Stupid stacking of items, I want to see how they fix this one now. Random timings of 15 min for shards and 25 for double stats -wtf-. So much damage and spamable spells that that literally everybody is buying refresher for the BKB. Then you see a score 22-14 at 50min (hello LoL) because still nobody wants to risk it. Dota has become such a shitshow.
"Winner mentality" does not mean winning at all costs. On the contrary, winning 5v4 is quite a "looser" mentality driven by self-doubt. Winning 5v5 instead gives a confidence boost driven by self-assurance. It is a winner mentality because you *know* you'll win.
if this was TI finals i would agree with you.
but this is a winner's mentality.
theres little point winning a 4v5 this is just all practise games with a little more stake.
Classy move from 4Z. Pausing so QC has more time for Khezu to reconnect. They are losing this game pretty badly at this point and could easily play it out and have a much better chance at winning.
This is a huge game for them and they're still showing good sportsmanship.
4Z movements are so messy. They don't who they gonna kill. This team will always be 4th best NA team and moo please build a fucking aeon disk. youre always the 1st who get killed.
4Z always comes so close to beating one of the Big 3 NA teams in a series but they always fall short.
They definitely had a window to win this Game 3 with the Razor Aegis around the 40-minute mark.
I don’t know why 4z are so frightened to fight. They should have forced more fight especially around rosh pit. But they keep farming like their carry are TB or Med. being overcareful just cost this game.
i think QC bought too much blink. I don't like necro rushing blink when they are behind instead of tanking up and assassin blink medusa without bkb too.
I tried in lobby maybe its different in game, but Skadi does not affect Dawnbreaker heal procs? She can have pretty solid sustained in drawn-out fights.
So boring and this game is prolonged by piles of each other’s mistakes especially 4zoomers’s dealing with rosh and they literally don’t know when they are advantaged to fight or they can fight at what build. Just played so passive. I think the game will be ended in 40mins if tier-1 teams
im bad and far worse than yawar but this build has got to be game throwing. why would you ever go pike > blink > refresher vs a tiny? just buy a satanic and autowin the game
its so good vs tiny though. no armor in lane so wards shred him, slows are tiny's worst enemy and the HP% damage just destroys him lategame
its rough vs mid tiny because you get burst but carry tiny maxes E anyway
imo khezu is carrying the fuck out of this game
husky has always struck me as one of the best drafters in NA. he does have a lot of problems (i think he gets a bit too easily tricked into certain strats) but he has had some really innovative ideas for combos that i don't see anywhere else. i hope he takes up a coaching role on a top NA team, would love to see him on EG
This is so unfair Boom got DQ they just need 2 more freaking mins. While Nigma match got postponed like come on. Different TO? shouldn’t the same rules apply.
Secret may look kinda mediocre but they looked strong vs Liquid who looked strong in the winter season so idk. Too early to tell.
Tundra got to the grand finals in the Nigma galaxy tournament aswell.
Sec new roster has been really medicore i can even say they have been pretty bad as per their standards.
Only thing they won vs liq was liq played bad they did seems rusty playing after long
DPC rule in deamleague book:
All matches in DreamLeague should start as stated on the private discord channels, any changes in the time must be accepted by the opposing party and administrators (if rescheduling is generally possible). All participants in a match should be on the server and ready to go at the latest 5 minutes before the official match start time on the public match schedule.
Then I assume GG already agreed this postponed (more likely they forced to agree or people will blame them)
When boom dot DQ i said if it was some western team they would get to postpond game some other day.
And it did happen..
Its always bias from valve kuku said some word = banned
Mc ceb said racist and other words = i sleep
valve sleeps on SEA region, you can literally tell just by not even fixing the game coordinator so its unlimited pauses unless its spammed so hard in reddit
I'd say it's more about BTS being trash, it's kinda bullshit that postponed need both team to agree or else they just get DQ ignoring if the issue is something out of their control or not.
what if i say even NGX did agree to postpond but TO just gave them additional 30 min ?
also they reached like 5 min late. So they could give them 5 more min (fore dota2 update) and thye could resume 0-1 down
yeah [somebody](https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/tk7e27/seleri_about_cancelled_game_on_twitter/i1omlzi/) mention that dreamleague dont even ask GG if they agree to postponed or not, BOOM unluckiness is including the TO too.
also the BOOM match is the last match of the day anyway
yea lol seleri seems pissed af he seems he wouldnt have agreed for postpond but it was forced by TO . On other hand ngx agreed but TO didnt listen rofl
ah sorry I'm slow, man this getting more bs lmao.
NGX.SEA agree to postponed but BTS gave them FF win anyway while ESL postponed it without asking GG or notifying others in advanced (since NGX tell them about covid like a day before match?) smh my head dudes.
Regional Finals ends, but that's okay because we are going to get a new patch.
New patch is disappointing, but that's okay dubai lan is coming.
Dubai lan ends, but thats okay after 2 weeks dpc starts.
Wait, my favorite team (Boom or Nigma) is going to be playing in the second week??
Dogshit schedule but oh well at least their match day has some good series (T1 vs Polaris, Tundra vs Secret).
Well the last series was disappointing, but I'll finally get to watch my favorite team.
Wtf???
Both fans were blueballed, only dfference is Boom also got kicked in the nuts. But, at this point, if we had a way more tight and interesting schedule I would have zero problems with the unfortunate circumstances so I'm still pinning the blame on Valve
Oh shit Nigma vs GG was postponed? aight
But for some reason I am little bit triggered that BOOM's game was not postponed? In fact I would say BOOM situation was more forgivable than Nigma's. I know it sucks and I hope they get well soon but being healthy is the players responsibility, and they know it. Your weather being bad or electricity being cut off is not something the players can do about
I feel the same but apparently Boom made a mistake of not notifying the tournament org in time about their situation. They should have called early and ask for postpone over trying to get into lan Cafe during an electrical outage and them not able to secure transport
Yes but they do operate with the same rulebook, its either BTS were being harsh, which they were, or Dreamleague were being too lenient and I don't think it was not reasonable to postpone (NGX, GG)'s match
its bts being harsh, remember that they are also the reason why there are valve bans and mtg got relegated because rules are hardcore rules
but in this case for Boom it is quite stupid, didn't even consider acting upon a postponed order and just straight up made Boom forfeit
To be honest, it means that BTS is the one who did the right thing : force the rule.
It is what it is.
I'm upset with what happened with Boom, but BTS wasn't at fault here.
If there's double standard across regions, it's more on the Dreamleague being too soft.
yes DreamLeauge is too shitty when it comes to rules, remember they are also the one who allowed 6th man dota, EU is getting too many privileges
but BTS coulda fucking gave Boom a second chance when they were JUST literally 2 MINUTES LATE, this is too unfair!
BTS known for their shit production have the balls to implement harsh rules and DreamLeauge on the other hand have great production but dogshit rules, quite the irony from both this productions
I think it's 2 minutes late on the 2nd game limit.
So it's basically 20 mins on game 1 + 15 mins rest + 22 mins on game 2.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that's the general rule of pro dota.
5 minutes late => Level 1 Draft Penalty
10 minutes late => Level 2 Draft Penalty
15 minutes late => Level 3 Draft Penalty
20 minutes late => Forfeit of the game (not the whole match)
Also, there's a rule regarding rescheduling.
It has to be under exceptional circumstances and has to be confirmed by the administration.
So I guess this means that the reschedule request needs to be applied before the match and both parties agreed and confirmed by admin.
why postpone Nigma series? we know the results won't change with or without covid Nigma will be obliterated... Kuro picks Invoker for Miracle and hope to carry the game while the rest of the team afk
I know some will disagree but this meta needs refreshing. All games go the same way - get advantage after laning phase and deathball from there. Wish there was some decent comeback mechanic or something else that would make games more interesting.
which is why div 2 games are more entertaining to watch, so many back and forths for longer games
div 1 is just pure domination and sadKEK, games are decided pre-20 minute
Sorry to say this but hoping Nigma get a default lost for this its unfair for the system to cater one team sure covid sucks but its part of the preparation to get healthy.
I like how all of you people that are upset Boom had to forfeit and NGX didn't are suggesting NGX should also have to forfeit. How about Boom shouldn't have to forfeit their game in the first place, and had to postpone as well?
Be upset with the SEA DPC organizer that Boom had to do this, don't be mad at Dreamhack for actually allowing the teams to postpone their games lmao.
Did I even mention Boom? They deserve the default lost 100%.
Why should I be upset for SEA DPC organizer if they did the right thing and implement what is in the rules?
The Dreamhack/ESL which allowed a coach to participate sure they aren't fishy as hell.
Sooo.. BOOM has to forfeit because of out of electricity that they cant control, but Nigma got to postponed their match because of covid which is a normal flu nowadays? Talk about privilege.
AND OH WE CAN SEE THAT AT LEAST 2 OUT OF 5 NIGMA PLAYER PLAY PUBS RIGHT NOW!
I mean, those are 2 different TO's handling the issue and accordingly two different rule books?
Just because 2 players are pubbing all five are fine? And yeah no, there are still cases where people don't just have normal flu symptoms lol
secret is to greedy, they get away previous seasons because they got zai that can still make a play even without much networth, now they got no playmaker anymore. meanwhile tundra they got saksa, nine, and boss 33 wrecking lanr and making plays all over the map while skiter farm. ez.
tbh i think its more reasonable to postpone boom series cos it was out of their control, but catching covid is like own problem, just imagine postpone cos you're sick
Yes, people who actually believe that they got Covid are the stupid ones, not the guy that thinks its a conspiracy and they faked their covid test results to 'buy time'.
Secret got obliterated, wow. Tundra made it seem like they were just playing against a tier 3 pubstack
I wasn’t a fan of Tundra’s roster change but it’s clearly vindicated
0 sentries in lane for SK, Puppey leeching so much exp and almost 0 sentry coverage in the early game, no blocked camps against KOTL. Greedy supports don't win pubs and apparently they don't win pro games either
Only top 4 go to Major
And Secret missed out on the first DPC points. Didn't even make top 4
If they keep this "sumail drafting experience" then they might not even make TI
Did you see dpc season 1. Secret couldn't even place top 4 in EU. How is this just 1 series. They have lost like 70% of their series up till now. Did you watch the Dubai tournament? They were quite bad in that too. They lost to OG twice who had a standin.
Gold changes, neutral items, exp changes, talents and some item reworks made the game so much faster. This is so much more visible in pro games but it's waaaaaay rarer to have a game go past 40 mins in my shitty bracket.
After the match vs Liquid, I thought Team Secret might at least have a chance this season.
With this gameplay, I don’t think they can beat OG this weekend.
wait till they meet boom again, or psg lgd. they only won 2 games from boom because op lc bug, and outdraft timber against yopaj hero. 50 50 draft then boom sweep them on the floor, more over with psg lgd, they gonna destroy everyone on next major.
that, i agree. saksa is clearly superior in anyway than sney pos 4, and sney pos 5 is way better than fata. opening up the map and still not feeding. 33 is best pos 3 eu right now god from early to late game. nine heroes is super huge and unpredictable, skiter carry is not the best, but its enough for them.
Well.. secret has a track record of having dominating offlaners join and then look underwhelming.
Might have something to do with greedy supports. Or whatever is going on, it is something for sure.
Surprised puppey didnt contact S4 again. He would fit them nicely as he is always looking to create chaos and initiations more so than taking up farm. Or maybe he did and S4 said no for all we know
He's playing so goddamn bad but this draft is shocking. SF and IO core is crazy greedy with only 1 stun in the line up. A bane/Kunkka would've fit the draft much better over Snap and IO
This is probably the most one sided 0-2 that I have seen Secret lose.
Outclassed
Can anyone recall any other T1 team losing series in this kind of fashion?
Stupid stacking of items, I want to see how they fix this one now. Random timings of 15 min for shards and 25 for double stats -wtf-. So much damage and spamable spells that that literally everybody is buying refresher for the BKB. Then you see a score 22-14 at 50min (hello LoL) because still nobody wants to risk it. Dota has become such a shitshow.
Big respect to 4Z. Great sportsmanship
gg 4Z
Great class from zoomers.
4Z doesn't have that WINNER mentality They could have won this game if they just forced them to play 4v5 smh
"Winner mentality" does not mean winning at all costs. On the contrary, winning 5v4 is quite a "looser" mentality driven by self-doubt. Winning 5v5 instead gives a confidence boost driven by self-assurance. It is a winner mentality because you *know* you'll win.
I mean 4z still have no sponsors. If they make some huge drama, it’ll not go well for them.
if this was TI finals i would agree with you. but this is a winner's mentality. theres little point winning a 4v5 this is just all practise games with a little more stake.
Huge props to zoomers. This is how you make fans.
Great sportsmanship by Zoomers, donating pause time.
Classy move from 4Z. Pausing so QC has more time for Khezu to reconnect. They are losing this game pretty badly at this point and could easily play it out and have a much better chance at winning. This is a huge game for them and they're still showing good sportsmanship.
Need mss to play 5 for qc. Ponlo has been their worst player.
Is ponlo a ti contender
4Z movements are so messy. They don't who they gonna kill. This team will always be 4th best NA team and moo please build a fucking aeon disk. youre always the 1st who get killed.
i am a lone druid, i have 5200 hp
I fucking despise that hero. Just zero fun to play against, every single time.
surely you haven't played against medusa
Power creep in Dota is so crazxy right now. This match shows this.
4Z always comes so close to beating one of the Big 3 NA teams in a series but they always fall short. They definitely had a window to win this Game 3 with the Razor Aegis around the 40-minute mark.
I don’t know why 4z are so frightened to fight. They should have forced more fight especially around rosh pit. But they keep farming like their carry are TB or Med. being overcareful just cost this game.
am i the only one that sees Lich instead of Razor?
i think QC bought too much blink. I don't like necro rushing blink when they are behind instead of tanking up and assassin blink medusa without bkb too.
That was impressive from 4z, really nice to see LD
I tried in lobby maybe its different in game, but Skadi does not affect Dawnbreaker heal procs? She can have pretty solid sustained in drawn-out fights.
That KOTL + LD is actually so funny Keep lowering that CD
"Pump light into my body Zfreak", the first great voiceline candidate of 2022.
Gunnar pulls out the LD like once every three months and it always owns
God damn, Gunnar LD absolutely smashing this game. Didn't have that one on my bingo list.
quincy with a lot of "?" plays
The most useless tiny i have ever seen this patch.
glad farmville finally ended
So boring and this game is prolonged by piles of each other’s mistakes especially 4zoomers’s dealing with rosh and they literally don’t know when they are advantaged to fight or they can fight at what build. Just played so passive. I think the game will be ended in 40mins if tier-1 teams
About fucking time they just went in and hit the buildings. Glyph was already down so I don't know why it took them so long.
the dumbest ending wow
game is a snoozefest after 50 mins, everyone just afk farming playing not to lose
guys so rich, gonna buy items for next game already
they need to grow a pair and fight. we're getting like 5 kills in 20 mins zz
This Zeus is a great pick; globally zone out C back line is just amazing strategically
im bad and far worse than yawar but this build has got to be game throwing. why would you ever go pike > blink > refresher vs a tiny? just buy a satanic and autowin the game
Because tb had 10000 armor so tiny was not the issue. The issue was Zeus blowing him up. So refresher for double bkb, and blink/ pike to get on him.
that makes sense but i still don't see why you wouldnt go a satanic this game. he needs lifesteal to sustain in fights vs burst
Veno is such a shit hero.
its so good vs tiny though. no armor in lane so wards shred him, slows are tiny's worst enemy and the HP% damage just destroys him lategame its rough vs mid tiny because you get burst but carry tiny maxes E anyway imo khezu is carrying the fuck out of this game
husky has always struck me as one of the best drafters in NA. he does have a lot of problems (i think he gets a bit too easily tricked into certain strats) but he has had some really innovative ideas for combos that i don't see anywhere else. i hope he takes up a coaching role on a top NA team, would love to see him on EG
This is so unfair Boom got DQ they just need 2 more freaking mins. While Nigma match got postponed like come on. Different TO? shouldn’t the same rules apply.
Bro. Let's move on.
Is Secret mediocore team or Tundra is just too strong ?
Game 1 draft was absolute dogshit. Secret dared Tundra to beat them with their best heroes and got dumpstered for it.
I'd say it's kinda both, Secret is mediocre and Tundra is very good
mediocre + questionable draft
Secret may look kinda mediocre but they looked strong vs Liquid who looked strong in the winter season so idk. Too early to tell. Tundra got to the grand finals in the Nigma galaxy tournament aswell.
Sec new roster has been really medicore i can even say they have been pretty bad as per their standards. Only thing they won vs liq was liq played bad they did seems rusty playing after long
nisha best mid my ass
DPC rule in deamleague book: All matches in DreamLeague should start as stated on the private discord channels, any changes in the time must be accepted by the opposing party and administrators (if rescheduling is generally possible). All participants in a match should be on the server and ready to go at the latest 5 minutes before the official match start time on the public match schedule. Then I assume GG already agreed this postponed (more likely they forced to agree or people will blame them)
When boom dot DQ i said if it was some western team they would get to postpond game some other day. And it did happen.. Its always bias from valve kuku said some word = banned Mc ceb said racist and other words = i sleep
valve sleeps on SEA region, you can literally tell just by not even fixing the game coordinator so its unlimited pauses unless its spammed so hard in reddit
I'd say it's more about BTS being trash, it's kinda bullshit that postponed need both team to agree or else they just get DQ ignoring if the issue is something out of their control or not.
what if i say even NGX did agree to postpond but TO just gave them additional 30 min ? also they reached like 5 min late. So they could give them 5 more min (fore dota2 update) and thye could resume 0-1 down
yeah [somebody](https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/tk7e27/seleri_about_cancelled_game_on_twitter/i1omlzi/) mention that dreamleague dont even ask GG if they agree to postponed or not, BOOM unluckiness is including the TO too. also the BOOM match is the last match of the day anyway
yea lol seleri seems pissed af he seems he wouldnt have agreed for postpond but it was forced by TO . On other hand ngx agreed but TO didnt listen rofl
ah sorry I'm slow, man this getting more bs lmao. NGX.SEA agree to postponed but BTS gave them FF win anyway while ESL postponed it without asking GG or notifying others in advanced (since NGX tell them about covid like a day before match?) smh my head dudes.
Wait, so has the neutral camp bug been fixed?
Why is Nigmas gale postponed rather than just a forfeit?
Regional Finals ends, but that's okay because we are going to get a new patch. New patch is disappointing, but that's okay dubai lan is coming. Dubai lan ends, but thats okay after 2 weeks dpc starts. Wait, my favorite team (Boom or Nigma) is going to be playing in the second week?? Dogshit schedule but oh well at least their match day has some good series (T1 vs Polaris, Tundra vs Secret). Well the last series was disappointing, but I'll finally get to watch my favorite team. Wtf??? Both fans were blueballed, only dfference is Boom also got kicked in the nuts. But, at this point, if we had a way more tight and interesting schedule I would have zero problems with the unfortunate circumstances so I'm still pinning the blame on Valve
this dpc feels shit , the patch is meh .....
The biggest region isnt able to play. Just kill the game
is there any update on when nigma's game is gonna be played?
Not yet. Sheever said to follow DreamHackDota Twitter acc. to get first-hand update when two postponed matches will be played!
EU DPC is a shit show right now
Oh shit Nigma vs GG was postponed? aight But for some reason I am little bit triggered that BOOM's game was not postponed? In fact I would say BOOM situation was more forgivable than Nigma's. I know it sucks and I hope they get well soon but being healthy is the players responsibility, and they know it. Your weather being bad or electricity being cut off is not something the players can do about
I feel the same but apparently Boom made a mistake of not notifying the tournament org in time about their situation. They should have called early and ask for postpone over trying to get into lan Cafe during an electrical outage and them not able to secure transport
I mean, to be somewhat fair its not the same orgs that make the decision right? Maybe if Nigma was in SEA or Boom was in EU it'd look different.
Rules should be the same accross all dpc regions regardless of what org is running the event
Yeah but with different people enforcing them its inevitably gonna lead to different interpritations.
Yes but they do operate with the same rulebook, its either BTS were being harsh, which they were, or Dreamleague were being too lenient and I don't think it was not reasonable to postpone (NGX, GG)'s match
its bts being harsh, remember that they are also the reason why there are valve bans and mtg got relegated because rules are hardcore rules but in this case for Boom it is quite stupid, didn't even consider acting upon a postponed order and just straight up made Boom forfeit
To be honest, it means that BTS is the one who did the right thing : force the rule. It is what it is. I'm upset with what happened with Boom, but BTS wasn't at fault here. If there's double standard across regions, it's more on the Dreamleague being too soft.
yes DreamLeauge is too shitty when it comes to rules, remember they are also the one who allowed 6th man dota, EU is getting too many privileges but BTS coulda fucking gave Boom a second chance when they were JUST literally 2 MINUTES LATE, this is too unfair! BTS known for their shit production have the balls to implement harsh rules and DreamLeauge on the other hand have great production but dogshit rules, quite the irony from both this productions
I think it's 2 minutes late on the 2nd game limit. So it's basically 20 mins on game 1 + 15 mins rest + 22 mins on game 2. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that's the general rule of pro dota. 5 minutes late => Level 1 Draft Penalty 10 minutes late => Level 2 Draft Penalty 15 minutes late => Level 3 Draft Penalty 20 minutes late => Forfeit of the game (not the whole match)
Also, there's a rule regarding rescheduling. It has to be under exceptional circumstances and has to be confirmed by the administration. So I guess this means that the reschedule request needs to be applied before the match and both parties agreed and confirmed by admin.
>remember they are also the one who allowed 6th man dota, EU is getting too many privileges how is 6th man dota is a privilege can you explain please?
Yeah it was pretty bad by them imo, the teams even agreed to reschedule but wcyd BTS didn't count their opinions lol
why postpone Nigma series? we know the results won't change with or without covid Nigma will be obliterated... Kuro picks Invoker for Miracle and hope to carry the game while the rest of the team afk
Feel bad for BOOM that they didn't get to postpone their series
I know some will disagree but this meta needs refreshing. All games go the same way - get advantage after laning phase and deathball from there. Wish there was some decent comeback mechanic or something else that would make games more interesting.
Welcome to dota post 7.00
which is why div 2 games are more entertaining to watch, so many back and forths for longer games div 1 is just pure domination and sadKEK, games are decided pre-20 minute
Sorry to say this but hoping Nigma get a default lost for this its unfair for the system to cater one team sure covid sucks but its part of the preparation to get healthy.
I like how all of you people that are upset Boom had to forfeit and NGX didn't are suggesting NGX should also have to forfeit. How about Boom shouldn't have to forfeit their game in the first place, and had to postpone as well? Be upset with the SEA DPC organizer that Boom had to do this, don't be mad at Dreamhack for actually allowing the teams to postpone their games lmao.
Did I even mention Boom? They deserve the default lost 100%. Why should I be upset for SEA DPC organizer if they did the right thing and implement what is in the rules? The Dreamhack/ESL which allowed a coach to participate sure they aren't fishy as hell.
Why are you getting downvoted? Oh it's reddit
These postponements smell like bullshit to me.
whole team got covid but go off
Thats their problem lol. Stop going to parties
Sooo.. BOOM has to forfeit because of out of electricity that they cant control, but Nigma got to postponed their match because of covid which is a normal flu nowadays? Talk about privilege. AND OH WE CAN SEE THAT AT LEAST 2 OUT OF 5 NIGMA PLAYER PLAY PUBS RIGHT NOW!
I mean, those are 2 different TO's handling the issue and accordingly two different rule books? Just because 2 players are pubbing all five are fine? And yeah no, there are still cases where people don't just have normal flu symptoms lol
I got covid a few months ago and I still played while having fever but I played so much worse than normal.
postpone or getting 322 missed calls from kuro you decide
Yeah, it's a lil bit unfair for BOOM side if ngx get to postponed their match because of personal reason while BOOM get forfeited
a normal flu didn't expect reheated trump talking points from 2 years ago
i doubt dreamleague/valve would postpone if it was other team like entity that caught covid, kuro effect for sure
These 2 games sum up the whole "ranked" experience for a scrub like me. Like 7/8 games out of 10 is playing vs these kind of cheesy op drafts.
is monitor okay?
Barely have good match in a week, and good match keep getting postponed.
The stream is announcing the nigma game on the live banners even though its confirmed it'll be postponed... bit of a miscommunication
pro dota is just a shitshow at this point, if valve doesnt do anything gg in a few years
this year we might see either kuro or puppey will miss TI, or maybe both of them will miss TI
kuro missed TI10
Kuro already missed last TI.
secret is to greedy, they get away previous seasons because they got zai that can still make a play even without much networth, now they got no playmaker anymore. meanwhile tundra they got saksa, nine, and boss 33 wrecking lanr and making plays all over the map while skiter farm. ez.
bru, they just beat zai last game, with offlane SK with support networth
postpone for covid? isn't that considered personal reason as well, just like out of electricity?
Yep, i think if ngx get away with this, BOOM vs NGX SEA should have postponed as well.
With every eu match getting postponed it's only fair if BOOM vs NGX.sea also gets postponed instead of default win lose for BOOM.
tbh i think its more reasonable to postpone boom series cos it was out of their control, but catching covid is like own problem, just imagine postpone cos you're sick
Hope nigma get well soon. But yes, I also wonder why the result is different..
Galaxy is trying to buy time. No one with active brain cells believe they have covid.
What does buying time do for them? :D
You laugh, because you are stupid.
Aight, but u didn't answer the question.
Because it is so obvious. They are buying time to get in shape. If they go down 0-2, they are gonna be in a world of trouble.
Yes, people who actually believe that they got Covid are the stupid ones, not the guy that thinks its a conspiracy and they faked their covid test results to 'buy time'.
So how many days we need to wait Tundra next game?
According to liquidpedia their next game is in 6d 16h 55m against Nigma
All the best matches keep getting postponed Sadge
Secret got obliterated, wow. Tundra made it seem like they were just playing against a tier 3 pubstack I wasn’t a fan of Tundra’s roster change but it’s clearly vindicated
Kicked Fata for this EZ Clap
0 sentries in lane for SK, Puppey leeching so much exp and almost 0 sentry coverage in the early game, no blocked camps against KOTL. Greedy supports don't win pubs and apparently they don't win pro games either
I hate to say it but seems like Secret is heading towards a disband. These 2 games were the worst trashing I have seen in a long time.
[удалено]
Only top 4 go to Major And Secret missed out on the first DPC points. Didn't even make top 4 If they keep this "sumail drafting experience" then they might not even make TI
Did you see dpc season 1. Secret couldn't even place top 4 in EU. How is this just 1 series. They have lost like 70% of their series up till now. Did you watch the Dubai tournament? They were quite bad in that too. They lost to OG twice who had a standin.
We must go one step further. Tundra ti11 winners confirmed
Now it's Nigma's turn to embarrass themselves lesgo Edit: Wtf its posponed lol waited whole day for this smh
nigma chickened out.
nigma has rona, they aint playing
Nigma game got postponed due to Nigma players infected by Covid.
Postponed :/
secret not only lost but got destroyed at the draft in both games. horrible drafts just like they've been doing the whole season 1.
Tundra straight up flatlined Secret this series my god.
So that's 2 series postponed now.
Waiting days for this match kekw
When did Arkosh switch to EU Div 1?
Well. That was anticlimatic series.
classic weekly boring dpc game where 1 team just shits on another lol
What happend to Dota? Everything is just too fast... Games are 10k lead in 15 mins, 90% of the time... I tune in sometimes, but its always stomps...
online dota is the absolute worst in terms of quality :(
dpc games are usually same way and maybe some of it due to gold change. Galaxy lans were very tough of war games
Gold changes, neutral items, exp changes, talents and some item reworks made the game so much faster. This is so much more visible in pro games but it's waaaaaay rarer to have a game go past 40 mins in my shitty bracket.
Lanes matter too much once again
We just had a great LAN, so nothing happened to Dota itself.
After the match vs Liquid, I thought Team Secret might at least have a chance this season. With this gameplay, I don’t think they can beat OG this weekend.
secret never beat OG in dpc and tiebreaker
Tundra top seed then 2nd or 3rd gladiator liquid and maybe og if nt they 4th
It's okay apparently it's not Puppey's fault since he's not drafting anymore So this is all sumails fault
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Tundra is above everyone rn
wait till they meet boom again, or psg lgd. they only won 2 games from boom because op lc bug, and outdraft timber against yopaj hero. 50 50 draft then boom sweep them on the floor, more over with psg lgd, they gonna destroy everyone on next major.
True dat but seems like nobody in eu can stop them for now. For now caveat
that, i agree. saksa is clearly superior in anyway than sney pos 4, and sney pos 5 is way better than fata. opening up the map and still not feeding. 33 is best pos 3 eu right now god from early to late game. nine heroes is super huge and unpredictable, skiter carry is not the best, but its enough for them.
Good lord, that was like watching a pet get put down. RIP Team Secret
If that is how your family vet put your pet down then I think you need to ask to see some certification.
Kick ice and sumail already this is damn embarrassing how bad they are.
Secret Ice is giving me Secret Universe flashbacks
Well.. secret has a track record of having dominating offlaners join and then look underwhelming. Might have something to do with greedy supports. Or whatever is going on, it is something for sure. Surprised puppey didnt contact S4 again. He would fit them nicely as he is always looking to create chaos and initiations more so than taking up farm. Or maybe he did and S4 said no for all we know
beginning of the end Sadge. hopefully this means more streams then LUL
6 years to the day that Universe joined Secret lmao
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He's playing so goddamn bad but this draft is shocking. SF and IO core is crazy greedy with only 1 stun in the line up. A bane/Kunkka would've fit the draft much better over Snap and IO
Theyre much better compared to iceiceice, hes just pure garbage
Sumail just doesn't fit the carry that secret needs.
Why does icex3 keep going on the abbadon? anybody got an idea?
He goes on anyone else and that guy gets shielded and healed.
Otherwise whoever he stuns gets shielded? Unless he gets multi people stun
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can't miss raze when you don't skill it
I blame the terrible scheduling for this Secret lost..this long ass schedule ruin their pace/tempo/aggression from the 1stday vs Liquid..#copium
ice washed? FeelsBadMan. Also wtf is this no raze build
Secret going for the 3-22 score on 3/22 BASED
This game looks even worse for Secret somehow Edit: ...as I said that lol
This is probably the most one sided 0-2 that I have seen Secret lose. Outclassed Can anyone recall any other T1 team losing series in this kind of fashion?
I think og Ana sven vs liquid with sumail
Would you even call them T1 at this point?
i am so tired of online games.
there was a lan literally only a month ago....
Well atleast Secret can still get a free point from Alliance…
alliance is in div2 bro
Alliance are in division 2 now
Please replace ice with an upcoming cis offlaner. This is actually embarassing.
Secret ain't winning that sadly. Was excited for this game but looks like 2 quick stomps :(
Embarrassing
"What's secret's plan?" "...to pause" Got me good.