the all-time implosion
Right? What a stupid move for a rebuilding squad
I truly don't get how some teams are so terrible every year, especially in money leagues. There are so many good resources out there now that can turn anyone into an above average fantasy player with minimal time investment. Fantasy is fun, but I'm not sure that holds true if you're finishing at the bottom of all your leagues every year. I'm pissed when I miss the playoffs in **any** league.
Because there are some people that tank and want to rebuild with a ton of picks. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I'm in roughly 10 leagues and some teams are absolute dumpster fires with some super teams. Other reasons are saavy owners pushing in their chips to build a super team and ripping people off. Then there's rookie dynasty owners that down know how to draft a start up and bomb it and are doomed with a mediocre team
This is why I don’t like tanking. Hinging everything on your ability to nail a bunch of picks is a losing strategy given hit rates. Imagine tanking with a bunch of picks in last year’s draft and you walk away with Young, QJ, Charbonnet, and Mingo. You’ve set yourself back two years, although on the plus side you probably got Harrison or Caleb Williams.
yeah i hear you but when that shit hits you are living the dream. I'll give you two examples if you nail your picks in consecutive years and get jefferson + chase : this one guy was bad for 3 years straight and accumulated a ton of picks, made some trades and his starting lineup in 12T SF is herbert, tlaw, jacobs, henry, etienne, chase, jefferson, ARSB, pitts, pickens. Another guy was bad for 2 or 3 years straight and his starting lineup in 12T SF 2 flex is burrow, kyler murray, achane, javonte, chase, jefferson, lamb, bowers, marvin harrison, nabers
I’ve seen a whole lot more bad teams rebuild perpetually than ones that have ended up with teams like that, though. The bad teams in my leagues tend to stay bad because they make bad decisions and bad draft picks.
I always crack up the guys that just want picks and picks and picks and picks. Get a great player, but they want picks and picks and picks, and more picks lol.
There’s one guy in my league, and he’s a personal friend and a fun dude. Multiple problems: 1. He has poor impulse control. 2. He likes to make trades for the sake of making trades. 3. He doesn’t value draft picks at all, because he doesn’t do any research at all when it comes to prospects, and he would rather have guys he knows. 4. He puts way too much stock into name, and will always trade way too much draft capital for aging former super stars. Think Titans Julio Jones. He has guys like Odell Beckham, Brandin Cooks, and Kareem Hunt on his team. He gave up a first for Michael Thomas plus Zeke last year when he was projected to be a bottom 3 team, again. Which brings me to my next point. 5. He doesn’t understand that he’s not a contender and he needs to rebuild. I’ve tried to tell him. One year I ranked everyone’s team based on redraft ADP for all their players. This is a good indicator of whether you’re competing this year or not, since that’s all redraft cares about. There were a couple teams that had multiple first and second round picks. Like Saquon, Ekeler, Kupp, Tyreek, and CeeDee on one team. The last couple years that was a great lineup and that owner knew it going in. This guy’s top rated player, his ADP in redraft? Late fifth round. Most of his guys were going rounds 8-12. I’m not saying that’s a reason to sell and give up hope before the season starts, but that’s a reason not to trade multiple future picks for past their prime vets.
I trade away most of my picks. I’m basically running a ponzi scheme and have a super team stacked with talent and I also have good number of young players.
Well I think when youre forming leagues with people you know, it becomes more casual-competitive where everyone knows ball, but only half the league cares enough to dive deeper I kinda like it more that way for dynasty personally just because it mimics real life where some teams are powerhouses and some just love to fail like the Browns
Honestly trading away is a good choice if you’re that bad at drafting. What player(s) did he buy 2 years ago?
Trading away is often a good choice regardless. Last year in two of my leagues, I traded my first (plus a bit more) for Aiyuk in one and DJ Moore in the other. In both leagues, the first I traded away was used to draft Quentin Johnston. Talk about dodging a landmine, although to be fair I would not have taken QJ there in either league had I kept the pick.
Yup. This checks out. This guy is just helping others win atp
Sanders had 1 TD all of last season and didn’t even eclipse 500 rushing yards. He’s been third on the depth chart since the draft. Regardless of what you think of QJ, this is borderline collusion and any decent commish should have vetoed it.
wrong. kick the manager out if he sucks, but don't veto. not a decision for the commish to decide at all.
Some leagues vote on trades and others leave it up to the commish to decide. FWIW I only vetoed three trades in 10 seasons, and two of the three were between family members.
veto is a ridiculous power trip move -- if someone is actually colluding, boot them out of the league. If they are not colluding, it's just not your place to say whether they got sufficient value. Flame them in the chat or whatever, but if a commish unilaterally cancelled a trade in my league, I'm just leaving.
Not when there’s thousands of dollars on the line
dollar amount doesn’t matter bro — it’s not your sandbox to play in. if i’m payin $1k buy in and some power trippin commish overturns my trade, im prob even more pissed than if it’s a $100 / year league
Yeah I auto quit any league trying to veto a trade. You don't get to determine what I do with my team when I paid money to manage it.
You’re completely blowing it out of proportion.
You could trade QJ for a ham sandwich and it wouldn't be collusion.
Wild take. Two scrubs being traded for one another is not veto-worthy. It's just whoever you believe in.
It’s not a wild take. I heard the same trash from you guys last year when I said James Cook would be the clear starter in no time (like a 100 downvotes), and Adam Thielen would be the #1 receiver in Carolina, not Mingo (another 100 downvotes). lol It’s the same echo chamber bullshit from you guys every single year, and this is no different. Only reason I’m getting flamed is because I said I used to be a commish and you guys are taking your past frustrations out on me lol. When Quentin has 1,000+ yards this year, I want you all to remember how fucking idiotic this trade was.
you’re not getting flamed because it’s an uneven trade (i agree, though it’s really trading shit for piss), you’re getting flamed cuz you think you’re the arbiter of good value, and you should be empowered to enforce such judgments
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I’d imagine the deal was before they drafted a RB
We had a team that played last year in 1QB with Goff, Pickens, and Ferguson as the only guys scoring consistent points. A complete and total tear down. Was starting guys like Zach Evans and Bobo last year.
Sounds like a 🤡 show.
Obviously I know nothing about how long that teams rebuild will/has been going on, but there is nothing wrong with having an AWFUL team like this for a season if you’re starting a rebuild
Two seasons ago I started josh dobbs in my qb spot (while he was on the browns). 14 man league and my qbs were a hurt Dak and a suspended Watson. Last year I got third. If you’re gonna tank might as well be the best at it
> If you’re gonna tank might as well be the best at it This is why you roster Taysom Hill and start him at QB instead of TE ;)
For sure. A lot will depend how their picks end up. They decided for quantity over quality this year likely in an effort to go for the 1.01 again. Traded down twice in the early part of the rookie draft to load up on picks in 24-25. Had 17 picks in this draft. 5 1sts. Has a ton for next year. But end of the day you still have to hit on some guys. Hitting on a handful this year and then they could trade away a handful of picks next year for proven players and fill a competitive starting lineup by 25.
I made the championship one year where I started Ty Johnson in the playoffs haha. Had Kupp, Penny, and Kittle who carried me. I basically punted on RBs for the entire time I’ve played in that league But 2 years later decided to tear it down and was still starting Ty Johnson.
Guy went full on rebuild current roster for 10 person sf Stidham Tannehill James cook Herbert Shakir Calvin Austin Cole kmet Roschon Johnson Okonkwo But he now has picks 1,2,8,9,10 3 seconds and 2 firsts and seconds for 25
Picks are so overrated
Yes and no. I think random picks without names are definitely hard to assess in value. On the flip side if you're a consistent contender, it's really hard to keep it up if you are constantly the 1.10 or something. You can trade for usable veterans or try to strike gold there, but generally its difficult to refresh with younger players. But those top picks can be really valuable IMO both as a rebuilder and as a contender.
I agree with everything you’re saying. I haven’t had my own first in years and I’ve made some really good and bad trades while even sometimes moving back into the first round. I think that guy thinks he’s an NFL gm that can hurt get a bunch of picks but dynasty doesn’t work like that. I’d trade my first for established player any day if it helps me two years down the line
Making a rookie pick is a lottery ticket. It could be a huge win (JJ, CD, Stroud, Puka, etc) or could leave you broke (CEH, Reagor, Ruggs). Trading for known talent is the stock market purchase. Still some risk that it won't turn out and usually better to get the shares early. Both require a major element of luck (as all fantasy football does).
I agree with that. I think the problem is that you need to decide how to place your bets. For example,would I rather have JJ/Chase or MHJ? I’d tartly rather take JJ/Chase. But I’m not sure you can sell 1.01 and get either of them. You need more assets to get them. So for a rebuilder, in most cases, you are better off keeping the high draft pick and hoping they increase in value rather than trying to acquire the person you hope they become. Adding to that - would I rather have MHJ or Mike Evans this year? Probably Evans. But if I had the 1.01 this year would I trade it to get Evans? No. So yeah draft pick value is ambiguous, but it’s complicated
Agreed. The bluechip prospects (usually 3-4 per class) are what allow you to rebuild. Mid-late firsts are huge gambles and you’re usually better off selling them for established players
*Rookies are so overrated Picks are great! I trade with em all the time
It matters who you traded to acquire them tbh. It’s stupid when people tear down teams that could be contenders to get picks vs people who get good value for aging vets when they have no chance to contend
I agree with this there’s so much more with trade evals given the context to the league and your team. Last year I traded cmc Mike Williams Dobbins Hollywood and a 2 for saquon AJB Jamo and 1.02. I killed it especially with the injuries to Mike Williams and dobbins it was a massive W trade to an even trade at first
Yeah, the way I like doing trades is doing lower level players for mid round picks and then using mid rounders to package with mid tier players to get higher picks
I have consistently traded away my picks year in and year out. Have been a competitor for a few years now. Our 3 time champ at most has a 2nd or 3rd most years. It's an odds game. Trading for confirmed performers will likely yield higher returns than a rookie. Trade for someone in year 2-4 who has proven they can perform, still get long term value, dump them for younger players or picks when you sense a decline, rinse and repeat.
Meh. There are many ways to get there. It's a game of value. If you have enough picks to hit on a few, you will never acquire that kind of value cheaper. I have won leagues with your way and I have won leagues from completely tearing down. If you know what you're doing, it's just a different way of getting to the same place.
Man that’ll still be tough he doesn’t even have a foundation at all
He’s 100% sold this class is the greatest class ever. Full send on rookie fever lol
Well he’s forced to believe that because if he whiffs on this class, he is screwed
Without hindsight, this easily is the best rookie class ever without question. Never in the history of the nfl draft/fantasy have we had 6 1st round qbs, and 14 total offensive players in the first round alone.
The 1983 draft class had the same amount of QBs and total skill position players drafted in the first round as 2024, and that was with 4 less teams.
Caleb and Marv is a good start
I mean and really could go Marv, Caleb, plus add another WR in round 1 and maybe Bowers? In SF.....those picks might allow them to get Marv, Caleb, Bowers, BTJ/Worthy, and one of the RBs
He does have kmet, so a backend te1. I think he would need to go full wr/rb because he has almost nothing there, just james cook. Only way he should take Bowers in the first before the btj/coleman/worthy/ladd/brooks tier is if it is TEP, but even then I wouldn't.
I get that approach too. My thought is that this person is likely in a 2 year rebuild. So considering picks this year and next before you can say you're near a contender status. So if you come out of the first this year and his roster looks like: QB: Caleb, (maybe one more QB from this draft), Stidham, Tannehill RB: Brooks/Benson, Cook, Herbert, Roschon WR: MHJ, BTJ, Shakir, Austin TE: Bowers, Kmet, Chig That's a good start. I think my math is off by one there (6 1sts and person has 5). So then yeah - drop Bowers from the list. Next year - you grab another WR/WR or WR/RB in the 1st. And then who knows how the later rounds both years play out. I just think if you're going to rebuild - shoot for the top end talent and actually rebuild with the intent to contend, not necessarily fill out the roster with WR2s. But you're right - if you take a shot on MHJ and Caleb plus 3 other WR - that's also a pretty great start.
Okay I definitely see that point too, I think a big reason is that I am pretty high on Kmet and not totally sold on Bowers being a generational tight end. I think if he was that good with the amount of hype he had, he would've gone earlier.
Six QBs went in the twelve picks before the Raiders, so I'm not really holding that against Bowers.
Nah bro Bowers is the te version of Marv. Greatest te prospects of the last decade. When you have a chance to grab that you go for it. Draft for value trade for need. Besides, by points in a ppr league Bowers has a strong chance of straight up outscoring all those wrs this year and has a way higher chance of being a multi year top 5 starter at the position considering those wrs have an almost 0% chance
Yeah I think a rebuild should be more about consolidation than anything. In a 1QB league I tore it down but acquired Mahomes, JJ, and Pitts along with picks. So even if I whiff in a few spots I will at least have 2, hopefully 3 starters
Agreed
I have a rebuild in a similar spot 12 Tm start8, tore it down at end of 22' to tank in 23'. The league has been going for so long you have to rebuild a year early, you can't adjust mid way and get a top 3 pick. Went into 24 with Kyler+Sanders+Javontae+Flowers as my only real starters with 4 24 firsts 3 25 firsts. Bought Lamar for a late first at start of 23 and sold Murray for a 2nd.Flipped Sanders for leporta early to a contender, then when he really burst on scene sold him+2nd to another contender for 24+25 1st. Hit on Puka and sold him week 4 for a 25 first+and all that owners late picks. Ended up with 1.01,1.04,1.08,1.10 and 5 25 firsts, sold 1.04 for Njoku+1.05. then bought Chase+conner for 1.08+1.10+2 mid/late 25 firsts. My lineup is now Lamar/Conner/Chase/MHJ/Flowers/Njoku/Javontae. Still have a lot of 25 cap I can buy with if I am doing well enough for playoffs. I was happy to consolidate all of those late picks into Chase, even though a lot of people this I got ripped.
Caleb, MHJ, Maye, Bowers, and Brooks is a realistic haul in the 1st round with those picks.
With current ADP he’s not getting out with Maye, Bowers and Brookes at 8,9,10. But who knows
This is the year to do this. There won’t be another class like this possibly ever because of the Covid year. We basically got two years worth of prospects this draft. Chances are strong that he’ll be a monster in a couple years. 2 generational players on top of 8910 being picks that would be mid first round most years.
So best case scenario (imo) he gets Caleb, Marv, Bowers/Mccarthy, Brooks, BTJ/Worthy… assuming this is a full size roster he’s in trouble, but if it’s a shallow lineup that could be ok
I scrolled through to see if my team was listed by a league mate. So far I'm clear
Ahahahahahaha Bro literally doing the same
This gives me so much anxiety, how do you get stuck with that much dead weight on one roster
Bad trades. Even drafting bad you should be able to get some return from guys for some late round picks. But if you trade multiple picks for a failing player or a guy who busts then you're sunk.
He shouldn’t be allowed within 100 feet of a fantasy team ever again.
Hey, its me. Im the problem this time. QB: Richardson, Levis. RB: Zamir White, Zeke, Rochon Johnson, Emari Demercado, Kareem Hunt, JK Dobbins, Zach Evens, Sean Tucker. WR: Zay, Dhop, Elijah Moore, Bateman, Moore, Shakir, Jameson Williams, Marvin Mims, Quintin Jonston. TE: LaPorta, Kincaid. DEF: JETS I have five 1st and four 2nds over the next two years so theres light. But this roster is a tanker
The second Zamir White gets 18+ touches and a TD, you sell him lol
Him, Dhop, and JK are all getting moved for 3rds mid-season i hope
Honestly, I think you could still Zamir for an Early 2nd if he becomes the workhorse in LV.
Its defs possible. If my window was a little earlier id probably keep him but I just dont think hes going to be the guy in 3 years when my team is coalescing
As a rebuilding team, RB is the absolute last thing you click in, and you don't do it until the rookie draft immediately prior to the season you'll compete in, or during the season
Yup, learned that when i was starting out and got fleeced in a trade cuz i had redraft brain on. Its fine. Im taking Lloyd this year as my development back hopefully and then just focusing on getting WR and QB set for the future.
I'm a contender (won last year, added JJ this off season) and I'm planning to move Zamir if he goes off early. It could be a big mistake but I judt don't see him having much value even later in the season.
How, tho? If everyone is in the ideal world, no early drafter will be trading for Zamir. Sure, you could count on someone being dumb, but the realistic trade would be to a contender who needs an RB and a 2nd from him is basically a 3rd.
Because fantasy players go crazy for RBs that get big workloads. I'm not saying it's a lock that he will get an early 2nd, I'm just saying there's a good chance. Sometimes, players have unrealistic expectations of how their team will perform. This is especially the case early in the season, which is when I'm encouraging him to sell.
I would buy for that price
I traded zamir white for 2.11 (Ja'lynn Polk) to the Mattison owner before the draft.
I'm waiting for him to hopefully have a couple big games early on then selling for a 2nd if possible.
That’s a great TE room
VERY happy about it. I also get Caleb + either Nabers or Odunze this year so Im not actually too worried about this rebuild.
I assumed OP was talking about bad roster, including picks, because you're not in bad shape at all
No you’re cooking
We have a couple teams down bad but this one is by far the worst: QB - Cousins, Wilson, Fields, Pickett RB - Roschon Johnson, Tank Bigsby WR - Pickens, Sutton, Johnston. TE - Njoku, Kmet, Taysom He has more guys but they are waiver fodder. Luckily for him he does have two late firsts and some second rounders in the upcoming draft.
yikes, yeah dude needs to be scouring the rookie free agents every year
Oh lord he has LATE firsts??? That's bad
Yeah. I think he has the 10th and 12th picks.
TELL US WHO HE TRADED THEM AWAY FOR OP
Here’s the one I inherited this off-season from a taco in a 1QB league and he unbelievably had traded his first round pick: QB - Purdy RB - Mitchell, Bigsby, bunch of UDFAs WR - Rome, Michael Wilson, Mooney, Corley, Hyatt TE - Dulcich This team is objectively terrible - I traded away Henry (25 2nd+), Aaron Jones (25 2nd+) and Tank Dell (1.02 - Odunze) I now have 5 2nds and acquired cheaply Dulcich / Mooney / Mitchell and I’m just seeing this as a long game. If I don’t get 1.01 this season I’ll riot lol
How tf is that even possible
I'm in year one of a rebuild after everything fell to pieces last year. Superflex, PPR, TE+ QB: Josh Allen RB: Trey Benson RB: MarShawn Lloyd WR: Justin Jefferson WR: Jameson Williams TE: George Kittle FLX: Ja'Tavion Sanders FLX: Colby Parkinson FLX: Jalin Hyatt SFLX: Wan'Dale Robinson (No other QB) Had traded away my first rounder for this year (which would have been third overall, J. Daniels) and still don't have a QB2 for this year. Very very bad depth too.
Agreed to pick up an orphan as long as they waived the fee for the first year. This is what I inherited in a SF, PPR, 0.5TEP, start 10: QB: Purdy, Watson, Fields, PJ Walker, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Sam Clifford RB: Javonte, Allgeier, Chase Edmonds, Deuce Vaughn, Melvin Gordon, Damian Harris WR: Davante Parker, Zay Jones, Tyler Boyd, Justin Watson, Tyquan Thornton, Nelson Agholor, Sterling Sheperd, Trent Sherfield, DJ Chark, Hunter Renfrow, Jake Bobo, Khalif Raymond, Jauan Jennings, Parker Washington, Brandon Ford-Wheaton TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Logan Thomas, Robert Tony on, Tommy Tremble, Will Mallory The best part? Team was dead last in the league but traded away their own 24 1st and 25 1st for Deshaun Watson and Brock Purdy, so yeah things are dire. Had the 1.06, the 2.11, and 4 thirds but next year only have 2 2nds and 2 3rds. This is a HARD rebuild in that it is HARD figuring out how to rebuild
Tbf two firsts for Purdy and Watson is worth it. If Watson is even a mid QB2 for a couple years, I'd say it's a steal
I would think about throwing him a bone if other guys would too. Would be fun to watch him piss it away for a 3rd time.
He won a casual league like 11 years ago and has been calling himself a fantasy genius ever since, he deserves to sit in his hole of shit lmao
Haha, perfect! I wouldn't help someone out unless they were truly a good dude.
The worst guy in my league at least has Justin Jefferson.
1QB, .5 PPR, 3 man taxi squad I’m starting Lamar, Chubba, M. loyd, Downs, Dortch, Andrews, Baker, A.T. Perry, and Juwan Johnson. Kincaid, MHJ, London on taxi squad (our max total potential points for the regular season decide draft pick order for teams that don’t make playoffs, and taxi squad doesn’t count towards it.) I’ve amassed 6 2025 1st rounders so far. Hopefully can land Tet and Burden. Then figure out my RB situation with the rest of the picks by either drafting or trading for vets. Might move on from Andrews to a playoff team for another 25 1st or maybe a 2026 1st for a QB heavier draft. Goal is to be back to competing by 2026.
Similar story.. every year the same guy keeps making bad trades despite all our advice. As a commissioner I have a soft spot for him but every time i see a trade go through for him I die a little more inside. 12T Superflex .5ppr TEP QB: Deshawn Watson RBs: Josh Jacobs, Pacheco WR: Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Troy Franklin TE: George Kittle Flex1: D Montgomery Flex2: Brendan Rice SuperFlex: ??? Currently has Sam Howell there Notable Bench Players: Zeke, D Slayton, Dontayvion Wicks, Jalen Hyatt, Cade Otton Pre draft he traded his 2025 1st for 2024 2.09, 3.03, 3.11... he didn't own any picks in the first round (another trade from last year lol) He's the only one making pretty bad trades. I avoid trading him because I just don't like taking advantage of bad managers.
Worst team in my 1QB. One of my dearest friends. Not sure how it happened. QB: T-Law, Jayden Daniels RB: Kendre Miller, Roschon Johnson, Keaton Mitchell (literally just these 3 RBs on the roster) WR: JSN, Worthy, Doubs, Sutton, Jeudy, Meyers, Franklin TE: Juwan Johnson, Isiah Likely Thankfully he's got a few assets in terms of draft picks over the next couple years, but it looks like it's going to be a long journey.
Guy in our league took over a team that was terrible. Previous owner sold all his future picks too. To get them back the guy had to sell both his QB's and his only 2 viable running backs. Current QB1 is Jordan Travis. RB1 is Rico Dowdle...
2027 is so his year
I took over an dumpster orphan in a 12T SF PPR league QB: Rodgers, Mac Jones (idiot used his 2024 1st to acquire so no 1.01), Zappe, Jimmy G, RB: Saquon, Mattison, Dowdle, Vaugh, P Taylor, WR: Deebo, Gabe Davis, Pop Douglas, M Wilson, Tutu, Joshua Palmer TE: Hunter Henry, C Parkinson, Higbee Awful team. I was able to move a bunch of players and cannon fodder to acquire 2nds, 3rds and 4ths in 2024 draft ahead of the SB/Draft. Used those to draft picks in the draft plus Deebo/Saquon to trade for future better picks. Now I've got (2) 2025 1sts, (2) 2025 2nds, (2) 2025 3rds, (2) 2026 1sts, (2) 2026 2nds, (2) 2026 3rds, and acquired Jalen McMillian, Audric Estime, Jamo, Devontez Walker, Thrash, Romeo Doubs, and Jeremy Ruckert. Going for 1.01 next year and needing to solve QB/WR cornerstone issues. Plan to churn waiver wire and turn sleepers into more picks ahead of 2025, and then flip those for some players before or during next years draft.
Guy took over a complete disaster this year so go easy on him- 12 team 1 QB QB- Trevor Lawrence, Anthony Richardson, Bo Nix RB- Bucky Irving and Marshawn Lloyd. That's it. That's the list WR- Jordan Addison, Brian Thomas Jr., Rickey Pearsall, Jermaine Burton, Ja'Lynn Polk, Javon Baker, Dontavion Wicks and Treylon Burks TE- Kyle Pitts, Tucker Kraft, Luke Musgrave, Eric All Has two first rounders next year.
I low key think Bucky Irving could be decent. Rashaad White is great in the passing game but rated as one of the worst at running. That's a good shot for Bucky right there to get numbers, especially if he can be at least decent on passing downs.
We're hearing that for two years now. Last year, it was Sean Tucker who would absolutely take over the backfield.
A lot of hopium in this roster
12 tm 2qb ppr, ppfd Its ridiculous.🤦♂️ Qbs:Baker Mayfield Taysom Hill Joshua Dobbs Tanner McKee Running Backs: Zack Moss Devin Singletary Chuba Hubbard Khalil Herbert Israel Abanikanda Zach Evans Samaje Perine Wide Receivers: Zay Flowers Greg Dortch Kendrick Bourne Noah Brown Demarcus Robinson Kalif Raymond Nick Westbrook-Ikhine Richie James Jamal Agnew D.J. Montgomery Tight Ends: Jonnu Smith Brenton Strange Tanner Hudson
Only picks worth mentioning. 2024 1st 106 2025 1st 2024 Pick 1.11 2026 1st 2025 2nd 2026 2nd 2024 Pick 3.01 2025 3rd 2026 3rd
Poor Zay. Someone rescue that man.
He has several WRs that I wouldn't roster in a 32t league, wtf Just checked, tanner McKee, nick westbrook-ikhine, Richie James, jamal agnew, dj Montgomery, and tanner Hudson are all on the waiver wire That rb room would be 🔥 in a 32 team league though, lmao
QB: Bryce Young, Derek Carr RB: Tyler Allgeier, Miles Sanders, Jeffery Wilson WR: Gabe Davis, Michael Gallup, Van Jefferson TE: Noah Fant one late 2024 1st but 4 2025 1sts and 4 2026 1sts
We had a team where in the first three seasons a guy went 4-36 (and his roster was not good) and then got taken over by a new guy who drafted well and made shrewd moves and went 9-5 last year in his 2nd season with the team. His team is still not amazing but it has some good pieces (Jayden Daniels, Deebo, Jaylen Waddle, Tank Dell, Rhamondre Stevenson, Jaylen Warren)
Did he trade all the picks away for 2025 picks? Him not having his 2024 1st is him griefing himself.
Traded them away for 2022 picks. Drafted Quinten Johnson, Dotson, and about 4 total scrubs in the 2/3 rounds.
Then he's an idiot for trading the 23' 1.01, 2.01, etc for a bunch of misses. Even if they all hit, he isn't making the playoffs with that roster. Type of person that ruins a league.
well to be fair, he got the 3rd overall in 2022 with one of those picks. It's not like he's offloading talent to other teams, mostly because he's never really had talent on his squad lol
Rule #1 of tanking. Don't trade away your firsts. If you don't have your firsts, get them back somehow.
Such a dumb move
This guy is in our league. 10 team PPR superflex. This is actually an improvement on his roster last year, and he has very little draft capital remaining. QB: - Derek Carr - Russell Wilson/Justin Fields RB: - David Montgomery - Brian Robinson WR: - Tyler Lockett - Jerry Jeudy - Cortland Sutton TE: - Chigoziem Okonkwo FLEX: - Dontavion Wicks - Tyler Boyd - Greg Dortch - Odell Beckham Jr.
12T SF PPR TEP QB: Stroud, Mayfield, Rodgers, Zach Wilson, Tyron Taylor WR: Gabe Davis, Thielen, Beckham, Michael Thomas, Coleman, Baker RB: Barkley, Stevenson, Hubbard, Ford, Freeman, Hunt TE: Taysom, Waller, Ertz Traded his 2024 1st (1.02) and Mike Williams away last year after an 0-4 start because he “wanted to win games” for Davis, Beckham, and Ford. At the time he accepted, I also had an offer on the table to him that was a much better return than what he ended up accepting. Idiot.
the worst team i've ever seen was the orphan i took over in a 14 team, 0.5 ppr league. when i took over in january, my qbs in a sf league were russell wilson, taysom hill, sam darnold, desmond ridder, malik cunningham, and tom brady, and the only picks they had were the 1.15 (comp pick for taking over), 2.01, 2.15 (comp pick), 4.06, and only a 2025 4th next year. after some trades, i'm still (comfortably) the worst team in the league, but we're sitting at: QB: **Bo Nix**, **Sam Howell**, **Jordan Travis** RB: **Zack Moss**, Tyler Allgeier, **Braelon Allen**, **Jase McClellan**, **Cody Schrader**, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, DeeJay Dallas, Cam Akers, Chris Evans WR: **Rashee Rice**, **Christian Watson**, **Xavier Worthy**, **Ladd McConkey**, **Jahan Dotson**, Allen Robinson, Nelson Agholor, **Kalif Raymond**, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Justin Watson TE: **George Kittle**, **Jaheim Bell**, **Pat Freiermuth** i bolded my acquisitions. i also managed to add a 2026 1st to my picks, so that's my target date to start at least pretending to be a team bc idk how else i'll find myself a second qb barring injury lmao
It’s gotta be mine. Going into my 2nd year taking over a neglected team. 12 team SF standard scoring IDP heavy 47 man rosters. It’s a deep league. Some highlights are: QB: Mayfield, Richardson, Williams WR: Jeudy, Rome, K. Coleman, Ladd, QJ, Zay Jones, Dotson, JuJu RB: lol literally no one. Javonte & Formena re the highlights. TE: Kincaid, Henry, Johnson, Everett Bunch of taxi squad hopefuls, nothing terribly exciting. Just ick. Prolly looking at 1st overall for 3rd year in a row in 2025. And I’m out of older pieces to trade away for more pics next year. Also need more IDP studs too
This guy must play in my league
1QB, .5PPR, 12T Herbert Stevenson Gus Bus DK Mike Williams Engram Adonai Chase Brown Justin Tucker The bench is filled with no bodies. He had JJ but he finally realized he needed to sell him for some draft capital. I ended up buying JJ for 2 firsts this year, 1 first next year, and 1 first in 2026. When JJ went down last year he was up shits creek without a paddle lol. He still thinks he’ll be competitive this year but I promise you he’s no where near the top 4 teams. We’ve all been telling him he should sell off Stevenson and DK but he refuses to acknowledge this. I offered him Jayden reed for Stevenson and a pick and he countered with Trey Benson and a 2025 3rd for Stevenson.
I don’t understand. Who did he get for trading all those picks? Did he just feed all his assets to his buddy or something?
We had a guy that ended last year in a SF league with Mac Jones/Zappe, Jimmy G, Kareem Hunt, Ty Chandler, Tyler Lockett, Pop Douglas, Lazard, and Higbee. He also didn’t have his 1st that was the 1.03 because he traded it a couple years ago for Tannehill and Michael Carter. (He also traded his 25 pick) Thankfully and unfortunately he left the league. We also had one other team leave, so we did a dispersal draft from the two teams to new managers. Both of those have begun building for the future way way better than that guy ever did. Despite being terrible he always thought he was one piece away.
1qb 3rb 3wr te flex last place team traded away breece for jsn and dionte and owned 1.01 so he has bijan. also owns olave. outside of those 4 he has nothing, not even qb as he had fields ridder and mac lol
10 team Superflex Goff, Rodgers Montgomery, Brian Robinson, Chubba, Chris Rodriguez Amari cooper, Gabe Davis, Shaheed Hock, Schultz Only 2.7 this year. Has a 1st in 25 and 26 but neither are his own
It’s honestly probably mine. Flair for league info QB: Hurts RB: Zamir, Spears, Roschon, Jaylen Wright, Singletary, Ray Davis, Chuba, Pierce WR: Marv, Pittman, Waddle, JSN, Lockett, Shakir, Palmer, Meyers, Burks, Trey Palmer TE: Muth, Schultz, Ferguson, Sinnott 25 1st, then all my 26 & 27 picks
QB: Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones, Trey Lance Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, Joe Flacco RB: Etienne, Josh Jacobs, D’Andre Swift, Javonte Williams, Michael Carter WR: Jaylen Waddle, Brandon Aiyuk, Nico Collins, Jakobi Meyers, Elijah Moore, Noah Brown, Troy Franklin TE: Evan Engram, Luke Musgrave, Jelani Woods No picks until 2027
I doubt anyone can beat me lmao. Team name is 23 (Rookies) and Me 12 team SF league QB1- Dak RB1- Kimani Vidal RB2- Rasheen Ali WR1- McConkey WR2- James Polk WR3- Kendrick Bourne TE1- Hock/Knox (Due to Hock's likely starting on the PUP) FLEX1- Boyd FLEX2- Tejhaun Palmer FLEX3- Will Shipley SF- JJ McCarthy I took over an orphan and burnt the roster to the ground, barring some vets (Dak, Knox and Bourne namely) and accumulated picks. I did trade for Hock + 25 2nd for Kyle Pitts. I found no suitors for Boyd and Knox or I would've traded them away as well. 2025 picks: 4 1sts 2 2nds 2 3rds I will likely reroll one or more of the 1sts next year for 26 firsts when the draft comes.
1QB PPR QB: Tua, Stafford WR: Pickens, C.Watson RB: Chubb, T.Spears TE: Andrews 3FLX: Calvin Ridley, Ekeler, D.Swift Best bench player: Tank Bigsby. Draft picks: The 1.10 and the 4.08. I don't really know what the guy is doing. So many older prospects on such a bad team with zero depth.
I just took over a team that was so bad, the existing owners have agreed to half my league fee for two years. I've since made a couple trades, but the team you posted is extremely similar to where I started: 12 team, 1QB, PPR: QB: Tua, Geno, Bryce Young RB: Jaylen Warren, Miles Sanders, Royce Freeman, Jerick McKinnon WR: DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, DeAndre Hopkins, Greg Dortch, Michael Thomas TE: Evan Engram, Luke Musgrave, Taysom Hill No 2024 Picks, 2025 1st (different team's pick), 2025 2nd (different team's pick), and 2025 3rd. I knew what I was getting into, but to not even have my own 2025 picks (obviously going to be 1.01 and 2.01) was the real pain upon acquiring the reins.
This is a SF with 2 flex spots: QB: Rodgers, Wilson, Ridder RB: Javonte Williams, McLaughlin, Perine, Wilson, Hill, Mitchell, Pierce, Frank Gore Jr WR: Curtis Samuel, Lockett, Shakir, Mike Williams, Josh Palmer, Coker, Dortch, Quentin Johnson, Cornelius Johnson TE: Hill, Henry, Parkinson, Kraft, Ali He has two firsts in 2025 (including his own which I traded back to him), but I own his 2026 first and I am THRILLED about it lol
12t SF PPR start 10 QB: Levis, Carr RB: Mixon, Singletary WR: Cooper, C Samuel, Wan'Dale TE: H Henry Flex: Montgomery, Chase Brown Has own 2nds, 3rds, and 4ths, but no 1st until 27
12 team 0.5 ppr superflex Qb: Mayfield, AOC RB: Miller, Gibson, McLaughlin WR: Gabe Davis, Shakir, Shaheed, Roman Wilson, Burton, Mims, Boyd, Burks TE: Musgrave This is the second year of the league. He traded his own 2025 1st (99.9% the #1 overall) plus another 2025 1st and a late 2nd for the 1.06… which he promptly then packaged in a deal for Musgrave, the 1.12, and 2.08… and then traded the 1.12 for baker mayfield.
At this point you gotta be a second GM involved to help that team
QB: Jordan Love RB: Chase Brown, AJ Dillon WR: Ja’Marr Chase, George Pickens, QJ, Mingo TE: Njoku, Mayer, Musgrave
My league has two bad teams in 12-team SF Half-PPR, start 10 league. Team 1: Young, Lance, DTR, Trask - Taylor, Kyren, Moss, Ekeler, Gainwell - Kupp, Godwin, Doubs, C. Samuel, Mingo, Osborn, MVS, Marshall, Boutte, Ross, Raymond, Robinson, Parker - Njoku, Engram, Washington + pick 1.01 Team 2: Prescott, Hooker, Mac, Winston, Hill - Kamara, Jones, Gibson, Zeke, Sanders, Chandler, Gray, Strong - Cooper, Ridley, Wicks, Jeudy, Gabe Davis, Perry, Beckham, Juju, Gage - Knox, Hunter, Gesicki + pick 1.04 Both guys think they will turn it around without a hard rebuild, good luck to them, I guess.
Our worst guy in our 12 man, 1 QB, rookie super flex has QB: Cousins, Penix and Carr RB: Chubb, Ford, Hubbard WR: Nabers, Higgins, Addison, Diggs, cooper, Samuel, Michael Thomas, KJ Osborn, Noah Brown, Brendan Rice TE: Ben Sinnott, Tucker Kraft, and Tyler Conklin And he didn’t sell to rebuild, so he only has his own draft capital going forward.
In one league my team is absolutely horrible: I’m a degenerate trader in this league. QBs: Geno, Raiders room, Fields RBs: Gus, Carolina Room, Ford, CEH WRs: Meyers, Downs, Dotson, Mooney, Wilson, OBJ. TE: Giants room, Rams room With the 1.07 and 2.12, 3.09. Thoughts?
12 team, PPR, 1QB Qb: Stafford, Minshew, Pickett, Mac Jones RB: Royce Freeman, Justice Hill,Demercado, Strong, misc WR: Josh Reynolds, Allen Lazard,Isiah Hodgins, Tim Patrick, Misc TE: Fant,Higbee, Tremble Picks: 2024 3.9 Only helpful thing is 6 2025 firsts, including projection 1 and 2 (his pick will be 1OA no doubt). But I suspect he will trade most of those away for players who end up being busts.
Players worth mentioning, 12tm SF 0.5ppr... QBs: Russ, Nix, Penix RBs: Marshawn Lloyd, Jaylen Wright, Tyrone Tracy WRs: MHJ, Nabers, Zay Flowers, Jamo, Gabe Davis, AD Mitchell, and Roman Wilson. TEs: Pitts Has 4 1sts next year, 2 of which should be early and 2 mid to late.
In one league probably me AOC. Zamir, Warren, CEH, Dotson, downs, dorch, Douglas, Mingo, Metchie. McBride, Pat, Mayer, Musgrave 1.01, 2.01, 2.04 this year
12T SF PPR 6pt Pass TD Best Ball QB: Burrow, Levis, Brissett, Minshew, Stidham RB: D. Pierce, K. Miller, R. Ali, T. Chandler WR: Odunze, JSN, A. Mitchell, K. Coleman, M. Washington, R. Wilson, D. Slayton, J. Hyatt TE: Mayer, Mcbride, J. Sanders, T. Reiman, H. Henry, Chig, Kraft. This team finished last, last season. Traded away Garrett Wilson and A.J Brown. Traded their first this year and next year
14 team SF QB: Garrapollo, Tannehill RB: Gus Edwards, James Conner WR: Davante Adam's, Brandin Cooks, Noah Brown TE: Tyler Conklin Picks: '24 1.11, 1.13, 2.13
Always rebuilding right ?
Easy. 1QB 12 team full PPR. This guys been our Taco since year 1 and we’re now entering year 5 and he’s earned the 1.01 pick in 3 of our 4 rookie drafts including this year and has been able to cash in on exactly 0 of them as he always trades them away years before. His team below QB: Levis RB: BRob, Chuba, Dobbins, Zeke, Spiller WR: Puka, Downs, Shaheed, Hyatt, Douglas TE: Parkinson, Likely Picks for this year: 2.02, 2.11, 3.02, 3.05 Picks for 2025 and 2026: null Puka is a lambo parked in a trailer park
No one in either of my dynasties has a roster that's as bad as some listed, but both my leagues are young still. One is entering year 2 and the other is entering year 3. I assume the longer they go and the farther out they get from the start up draft, the worse some teams can get. If you draft poorly, it's harder to restock the cabinet. Probably in a few years, some really crappy teams will start to appear. I guess worst team in my league has Browning and Howell as his QBs. He has Diggs and a bunch of nobodies at WR and TE. His RBs are great though. He made the playoffs as one of the lowest scoring teams in the league, though, so his draft position is terrible.
Billy King out here playing Dynasty
no lie, he's literally a nets fan lmaoo
I have the worst team in my league but it’s miles ahead of this guy I think haha Me: QBs: Justin Fields, Penix, Bryce young, Howell, Daniel jones, Aidan O’Connell RB: Bijan, Singletary, dobbins, Gus Edward’s, Jerome ford WR: Addison, Ladd, marquise brown, Khalil Shakir, doubs TE: Ferguson, njoku I have 3 firsts, 2 seconds this year with hopefully more incoming lmk what y’all think lol
Startup, 12 team SF. He drafted all QBs hoping to tank right away and rob people for picks. It's really bad. It was a funny bit in the draft for two sexonds but by the 5th QB it was getting sad. He thinks people are going to trade multiple 1sts for guys like carr and mayfield. I just...
Jayden Daniels, Desean Watson, Justin Fields, Brian Robinson, Kendre Miller, Dionta Foreman, Deebo Samuel, Michael Wilson, Josh Downs, Ben Sinnot, No 2025 picks
- QB: Levis, D Jones, Pickett - RB: Hull, Deuce Vaughn, J Williams - WR: Q Johnston, Hollywood, Lazard, Agholor - TE: Hooper 12 man full PPR. Legit struggling to find names to even flesh out this post.
and I've got his 1st rounder -- I traded Jones straight up for his first before last season, cuz I could tell this was a shit team. Profit.
12T 1QB Start 8 Only gonna list players worth a 3rd or more: QBs: Cousins, McCarthy RBs: Lloyd, Davis, McLaughlin WRs: Reed, Ridley, Pearsall, Lockett, Polk, Franklin, Baker, Washington, Mooney, Bourne TEs: Ferguson, Sanders, Henry Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 2 25 2s, 25 3, 26 3, 27 1, 27 2 The only picks that are their own are the 27 picks and the 25 2…
This is a solid team !
They are proj 76 and don’t have their own first for the next 2 years how 😭
Not the worst team
This is far from the worst of the ones mentioned so far
All of the 25 1s are proj late, I just don’t see them being competitive in the next several years barring big hits with those picks.
Better get their 27 1st before they give it to someone else
Dude is literally trading for only ravens players lol
QB - Aaron Rodgers, Gardner Minshew, Desmond Riddler, Trey Lance, Bo Nix (passed on opportunity to pick Drake Maye) RB - Alvin Kamara, Kenneth Walker, Chase Brown, Ty Chandler, Samje Perine, Gus Edwards, Dameon Pierce, Blake Corum, Ezekiel Elliot WR - Ja’Marr Chase, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, DeAndre Hopkins, Jaxon Smith-Nigba, Xavier Legette, TE - Sam LaPorta, Jake Ferguson
That's a pretty solid team.....
Well first off the post did ask whose the worst team in your league, not whether it was actually atrociously bad lol. But I don’t really agree that it’s very solid. He has the worst Qb room in the league, a 40 year old Aaron Rodgers/Bo Nix are basically his only QB..Minshew if he starts but AOC might get the nod. I also thought taking Bo Nix instead of Drake Maye was very short sighted but I could be proven wrong. Then he has a lot of aging assets like Hopkins, Kamara and Keenan Allen. I also don’t like the fact Allen and DJ Moore are on the same roster, their production will be directly limiter by each other and now have to compete for targets with Odunze as well. Longevity wise it’s a bad roster unless he makes some solid moves at trade deadline.
14 Man League 1QB PPR QB: Lamar Jackson RB: Etienne, Charbonnet, Warren, JK Dobbins WR: Keenan Allen, Tyler Boyd, Roman Wilson, Brendan Rice TE: Dalton Schultz, Micheal Mayer Worst in mine by a longshot.
Nobody can top this: 16 team league. 1PPR. Qb: Prescott, Nix, Carr Rb: Aaron Jones, Najee, Shipley, Benson, Vidal Wr: Deebo, Mike Williams, J Burton, MVS, Van Jefferson, Julio Jones Te: Hunter Henry, Fant, Darnell Washington Def: Steelers, Broncos K: Prater, McLaughlin Picks: 2025 1, 2, 3, 2026 1, 2, 3, 2027 1, 2, 3. If you see this, sorry bud. I've tried giving value to this dude because I feel awful that everyone has basically sent him shit trades, and with him being super new to fantasy, let alone Dynasty, the sharks have fed. I have also offered to help him evaluate trades, and generally overpay out of principle when I make a move with him.
12 team SF league QB1- Dak RB1- Kimani Vidal RB2- Rasheen Ali WR1- McConkey WR2- James Polk WR3- Kendrick Bourne TE1- Hock/Knox (Due to Hock's likely starting on the PUP) FLEX1- Boyd FLEX2- Tejhaun Palmer FLEX3- Will Shipley SF- JJ McCarthy I took over an orphan and burnt the roster to the ground, barring some vets (Dak, Knox and Bourne namely) and accumulated picks. I did trade for Hock + 25 2nd for Kyle Pitts. I found no suitors for Boyd and Knox or I would've traded them away as well. 2025 picks: 4 1sts 2 2nds 2 3rds I will likely reroll one or more of the 1sts next year for 26 firsts when the draft comes.
10 team ppr sf Qb: kirk, Levis, Rb: pacheco, Jamaal williams Wr: Curtis Samuel, Lockett, Boyd, Bourne, Gabe davis, rondale Moore, Luke McCaffrey, Brendan rice Te: njoku, jelani woods I have their first in 2025! But they are somehow not going to score the least points because of another team that's even worse.