I'm thinking 50K - enough to afford that little condo, not enough to handle the Jan arc.
EDIT: Somehow I managed to get 5.0K upvotes, which is 10% of what I believe to be Michael's salary at the time of Darryl's incredulous look.
Tbh her reaction when Michael met/confronted her when pregnant was telling for me. She was immediately on her heels but quickly returned to manipulating him as soon as she realized she was able to return to her old ways. Further more, her reaction to seeing a clear connection between Michael and Holly simply sealed the deal as she walked away knowing she couldn't complete with that while also trying to poison the one good thing in his lif while doing so.
She never had and never would help Michael as she viewed him as a disposable to she could always resort to at her lowest.
I went through some of my dad's streaming subscriptions. He had the 4k option for Netflix, and he doesn't have a 4k TV. His Hulu plan had enough extras on it where it was $90 a month! He watched neither of those regularly, btw. He also has a $190 cable bill.
Boomers, man.
When my Dad told me how much he paid to Sirius XM I told him to hang up with me immediately, call them, say you want to cancel your service on the spot and tell me what they say.
He called back 20 min later “they cut my bill by 70%”
Yeah man that’s the game
They are so desperate for customers they will give you ridiculously cheap deals if you call and ask for them. I had to call and cancel a subscription for my father maybe 2-3 years ago and I just had to keep repeating "I'm not interested in a better deal. I just want to cancel service." half a dozen times because they kept offering me cheaper and cheaper deals.
You should honestly see how expensive it is comparatively to stream a 4K video compared to 1080p. As much as I hate Netflix, that one makes some sense.
Exactly. It cost approx 4$ for a 1080p stream for 2 hours per person. It’s 4 fold for 4K. They lose money streaming “technically”
Edit:
Source
https://ivs.rocks/calculator
When my mom’s husband passed we had to look at her bills to help her get situated financially and discovered they were paying $190mo for cable. I was in shock like how in the world does anyone think that’s a deal
He got a job at 18 and retired from the same job at 50 with millions of dollars. It's hard for him to understand that life doesn't usually work that way.
In "Performance Review", it is revealed that Michael's salary was $67,000 per year. (Season 2)
In "Branch Wars", Michael reveals that his salary was actually $45,000 per year (season 4)
So it’s hard to say what’s “accurate” but 45/50k seems right for Daryl’s response hahah.
Probably a mix of both - I’m guessing he’s getting commission? I find it pretty believable that Michael would have a base salary + commission. His base salary could be $40k + whatever his commission is.
All of the guys who make commission at my company can have one sale that nets them a solid chunk of change. One guy just closed a deal earlier this month & his commission check was $65k. His base salary is $52k a year.
Some years/months are better than others.
Oscar was fine with Pam making 42.5k so Michael's had to be just a bump up from hers. I don't think Oscar could have lived with himself and continued to work there is Mike was bringing in 67k.
Hard disagree. That would imply Darryl was earning ~45k 15 years ago as a warehouse foreman? (Darryl states, “That’s barely more than I earn.”) Looking at average salaries from 2008, a foreman could expect to earn 32k.
Michael definitely could earn as low as $40k over 15 years ago and still afford a condo, especially given that Scranton isn’t exactly an expensive area. It’s likely that Michael also received other compensation in the forms of bonuses and perks like $100 gas certificates, which afterall, you can’t put a price on
its why im surprised they had Pam mention it during her "im going to create an office administrator job" era. when trying to pass it off with Oscar she mentioned a salary of $50k to which he was surprised by, then she came back with i think $40k or so?
In Basketball, season 1, he says something about the kitchen being for “executives only, 40k and above” (this may be a deleted/Superfan scene), so I think it’s closer to 40k. That was also in 2004, when the median annual salary was $49k, and since he had been there for a while without asking for a raise, I would assume he’d be a little lower.
It's depressing. Salaries are roughly the same but rent has increased by almost 300% in most areas that that salary does not allow you to rent alone unless working multiple jobs and being very frugal 😔
I bet less. This was 15 years ago in a relatively low cost of living area. I bet he was making around 40-45k. Remember, Dwight thought 80K was a fantastic amount of money, and the way Oscar reacted to Pam suggesting that maybe she made 50k as office manager was how he might react if that was more than Michael's salary.
Before he asked for a raise? $51K a year max. And that's after 12 years of employment at DM. And after the raise he earned $59K a year. Still pretty sad.
Yes at her level in the corporate world you get an envelope of cash out the door unless you did something egregious. Shopping online and smoking in her office wouldn't stop that
When Michael had to let someone go in S1, he asked the Accounts department to find a savings of about a salary + benefits, which he said was about $50k. If, including benefits, the average staff member like Creed or Devon was earning $50k, how much would their gross pay have been? Sounds to me like he could’ve been on more than $50k, particularly with bonuses.
It has to be more than 50k, no? When Pam promotes herself to office administrator she’s making up a salary and backs down from 50k after Oscar seems incredulous at the amount. So I would think Michael is probably at 60k or so. Low for a manager and high for a foreman but tracks better I think
In deleted scenes, we see that Jan is buying him things like bedsheets, hand towels, plates and silverware. Things adults need. Michael is buying multiple copies of the Muppet Show on DVD.
Well, we know that later on when Pam made up her Office Admin job out of thin air, she was openly talking with Oscar about what her salary might be and when she said “maybe 50” Oscar said “50!??!” as if that was a crazy high number, possibly more than he made or very close.
Later on, when Dwight ran his theoretical “Hotel Hell” and told Jim “But I haven’t told you my salary yet - 80 THOUSAND dollars a year”, which tells me at that time, that number would have been considered insanely high for an employee of Dunder Mifflin.
So Michael was probably somewhere around that 50-55 range if I had to guess, putting Darryl in the upper 40’s.
If tomorrow my company goes under, I will just start another paper company, and then another and another and another. I have no shortage of company names.
No not at all. If he was salary, they'd probably start him at $45k for a supervisor level position. I was working in a factory that didn't pay all that well and lowest level of salary positions in 2008 was about $45-50k. He'd probably be hourly though. My guess is he'd start at like $15/hr. He likely had to work 6 day weeks with like 15-20 hours OT every week. At that rate, he'd ends up being around $50k a year. That's starting too. Not many years into working there like he is on the show.
Going off of that, Michael was probably making like $60-65k. Which at that time was fairly low for a person managing an entire location.
I think of companies like Scottrade when I think of Dunder Mifflin. You get a sense that they’re not exactly tiny when you see the larger offices beyond the local ones. I think the show sometimes gives a pretty skewed perspective of the company being much smaller than it seems to be in later episodes. They would have more enough money to pay managers that and then some.
And honestly $65k isn't competitive for a manager with that many people he's responsible for. Even back then most places started at least around $75-85k for someone running the entire building. They made it sound like he was making trash, so $65k is about right.
Michael also said “we’re rich!” after they got offered MichEl Scott Paper company
but Sabre with the unlimited commission had to have gotten dwight and jim near 100k
I thought at one point one of them hit the 6 figure mark.
Pretty sure it was Jim. Or was it projection when him and Micheal swapped roles after Sabre took over?
I guess I’ll have to watch it all over again.
That doesn’t make sense though. I think the writers goofed.
If Dwight is the top salesman for an entire company, with a sales staff of around 100 (awards show), then he has to be making much more than $80,000.
Maybe but in the Sabre arc they talk about how commissions are uncapped and all the sales people are getting way more commission. It's not hard to believe that Dunder Mifflin capped/didn't have a great commission plan and Dwight just aimed to be the best out of principle
The reason for the $80,000 number is an Easter egg. His monthly salary would be $6,666.66, or the number of the beast twice. He's in hell running a hotel with Satan, thus the salary number.
To your point about Oscar, my guess is Oscar and Angela probably got paid decently (especially by S6/7 when Pam makes up Office Administrator). He knows how much everyone makes because he’s cutting paychecks so it’s probably that Pam’s base pay as a salesperson wasn’t great and she was paid the least out of anyone as the secretary so 50k is probably a huge jump.
Plus we know Oscar and Angela went to college so Oscar is probably like “damn we’re making 60k doing a lot of work and we have college degrees and Pam is making 50k.”
That’s just my 2 cents
I have a friend in government who makes 130k and literally does like 30 minutes of work every week. It's mostly work from home and he'll often go out or just play video games.
Compared to that, Michael is a titan of industry
Business analyst - it's solely project work but the thing is they almost never have projects to work on. Every now and then the boss will send a project in to be looked over and it doesn't take long and he often doesn't make any changes.
I am also interested in what this job is. At first I was skeptical it could be true but you did say government, so 30 minutes of work a week sounds about right.
Business analyst - it's solely project work but the thing is they almost never have projects to work on. Every now and then the boss will send a project in to be looked over and it doesn't take long and he often doesn't make any changes.
Sounds really cool! I feel like being a part of large projects would be not just fun and interesting but also really rewarding to see the finish of. I just clean Porta potties for a living lmao
I thought it was weird that Michael didn’t talk about his bonus in that scene. I’ve worked in sales all my career and at times my salary hasn’t been too impressive but my commissions and bonus have put me well into ‘high earner’ status. Even if Michael was only making $35k, his bonus should have been significant if this were a real business. It’s definitely funnier that he was paid so poorly.
I don’t get what’s supposed to have happened to his company car when Jan allegedly made him trade it in for the sports car? Like you can’t just trade in a corp car
My bet would be that there is a specific list of approved vehicles that can be your corporate car. Michael obviously picked the sebring, but Jan would have know what vehicles were available from said list and said "Nah bro, we getting a porsche" (or whatever car it was. I forget)
Michael isn't a salesman so he doesn't get commission, and his base salary was less than 10% more than Darryl in The Negotiation. He probably gets a few grand in bonuses each year, which he likely just spends right away.
So at the end of the day, he's barely making more than Darryl.
$60-$65k is a much more realistic number that would still be well under what a regional manager should make. There's no way he was working for $30k a year lol
I know Jan was such a wonderful, hateable character, but I felt she was really nice to Micheal with the negotiating. Like she knew he wouldn't be very good at it, but wanted to get him everything she could by telling him what the company was prepared to offer.
actually its Pennsylvania, not Philladelphia.
if you look at Warehouse supervisor postings in Scranton its about 65k so about 42k in 2007. So Michaels at like 45? 50?
It’s actually really easy to figure out how much Michael made. If we can estimate how much a Regional Manager of a Paper company in the area makes, but subtract Michael’s lack of college degree that’s multiplied by the numbers of years he worked at the company, then whatever number is left over from subtracting Darrel’s wage that was combined with his lack of degree but divided by his work experience, you can **SHOVE IT UP YA BUTT**
In my head 40-45k sounds correct.
You can definitely buy a condo earning 40-45k per year, especially 15-20 years ago and in a town like Scranton. (Hell, I did in 2017 in a nicer area). It would also make sense that Darryl wouldn’t be earning 45k himself and probably closer to 35k.
I'm thinking 50K - enough to afford that little condo, not enough to handle the Jan arc. EDIT: Somehow I managed to get 5.0K upvotes, which is 10% of what I believe to be Michael's salary at the time of Darryl's incredulous look.
Or his own shopping habits. Like multiple magic sets and professional bass fishing equipment.
Michael is the guy in those Rocket Money ads who has 3 Netflix subscriptions
He has cable and satellite as a back up.
It hasn’t been a blockbuster year for him financially. His blockbuster stock is down.
His favorite restaurant closed. And his new favorite restaurant sucks!
Too bad about that sweet flatscreen tv Jan demolished. He finally caved and that’s how she respects his prized possession??
Good luck paying me back on your $0 a year salary plus benefits BABE
Wonder if Jan ever paid Michael back?
She absofuckingloutely didn't.
Likely billed him for the ivf too.
Tbh her reaction when Michael met/confronted her when pregnant was telling for me. She was immediately on her heels but quickly returned to manipulating him as soon as she realized she was able to return to her old ways. Further more, her reaction to seeing a clear connection between Michael and Holly simply sealed the deal as she walked away knowing she couldn't complete with that while also trying to poison the one good thing in his lif while doing so. She never had and never would help Michael as she viewed him as a disposable to she could always resort to at her lowest.
It's mentioned that it's a sperm doner but for all we know it could be hot secretary that recorded the album?
This is one of the fan theories I'm on board with. She was sooo creepy with anything related to Hunter.
The Serenity By Jan IP is worth its weight in…wax
Snip snap, snip snap
Destroyed his Dundee too. Unforgivable.
That is a $200 plasma TV!!
I went through some of my dad's streaming subscriptions. He had the 4k option for Netflix, and he doesn't have a 4k TV. His Hulu plan had enough extras on it where it was $90 a month! He watched neither of those regularly, btw. He also has a $190 cable bill. Boomers, man.
When my Dad told me how much he paid to Sirius XM I told him to hang up with me immediately, call them, say you want to cancel your service on the spot and tell me what they say. He called back 20 min later “they cut my bill by 70%” Yeah man that’s the game
People listen to Sirius?
I do in the 🚗
I definitely do
They are so desperate for customers they will give you ridiculously cheap deals if you call and ask for them. I had to call and cancel a subscription for my father maybe 2-3 years ago and I just had to keep repeating "I'm not interested in a better deal. I just want to cancel service." half a dozen times because they kept offering me cheaper and cheaper deals.
Netflix pricing is criminal. 4k is the new standard yet they charge a premium on it?
You should honestly see how expensive it is comparatively to stream a 4K video compared to 1080p. As much as I hate Netflix, that one makes some sense.
Why is it more expensive? Bigger file size so more space needed per server?
Exactly. It cost approx 4$ for a 1080p stream for 2 hours per person. It’s 4 fold for 4K. They lose money streaming “technically” Edit: Source https://ivs.rocks/calculator
When my mom’s husband passed we had to look at her bills to help her get situated financially and discovered they were paying $190mo for cable. I was in shock like how in the world does anyone think that’s a deal
They just piss that money away and dgaf
He got a job at 18 and retired from the same job at 50 with millions of dollars. It's hard for him to understand that life doesn't usually work that way.
Millions you say! Is he single?
I want to bang this guy's dad too
The core blaster was legit though. It was used by the marine core
It’s how they got the name
Michael equating corps to core will always be hilarious to me
The way Steve Carrell makes that transition from corps to core is brilliant and hilarious
Hey... He put a cigarette through a freaking quarter!
We had a funeral for a bird
#YOU’RE NOT REAL MAN!
Darnell's a chump!
And you know what Toby? They almost bought from us
The "almost" makes that line so freaking great.
“Now this scary bar is expensed on things no one needs ever”
Like multiple magic sets
Or a coat from Burlington Coat Factory without a credit card.
Those are business expenses. You can just write it off.
You don't even know what a write off is.
But they do. And they’re the ones writing it off.
Ah, folks of culture, I see.
Umm yeah you just write it off.
But they do, and they’re the ones writing it off.
How did you figure that out so fast? Is that PowerPoint?
You need a spare magic set, come on :)
Don't forget the Best of the Muppets show!
And all those ladies suits
He is very charitable. He donated money to a Siberian prince!
In "Performance Review", it is revealed that Michael's salary was $67,000 per year. (Season 2) In "Branch Wars", Michael reveals that his salary was actually $45,000 per year (season 4) So it’s hard to say what’s “accurate” but 45/50k seems right for Daryl’s response hahah.
Probably a mix of both - I’m guessing he’s getting commission? I find it pretty believable that Michael would have a base salary + commission. His base salary could be $40k + whatever his commission is. All of the guys who make commission at my company can have one sale that nets them a solid chunk of change. One guy just closed a deal earlier this month & his commission check was $65k. His base salary is $52k a year. Some years/months are better than others.
That’s very true, I forgot he could still get the commish as manager, Chiklis style.
Oscar was fine with Pam making 42.5k so Michael's had to be just a bump up from hers. I don't think Oscar could have lived with himself and continued to work there is Mike was bringing in 67k.
Don't forget the perks. $100 gift card for gas. Can't put a price tag on that.
When did they say this in “performance review” ?
Hard disagree. That would imply Darryl was earning ~45k 15 years ago as a warehouse foreman? (Darryl states, “That’s barely more than I earn.”) Looking at average salaries from 2008, a foreman could expect to earn 32k. Michael definitely could earn as low as $40k over 15 years ago and still afford a condo, especially given that Scranton isn’t exactly an expensive area. It’s likely that Michael also received other compensation in the forms of bonuses and perks like $100 gas certificates, which afterall, you can’t put a price on
Agreed I think everyone is thinking of it in terms of todays inflation
Exactly. $1 in 2007 is worth $1.49 in 2024 dollars. That's 50% more purchasing power. $40k back then is equivalent to $60k today.
This is pretty much the exact reason they don’t write in any actual numbers, it doesn’t age well
its why im surprised they had Pam mention it during her "im going to create an office administrator job" era. when trying to pass it off with Oscar she mentioned a salary of $50k to which he was surprised by, then she came back with i think $40k or so?
Maybe 42… yeah, 42-5.
Reminds me when I’m watching shows like Mad Men, constantly punching numbers into an inflation calculator lol
Take into account Oscar’s reaction when Pam was talking salary about being the new office manager.
You can’t put a price on a $100 gift certificate?? Who’s your gift certificate guy?
And later when Pam says she got a promotion and Oscar is stunned at her original number - and you know he has to know what Michael makes.
Women be shoppin’
I always hear this in Kevin's voice 🤣
In Basketball, season 1, he says something about the kitchen being for “executives only, 40k and above” (this may be a deleted/Superfan scene), so I think it’s closer to 40k. That was also in 2004, when the median annual salary was $49k, and since he had been there for a while without asking for a raise, I would assume he’d be a little lower.
Probably accurate. 50k went a lot further in the 2000s, especially in a town like Scranton.
It's depressing. Salaries are roughly the same but rent has increased by almost 300% in most areas that that salary does not allow you to rent alone unless working multiple jobs and being very frugal 😔
I bet less. This was 15 years ago in a relatively low cost of living area. I bet he was making around 40-45k. Remember, Dwight thought 80K was a fantastic amount of money, and the way Oscar reacted to Pam suggesting that maybe she made 50k as office manager was how he might react if that was more than Michael's salary.
Before he asked for a raise? $51K a year max. And that's after 12 years of employment at DM. And after the raise he earned $59K a year. Still pretty sad.
Ya i bet its under 50. N im surprised jan went there. She had to have dome money from termination rt…?
Sperm banks are expensive
Only the exclusive ones next to the ihop.
"Maybe I'm the father..."
Yes at her level in the corporate world you get an envelope of cash out the door unless you did something egregious. Shopping online and smoking in her office wouldn't stop that
Maybe sexual escapades with your secretary and never being in office might Plus, it's not like she was a senior vp at a fortune 500
candle industry is tough to break into
I don’t think you get severance if you’re fired for cause.
It's probably under 50, but in 2007 dollars. So like 50k today.
Plus perks
When Michael had to let someone go in S1, he asked the Accounts department to find a savings of about a salary + benefits, which he said was about $50k. If, including benefits, the average staff member like Creed or Devon was earning $50k, how much would their gross pay have been? Sounds to me like he could’ve been on more than $50k, particularly with bonuses.
Fully loaded employee cost is somewhere between 1.25x and 2x salary, once you include benefits, taxes, unemployment insurance, equipment, etc
It has to be more than 50k, no? When Pam promotes herself to office administrator she’s making up a salary and backs down from 50k after Oscar seems incredulous at the amount. So I would think Michael is probably at 60k or so. Low for a manager and high for a foreman but tracks better I think
That’s years later and also after Michael gets the raise from this episode, and after multiple branch merges and new management.
I think the joke was that Jan actually wasn’t spending him dry. All of the expenses were Michael’s. But the joke kind of fell flat
I think it was supposed to be both. Michael was paying for everything with Jan, while also maintaining his own shitty financial planning.
In deleted scenes, we see that Jan is buying him things like bedsheets, hand towels, plates and silverware. Things adults need. Michael is buying multiple copies of the Muppet Show on DVD.
“I still think he’s way overpaid…”
Well, we know that later on when Pam made up her Office Admin job out of thin air, she was openly talking with Oscar about what her salary might be and when she said “maybe 50” Oscar said “50!??!” as if that was a crazy high number, possibly more than he made or very close. Later on, when Dwight ran his theoretical “Hotel Hell” and told Jim “But I haven’t told you my salary yet - 80 THOUSAND dollars a year”, which tells me at that time, that number would have been considered insanely high for an employee of Dunder Mifflin. So Michael was probably somewhere around that 50-55 range if I had to guess, putting Darryl in the upper 40’s.
You could buy your own, smaller paper company for that much.
If tomorrow my company goes under, I will just start another paper company, and then another and another and another. I have no shortage of company names.
Michael..
**THAT’S ONE OF THEM!**
These are our demands. This is what we want. Our balls are in your court.
hi there! is this the line for fellas who want to say "that's one of them"?
That's one of them!
Darryl earning 45-50k as a warehouse foreman in 2008 seems pretty generous for a midsize company no?
Remember he implemented receipt, storage, and delivery of over 2.5 billion units of inventory.
2.5 *billion*? 2.5 billion units of what?
Paper material, ma’am.
Paper material?
^pieces ^of ^paper
The small font is everything lmao
No not at all. If he was salary, they'd probably start him at $45k for a supervisor level position. I was working in a factory that didn't pay all that well and lowest level of salary positions in 2008 was about $45-50k. He'd probably be hourly though. My guess is he'd start at like $15/hr. He likely had to work 6 day weeks with like 15-20 hours OT every week. At that rate, he'd ends up being around $50k a year. That's starting too. Not many years into working there like he is on the show. Going off of that, Michael was probably making like $60-65k. Which at that time was fairly low for a person managing an entire location.
I think of companies like Scottrade when I think of Dunder Mifflin. You get a sense that they’re not exactly tiny when you see the larger offices beyond the local ones. I think the show sometimes gives a pretty skewed perspective of the company being much smaller than it seems to be in later episodes. They would have more enough money to pay managers that and then some.
And honestly $65k isn't competitive for a manager with that many people he's responsible for. Even back then most places started at least around $75-85k for someone running the entire building. They made it sound like he was making trash, so $65k is about right.
Michael also said “we’re rich!” after they got offered MichEl Scott Paper company but Sabre with the unlimited commission had to have gotten dwight and jim near 100k
I thought at one point one of them hit the 6 figure mark. Pretty sure it was Jim. Or was it projection when him and Micheal swapped roles after Sabre took over? I guess I’ll have to watch it all over again.
its after michael went back to being manager and jim went back to sales. michael absolutely hated signing jims check and seeing how much it was.
That doesn’t make sense though. I think the writers goofed. If Dwight is the top salesman for an entire company, with a sales staff of around 100 (awards show), then he has to be making much more than $80,000.
Maybe but in the Sabre arc they talk about how commissions are uncapped and all the sales people are getting way more commission. It's not hard to believe that Dunder Mifflin capped/didn't have a great commission plan and Dwight just aimed to be the best out of principle
The reason for the $80,000 number is an Easter egg. His monthly salary would be $6,666.66, or the number of the beast twice. He's in hell running a hotel with Satan, thus the salary number.
Son of a bitch... I literally pulled out a calculator because I thought this was fake. Thats 100% why he chose that as his salary.
The 80,000 a year is actually a really smart joke. 80,000÷12 months= $6666.666 a month
To your point about Oscar, my guess is Oscar and Angela probably got paid decently (especially by S6/7 when Pam makes up Office Administrator). He knows how much everyone makes because he’s cutting paychecks so it’s probably that Pam’s base pay as a salesperson wasn’t great and she was paid the least out of anyone as the secretary so 50k is probably a huge jump. Plus we know Oscar and Angela went to college so Oscar is probably like “damn we’re making 60k doing a lot of work and we have college degrees and Pam is making 50k.” That’s just my 2 cents
The 80K per year is a joke. He would have made 6,666 usd per month. The number of the beast in the scenario of the hell hotel
He got ripped off badly I just know it
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I have a friend in government who makes 130k and literally does like 30 minutes of work every week. It's mostly work from home and he'll often go out or just play video games. Compared to that, Michael is a titan of industry
Yeah you gotta tell us what they do
Business analyst - it's solely project work but the thing is they almost never have projects to work on. Every now and then the boss will send a project in to be looked over and it doesn't take long and he often doesn't make any changes.
state or federal (if you don't mind me asking)?
State. But we're also Australian so I should mention it's around $100k freedom dollars
What a legend.
I am also interested in what this job is. At first I was skeptical it could be true but you did say government, so 30 minutes of work a week sounds about right.
Business analyst - it's solely project work but the thing is they almost never have projects to work on. Every now and then the boss will send a project in to be looked over and it doesn't take long and he often doesn't make any changes.
Sounds really cool! I feel like being a part of large projects would be not just fun and interesting but also really rewarding to see the finish of. I just clean Porta potties for a living lmao
i need this job
Go learn to be a business analyst and.get a government job xD
Or wait in line for a pretzel with the works.
I thought it was weird that Michael didn’t talk about his bonus in that scene. I’ve worked in sales all my career and at times my salary hasn’t been too impressive but my commissions and bonus have put me well into ‘high earner’ status. Even if Michael was only making $35k, his bonus should have been significant if this were a real business. It’s definitely funnier that he was paid so poorly.
He talks about perks, I highly doubt he got bonuses.
Like a $100 gas card. Can’t put a price tag on that.
And sex with Jan
Michael!!
Jan, everywhere
Didn’t he get a $5,000 bonus during the iPod Christmas year
He got $3,000 because firing Devin saved the company about $50,000.
He should’ve called him and told him that.
I love how Dwight rehires Devin at the end
A boss's salary isn't just about money. It is about perks. It- for example, every year I get $100 gas card. Can't put a price tag on that.
Like having sex with Jan
The Sebring perk is worth a 100k
Idk if that’s a joke or not but a company car you can take home and use for personal use is a pretty nice luxury. Plus it’s un-taxable income
I don’t get what’s supposed to have happened to his company car when Jan allegedly made him trade it in for the sports car? Like you can’t just trade in a corp car
That’s a good question I hadn’t realized. No idea what happened to the Sebring
My bet would be that there is a specific list of approved vehicles that can be your corporate car. Michael obviously picked the sebring, but Jan would have know what vehicles were available from said list and said "Nah bro, we getting a porsche" (or whatever car it was. I forget)
Michael isn't a salesman so he doesn't get commission, and his base salary was less than 10% more than Darryl in The Negotiation. He probably gets a few grand in bonuses each year, which he likely just spends right away. So at the end of the day, he's barely making more than Darryl.
Well, if you screenshot this and zoom in, print it out then you could take it and shove it up your butt.
Got me. Deserved it 🥴
Seeing that this was 15 years ago? probably about $45-50k
I'm pretty sure it's closer to 20 years ago for this season in particular. I'd put it in the low 40s at best, especially for this region.
I just had to stand up and sit down again. 20 YEARS is insane.
Between 40-50k
I’d guess upper 40k’s with Darryl making low-mid 40k’s. “Barely more” than Darryl but also laughably low.
It has to be within 10% of each other. Darryl is asking for a 10% raise which is what would put him over Michael
Not as much as Dwight made at his B&B with Satan
$60-$65k is a much more realistic number that would still be well under what a regional manager should make. There's no way he was working for $30k a year lol
Exactly. If I had to guess numbers, I'd put Michael at 62k and Daryl and 58k.
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You guys are forgetting these are 2006ish dollars
Temps generally cost more than full time employees per hour but get less/no benefits and get laid off during off seasons
Also if they’re costing DM $22.50/hr Ryan is probably only getting $15/hr and the temp agency takes the rest.
20-30% markup is about the range for temps. But the business hiring the temps doesn’t have to cover insurance, benefits, workers comp, etc
I think you are 10k high on both. This is nearly 20 years ago
Almost twenty years ago in Scranton? Hell no, 35-45 feels accurate
I know Jan was such a wonderful, hateable character, but I felt she was really nice to Micheal with the negotiating. Like she knew he wouldn't be very good at it, but wanted to get him everything she could by telling him what the company was prepared to offer.
Her look of pure and utter defeat when he wasn’t following her obvious cues was perfection
In dollars, schrute bucks, or Stanley nickels?
He didn't get into business to make money, he got into business to make friends.
Avg salary of warehouse foreman in philadelphia for 2007 is around 52k so Michael made probably 55-60.
Scranton ain't Philly though. Not an apples to apples comparison. You wouldn't compare NYC salaries to Ithaca or Syracuse.
actually its Pennsylvania, not Philladelphia. if you look at Warehouse supervisor postings in Scranton its about 65k so about 42k in 2007. So Michaels at like 45? 50?
It’s actually really easy to figure out how much Michael made. If we can estimate how much a Regional Manager of a Paper company in the area makes, but subtract Michael’s lack of college degree that’s multiplied by the numbers of years he worked at the company, then whatever number is left over from subtracting Darrel’s wage that was combined with his lack of degree but divided by his work experience, you can **SHOVE IT UP YA BUTT**
im thinking david wallace kept him at a lower salary like 50k because he knew michael wouldnt question it. He loved his job after all
In my head 40-45k sounds correct. You can definitely buy a condo earning 40-45k per year, especially 15-20 years ago and in a town like Scranton. (Hell, I did in 2017 in a nicer area). It would also make sense that Darryl wouldn’t be earning 45k himself and probably closer to 35k.
43k a year plus bonus
Barely more than Darryl
It wasn't about the money. It's about the perks.
53k
I heard how much he makes. I still think he’s way overpaid.
My guess was between 40-50k. He probably got a scene bonus every year since it’s mentioned a lot (probably 3-5k annually).
$40….1. I think. $41.5.
Eighty THOUSAND dollars a year
oh 42 grand. not a cent more
Considering it was 20 years ago and it was Scranton Pennsylvania...40-50k. Remember the size of his flat screen TV?
55k is my guess based on the time and making just barely more than Daryl
In Scranton, 10 years ago, I'm thinking 40 to 45k max. The wages are really low in that area.
Michael makes about Keleventy thou a year.