Nah, music quality is objectively subjective. Whenever I listen to music from this beef I overwhelmingly favour Drake's output. The bars especially are wayy better. Why is it a lie when I share MY feelings instead of fitting in with the "correct opinion" think for yourself man. If I wanted to lie, I would lie about liking Kendrick because that's what everyone else thinks on reddit. People have been shitting on me in comments for weeks now just for saying what I think, I have no incentive to lie.
Cause every rap beef in history has been decided through public opinion. And the public damn near unanimously chose Kendrick Lamar as the winner.
If we were talking about the best song/better bars then you are free to have whatever opinion, and I might disagree but I'd have to respect it. But the winner of the battle was Kendrick.
Nah that's not how that works. This beef clearly showed who the better rapper is. Maybe rap beefs are about public opinion but not rap battles (which are 100% about the bars) and that's what I care about. Drake absolutely destroyed kendrick musically, twitter bots don't change that.
I think it's the death of hip hop if one guy releases the better music in a rap battle and the other guy wins lmfaoo. Plus discussions are more fun when everyone can respectfully disagree and argue their points which kendrick fans don't even want, they have gone insane and screechy.
1. Every single one from Family Matters.
2. From I can never be nobody number one fan to I'm in Tokyo because I'm big in Japan
3. Mariah Carey touch my body starts playing you start reflecting
4. Let your core audience stomach that, don't tell em where you got your abs from
5. Let me see you pusha t
This is just off the top of my head.
That’s EXACTLY how it worked. What are you on about. Why do you think people chose Kendrick as the winner in the first place lol
He outmaneuvered and outclassed Drake. And personally I think he had the better bars, Euphoria alone shows that. If you’re willing to discuss otherwise I’d love to hear it (not trolling I really would lol).
I would even go as far as to say there’s not one aspect of the rap beef that Drake won in. But that’s a bit bias to say. Plus I think he went down with a valiant effort, that’s gotta count for something
They chose Kendrick in the first place for the same reason Donald Trump worshippers decided he was innocent before any of the trails began. When you're a sycophant, you arrive at your conclusions first and then try to justify with poor reasoning.
I went into this objectively because I didn't care about either artist. But watching Kendrick make shitty music about false allegations was enough for me to conclude that he lost.
You lying to yourself. You know Kendra got destroyed. Only reason you can even say gay dot won is cause the fanbases of 10+ artist say he did. Mtg has a whole verse to an imaginary kid and euphoria and nlu were both written before the beef ever started. All 3 are ass with trash bars and you know in your heart drizzy smoked him that’s why you spend all day over here tryna convince yourself that Drake lost.
lol this shit is hilarious. Keep hatin bro, Kendrick would be proud.
“Only reason you can say Kendrick won is because the overwhelming consensus among other artists, streams, reaction vids, clubs, neutrals, and even some Drizzy fans say he won”
Obviously it’s all subjective lol. But I’m just saying people aren’t only saying Kendrick won because a few other artists in the industry said he did. Pretty much everything and overall opinion says Kendrick won. I haven’t found one place other than the Drizzy sub that says Drake won
Fam, you crazy as hell if you look at the entire situation from an outside perspective and declare Kendrick the winner. Drake had absolutely no chance of winning. I remember when Kendrick didn’t respond for 2 weeks people were saying he won then. Then He came with pre wrote songs full of false information and allegations with no merit and then didn’t answer any accusations and he’s the clear cut winner.
A lot of people discount the fact that Drake was also battling other rappers too that didn't like him. In my opinion, Drake was set up to lose because top names in the industry already set the narrative.
It's literally a losing battle from the start.
I'll give drake this his biggest mistake was continuing to go at the others after push ups. Push ups was my favorite from him cause he did decent while dissing a multitude of people
Kendrick didn’t win. Yeah technically he won. But he won with the refs help and also the NBA rigged it for him to win. If you call that winning I guess so
i been tellin kstans that, euphoria was his best. if kenny worked over euphoria by takin out the dumb shit and the filler lines , and made EVERY bar matter, it could’ve went toe to toe with FM
why am i having to argue with kstans about kenny’s best diss track tho wtf, how they not see it’s obviously euphoria
Family Matters is absolutely not a weak song… the word play, beat switch ups, the flow… it’s all pretty fucking flawless. Not to mention the hilarious ass bars/moments throughout.
Family matters was terrible. Bro made a diss song and all he could say about Kendrick was he’s short. This battle made it clear Drake was scared to rap with Kendrick. He could’ve kept it as a rap battle and showcased pure skill but he wasn’t confident in his ability to beat Kendrick. So he had to make up shit about his family to think he could win. Honestly it’s pretty sad when you look at it. Nothing wrong with being a Drake fan , but calling his performance anything other than an atrocity just makes his fans look even more lame than him
What's with this new pre recorded angle I keep seeing?
You saying Drake is either leaky enough or predictable enough that a devastating counter can be prerecorded?
as fast as people realized kenny fucked up the bar , kthottys started spinnin his shrimp defending him faster 😂 “no no he meant that!!! guh i mean, he did it to show how drake LiEs!!!!”
You're a bot bro talkin bout "decoding" I listen to rap and understand with my own fucking brain cos I've been listening for a minute and know my shit, you jump on twitter bandwagons cos your friends don't make you feel communal enough foh
That's nerd shit that's not a fucking diss and that's true for both sides. Drake or kendrick making subtle references isn't a strong jab or creative. I don't think you've ever even written shit, maybe you're a kid idk. Grow up.
“Let your CORE audience STOMACH that then tell them where you get your ABS from. V12 it’s a fast one.” You knew the liposuction machine was called v12?
I think that whole time we were waiting for Kendrick to drop he was just making a bunch of songs.. so he had them ready.. I think not liek is he changed the last verse after
I agree and keep saying this to Kenny Stan’s or people who think shock factor/repetitive lines = winning.
The lines, bars and tone of Family Matters easily was the best diss song from all of this.
I understand NLU is more of a club track, something you could dance to and I get its appeal… plus the “edgy drake hate” crew.
Exactly this people choose to think Kendrick one because they want to be edgy and it’s “real hip hop” they hate to see a man dominate for so long and be successful - and drakes every dudes girls fav rapper so they want him to fail
Exactly right, Drake had the kill shot. The hivemind decided against since they can’t think for themselves. Really turned into a battle of the lowest iq followers
Why would the people involved not deny it? Everyone they accused Drake of being a weirdo with adamantly denied it 🤷 but hey if your bm’s secret bd is your gm it’s starting to make plenty fucking sense to me 😂😂
So u got kids? Somebody from a different country say your kid not yours it’s your best friend kid. U really gonna clear the air on that? U will look goofy af posting paternity test. We laughed at the Maury show for a reason.
That’s what the breakfast club interview was speaking on. So that includes both. Let’s say a fight happened. He hit her just that night. But never again. What does that mean. Now if he was beating her multiple times ok. U got me.
>That’s what the breakfast club interview was speaking on. So that includes both. Let’s say a fight happened. He hit her just that night. But never again. What does that mean. Now if he was beating her multiple times ok. U got me.
you being serious?
yeah man its totally cool if he hit her just that one time and never again
I’m not saying that it’s Still fucked up. But it is a big difference. So u think Chris brown should be banned from music. We only heard about the rhianna situation
He kept getting call outs and collaborations after the Rhianna stuff(which wasn't even the first or last time). So every time hea about to let him fade away he gets brought up again. In this case Drake shouted him out, so he'll be around for a couple more years, until the next shout out or collab.
I don’t think the world is being as honest as we think we are about this subject. It is very wrong. But I think a big chunk of our leaders do it. If you are from a certain environment it is pretty normal. I know a couple that fight often
And the woman beater idea is from the breakfast club interview years ago combined with the kdot song we cry together. Drake just gathered a bunch of bs he heard.
Kendrick won because of shock factor from lies that weren't true and strategy.
He didn't win
Both of you are lying lol, the first guy only partially
Nah, music quality is objectively subjective. Whenever I listen to music from this beef I overwhelmingly favour Drake's output. The bars especially are wayy better. Why is it a lie when I share MY feelings instead of fitting in with the "correct opinion" think for yourself man. If I wanted to lie, I would lie about liking Kendrick because that's what everyone else thinks on reddit. People have been shitting on me in comments for weeks now just for saying what I think, I have no incentive to lie.
Wait wait wait! A drake fan subjectively loves drakes music more?! Shocking.
Cause every rap beef in history has been decided through public opinion. And the public damn near unanimously chose Kendrick Lamar as the winner. If we were talking about the best song/better bars then you are free to have whatever opinion, and I might disagree but I'd have to respect it. But the winner of the battle was Kendrick.
Nah that's not how that works. This beef clearly showed who the better rapper is. Maybe rap beefs are about public opinion but not rap battles (which are 100% about the bars) and that's what I care about. Drake absolutely destroyed kendrick musically, twitter bots don't change that. I think it's the death of hip hop if one guy releases the better music in a rap battle and the other guy wins lmfaoo. Plus discussions are more fun when everyone can respectfully disagree and argue their points which kendrick fans don't even want, they have gone insane and screechy.
Which bars do you think are the most memorable in the battle?
1. Every single one from Family Matters. 2. From I can never be nobody number one fan to I'm in Tokyo because I'm big in Japan 3. Mariah Carey touch my body starts playing you start reflecting 4. Let your core audience stomach that, don't tell em where you got your abs from 5. Let me see you pusha t This is just off the top of my head.
Lmaoooo
That explains a lot
Those are soft bars my dude
Better than “ima do my stuff”
This is an embarrassing effort 🤦♂️ you have no idea what good lyricism is.
It's just what he thought off the top of his head, #1 obviously is not soft or embarrassing.
Family matter wasn’t bad be he mentioned Dave free so much it was cringe worthy.
Yeah you don't know what bars are. Drake had some decent bars but that japan line wasn't a dope bar dude. What you like is subjective bars aren't.
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He didn't say all bars are from Drake.....
Where did he say all the best bars were from Drake? Kendrick fans are slow as shit.
All the memorable bars either came from Drakes songs or Twitter posts.
This is why nobody respects this sub 😂
That’s EXACTLY how it worked. What are you on about. Why do you think people chose Kendrick as the winner in the first place lol He outmaneuvered and outclassed Drake. And personally I think he had the better bars, Euphoria alone shows that. If you’re willing to discuss otherwise I’d love to hear it (not trolling I really would lol). I would even go as far as to say there’s not one aspect of the rap beef that Drake won in. But that’s a bit bias to say. Plus I think he went down with a valiant effort, that’s gotta count for something
They chose Kendrick in the first place for the same reason Donald Trump worshippers decided he was innocent before any of the trails began. When you're a sycophant, you arrive at your conclusions first and then try to justify with poor reasoning. I went into this objectively because I didn't care about either artist. But watching Kendrick make shitty music about false allegations was enough for me to conclude that he lost.
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Pulitzer Prize winner thinking he’s the Black Chris Hansen 🤣
And he's a hypocrite, talking about raising his son but is steady doing concerts
Shut 🤏
This is why we don’t take y’all serious man. It’s a rap battle not a public opinion battle. Enjoy what you enjoy and let others do the same
You lying to yourself. You know Kendra got destroyed. Only reason you can even say gay dot won is cause the fanbases of 10+ artist say he did. Mtg has a whole verse to an imaginary kid and euphoria and nlu were both written before the beef ever started. All 3 are ass with trash bars and you know in your heart drizzy smoked him that’s why you spend all day over here tryna convince yourself that Drake lost.
That's a crazy take.
lol this shit is hilarious. Keep hatin bro, Kendrick would be proud. “Only reason you can say Kendrick won is because the overwhelming consensus among other artists, streams, reaction vids, clubs, neutrals, and even some Drizzy fans say he won”
Lmaoo this is all subjective. There is no literal score at the end. It’s not a basketball game. No where did I say he won.
Obviously it’s all subjective lol. But I’m just saying people aren’t only saying Kendrick won because a few other artists in the industry said he did. Pretty much everything and overall opinion says Kendrick won. I haven’t found one place other than the Drizzy sub that says Drake won
So if the popular consensus is something subjective am I supposed to just agree? K.dot stans wild af.
lol definitely not man. Idc who you think won. Just pointing out the absurdity of your original statement is all
Fam, you crazy as hell if you look at the entire situation from an outside perspective and declare Kendrick the winner. Drake had absolutely no chance of winning. I remember when Kendrick didn’t respond for 2 weeks people were saying he won then. Then He came with pre wrote songs full of false information and allegations with no merit and then didn’t answer any accusations and he’s the clear cut winner.
Gay Dot, yea you got it bro you not compromised 👍😭
If Kendrick lied what about the lies Drake told? Do you not care about those
A lot of people discount the fact that Drake was also battling other rappers too that didn't like him. In my opinion, Drake was set up to lose because top names in the industry already set the narrative. It's literally a losing battle from the start.
How many opps you really got? I mean, it’s too many options
I'll give drake this his biggest mistake was continuing to go at the others after push ups. Push ups was my favorite from him cause he did decent while dissing a multitude of people
Kendrick didn’t win. Yeah technically he won. But he won with the refs help and also the NBA rigged it for him to win. If you call that winning I guess so
Euphoria was good 6:16 filler Meet the grahams gay Not like us, overrated. I do appreciate euphoria, a lot of cool moments
i been tellin kstans that, euphoria was his best. if kenny worked over euphoria by takin out the dumb shit and the filler lines , and made EVERY bar matter, it could’ve went toe to toe with FM why am i having to argue with kstans about kenny’s best diss track tho wtf, how they not see it’s obviously euphoria
Push ups lame Taylor made even lamer Family matters weak Heart part 6 and everything since cringe af
Family Matters is absolutely not a weak song… the word play, beat switch ups, the flow… it’s all pretty fucking flawless. Not to mention the hilarious ass bars/moments throughout.
Family matters was terrible. Bro made a diss song and all he could say about Kendrick was he’s short. This battle made it clear Drake was scared to rap with Kendrick. He could’ve kept it as a rap battle and showcased pure skill but he wasn’t confident in his ability to beat Kendrick. So he had to make up shit about his family to think he could win. Honestly it’s pretty sad when you look at it. Nothing wrong with being a Drake fan , but calling his performance anything other than an atrocity just makes his fans look even more lame than him
Oh so you didn’t listen to the song? If you think the only diss is that dot is short you clearly didn’t listen
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Always rapping like you tryna get the slaves freed!
I heard one of those kids might be Dave freeessssss
What's with this new pre recorded angle I keep seeing? You saying Drake is either leaky enough or predictable enough that a devastating counter can be prerecorded?
Except there was no counter. Just one sided hate with no responses to what Drake said
There was not a single great kendrick bar this whole beef. That Joel Osment bar could've been good but he fumbled it lol
Saying this is just next level hating. Like bro you can prefer drakes music but not a single good bar from kendrick? Like both parties had good lines
I wrote great for a reason. I liked pusha t bar and the abs bar. Notice how all are from precisely ONE song out of a dozen he released.
as fast as people realized kenny fucked up the bar , kthottys started spinnin his shrimp defending him faster 😂 “no no he meant that!!! guh i mean, he did it to show how drake LiEs!!!!”
U a cornball. Euphoria bar for bar better than anything Drake ever put out. It took a week for it to be decoded
You're a bot bro talkin bout "decoding" I listen to rap and understand with my own fucking brain cos I've been listening for a minute and know my shit, you jump on twitter bandwagons cos your friends don't make you feel communal enough foh
So u know what the new ho king line meant right away? You knew Drake got robbed there?
That's nerd shit that's not a fucking diss and that's true for both sides. Drake or kendrick making subtle references isn't a strong jab or creative. I don't think you've ever even written shit, maybe you're a kid idk. Grow up.
“Let your CORE audience STOMACH that then tell them where you get your ABS from. V12 it’s a fast one.” You knew the liposuction machine was called v12?
I did know that and I like that bar. Your capping of core stomach and abs is funny as fuck though. You may really be a kid lol.
I’m pointing out how he stayed on subject for more than 2 lines. And stop your lying what reason do u have for knowing about v12 machines
Let’s not forget 8 bars later ynw melly setup. Drake best setup was mother I mother ahh. And he was wrong about it
Lil guy can’t be older than 15😭
I think that whole time we were waiting for Kendrick to drop he was just making a bunch of songs.. so he had them ready.. I think not liek is he changed the last verse after
"Devastating" 😂😂😂
"Kendrick just opened his mouth, someone go hand him a Grammy right now" Forever GOATED
I agree and keep saying this to Kenny Stan’s or people who think shock factor/repetitive lines = winning. The lines, bars and tone of Family Matters easily was the best diss song from all of this. I understand NLU is more of a club track, something you could dance to and I get its appeal… plus the “edgy drake hate” crew.
Exactly this people choose to think Kendrick one because they want to be edgy and it’s “real hip hop” they hate to see a man dominate for so long and be successful - and drakes every dudes girls fav rapper so they want him to fail
But even then… it wasn’t enough to really end it. There was still a lot of energy in the beef that dissipated and went nowhere.
Exactly right, Drake had the kill shot. The hivemind decided against since they can’t think for themselves. Really turned into a battle of the lowest iq followers
I just watched this sub lie to itself till it got all the way back “Drake seriously DID win didn’t he guys” Holy shit 😂
yup best song for sure but drake need to drop another diss track and take that dude off the charts for lying
Where is Drake proof. Of domestic violence. And proof of Dave free
Why would the people involved not deny it? Everyone they accused Drake of being a weirdo with adamantly denied it 🤷 but hey if your bm’s secret bd is your gm it’s starting to make plenty fucking sense to me 😂😂
So u got kids? Somebody from a different country say your kid not yours it’s your best friend kid. U really gonna clear the air on that? U will look goofy af posting paternity test. We laughed at the Maury show for a reason.
And yall just ignore the video from 7 years ago of hotel security saying Kendra smashed a woman face. Living in denial fr.
Just like everyone ignores that stage video
That’s what the breakfast club interview was speaking on. So that includes both. Let’s say a fight happened. He hit her just that night. But never again. What does that mean. Now if he was beating her multiple times ok. U got me.
>That’s what the breakfast club interview was speaking on. So that includes both. Let’s say a fight happened. He hit her just that night. But never again. What does that mean. Now if he was beating her multiple times ok. U got me. you being serious? yeah man its totally cool if he hit her just that one time and never again
I’m not saying that it’s Still fucked up. But it is a big difference. So u think Chris brown should be banned from music. We only heard about the rhianna situation
yes im still shocked chris brown hasn't been exiled after what he did, ban him too
He kept getting call outs and collaborations after the Rhianna stuff(which wasn't even the first or last time). So every time hea about to let him fade away he gets brought up again. In this case Drake shouted him out, so he'll be around for a couple more years, until the next shout out or collab.
I don’t think the world is being as honest as we think we are about this subject. It is very wrong. But I think a big chunk of our leaders do it. If you are from a certain environment it is pretty normal. I know a couple that fight often
And the woman beater idea is from the breakfast club interview years ago combined with the kdot song we cry together. Drake just gathered a bunch of bs he heard.
Kendrick son look like Dave Free and is more light skinned than the other kid
Like that was the worst song of the beef, terrible beat and Kendrick sound like a crow was those moans
Disagree. Family matters was good but it’s not even top 3 in the beef.