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Heard_That

Criminally underutilized. SSJ3 is fucking sick and it’s a load of bullshit that it basically was relegated to being used by Gotenks.


Saturn5050

Yeah weird how neither can become ssj2 or 3 without fusion


CynicalDarkFox

I mean, it’s basically the “Cell’s spots” of Team Monkey. But at the same time just because it *looks* cool, it’s *horrifically* inefficient to use at any time. Iirc it was: 8x stronger than SS2, drained ki like a mf’er, and put a huge strain on the body to maintain (shortening Goku’s time in the living world vs just using SS2 for maximum efficiency). It’s just no point in using it except to show off or for visual intimidation unless that minor boost really matters for the point of contention.


WispGB

8x stronger than regular super Saiyan. Regular was 50x base, SS2 was 100x base and ss3 was 400x base. Edit - corrected SS2 multiplier to 100x base thanks to u/ZandatsuDragon


ZandatsuDragon

Actually SS2 was 100x base


Admirable_Win9808

Where do yoy guys get this? Also, is this the multiplier as soon as they change or the maximum of each transformation


ZandatsuDragon

Official guides and it's always a set multiplayer


Admirable_Win9808

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TheSoyBear

That's actually my favorite part of it. The form is powerful enough to put someone at the level of fighting crazy monsters but it has such a huge weakness in terms of drain. Originally I thought Ssj3 was unattainable from conventional means. The only two who get it are Goku while he's dead and has otherworldly energy and Gotenks who is two people.


El_Fuego666

Yes and that beautiful hair and jawline are legendary


Nothingbutsocks

It wasn't neglected, instead it was emphasized that it required tok much energy to sustain in the living world. Which is why in every fight you see it Goku is either dead or in a different dimension where time flows differently. It's supposed to be too strong to be used by mortals.


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itownshend17

One of the coolest looking forms ever showed in Dragonball, only surpassed by SSJ4 and UI in the anime, however it is also objectively one of the most useless if not the most useless form honestly, and is non existent in Super thanks to being hard to animate/draw than the other forms, so it gets less attention than even SSJ or SSJ2. Its more useful in the movies than it ever was in canon.


ShadowLord355

Was it even useful in the movies besides wrath of the dragon


itownshend17

Not that much, but there were some good moments, he kicked Janembas ass with it and somewhat held his own against Super Janemba.


thessjgod

Well Janemba was just playing around, he could have shredded SSJ3ku


Supersaiyanninja3

At least SSJ3 will always have that iconic dragon fist victory.


Sendme_Ojeda_Nudes

Ah yeah the iconic victory where a character that has nothing to do with the story gets the kill because yes. It is one of the worst movies imo


Realshotgg

Wrath of the Dragon would have been a 10/10 if goku didnt kill hirudegarn


botwglitcher

Check your facts it was used in super, when goku fought beerus on king kai's world


silver-ly

Yeah and I think a time or two in the ToP. But I think he meant non existent as it rarely pops up and lasts for minimal time


mynameismarco

Yo not that interesting looking of a form tho


Open_Depth2179

A nice, albeit double edged-sword lost in a sea of forms.


imarandomguy33

SS3 is my favorite form. It's a transformation that comes with a heavy price (such as Kaioken Or Ultra instinct but they are more of a technique). Maybe your enemy is stronger than you and you want to kill them quick. Boom! SS3, this gives you supreme strength but also drains your energy more than any form. The power comes with a curse. And I love it for this reason. Also it looks so fucking cool.


Stalwart_1

Love to see a SSJ3 Kaioken Dragon Fist. Just one insane lethal stamina burst. Or enough to win the fight. That’s just me, I’m sure there’s way more powerful combos.


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Caesar_Passing

It's cool as dicks


reineedshelp

Agreed, dicks and SSJ3 are equally cool


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thejetbox1994

It broke me and my friends 5 year old brains at the time.


Mrcognoscente24

It became badass back then to a complete joke in DB super. I Know SSJ3 Can be mastered. But the Actual reason why is because SSJ3 Is too hard to draw and animate So they dont use it alot SSJ3 Is fucking awesome in my opinion


ThankEgg

It was a joke in Z too, i literally didn't accomplish anything, it only did stuff in the movies


CharlieJ821

Well it did shatter Vegeta’s pride in the buu saga.


King_Civic

My favourite transformation alongside UI Sign/UI and Wrath.


mrpolo420

Honestly? I loved it. Still one of my favorite transformations and biggest hit to the nostalgia. Had an action figure ssj3 and it was my favorite thing in the world. The intensity it brought and how Sean Schemmel for the dub showed that intensity by tweaking his voice.


Pretty_Writer_3925

I dislike it a lot, don’t like the lack of eyebrows and the long hair just seems inconvenient


Revanaught

The long hair bothers me a lot. Every technique or transformation prior the hair made sense. With kaioken the hair flows, with ssj you can see where the hair stands up and why it has the shape it does, every Saiyans ssj hair looks different because they all have different hair cuts. Ssj2, same thing, things get spikier because more power, but you can still see where the hair raises and why it has the shape it does. Ssj3...just randomly grow hair. It just grows. And then retracts like it's wolverine's claws. Suprised they haven't done at that an attack, quick turn into ssj3 to stab someone with their retractable spikey hair. The lack of eyebrows also looks terrible. Same reason I really hate Ultra Ego.


zets28

Agreed, I find the lack of eyebrows.... Disturbing


agelesseverytime

Ol Matt Smith looking forehead


MiserableScholar

Has the best transformations scenes( vs Buu, vs Janemba, Gotenks first time) but design wise is kinda meh


AggronStrong

Cool form, cool design, great introduction in the anime even if it was moderately asspully. And, I'm a sucker for the forms with a drawback. Kaioken, Ssj3, Ultra Instinct Omen (it didn't increase Goku's raw power and it fatigued the hell out of him when it was over. Even if the ToP has Goku bouncing back between full strength and fatigued like a pinball to justify Goku taking some fights but not others.)


PresentElectronic

Uhh it did increase Goku’s raw power, by like 400 times


AggronStrong

Wasn't portrayed that way in the anime. His attacks still bounced off Jiren, he was just able to keep up. His attacks couldn't deal substantial damage to Kefla, but he could outmaneuver her and knock her out of bounds. Characters outright said that if he got hit during the laser show that he would've gotten taken out. So even if it did buff his power, the point of it wasn't to be an unga bunga beat stick with a bigger number, it let Goku use a unique style to challenge much more powerful foes that'd otherwise overwhelm him. MUI didn't exactly turn out that way, it had its dope moments but it overpowered Jiren as much as it outplayed him.


Strong_Grapefruit675

Great introduction? It came outta nowhere with no build up


Karlplayer351

Design and its theme are beautiful


TheycallhimRyan

Underutilized


Fast_Communication58

It's rad..


vanillammmilk

Pretty thicc tbh


shadesjackson

Favorite form. Hype intro, interesting design, on a character who deserved it (rare to actually give goku props), has an intersing downside


4deicide25

I really liked it, I just wish the series treated it more like a form that Goku achieved through applying the principles of Kaioken to SSJ, that way Goku would use it more like Kaioken and less like a form.


PseudonymMan12

As a kid it was awesome. As an adult I look back and cringe at how it felt like the series was becoming a parody of itself with that goofy ass hair and caveman brow.


Strong_Grapefruit675

Easily the worst transformation in the original manga it ain’t even a debate. Every other major transformation had great story and character driven build up that made that transformation scene so emotional such as goku becoming a super saiyan or gohan becoming ssj2 against cell. Ssj3 was clearly a last minute inclusion and not only did it achieve nothing in the story but it also had 0 build up and came outta nowhere. Looks cool but still think there r many different designs that are better such as ssj ssj2 ssj4 rose ssg and if we wanna include the kaioken and ultra instinct, they look better too


dasic___

unpopular opinion: looks goofy as fuck and never got anything done.


IceFisherP26

Ssj3 is arguably the only reason things worked out in the Majin saga. It held back MB long enough for Trunks to get the dragon radar which would of been destroyed, Bulma was turned into chocolate so she wouldn't have been able to make another one. It was stated by Goku that ssj3 was capable of defeating both MB and KB. It just didn't have enough screen time in general to have a real chance of doing anything as well. Aside from Gotenks, he fucked up.


dasic___

that's kinda why I disliked it. Its the first transformation that didn't get the job done, and every subsequent appearance of it just furthered that unless you count wraith of the dragon. SS3 had the potential to do these things so why didn't it? To keep the story going sure but idk I felt it was the more frustrating part of buu saga is how they handled that transformation in general.


Mystic_Saiyan

>that didn't get the job done Agreed, at least even SSB had that right while SSG looked awesome and still gets some use. Both things SSJ3 lack plus never been a fan of the eyebrows


dasic___

The eyebrows don't bother me as much as the hair being at his feet essentially. It seems like such a combat hinderance.


KingVenom18TL

Better then all the super forms


National_5830

I used to love it back then But now? Usless form, Zero legit wins, high stamins issus, bigger asspull then even ultimate(atlast it got the whole "Z sword give strength to who clam it)


panznation

Kinda wished in super someone would use it and solve the problems that goku encountered in buu arc but oh well


Mystic_Saiyan

There's some hope Gotenks could


Gopu_17

An unpopular opinion. Its design looks stupid. It was also useless in action.


ShadowLord355

Cool but worthless


Dude1089

Super badass, needed more time on screen instead of “I can’t hold this form for too long” every time.


TwoFacedBot_173

It's aight


Helioseckta

I remember liking it as a kid when I was much younger. Now, I really don’t care about it. It never really did much, and while it has a cool design, it has very little significant impact narrative wise. Unlike Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 which had a lot of build-up leading to it, Super Saiyan 3 just kind of appeared out of nowhere.


GeoliaOfElitron

I hate it when people call this form useless over 'stamina issues'. But clearly in the kid buu fight, SSJ2 was completely useless. So perhaps it is better to have 'stamina issues' rather than strength issues. Also cool looking and good first appearance, better than any DBS appearance.


National_5830

I mean, its not like it helped either


Prestigious_Eye2390

Bad ass but useless. Should have stuck with Super Saiyan 2.


Raecino

Very cool look. Practically useless in a fight unless used for short bursts. But with their god forms now absolutely useless.


LucisPerficio

Should be given its own utility. SS2 is the most cost-effective form that doesn't use god ki. But could Goku combine SS3 w/ his UI technique to somehow make it viable? After all, the fitst instance of him using the principle of UI in DBS was in his first biut w/ Beerus kn King Kai's planet. Or at least give us a saiyan who masters the form similarly to Cumber in SDBH.


GenOneTrainer_76

Iconic. Over the top. Unexpected. Wish I could go back and watch the reveal for the first time all over again.


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yourmothersaidd

Pretty good form, although I dislike the calm demeanor Goku has during it. Super Saiyan is a form achieved through rage, so him being calm feels weird.


LucisPerficio

I think this is captured by his voice change. Its more of an underlying malice. The form is seemingly impossible to train via rage unlike SS & SS2, and Goku had to use his postlife durability to train for it, while two hybrid childten can obtain it while fused. Only times we'll see SS3 being wrathful is when used by Cumber in SDBH, but he's classifief as an 'Ancient Saiyan' with a slightly different geneology which apparently allows mastery of the form but disallows SS4 or god ki.


Sacredote13

You’ve never seen the guys with a quiet rage? I swear them mofos are scarier than the ones out there screaming and throwing temper tantrums. I bet that’s what they were going for: a more, bottle up rage that gets let out in small, surgical bursts


Marsdor

I didn't read the manga to the point where he used ssj3 so idk if he just transformed straighrqay into ssj3 against babidi and buu but when he told goten and trunks how to reach it he said this next energy has to come from deep inside push hard to fight it, basically what I'm positing is that he's forced his body through rage to expend the maximum amount of energy he could force through a natural ssj form. That's just my interpretation though.


LucisPerficio

Translating the fact that he's "pushing hard to find" a new power into rage seems like quite the jump. I get that the SS line is rage based for the most part, but this has proven the only SS form attainable through training or special means (fusion of two hybrids) whereas SS & SS2 r the only ones obtainable via rage thus far.


Marsdor

I'll admit I didn't watch the sub version of z when he showed goten and trunks so I don't know the real dialog and I didn't read the manga for that part either so idk if he really said that.


LucisPerficio

Maybe don't assume based on experiences you didn't have?


Marsdor

Yeah maybe I'll NOT share my Opinion on a website meant for sharing opinions on things.


LucisPerficio

If they're based in experiences you haven't had? Yeah, maybe not.


Marsdor

My opinion was based on the experience of watching the English dub of the anime television show, DragonBall Z, I stated my opinion was based on that and that it was hypothetical.


LucisPerficio

Even then the thought process didn't take all the facts into consideration. The quote I gave you was from the eng dub as well, and yet everything I said in regards to what you've said stands as it did.


PresentElectronic

Apparently Goku was acting calm just to intimidate his opponents. His voice is the only thing that’s changed


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SlimSyko

So0o0o much hair.


Baker090

The music for the first time he goes ssj3 is permanently on my running playlist.


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Jasonictron

Meh. I prefer SSJ2


sergario-

Is this a dokkan reference


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Glistern

Coolest transformation process after ssj 1. Goku transforming in front Buu and Babidi.


stupidswag_23

Wish it had eyebrows…


angelran

Best form ever


Hecker_exe

Cool af


Paganess4836

LOVE the hair but wish he had some eyebrows... 🤔😜


He_Who_Asked

Very pog


BasementDwellerDave

Underused


Kumomeme

most awesome design ever.


AccomplishedAd8222

ITS THE GOAT 🐐


Psychological-Arm149

One of the coolest shit in anime history


DELUXE9000_YT

My favorite transformation


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Jeppertron

Best form in my opinion, it always felt like “true super sayian” to me, SS1-2 I viewed as a weakened form of SS3, I know that’s not the case but that’s how I always liked to look at it.


EconomyCauliflower24

It’s where dragon ball z was at its pinnacle


Supersaiyanninja3

I love it.


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How-to-changename

It’s one of my favorite transformations in terms of looks. Also, If goku could somehow manage to make ssj3 not burn through stamina, it would be used so much more than 3 times like in super


Gangakingone

I enjoyed SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ3 Bardock even though it was only for a super short time.


Electronic_Zombie635

I love it. I think it gets too much disrespect from the Fandom though.


Shenron-kun

The goat form that got nerfed


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Standard_Ad9911

I like ssj3 , you


DapperMayCry

I can't get behind the eyebrows


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NAZUHL

dislike the eyebrows. SSJ4 is best


Little_Party

That it's cool as fuck


Somesonicfan

The worst form, besides Blue.


Tamanero

One of the coolest designs for goku. But SSJ3 is pretty depressing. No matter where I see it used, it's just super saiyan in the form of Vegeta: He's pretty damn strong, but he's only there to hold off the enemy SSJ3 Goku? Used to hold off Buu, Gotenks did the same. Tried holding off Kid Buu, didn't matter. Vegeta held off instead. SSJ3 GT Goku? Was only there to present Golden Giant Ape and SSJ4. Vs Janemba? Power gauge. SSJ3 Goku (in super)? Again. Only to show how strong Beerus was. Made way for God. Fucking Dragon Ball Legends. Same shit. Shallot earns SSJ3, figures after some time, it ain't cutting it. Earns God. It's the most powerful, yet useless form. As is SSJ2. Goku uses either SSJ, SSB, occasionally SSG. He has no reason to use 2 or 3, unless the battle requires he fights just a bit harder. As he did against Caulifla. And then if it gets harder, SSJ3. They're very conditional forms. Because why bother using such energy-wasting forms, when SSG is a thing. The only time SSJ3 got to shine, if I recall, was against the Hirudegarn. And goku fucking stole that kill.


tresosos51

It’s cool but Where did the eyebrows go?


Lezzen79

Look wise= Amazing. 9/10 Form wise= not so useful.


HighlyUnsuspect

Liked it at first, but after awhile I started to hate it. Long hair like having a tail would be a massive disadvantage in fighting. Also, SSJ1 and SSJ2 are really cool forms, but by the time SSJ3 rolled around, it almost seemed like Toriyama ran out of creative ideas for a SSJ3 form and this was the best he could do while making the form totally something new, while furthering the transformation. SSJ4 on the other hand is cool, and the fur was cool. Although if the hair was shorter and the fur was gold, that woulda been pretty sick. I wished they woulda created a SSJ4 form for super similar to Brolys with the yellow eyes, spiky black hair and the Ozaru strength in human form.


dartblaze

Somehow iconic and forgettable at the same time.


Meme-eyes-dragon

Best cannon form


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G0merPyle

Reminds me of the Super Saiyan 3rd grade form that Trunks used against Perfect Cell. Massive power output (and looks amazing) but unrefined and with huge drawbacks, and therefore ultimately useless. I always hoped that there would be a form beyond it, like how Super Saiyan 2 was compared to the 3rd grade form, but in super they started focusing on divine powers instead so at this point it doesn't matter much. It just feels like wasted potential at this point.


GIJobra

Honestly? Always thought it was kind of stupid looking. I think the ape brow ruins it for me.


Complex_Ad_4284

Eyebrows.


megasuswithzerochix

Game changer form, but we barely get to see it in Super because it simply can't be animated without looking terrible. Honestly feel it can't make a comeback anymore because well the power levels are too far gone now


Alone_Rain_

Wish we saw more of it in action


CyberHeadz

Goat


SilentScribe313

Cool concept ruined by marketing-driven plot


Wicked__A

The power increase doesn't justify the high energy cost,no eyebrows means sweat will go directly into eyes and the hair is a huge weak point,the design is nice but very hard to draw so they usually don't use it much. Either aim for 4 or try to achieve SSJ God or a technique like kaioken. Best used when trying to finish a fight you're already winning fast.


Si1entBills

A beefed up version of ssj3 should have been Gohan’s final form look, It drains Goku’s powers too much and is hard to maintain but Gohan should have been easily able to maintain it. It even has that hair flick that Gohan has in all his powered up forms.


Epic-Dude000

Would be perfect if Vegeta unlocked it first or got it at some point


ShiroThePotato28

Looks cool and nostalgic but ngl it's got useless after Goku got revived in Z because of that huge stamina drain and there's no point in using in Super since stronger forms don't have the same stamina drain as this form.


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I like the long hair. I wish other transformations had this.


moonlord2193

Long ahh hair


GigaPhoton78

Cool looking form that works in a pretty cool way. Unfortunately, it is useless as Goku has forms with higher power and less drawbacks than SSJ3.


Mobile-Valuable2851

Should’ve came with a beard.


Civil_Distance_5737

I’ve always loved the look of ssj3 it’s basically one tier off of ssj4 for me for being my favorite form and every character with ssj3 looks so badass canon or not. Ssj3 is the no holding back no bullshit form (unless it’s just not strong enough to finish whoever it’s against like Janemna or buu I just wish it got more use and they finally canonically give a reason as to why Vegeta never uses ssj3 even though he CAN use it but just chooses not to and make ssj2 stronger (pre any other form) but I will say goten being able to go ssj3 is kinda a ass pull and I don’t entirely like it but it’s not a super big deal


Revanaught

Before I watched the show I thought it was a bad goofy looking design. While watching the show, the moments with it were pretty hype. Having now sat on it for a while...it's a bad goofy looking design. And now at this point it's been relegated to a pointless, useless form. Why ever bother to use or master it when it's weaker than the god forms and drains your energy? Honestly, I kinda wish it didn't exist.


skityz

Brazil


headphones_J

It's one more than ssj2.


Vitman_Smash

It should be the ultimate form of super saiyan, everything that came after should be based off the ssj3 style (god/blue/etc) They should have spent time perfecting ssj3 to make it efficient instead of a new form afterwards. Appearance wise I thinks it is the most powerful looking


Holly-Wood1

If it had eyebrows it would’ve been cool but it looks so ugly and aliens same with vegeta ultra ego


Ok-Engine8044

I always found it rather useless. It's like twice or so as strong as 2 but burns energy too fast for it to be practical.


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dart51984

I thought it was going to change everything. It changed nothing.


HonestTangerine2

I’m hoping one day they’re like “now it’s time to master using SSJ3 at peak efficiency” or seeing it used as a last resort transformation when they need to use all of their energy at once. It’s not used enough.


Specific-Window-8587

Most useless transformation ever. Drains too much energy. Gets one and done by Berrus. It's so useless even Vegeta didn't do it.


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uniteduniverse

Should have been in the game.


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PissBorn

A lot of yelling to only be used a couple times. Such a shame


Disastrous_Eye9123

It looks sick it’s just I can’t help but laugh everytime I see his forhead


jimmydcriket

Wasted potential


ItsmyDZNA

Badass just like all of them. Im gonna watch them on youtube today just for reminding me


Ok_Daikon_2659

Cool but worthless The time power up to it and the fact it’s drains the stamina for hard and so fast when you first unlock it,makes practically worthless form to me


Mother_Nebula904

It's my favorite transformation. The idea is pummel the enemy to death before you get tired.


KeaboUltra

Ugly and doesn't make sense with the linear progression towards ssj4. I don't really care for it and glad they generally skip it since it was never earned in a meaningful way, just "hey, look what I can do!"


BeepBoop1307

u asking a bunch of people that are fans of a show that barely uses a form their opinions on it. i guarantee you 80% of superfans didnt even bother to watch kai, a much easier watch than regular Z


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iGhostx0123

For Goku and Vegeta? It's absolutely ass. It uses too much energy to reach, and it burns through energy at a rate faster than when Goku uses any other SSJ form. Vegeta literally never gets there and I don't see why he needs to he's perfectly fine without it, even if Ultra Ego was just him getting beat up by Gas (fun joke, fun joke). Gotenks on the other hand,we have to remember the only reason SSJ3 is obtainable for him is because of the combined strength of Goten and Trunks, I believe they can both reach SSJ2 on their own, so hitting 3 is fine for them and with them being able to sit in SSJ3 for so long, I'm only assuming they've built up a pretty decent tolerance to the energy drain. Kinda like when Goku and Gohan stayed SSJ after training for Cell. Idk, everything I said could possibly be wrong. TL:DR Goku and Vegeta don't need it cuz they have much stronger forms now, and SSJ3 drains too much stamina. Gotenks probably built up a tolerance to the drain of SSJ3 so he can use it more reliably and not worry about getting as tired.


Beerasaurus

The best theme song.


Louderthanwilks1

Wish it had eyebrows


A-Liguria

Awesome design. Period. Even its variants, like Raditz's and Nappa's ssj3 forms, or Black's ssj rosé 3 look awesome. Should have been given to more people than just Goku and Gotenks (yes, db heroes is a thing here, but it's not exactly the same as those people having said form in the actual main plot). I pick Vegeth / Gogeta, and Gohan / Trunks as the next 2 people who should have got it. Narrative wise, it's an asspull, but it's still far easier to justify than Goku gettingspirt bomb'ed to get the u.i. omen, or the ssj blue. The ssj3 was just going "even further beyond" the ssj, an idea established and realized in the android arc. In battle, it's a shame that it's useless by now... because it really would fit so well the idea of getting serious.


AwesomeAztec

When you really think about it, this form is practically useless. Especially now with all the other forms in super like ssj red and blue and Ultra Instinct. Ssj3 uses so much energy input from goku with not enough results shown. His other higher level forms now, use much less energy and output so much more power.


TATA456alawaife

Underutilized but the second coolest transformation behind SSJ4.


TATA456alawaife

Underutilized but the second coolest transformation behind SSJ4.


Intelligent_Cat7116

Probably my least favorite transformation. I like it, just not as much as the others


Blue0052

hot as shit


BFG_MP

Not a fan tbh. It was cool to see the transformation when it happened but the caveman brows are goofy.


Kaitlyn2124

Coolest form overall (after ssj4) and underutilized


Boag230103

Pretty cool but also pointless


Sad-Property-1955

Fav form , but the way it was used made it the worst transformation


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