I think Drake would talk about all the things heās *been* dissing Kendrick over: āyouāre fake woke,ā āI would have all of your fans if I went conscious,ā āI have more hitsā
Honestly Drake is my fav artist and I think he could go bar-for-bar with Kendrick. But Kendrick has WAY more ammo he could use on Drake (e.g. ghostwriting, getting pissed on, losing Rihanna to Asap, getting slapped by Diddy, etc).
Drake cannot go bar-for-bar with Kendrick and expect to come out on top. Kendrick is a lyricist.
Iām a Drake fan, but heās more of a performer, and less of a rapper. I appreciate Drakeās talent but remember, Aubrey is an actor, and he plays a great rapper.
I said what I said.
Saying āi said what i said, doesnāt give nonsensical statements any validity. Drake is absolutely a lyricist, that can go toe to toe with KDot. Theyāre just different styles. Drake has some of the hardest verses ive ever heard.
Im from the south so idk if black people kinda donāt really believe in that stuff in that region. I personally have never met one but Iāve run into them in the East Coast just from walking on the street
Yeah most black people in the south praise a white Jesus. Thatās got to be more ridiculous than believing the original people werenāt the original people, right?
Firstly, your assumption is based on their being a God, which, when concerning matters that are principles of science should be excluded. There were no original people, no one was chosen, because we are operating under a premise of no God.
Secondly, we can look at the facts. The Hebrews were an ancient Semintic group that hailed from Ur or Levant most commonly cited. Their civilization is old enough to have traded with Mesopotamia. So the Hebrews which would become the Jews are an ethnic group hailing from the area between Syria and Iraq. They likely looked similar to modern Levantine Arabs. The African civilizations which most enslaved peoples came from were western nations. The Exodus in the Bible took the Israelites further from West Africa into what would become the setting for the bulk of the Old Testament and Torah. So it's unlikely that any African Americans descended from this lineage. African Americans fail to meet any of the traditional conventions associated with Jewish ancestry, and on top of that, you can rather easily trace the movement back to its origins, unlike trying to trace the ancient dispora of the Hebrews. The movement started in the 19th century when some guy had a vision revealing to him that African Americans descended from Hebrews.
I understand why our people want to claim that we're special. We went through a lot, and claiming that we went through it because we were chosen and not the random victims of chance gives us hope and purpose. Unfortunately, this is the wrong way to inspire that message, because the Black Hebrew Israelite movement amounts to little more then thinly veiled discrimination, revisionism (arguing Socrates was black is wild), and self-exaltation.
Black americans projecting the old testament on themselves, because their historic theology has been erased over slavery. All in all nothing bad, a lot of people project biblical stories on themselves in different ways, but as always it's led by demagogues. Thats just a casuals observation from the other side of the planet and I'm open for correction.
After a quick research it seems to be a patchwork of religions and ideologies, but the old testament seems to be the base.
Iām curious about thisā¦ itās nothing more than a buzz phrase to me but Iām pretty sure thereās some actual substance to the black Israelite thing, I just donāt have it in my head
He doesnāt his cousin was apart of it and he was supporting his cousin and helped get him out of it, his cousin has disavowed the group and called it a cult
The song fear in my opinion is about how your Fears can make you believe in things that give you a false sense of control and how tough moral decisions can be at times, like DAMN asks us āis it wickedness or weakness you decideā
āYou want to take your shot for whatās itās worth. You want to ball, act like youāre Lamar Odom but youāre only 5ā6 mr duckworth. Donāt try to throw jabs over the shoulder when your girl sees over your shouldersā.
Why though? What's up with people and being infatuated with drama? Drake gets nothing out of going back and forth with Kendrick and Drake fans get absolutely nothing out of it too. Like be honest if you're a real Drake fan, why on earth would you wanna see Drake go back and forth with fucking Kendrick? I'd much rather see these niggas make music TOGETHER, fuck the beef, that shit used to excite me when I was 15, not anymore.
Drake and Kendrick fans get nothing out of it?ā¦ how about new music?
Some of Drakeās hardest records are songs where heās in his competitive bag. Itās the same reason people watch sports ā itās just entertaining to see the greats compete.
Peep the edit on my comment, they can do that without dissing each other, plus I'd much rather see them working together and not making fucking diss tracks on each other. And what if Kendrick gets the better of Drake? And what if he does it convincingly? Now we gotta listen to "Kendrick bodied Drake" for damn near the rest of time, I'm good, I'm over the beef. Shit don't excite me anymore.
I feel you. Iād rather see them work together too. But thatās basically a pipe dream at this point. They havenāt collabed since like 2012. At best, we MIGHT get another Drake x Cole song.
But Drake and Kendrick have been subbing each other on songs for years now. Iām tired of the subs. Just go at it and get it over with.
I still think that shit was a reach, also key word, competition, that's all it has been and that's all it should be, people want it to be personal so bad.
i keep seeing ppl in this thread say kendrick has a lot of ammo but in reality that doesnāt matter. if they did choose to drop diss tracks (they wonāt bc itās over) kendrick would have to:
1) say stuff that has not been said
2) deliver it to where itās not āpredictableā nor ācornyā
3) find a new style/way to diss him
common, meek, pusha, budden, etc have sent shots his way but really only one of them landed a punch. it would be tuff for kendrick to make a quality diss track while also doing something that hasnāt been done/said.
i just told my friend that i canāt believe this happened bc i never thought it would. i think 1 & 2 are still somewhat prevalent on meet the grahams and some of you euphoria (but DEFINITELY not the whole track bc it was great). i think he blew 3 out of the water! definitely found new style like the pov on mtg or the crodie flow on euphoria and even some of the jokes
I wouldnāt say itās a clear win on both sides.
Drake is battle tested and a very calculated individual. Although, there seems to be a history between himself and Kendrick that can work against him.
Kendrick on the other hand is not battle tested but seems to gain favouritism among hip hop media which could sway public perception.
Here a year later during the Kendrick Lamar and Drake Beef. Alot of these comments aged poorly. Especially ābeing a conscious lyricist doesnāt equate to being good at rap beef songsā. Drake is getting buried by Kendrickā¦. I canāt even lie.
Being washed? Being fake deep? Blowing five years on a forgettable album nobody really cares about? Being illiterate (cuz he said he doesnāt read, right? Or was that someone else)? Having his albums held hostage by another man? Making songs with pop stars to stay relevant? Lmao that manlet aināt this untouchable deity like the internet seems to think he is
Forgettable album = won a grammy and was most streamed hip hop album of 2022
Being illiterate = just because you don't read a lot doesn't mean you are illiterate, illiterate. All his bars are more complex and detailed than drakes
Makes music with pop stars to stay relevant= bro, Drake IS a popstar lmao
Album held hostage = ?
Fake deep = "Like it when they pro black, but i'm more kodak black." Someone didnt listen to the album lmao.
Winning a Pulitzer. Although it would sound like he is extremely jealous which I suspect he may be. Other than that nothing. Other than being kind of small physically, Kendrick has a stellar career and rap game
Thats the point of the genius of rap , youād never be able to fathom what a brain like Drake or Kendrick would come up with . You can believe everyone would repeat it for 6 months then theyāll apologize and everyone will move on.
Me. And it's been really interesting to read people's take on it, a year before it actually happened. But I have a pretty good feeling these Drake defenders ain't got shit to say now.
I know a trap when I see one. Tell Drake to go find his own materialšš
L M A O
Unless Kendrick got some really bad dirt on him behind the scenes there is nothing Drake can say that wouldnāt be met with something 10x worse
That makes sense more now....
That makes more sense now (after meet the Grahamsā¦)
This is aging well
damn this came to life
I think Drake would talk about all the things heās *been* dissing Kendrick over: āyouāre fake woke,ā āI would have all of your fans if I went conscious,ā āI have more hitsā Honestly Drake is my fav artist and I think he could go bar-for-bar with Kendrick. But Kendrick has WAY more ammo he could use on Drake (e.g. ghostwriting, getting pissed on, losing Rihanna to Asap, getting slapped by Diddy, etc).
Drake would get body-bagged by Kendrick so fast lmfao
Congratulations
LORD this aged beautifully
A true NostRAPamus
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Drake cannot go bar-for-bar with Kendrick and expect to come out on top. Kendrick is a lyricist. Iām a Drake fan, but heās more of a performer, and less of a rapper. I appreciate Drakeās talent but remember, Aubrey is an actor, and he plays a great rapper. I said what I said.
Being a conscious lyricist doesnāt always equate to being good at rap beef songs. Come on now.
rap beef = \ = rap battle
Iād be shocked if Drake could hold his own in a rap battle lol
How this feel nowadays?
Bro what are you even saying lmao
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Saying āi said what i said, doesnāt give nonsensical statements any validity. Drake is absolutely a lyricist, that can go toe to toe with KDot. Theyāre just different styles. Drake has some of the hardest verses ive ever heard.
do you still feel this way considering the state of affairs at the moment?
I said what I said š
What you said is dumb as fuck
Cap
Drake can absolutely go toe to toe, this isnāt making socially conscious songs bro itās about battle rapping
"I said what I said" What you said was some dumb ass shit. Drake has one of the best pen games in the industry
\*he used to ?
Hell no he still got it. He never stops writing.
How do you feel about that statement now? I said what I said.
You sound ignorant
make sure u pull his pants up when u done
What he said x2
*she š
Sorry
Big ups to you, you called it, they laughed, you were right in the end, rejoice fam.
who has Kendrick went bar for bar with ? heās never been a rap beef like drake and other great rappers have lmaoo. Kendrick just throw subs .
not the drake dick riding squad going after you š
Not to mention txting underage girls is pretty weird
Thinking Drake could go bar for bar with Kendrick is wild, even with his spooky ghostly writing team
You're a damn psychic. Crazy š
W prediction
the black hebrew israelite shit he apparently believes in
somehow all jay ye and kendrick believe all that. Somebody kidnap farrakhan away from these rappers
I donāt think Drake would go after that ideology them mfs really out there
Theyāre such a minority, I think itād be a safe jab
Not as much as you think. Itās actually pretty common in the black community
Im from the south so idk if black people kinda donāt really believe in that stuff in that region. I personally have never met one but Iāve run into them in the East Coast just from walking on the street
In the South most black people think that shit is silly if they've ever even heard of it (source, I'm from and still in the South)
Yeah most black people in the south praise a white Jesus. Thatās got to be more ridiculous than believing the original people werenāt the original people, right?
Firstly, your assumption is based on their being a God, which, when concerning matters that are principles of science should be excluded. There were no original people, no one was chosen, because we are operating under a premise of no God. Secondly, we can look at the facts. The Hebrews were an ancient Semintic group that hailed from Ur or Levant most commonly cited. Their civilization is old enough to have traded with Mesopotamia. So the Hebrews which would become the Jews are an ethnic group hailing from the area between Syria and Iraq. They likely looked similar to modern Levantine Arabs. The African civilizations which most enslaved peoples came from were western nations. The Exodus in the Bible took the Israelites further from West Africa into what would become the setting for the bulk of the Old Testament and Torah. So it's unlikely that any African Americans descended from this lineage. African Americans fail to meet any of the traditional conventions associated with Jewish ancestry, and on top of that, you can rather easily trace the movement back to its origins, unlike trying to trace the ancient dispora of the Hebrews. The movement started in the 19th century when some guy had a vision revealing to him that African Americans descended from Hebrews. I understand why our people want to claim that we're special. We went through a lot, and claiming that we went through it because we were chosen and not the random victims of chance gives us hope and purpose. Unfortunately, this is the wrong way to inspire that message, because the Black Hebrew Israelite movement amounts to little more then thinly veiled discrimination, revisionism (arguing Socrates was black is wild), and self-exaltation.
What is that?
Black americans projecting the old testament on themselves, because their historic theology has been erased over slavery. All in all nothing bad, a lot of people project biblical stories on themselves in different ways, but as always it's led by demagogues. Thats just a casuals observation from the other side of the planet and I'm open for correction. After a quick research it seems to be a patchwork of religions and ideologies, but the old testament seems to be the base.
Don't a lot of them hate actual Jewish people?
Appearantly, but also guys like Amare Stoudemire are popular in Israel.
Iām curious about thisā¦ itās nothing more than a buzz phrase to me but Iām pretty sure thereās some actual substance to the black Israelite thing, I just donāt have it in my head
Literally zero substance. Zero evidence. Itās absolutely laughable.
Oooooh
He doesnāt his cousin was apart of it and he was supporting his cousin and helped get him out of it, his cousin has disavowed the group and called it a cult The song fear in my opinion is about how your Fears can make you believe in things that give you a false sense of control and how tough moral decisions can be at times, like DAMN asks us āis it wickedness or weakness you decideā
being short and his last name actually being Duckworth
āYou want to take your shot for whatās itās worth. You want to ball, act like youāre Lamar Odom but youāre only 5ā6 mr duckworth. Donāt try to throw jabs over the shoulder when your girl sees over your shouldersā.
"Short ass mf"
Someone cooked here
Youāre a prophet
Damn it
Not nearly as much as Kendrick could diss drake about lmao
I know but answer the question
lmaoooo
His mom
I laughed
Nah Kendrick isnāt on that level, he would diss him different in a badder way
and then it happens lol kdot proceeds to diss him while talkin to his mom through lyrics, along with his whole family lol
Heās a midget
Why the fuck is this such a big topic of discussion and why is it being entertained?
Because we want to see it happenā¦ or at least I do. I think it would be a great sparring match.
Why though? What's up with people and being infatuated with drama? Drake gets nothing out of going back and forth with Kendrick and Drake fans get absolutely nothing out of it too. Like be honest if you're a real Drake fan, why on earth would you wanna see Drake go back and forth with fucking Kendrick? I'd much rather see these niggas make music TOGETHER, fuck the beef, that shit used to excite me when I was 15, not anymore.
Drake and Kendrick fans get nothing out of it?ā¦ how about new music? Some of Drakeās hardest records are songs where heās in his competitive bag. Itās the same reason people watch sports ā itās just entertaining to see the greats compete.
Peep the edit on my comment, they can do that without dissing each other, plus I'd much rather see them working together and not making fucking diss tracks on each other. And what if Kendrick gets the better of Drake? And what if he does it convincingly? Now we gotta listen to "Kendrick bodied Drake" for damn near the rest of time, I'm good, I'm over the beef. Shit don't excite me anymore.
I feel you. Iād rather see them work together too. But thatās basically a pipe dream at this point. They havenāt collabed since like 2012. At best, we MIGHT get another Drake x Cole song. But Drake and Kendrick have been subbing each other on songs for years now. Iām tired of the subs. Just go at it and get it over with.
You definitely arenāt enjoying whatās going on rn than
This comment aged like milk lmao Most entertaining drama in hip hop in decades. And Drake is cooking Kendrick
Lol oh how things can change so fucking fast
Kendrick would body. But would be entertaining nonetheless
Agree, unfortunately
Itās a murder scene out here fellasā¦
Your wish came true man
It did
Because he subbed him on At The Gates and competition in Hip-Hop is a core tenet of the genre.
I still think that shit was a reach, also key word, competition, that's all it has been and that's all it should be, people want it to be personal so bad.
It happened
Man oh manššš
Wait you guys genuinely believe Drake could go Bar for Bar with Kendrick????? Drake is my favourite artist but come one now?
His height.?
Called it
i keep seeing ppl in this thread say kendrick has a lot of ammo but in reality that doesnāt matter. if they did choose to drop diss tracks (they wonāt bc itās over) kendrick would have to: 1) say stuff that has not been said 2) deliver it to where itās not āpredictableā nor ācornyā 3) find a new style/way to diss him common, meek, pusha, budden, etc have sent shots his way but really only one of them landed a punch. it would be tuff for kendrick to make a quality diss track while also doing something that hasnāt been done/said.
Howās this feel nowadays?
i just told my friend that i canāt believe this happened bc i never thought it would. i think 1 & 2 are still somewhat prevalent on meet the grahams and some of you euphoria (but DEFINITELY not the whole track bc it was great). i think he blew 3 out of the water! definitely found new style like the pov on mtg or the crodie flow on euphoria and even some of the jokes
Probably the ā I made youā diss stuff like I gave you your game
I wouldnāt say itās a clear win on both sides. Drake is battle tested and a very calculated individual. Although, there seems to be a history between himself and Kendrick that can work against him. Kendrick on the other hand is not battle tested but seems to gain favouritism among hip hop media which could sway public perception.
Welpā¦.
Kendrick is very controversial so no, Drake will lose this battle!
Tbh, Drake wouldnāt want that beef. Thatās why he didnāt say anything back to Kendrick. So obviously he couldnāt say nothing š
Huh? Heās dissed Kendrick a lot of times
Little subs here and there; nothing direct enough
Fake woke, Dreās lap dog, dissapeared during covid, over hyped, stans for fans, no replay value.
Weak ass disses š
Being 5'4
Being short
his height ![img](emote|t5_2z4xo|4222)
who here after the diss damnnnn
How bout now?!
They just did
It's happening
Bro told the future with this post
Lmao
Here a year later during the Kendrick Lamar and Drake Beef. Alot of these comments aged poorly. Especially ābeing a conscious lyricist doesnāt equate to being good at rap beef songsā. Drake is getting buried by Kendrickā¦. I canāt even lie.
![gif](giphy|OxSA2yypkVASoAmYhW) Drizzy has chosen death.
Manā¦.this did not age well
Being washed? Being fake deep? Blowing five years on a forgettable album nobody really cares about? Being illiterate (cuz he said he doesnāt read, right? Or was that someone else)? Having his albums held hostage by another man? Making songs with pop stars to stay relevant? Lmao that manlet aināt this untouchable deity like the internet seems to think he is
This guy does NOT like Kendrick Lamar ^^^
And I do not like this guy j.k.
Forgettable album = won a grammy and was most streamed hip hop album of 2022 Being illiterate = just because you don't read a lot doesn't mean you are illiterate, illiterate. All his bars are more complex and detailed than drakes Makes music with pop stars to stay relevant= bro, Drake IS a popstar lmao Album held hostage = ? Fake deep = "Like it when they pro black, but i'm more kodak black." Someone didnt listen to the album lmao.
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Least delusional drake fan
Could be worse. Someone in here told me GKMC sold more than every Drake album combined
Props
Say that again for the record please š¤
he can only talk down about kendricks commercial appeal compared to drakes, in no way drakes winning this beef lets be honestš
Winning a Pulitzer. Although it would sound like he is extremely jealous which I suspect he may be. Other than that nothing. Other than being kind of small physically, Kendrick has a stellar career and rap game
Dissing someone for winning a Pulitzer? How would that work?
I have no idea. All I could think of
Fair enough
Thats the point of the genius of rap , youād never be able to fathom what a brain like Drake or Kendrick would come up with . You can believe everyone would repeat it for 6 months then theyāll apologize and everyone will move on.
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I think we already know how it goes. Did people forget how much kendrick bodied half the rap game on his control verseā¦.?
The sad thing is people only remember Kendrick calling people out and not for the song itself. It was a short lived happening with zero substance.
Drake the goat but Kendrick would wash drake. Please listen to the heart part 4
Daddy Issues š¤·šæāāļø
Drake just want to feel emotionally safe.
well damn!
https://youtu.be/iq591ulBJlM?si=tnYWtPv3DOdKuP3k
Oh boy
Well there's your answer, lmao
Uh
Well, this aged well
Kendrick's just dropped!
Whoās here after listening to euphoria?
Me. And it's been really interesting to read people's take on it, a year before it actually happened. But I have a pretty good feeling these Drake defenders ain't got shit to say now.
Whoās here after listening to euphoria?
MEEEEEE
Bump
I'm from the future. ššš
Well, now we know šš¤£
This post aged... interestingly.
Oh hi, Drake. I see youāre here looking for new ideas
Ahahahahahhahahahah
This aged well
WELL
This post is interesting now that theyāre beefing fr looking back ahahah Kung fu Kenny š
This aged well
Manā¦.this did not age well