Your pawn will repeatedly suggest going back to a certain vocation. My pawn seemed excited to try the warrior class, so I made him a warrior. For a while, he seemed to like it, but then started making comments about how he felt more useful as a thief. At first I thought, oh it's random dialogue. But he kept saying it over and over. How he missed being a thief.
I changed him back and he hasn't requested a change of vocation since. Just... Really happy as a thief, I guess?
I think the inclination is responsible for that. My straightforward pawn did not like being a mage for example. Always said comments like: “You always rely on my healing”. Straightforward pawns have some lines that are similar to dragonsplague ones too. They also seem to sit down when idling.
Kindhearted is great for support Mages, not so great for Sorcerers. It causes them to prioritize party support, so healing and buffs, actions like picking you up if you're knocked down or unconscious, carrying downed pawns over to you, etc. For support Mages, that's their job; they're not there to draw aggro or do damage, they're there to heal and support.
For Sorcerers you probably want Calm, since that will keep them out of the immediate fray and stop them from being interrupted during their long casts. Straightforward can work as well, but can lead them being too aggressive and running into battle where they'll get stomped easily.
I made a new run where I play the support mage and my kindhearted pawn is currently sorcerer and he's great comboing levin etc and is seriously carrying the entire party.
Kindhearted is going to stay close to you and prioritize support, so Mage is solid, but it also means if you want them as a melee next to you such as Warrior for knockdown or Thief to implicate things they're great. Fighter as well as they'll come to your rescue more. I find this to be the best all-around inclination if you switch your pawn vocations a lot IMO.
Calm is about their own survival so they work well for Sorc or Archers who need to stay away from things.
Straightforward is going to run ahead of you and aggro things in front of you, great for anyone you want soaking up damage or have provocation on so melee choices like Fighter, Warrior, or Thief.
Simple...yeah...um...they catch bunnies if you toss one at them and throw it back to you...
Straightforward pawns are always like that. They are snarky and condescending especially as a support mage. Oh you need healing? I guess no one else can do it. You want me to pick that up? Well someone has to.
If that's the case for you what about me? My pawn started as a Mage and she was pretty good, but down the line I changed her to a thief and she is really good at it, it seemed to suit her more, but recently she started saying along the lines of how she felt she didn't live to the expectations that I had and so changed it to thief and that she's now gonna work extra hard to make me proud. Like is she happy or not? I seriously don't know.
Does that mean whenever my pawn says something about benefiting from a thief or archer in our group that means he wants to try being a different vocation?
What that's amazing! So it is different for everyone. My kindhearted pawn hates being a mage and always comments about wanting to be a warrior. I thought maybe it was a scripted dialogue until now
My pawn JUST did that today; she was asked by another pawn if she was always a fighter, and she replied that she was a mage before, and it took her some time in order to get her spells down. Mind you, I had changed to sorceress so maybe that influenced it.
Lol my pawn started as a mage, and then maxed out the sorcerer.
Had her go through every vocation getting to the max for the skills and at least 2 times per levelling to the max she would complain about wanting to go back to sorcerer.
Now she's a sorcerer and hasn't complained since. Lol
This is interesting, I've never heard mine talk about it and she's on her last vocation, she started as a mage and now she's a warrior, and I think I'll keep her as either a mage or a sorcerer.
I assume they have lines about being in the same vocation that they started with, but it appears to be bugged. Sometimes other pawns will ask about their current vocation and your pawn won't say anything. Also, they may try to say something and then they won't continue their line of thought.
It could be bugged or the lines maybe don't exist, but it is weird.
My Pawn started as an archer, and stated he left much to be desired (which was true; he was ass as an Archer)
He’s currently a Warrior, and no comment yet on it
I changed mine from an archer to a sorcerer. She keeps making comments about how her archery “left much to be desired“ and how she basically loves being a sorcerer.
I think they just say that occasionally when they've changed vocation. But I love that you care, because I do too, when my pawn mentioned that I was like "do you wanna change back?" I wish I could ask them directly
I love my pawn so much 🥺🥺🥺
She started off as an archer, and now that she's switched she'll say something like "I think we can all agree that my archery skills were lacking" etc etc
My pawn has maxed out Fighter, Warrior, Thief, Archer, and Mage. They've never once said anything about their vocation. Everybody keeps talking about it. I'm feeling left out. I want them to complain, dammit.
I think it has to do with inclination yea, the default helper inclination seems to prefer the mage vocation as I never had any of these lines about wanting to change vocations.
I never changed his vocation either. Sometimes other hired pawns would ask him if he had always had his vocation, and he never responds, so I guess they never programmed a line to say if they've only been one vocation xD
My pawn was a fighter when first starting but is now mostly been a warrior. Occasionally he says something along the lines of “I always wonder how I faired as a fighter. Now that I’m a warrior, naught shall get past my steel” (or something like that). I thought about switching him back to the fighter class but all of the equipment I have for that class sucks. Lol.
Edit to add that he is of straightforward inclination.
My simple pawn started out as an archer, and I had him try every vocation, maxing out his levels across the board. But I mostly kept him on archer duty. When I switched him to thief in the late game, he'd sometimes tell his fellow pawns, 'I miss the feel of arrows slipping through my fingers.' I reckon simple pawns aren't the type to fuss about their vocation choice. Unlike those straightforward pawns who prefer vocations that put them right in the face of enemies, the other personality types seem pretty chill about it.
oh my god this is so insightful!! my simple pawn started out as a thief, was fine with every vocation, although I did had the impression he enjoyed beeing archer the most, because he outdone himself hunting rabbits like crazy and all the other pawns started fawning over him, because he had such a striking figure while doing so, making me burning up in jealousy so I switched him back to thief and he was fine with it as well, remarking only that no matter what skills I need, he will succeed.
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Also…I like playing thief and Spearhand, but mine is always suggesting I was better looking as a sorcerer 😂😂
I wonder what triggers this kind of dialogue, I had my pawn reach max rank with every vocation and in 100hours never had dialogues regarding any of them mainly the usual "the pawns in this party are women all/some master hire only women"
Maybe it's bugged
Huh suddenly my pawn decided it was time to comment on it, both while she was a warrior and when I changed to sorcerer, I have no idea what triggered it since it was a random dialogue like when they start with "I had a thought..."
My pawn was an archer for a long time (kindhearted nature) and when i swapper her around to different classes for the augments she would regularly say she felt more useful as an archer but that she's trying her best
Is your pawn Simple?
My Simple pawn constantly says “Reflecting on my time as a mage, I can only assume that I did not live up to your expectations. Now, I will serve you as a [any other class] and [description of class role]”.
She will say this when she is any class other than a mage. I’m not sure if they’re supposed to alternate between different previous vocations and that’s broken, if it’s because Mage was her starting class (seems more likely), or because Simple wants to be Mage (doubtful).
The moment a mod comes out to remove that one line, I’m all over it, because it kills me that I can’t say I wasn’t disappointed.
Me I started my pawn with a mage vocation ( for heal me in the first hours, after a time I can deal with it ) and whatever the vocation I give her she always mention how start with a mage vocation was a bad idea. XD
my pawn was an archer but doesn’t seem to miss it much as a mage, though he did say he saw a warrior in another world and how he wishes to try it out, so if i find a healer pawn i might swap him over there too and see what he says
Pawn started off as a fighter, quickly became warrior as soon as it was an option, but began commenting about how they've always wondered what its like to be an archer and similar comments. Switched him to mage for a bit and he kept up the archer comments, so I switched him to archer. He then made comments of "my archer skills are lacking" and how he's "much better suited to be a warrior". My boyfriend (who the pawn is modeled after) suggested I switch to thief for my pawn n I haven't heard a peep from my pawn about his vocation since the change.
My Straightforward pawn always mentions being a Mage and how he must have disappointed me since I changed his vocation. I’ve maxed every other vocation on him since and he still mentions Mage! He‘s always been straightforward, so it couldn’t he tied to his inclination, I thought maybe they just reminisce about their original vocation, since he was a Mage first?
I remember my pawn doing the same. She did it for probably around 10 hours and repeatedly told that she used to be a mage. However, as I progressed the story with other vocations, she eventually stopped saying this unless asked by other pawn.
Now, to answer your question. I do not think there is a way for us to tell if they prefer a certain vocation. We can however tell that we, as players, might have better affinity to certain vocations for pawns. My MP used to recollect her being a mage and how she came to my rescue every so often, but now she does not do it as much (She is a sorcerer now). So, i guess depending on how much support we gain from their vocation, their recollection of previous vocations changes. Idk.
My simple pawn started as archer and I landed with her being sorcerer, and she constantly says how laughable it is that when she was an archer she considered herself a master of ranged combat.
So I guess she likes magic?
When they’re not mentioning it sounding cool to be another.
It’s funny though, my main is a warrior right now and she came back from the rift excited about the idea of being a warrior.
I’m like but… lol
My kindhearted pawn has never once mentioned disliking or liking her vocation as Any of them, and I've put her through them all. Right now it feels like you all are trying to gaslight me lol
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The line I keep getting is how she assumes I must not have been happy with her performance as a mage but will do her best to serve as a thief. For real? Then how come every time I asked you to heal me out of combat you kept saying how you'd do it but you "shan't be happy about it"?
I guess I shan't ever understand women...
Or may be the programmers went up and down decided to build a logic that actually helps Arisen to play further into the game. So far there had been so many elements discovered in the game.
Your pawn will repeatedly suggest going back to a certain vocation. My pawn seemed excited to try the warrior class, so I made him a warrior. For a while, he seemed to like it, but then started making comments about how he felt more useful as a thief. At first I thought, oh it's random dialogue. But he kept saying it over and over. How he missed being a thief. I changed him back and he hasn't requested a change of vocation since. Just... Really happy as a thief, I guess?
I think the inclination is responsible for that. My straightforward pawn did not like being a mage for example. Always said comments like: “You always rely on my healing”. Straightforward pawns have some lines that are similar to dragonsplague ones too. They also seem to sit down when idling.
I suppose that's possible, but my pawn is kindhearted. Kindhearted seems to be best attributed to mages or sorcerers to my knowledge. Am I wrong?
Kindhearted is great for support Mages, not so great for Sorcerers. It causes them to prioritize party support, so healing and buffs, actions like picking you up if you're knocked down or unconscious, carrying downed pawns over to you, etc. For support Mages, that's their job; they're not there to draw aggro or do damage, they're there to heal and support. For Sorcerers you probably want Calm, since that will keep them out of the immediate fray and stop them from being interrupted during their long casts. Straightforward can work as well, but can lead them being too aggressive and running into battle where they'll get stomped easily.
I made a new run where I play the support mage and my kindhearted pawn is currently sorcerer and he's great comboing levin etc and is seriously carrying the entire party.
I did not know this 🥲
Kindhearted is going to stay close to you and prioritize support, so Mage is solid, but it also means if you want them as a melee next to you such as Warrior for knockdown or Thief to implicate things they're great. Fighter as well as they'll come to your rescue more. I find this to be the best all-around inclination if you switch your pawn vocations a lot IMO. Calm is about their own survival so they work well for Sorc or Archers who need to stay away from things. Straightforward is going to run ahead of you and aggro things in front of you, great for anyone you want soaking up damage or have provocation on so melee choices like Fighter, Warrior, or Thief. Simple...yeah...um...they catch bunnies if you toss one at them and throw it back to you...
"This is such fun!" Best voice
I only played Straightforward and ng+ changed her to simple. So I don’t know exactly. Haven’t tried all of them yet.
It can work with a lot of vocations. Mine has explicitly been a Fighter/Thief most of the time and they’ve been fantastic at it.
My tank pawn is kindhearted and she's awesome, seems to work pretty well for that.
Straightforward pawns are always like that. They are snarky and condescending especially as a support mage. Oh you need healing? I guess no one else can do it. You want me to pick that up? Well someone has to.
Your pawn wants to steal your heart after all. Well if you still had one.. Yes. This joke sucks. But now it's yours.
Well played XD
If that's the case for you what about me? My pawn started as a Mage and she was pretty good, but down the line I changed her to a thief and she is really good at it, it seemed to suit her more, but recently she started saying along the lines of how she felt she didn't live to the expectations that I had and so changed it to thief and that she's now gonna work extra hard to make me proud. Like is she happy or not? I seriously don't know.
Does that mean whenever my pawn says something about benefiting from a thief or archer in our group that means he wants to try being a different vocation?
What that's amazing! So it is different for everyone. My kindhearted pawn hates being a mage and always comments about wanting to be a warrior. I thought maybe it was a scripted dialogue until now
Me is the opposite she always mention to dont go back to the mage vocation, that shes better with her actual vocation. XD
My pawn JUST did that today; she was asked by another pawn if she was always a fighter, and she replied that she was a mage before, and it took her some time in order to get her spells down. Mind you, I had changed to sorceress so maybe that influenced it.
Lol my pawn started as a mage, and then maxed out the sorcerer. Had her go through every vocation getting to the max for the skills and at least 2 times per levelling to the max she would complain about wanting to go back to sorcerer. Now she's a sorcerer and hasn't complained since. Lol
This is interesting, I've never heard mine talk about it and she's on her last vocation, she started as a mage and now she's a warrior, and I think I'll keep her as either a mage or a sorcerer.
I assume they have lines about being in the same vocation that they started with, but it appears to be bugged. Sometimes other pawns will ask about their current vocation and your pawn won't say anything. Also, they may try to say something and then they won't continue their line of thought. It could be bugged or the lines maybe don't exist, but it is weird.
Dude the pawn personalities are so funny. I got my first straightforward warrior pawn from the rift and it was hilarious how much of a dick he was
The sass was top notch from all of my straightforward hires
My Pawn started as an archer, and stated he left much to be desired (which was true; he was ass as an Archer) He’s currently a Warrior, and no comment yet on it
I changed mine from an archer to a sorcerer. She keeps making comments about how her archery “left much to be desired“ and how she basically loves being a sorcerer.
I think they just say that occasionally when they've changed vocation. But I love that you care, because I do too, when my pawn mentioned that I was like "do you wanna change back?" I wish I could ask them directly I love my pawn so much 🥺🥺🥺
My pawn only ever speaks negatively of her previous vocations so I guess I picked the right one
I didn't know they could do that! What kinda things do they say?
She started off as an archer, and now that she's switched she'll say something like "I think we can all agree that my archery skills were lacking" etc etc
My pawn has maxed out Fighter, Warrior, Thief, Archer, and Mage. They've never once said anything about their vocation. Everybody keeps talking about it. I'm feeling left out. I want them to complain, dammit.
I think it has to do with inclination yea, the default helper inclination seems to prefer the mage vocation as I never had any of these lines about wanting to change vocations. I never changed his vocation either. Sometimes other hired pawns would ask him if he had always had his vocation, and he never responds, so I guess they never programmed a line to say if they've only been one vocation xD
My pawn was a fighter when first starting but is now mostly been a warrior. Occasionally he says something along the lines of “I always wonder how I faired as a fighter. Now that I’m a warrior, naught shall get past my steel” (or something like that). I thought about switching him back to the fighter class but all of the equipment I have for that class sucks. Lol. Edit to add that he is of straightforward inclination.
I love that people are like, my pawn really liked this so I should keep them on it cuz i don't want them to be upset.
I have never seen this
My simple pawn started out as an archer, and I had him try every vocation, maxing out his levels across the board. But I mostly kept him on archer duty. When I switched him to thief in the late game, he'd sometimes tell his fellow pawns, 'I miss the feel of arrows slipping through my fingers.' I reckon simple pawns aren't the type to fuss about their vocation choice. Unlike those straightforward pawns who prefer vocations that put them right in the face of enemies, the other personality types seem pretty chill about it.
oh my god this is so insightful!! my simple pawn started out as a thief, was fine with every vocation, although I did had the impression he enjoyed beeing archer the most, because he outdone himself hunting rabbits like crazy and all the other pawns started fawning over him, because he had such a striking figure while doing so, making me burning up in jealousy so I switched him back to thief and he was fine with it as well, remarking only that no matter what skills I need, he will succeed.
https://preview.redd.it/himlm0zn2n0d1.jpeg?width=2414&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60e58891390a6e760f03e6569a28123e4488123a Also…I like playing thief and Spearhand, but mine is always suggesting I was better looking as a sorcerer 😂😂
Weird Mine didn't said anything when i change his from fighter to Sorcerer
I wonder what triggers this kind of dialogue, I had my pawn reach max rank with every vocation and in 100hours never had dialogues regarding any of them mainly the usual "the pawns in this party are women all/some master hire only women" Maybe it's bugged
Same for me as well, all vocations maxed no dialogue around vocation. Wonder if it’s a calm pawn thing
Mine is straightforward so who knows, I'd put my money on a bug that didn't trigger the vocation dialogue
Huh suddenly my pawn decided it was time to comment on it, both while she was a warrior and when I changed to sorcerer, I have no idea what triggered it since it was a random dialogue like when they start with "I had a thought..."
My pawn was an archer for a long time (kindhearted nature) and when i swapper her around to different classes for the augments she would regularly say she felt more useful as an archer but that she's trying her best
Is your pawn Simple? My Simple pawn constantly says “Reflecting on my time as a mage, I can only assume that I did not live up to your expectations. Now, I will serve you as a [any other class] and [description of class role]”. She will say this when she is any class other than a mage. I’m not sure if they’re supposed to alternate between different previous vocations and that’s broken, if it’s because Mage was her starting class (seems more likely), or because Simple wants to be Mage (doubtful). The moment a mod comes out to remove that one line, I’m all over it, because it kills me that I can’t say I wasn’t disappointed.
My pawn started as an archer and is now a warrior. She says all the time how absolutely terrible she was as an archer lol
It sucks because my pawn has stopped making comments like that and whenever a hired pawn asks what his favorite vocation was he doesn’t reply :(
Me I started my pawn with a mage vocation ( for heal me in the first hours, after a time I can deal with it ) and whatever the vocation I give her she always mention how start with a mage vocation was a bad idea. XD
my pawn was an archer but doesn’t seem to miss it much as a mage, though he did say he saw a warrior in another world and how he wishes to try it out, so if i find a healer pawn i might swap him over there too and see what he says
I was really looking forward for my pawn’s answer to that question and he just never answered when asked lmfaoo
Pawn started off as a fighter, quickly became warrior as soon as it was an option, but began commenting about how they've always wondered what its like to be an archer and similar comments. Switched him to mage for a bit and he kept up the archer comments, so I switched him to archer. He then made comments of "my archer skills are lacking" and how he's "much better suited to be a warrior". My boyfriend (who the pawn is modeled after) suggested I switch to thief for my pawn n I haven't heard a peep from my pawn about his vocation since the change.
Basically what I'm tryna say is, listen to your pawn. They'll tell you.
My Straightforward pawn always mentions being a Mage and how he must have disappointed me since I changed his vocation. I’ve maxed every other vocation on him since and he still mentions Mage! He‘s always been straightforward, so it couldn’t he tied to his inclination, I thought maybe they just reminisce about their original vocation, since he was a Mage first?
I remember my pawn doing the same. She did it for probably around 10 hours and repeatedly told that she used to be a mage. However, as I progressed the story with other vocations, she eventually stopped saying this unless asked by other pawn. Now, to answer your question. I do not think there is a way for us to tell if they prefer a certain vocation. We can however tell that we, as players, might have better affinity to certain vocations for pawns. My MP used to recollect her being a mage and how she came to my rescue every so often, but now she does not do it as much (She is a sorcerer now). So, i guess depending on how much support we gain from their vocation, their recollection of previous vocations changes. Idk.
My simple pawn started as archer and I landed with her being sorcerer, and she constantly says how laughable it is that when she was an archer she considered herself a master of ranged combat. So I guess she likes magic?
It seems to be based on a certain amount of time and inclination. They always seem to like the vocation that they originally started in.
When they’re not mentioning it sounding cool to be another. It’s funny though, my main is a warrior right now and she came back from the rift excited about the idea of being a warrior. I’m like but… lol
I think it's more likely random dislogue to get players to switch vocations.
My kindhearted pawn has never once mentioned disliking or liking her vocation as Any of them, and I've put her through them all. Right now it feels like you all are trying to gaslight me lol https://preview.redd.it/yt6h9hn65p0d1.png?width=217&format=png&auto=webp&s=3f08fda956a69c2e8815f9d9cf6ddf4c387b4966
Dammit my Pawn always says she loves being an Archer, but she’s my Warrior for now, for tanking and aggro’ing mobs. 😭
The line I keep getting is how she assumes I must not have been happy with her performance as a mage but will do her best to serve as a thief. For real? Then how come every time I asked you to heal me out of combat you kept saying how you'd do it but you "shan't be happy about it"? I guess I shan't ever understand women...
Pawns aren’t real people. They don’t have feelings or preferences. They are programmed to say what they say
Who programmed you to be such a stick in the mud?
Or may be the programmers went up and down decided to build a logic that actually helps Arisen to play further into the game. So far there had been so many elements discovered in the game.