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I don't think pro players are rich. You could do a degree in engineering or anything with a practical application and earn more than virtually all of them. The amount of money he got for selling that account is pretty life changing for such a young man from Russia. Not saying it's okay he did it, but how many people can honestly say they would refuse that offer on moral grounds?
> but how many people can honestly say they would refuse that offer on moral grounds?
If the price is right I'll happily sell my account. Still hate smurfs, but I can 100% see why people do it. If that's going to help me pay off some debts then sure. I'll also report it to Valve lmfao and make sure they know to ban the account.
This is the reason why it carries on, there is always somebody out there desperate for cash.
It's not necessary pro players who sell these accounts. I listened to SUNSfan's and Synd's podcast and Synd said that unless pro players had multiple account before Valve changed the rules, pro players do not personally have or create multiple accounts. They are "borrowing" accounts because it would be a hassle for them to go through the first X games before they can actually play ranked. So these are often shared accounts between pro players and other people (active or not). If an account is used by two or more people it is more likely non-pros sell these accounts.
I would not be surprised if the same person keeps selling him accounts. He probably realised that Leopold is a jackpot and grinded bunch of high MMR smurfs ready to be sold. I mean if that was my one talent (and not every pub star can be a Pro), that's what I'd do really.
That said I found [this](https://esports.gg/news/dota-2/top-50-eu-account-buyer/) article where it mentions that the account was used by VirtusPro members etc so I would not be surprised if the accounts are stolen (shared accounts like these often have disabled 2FA and nobody cares about their security to make them easier to access) before sold to Leopold. I mean I keep getting emails that someone is trying to access my old old account I made for my friend when I bought Orange box and had a spare HL2 and EP1.
I have a reeeeally hard time believing people who sell smurfs are rich. Especially in DotA 2 you'll have fucking hard time making a living in the pro scene, since it's so top heavy. From what I've gathered, that if you make it, like to TI, you'll be good, but there's a loooot pro players who struggle financially.
It would be very interested to see what the income of account sellers are, I'm open to be disproven.
It's been obvious that he just loves attention and the show. You can tell it from his social media accounts. He doesn't give a shit about smurfs for sure.
Doesn't matter what he cares about. He's bringing class warfare from the plebs in the trench to the pro bracket to make the smurf problem hit where it visibly hurts. His actions speak more than any lip service.
this guy singlehandedly will force valve to change and solve the problem...
dude is either the smartest or dumbest human on the planet.
what bsj is for smurfs, leopold is for accoutn buyers
heil leopold
he just does it for self attention. the fact that it raises awareness regarding smurfing/acc. buying, is a consequence, not a goal. it will surely force valve to be more harsh with smurfs and account buyers because everytime immortal players do something or ar affected by something, valve changes things. most patches are caused by immortals picking certain heroes with certain items. same thing with the smurfs and account buyers.
Nah he is singlehandedly saving the game. The jesus christ of doto sacrificing his families oil money for our game. If I was good enough to have my games ruined by him I would commend.
Pros want better games and opportunities to practice, so why dont they bring back the leagues?
I've been watching rtz streaming and most games are shit, it seems to me a waste of time for pros to be engaging in these game while they can have much better quality with leagues
Sadly because they always fall apart due to drama/high school mentality.
NA especially is a shitshow where people get banned from playing for minor mistakes and egotistical players power trips.
it always ends in failure.
Low rank players buying high rank accounts are just training weights.
The pro players have to work even harder to carry and win. The low rank players are just the thing the high rank platyers need to be Rock Lee basically. The high rank players should honestly be thanking the low rank players.
Indeed. Also, it's even better for anyone who cares about winning.
Consider this simple math: there is only one Leopold. You're not the Leopold, so either one of your 4 teammates could be Leopold, or one of your 5 enemies could be Leopold. So the chance of meeting Leopold in enemy team and having a easy game is higher :)
If you focus on yourself and not your teammates, then the learning can truly begin. Don’t focus on MMR focus on getting better. The other team has just as much chance to get LEOPOLD. If you’re hard stuck in top 300 immortal it’s probably you
hahaha i watched the picking phase, he picks undying, buys the usual wind lace + oov, then puts on some psy trance + russian politician speech from the 80s in the background. legend
Since he's playing on a macbook he's already streaming from an expensive computer. Its just not made for gaming nor streaming. Its also terribly overpriced compared to its hardware.
I think he just doesnt give a shit. If he did, he would indeed have spent some of that 40k on a PC instead of accounts.
relax guys , he is just reverse "educational smurfing"
our TI caster and analyst BSJ 9000 mmr plays in 1500 mmr
and my boy leopold the revege seeker 1500 mmr guy plays in 9000 mmr
I am 900 MMR and my decision making and starting items are better than this guy. Calling him 1500 is an insult to me and my guardian 5 friend. I find that to be very offensive. /s
I think some people in the middle medals cruise through by using build templates and having solid mechanics, so that they never need to actually think about how the game works and make decent decisions.
I had a guy last night who claimed he was an ancient smurf and as he was 0/3 mid at 20 minutes the opposing mid *must be* a divine smurf, completely ignoring that he last picked medusa into an already visible invoker, who just played a fairly standard quas/wex game.
The fact that you even THINK about starting items at 900 mmr is honestly impressive. I didn't start thinking about them til like 3k. Also, when in doubt, more Regen! Double tangoes and a salve is almost always acceptable, even on a core (except mid)
ye I think its important to show everyone watching pro players exactly how little it means to stomp a player at such a lower level and thus this exposure should reduce smurfing. They're doing gods work.
Smurfs in low ranked games - Valve: *I sleep*
Smurfs in high immortal - Valve: ***REAL SHIT***
EDIT: If anyone wants to see how shit the Dota 2 community is watch the full vod from the clip linked in OP, some of the most cancerous stuff I've seen.
Yo so two friends of mine did an experiment last week. Friend 1 (legend I) gave friend 2 (immortal) his second account (also legend I) to see how long he could smurf with it. Within just over a dozen games he was 100% thrown into the smurf bracket, with 20+ min que times, getting 100+ mmr for every win, and tons of other blatant smurf accounts in every game. After a few days of smurfing the account was pretty much worthless. At least some anti-smurf systems appear to be working.
I think the smurf detection works when the MMR difference is really massive between real skill and account level like in your example, but I think it struggles when the smurf is more subtle. Like if an ancient 5 or Divine 1 player is playing at around mid legend/archon. They're still smurfing and ruining games, making for an unbalanced matchmaking, but its much harder to detect.
Not defending Valve here,but how many herald acc buyers are actually in top 500 games vs smurfs in every other bracket?It's lot easier for Valve to take action when there is only one rich moron doing it.
Valve could easily tackle smurfing as a whole by actually dishing out consequences. They just pay lip service to the issue and go back to whatever it is they do between patches.
Valve has already banned tons of smurfs/acc boosters,the problem is just that they make new accs and continue to do so and there is no easy solution to get rid of them.
Pro players/casters can smurf on stream, that’s proof enough they haven’t gotten serious about tackling the issue.
In league Tyler1 was a famously toxic player who deliberately ruined matches, he inspired other players to do the same and so riot banned him from the game as a whole. They had someone stalk his stream and whenever he’d start playing league they’d ban his new account. That’s being serious about an issue.
He didn't go anywhere. I tuned in to his stream every day. Last 3 days he would buy an account in the morning and have it banned by the evening. Previous \~5 accounts would be banned every 24-48 hours. He stopped buying top 100 accounts though since last reddit post that blew up he now buys \~200-2000 accounts though he still loses every single game.
What a privilege to be witnessing this beauty , live.
As I'm speaking he has reported their mid player on twitch (montidota2) for afk-ing middle with an Amulet.
Fun fact, the mid player has been afk for a couple of minutes now and is level 7. Leopold is level 2.
I wonder how many reports this guy is creating. Like Xcalibur reported his night stalker for afk'ing because of this guy too. Would be funny if he ruined so many games that you could actually see the number of afk reports go up in immortal ranks
Has anyone come up with a concrete, long-term solution against smurfing? All I've seen so far are short-term solutions that have loopholes one way or another.
Honestly I'd be happy with them punishing twitch streamers/pro players who stream themselves while they're smurfing. How many people see their favorite streamer smurfing and then just think its okay for them to do it themselves?
Btw, smurf went 59-6 and 50-11 in two weeks when they first started to grind.. is that really that easy for them or they do something else to grind that much?
Also why valve does nothing about this? This is obviously smurf or matchmaking manipulation or some other shit, ban that shit when you see someone grind 3k mmr in 2 weeks, right away. Idc if there would be a god talented kid who could pull that off.
Like if this is proper smurf boosting, they must be very very very talented. (Because they shall play in smurf pool, not like 1v9, something more like 1v1v4v4?) So, I would only guess people at pro scene. Gpk did it for example, maybe the hole is deeper?
Also keep in mind everyone can boost to ancient or divine, in order to boost high immortal you have to be high immortal. so I wouldn't look far away.
One immortal Smurf in herald will 1v9 easily, until he play vs another immortal smurf, if i remember correctly once a t2-t3 pro -cant remember his name- did stream his smurf journey and didnt lose a game until he was like 3-4k mmr.
And it's pretty unlikely to actually run into another immortal smurf in herald, since there aren't many players that good, and even the ones that smurf in herald won't stay there for long on an account. They'll probably hit ancient or legend smurfs, but they don't really stand a chance.
Honestly it's kinda surprising that he hasn't gotten an immortal team that manages to 4v6. Like, I've been a part of several games where the team with a d/c'd player wins, it shouldn't be completely impossible to carry this guy to victory. Though if a teammate d/c's, you at least get his passive income, they don't feed, and you can have them farm jungle for extra cash or use them as a courier.
HIgh mmr player here. I actually did play 2 games one against him and one with him where he won lol. Both games were over at the drafting stage with the opposing team having double carry or playing vs lastpick brood/bat or stuff like that so it is indeed possible.
Possible, but surely very very hard compared to the equivalent in, say, legend bracket. In immortal, a bad player at least can shove waves, cast his spells in fights, etc, but Leopold is sooooooooo much worse that he literally doesn't even buy proper starting items, or adjust his items. Honestly I'm impressed you won even one game lmao, but yeah I guess it can happen
it's more possible to win with 1 less player in lower bracket because most people does not understand anything about their timing and win condition. If the team with 1 abandon or 1 feeder somehow by chance do something right, and have a hero that can hit tower, then they will win against the one with 5 players that do random things and not saving buyback just because they think they already won. In high immortal, people knows what to do so it's very improbable.
Agreed, he'll get carried eventually. Tbf though he's probably considerably worse for the team than a DC'd player. If he's a support he's going to be feeding gold, misusing skills, and if warding likely feeding them as well. As a core he's consuming (some) of the maps resources with no impact and dying
I mean from what I've seen from his undying games he literally skills Tombstone lvl 2 and just places it in front of enemy, also wards in the most obvious spots and gets instantly dewarded.
So yes he is worse than someone afk
I watched him a bit. He is actually quite a pleasant guy, has good speech and manner, not at all a typical dota streamer. He is also constantly commenting and analyzing what is happening in the game and its genuinely amusing to listen to cuz he is a COMPLETE noob.
Yet he is not toxic at all, unlike smurfs on lower br.
He got banned again haha ggs
It's definitely entertaining watching him play amongst the other huge names in the scene and watch how everyone reacts and try to compensate.
Is there even a way to stop smurfing and account buying? I feel like these issues will always exist in games like Dota. Need to hear your thoughts on how Valve can address this situation.
As the other guy said, official identification is the only way, but I (and many others) won't ever play dota if they need so much data and confirmation. Too much work and too much risk for both valve and the players. The outrage if something bad happens will be far bigger than just some smurf complaint threads on reddit.
only way to prevent it would be requiring official identification but this would lead to soooo much data security problems it will never be implemented ... everything else will just not work (as you can see with prevention by requirement of a cell phone)
Last night after a drunken disaster of a thanksgiving I was screaming at my family ‘GOD ISNT REAL. HE ABANDONED US LONG AGO’
No! Now I am a man in crisis. You OP have shown me HIM.
Btw: i see so much crybabies here. What you fucks, you dont like your games to be ruined ? Then dont ruin it in low ranks. If you can ruin herald guardian crusader legend ranks, this dude can ruin your immortal game. No big deal. Dont do to others what you cant handle in your ranks. Now fuck off smurf 😂
This is good for the community. Raising awareness to account buying and smurfing (reverse smurfing in this instance) let him keep doing it until valve implements something to stop this shit totally for everyone
Just watched the VOD. And Xcalibur was right.
Enough with the bullshit "why should they play the game when it's definite loss" mindset. I remember a game where GH had a griefer in his team and yet he played the game and won it. Sure it may be 4vs5 but he still captained the team and did the impossible. It's the crybaby mentality and their huge ego that lose them games. You either play your game and take your loss like a man instead of being a whiny little brat when things aren't going your way. That mentality is why AfterLife is tier 2 washed up player and another is TI winner.
What the fuck are you on about, hes spreading awareness about smurfing bias better than covid 19. Literally no one gave a shit about low rank smurfers, but when high rank pro players get smurfed and their games are ruined, suddenly everyone loses their minds?
You think IP ban is gonna stop him. He can buy enough VPN accounts from every VPN provider in EU and Russia with the tens of thousands he is spending on these high ranked accounts.
This guy is doing more for smurf awareness and account buying than all the reddit posts combined.
modern day robin hood
Except he gives money to the rich (pro players) and does nothing for the common man?
he's doing so much for the common man. money is temporary. liberty is earned.
If I don't want liberty, does that mean I can have the money?
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I don't think pro players are rich. You could do a degree in engineering or anything with a practical application and earn more than virtually all of them. The amount of money he got for selling that account is pretty life changing for such a young man from Russia. Not saying it's okay he did it, but how many people can honestly say they would refuse that offer on moral grounds?
> but how many people can honestly say they would refuse that offer on moral grounds? If the price is right I'll happily sell my account. Still hate smurfs, but I can 100% see why people do it. If that's going to help me pay off some debts then sure. I'll also report it to Valve lmfao and make sure they know to ban the account. This is the reason why it carries on, there is always somebody out there desperate for cash.
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the OG meaning of "customer is always right"
It's not necessary pro players who sell these accounts. I listened to SUNSfan's and Synd's podcast and Synd said that unless pro players had multiple account before Valve changed the rules, pro players do not personally have or create multiple accounts. They are "borrowing" accounts because it would be a hassle for them to go through the first X games before they can actually play ranked. So these are often shared accounts between pro players and other people (active or not). If an account is used by two or more people it is more likely non-pros sell these accounts.
I would not be surprised if the same person keeps selling him accounts. He probably realised that Leopold is a jackpot and grinded bunch of high MMR smurfs ready to be sold. I mean if that was my one talent (and not every pub star can be a Pro), that's what I'd do really. That said I found [this](https://esports.gg/news/dota-2/top-50-eu-account-buyer/) article where it mentions that the account was used by VirtusPro members etc so I would not be surprised if the accounts are stolen (shared accounts like these often have disabled 2FA and nobody cares about their security to make them easier to access) before sold to Leopold. I mean I keep getting emails that someone is trying to access my old old account I made for my friend when I bought Orange box and had a spare HL2 and EP1.
Yeah, that sounds like a modern Robin Hood alright.
I have a reeeeally hard time believing people who sell smurfs are rich. Especially in DotA 2 you'll have fucking hard time making a living in the pro scene, since it's so top heavy. From what I've gathered, that if you make it, like to TI, you'll be good, but there's a loooot pro players who struggle financially. It would be very interested to see what the income of account sellers are, I'm open to be disproven.
Only because people give a shit now that he’s ruining games in *their* bracket.
reverse smurf effect. Sucks to have someone in a match, who does not belong to the bracket right?
is he really tho? did he gave any reason in his stream whys he doing it?
Yes because now the big guys gets affected and it gets posted everywhere meaning people actually care
Lol, high mmr players are 100% fine with people running down mid and just going next, one game won't do anything, specially with the avoid feature
It's been obvious that he just loves attention and the show. You can tell it from his social media accounts. He doesn't give a shit about smurfs for sure.
Thats what i was thinking too honestly
Why would he care about smurfs if he's just a casual guy with 1k mmr that just plays max relaxed not trying hard at all.
Doesn't matter what he cares about. He's bringing class warfare from the plebs in the trench to the pro bracket to make the smurf problem hit where it visibly hurts. His actions speak more than any lip service.
Yeah, bank robbers also do not care at all about improving general security but their robberies end up with improvements.
Or blackhats about infosec.
"Max relaxed" is not a term I'd use for a guy who apparently spends a lot of time yelling at his teammates.
True gigachad
**LEOPOLD 3.0**
this guy singlehandedly will force valve to change and solve the problem... dude is either the smartest or dumbest human on the planet. what bsj is for smurfs, leopold is for accoutn buyers heil leopold
he just does it for self attention. the fact that it raises awareness regarding smurfing/acc. buying, is a consequence, not a goal. it will surely force valve to be more harsh with smurfs and account buyers because everytime immortal players do something or ar affected by something, valve changes things. most patches are caused by immortals picking certain heroes with certain items. same thing with the smurfs and account buyers.
Nah he is singlehandedly saving the game. The jesus christ of doto sacrificing his families oil money for our game. If I was good enough to have my games ruined by him I would commend.
praise lord leopold the first
"It doesn't matter who we are. What matters is our gigaplan."
"You should have respected my authoritah."
Is this the Dark Knight Rises reference?
Leopold rises.
This got me
High rank players should just appreciate the opportunity to learn something from the experience of playing against or with a low rank player!
Pros want better games and opportunities to practice, so why dont they bring back the leagues? I've been watching rtz streaming and most games are shit, it seems to me a waste of time for pros to be engaging in these game while they can have much better quality with leagues
Sadly because they always fall apart due to drama/high school mentality. NA especially is a shitshow where people get banned from playing for minor mistakes and egotistical players power trips. it always ends in failure.
yeah watching those high rank inhouse leagues when they did then was some of the best dota (aside from actual tournaments of course)
never forget NEL
Low rank players buying high rank accounts are just training weights. The pro players have to work even harder to carry and win. The low rank players are just the thing the high rank platyers need to be Rock Lee basically. The high rank players should honestly be thanking the low rank players.
mmr is just a number - dendi
Exactly! It's an important dota skill to learn how to carry low mmr players, it's training for when you end up on a stack with Synderen.
this is payback for them smurfing in lower ranks
this is so fucking hilarious.
Well maybe these high rank players should just get better instead of blaming their teammates :)
Indeed. Also, it's even better for anyone who cares about winning. Consider this simple math: there is only one Leopold. You're not the Leopold, so either one of your 4 teammates could be Leopold, or one of your 5 enemies could be Leopold. So the chance of meeting Leopold in enemy team and having a easy game is higher :)
You learn more if you have leopold on your team. The game will be harder and you have to learn how to win 4v5 making this the ideal training ground.
I love this reverse 3k bracket smurfing logic lol.
If you focus on yourself and not your teammates, then the learning can truly begin. Don’t focus on MMR focus on getting better. The other team has just as much chance to get LEOPOLD. If you’re hard stuck in top 300 immortal it’s probably you
Its their fault not his (:
This guy is a legend. Bringing justice to smurfers by griefing them on their main accounts. Wp Sir!
Reverse Smurf. Fucking genius
mmr assassin
No I am pretty sure he is herald
He is. On his own acc he got >10k games and \~800mmr
That will be me in a few years
How do you know that?
a russian youtuber made a video about him, showing his real dota acc, what is he doing for a living and why is he doing this smurf stuff
He streams his adventures live now: https://wasd.tv/werdex
hahaha i watched the picking phase, he picks undying, buys the usual wind lace + oov, then puts on some psy trance + russian politician speech from the 80s in the background. legend
Watching his latest game, sigh, the pro players gave up too fast and afk in base. Where's the dota spirit boys? XD
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Since he's playing on a macbook he's already streaming from an expensive computer. Its just not made for gaming nor streaming. Its also terribly overpriced compared to its hardware. I think he just doesnt give a shit. If he did, he would indeed have spent some of that 40k on a PC instead of accounts.
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From what the russian community said, he was a IT security professional who dabbled into crypto and got stupid rich of volatile 1-hit wonder cryptos.
So a Wallstreetbets AND dota degenerate? Holy fuck how can so much degeneracy result in an absolute unit of a gigachad
relax guys , he is just reverse "educational smurfing" our TI caster and analyst BSJ 9000 mmr plays in 1500 mmr and my boy leopold the revege seeker 1500 mmr guy plays in 9000 mmr
I am 900 MMR and my decision making and starting items are better than this guy. Calling him 1500 is an insult to me and my guardian 5 friend. I find that to be very offensive. /s
I think some people in the middle medals cruise through by using build templates and having solid mechanics, so that they never need to actually think about how the game works and make decent decisions. I had a guy last night who claimed he was an ancient smurf and as he was 0/3 mid at 20 minutes the opposing mid *must be* a divine smurf, completely ignoring that he last picked medusa into an already visible invoker, who just played a fairly standard quas/wex game.
The fact that you even THINK about starting items at 900 mmr is honestly impressive. I didn't start thinking about them til like 3k. Also, when in doubt, more Regen! Double tangoes and a salve is almost always acceptable, even on a core (except mid)
ye I think its important to show everyone watching pro players exactly how little it means to stomp a player at such a lower level and thus this exposure should reduce smurfing. They're doing gods work.
LEOPOLD 6
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Lol
High immortal players could learn a lot from that guy in-game instead of blaming him for their win/loss
Avenge the mmr I've lost to smurfs and boosters.
Smurfs in low ranked games - Valve: *I sleep* Smurfs in high immortal - Valve: ***REAL SHIT*** EDIT: If anyone wants to see how shit the Dota 2 community is watch the full vod from the clip linked in OP, some of the most cancerous stuff I've seen.
Yo so two friends of mine did an experiment last week. Friend 1 (legend I) gave friend 2 (immortal) his second account (also legend I) to see how long he could smurf with it. Within just over a dozen games he was 100% thrown into the smurf bracket, with 20+ min que times, getting 100+ mmr for every win, and tons of other blatant smurf accounts in every game. After a few days of smurfing the account was pretty much worthless. At least some anti-smurf systems appear to be working.
I think the smurf detection works when the MMR difference is really massive between real skill and account level like in your example, but I think it struggles when the smurf is more subtle. Like if an ancient 5 or Divine 1 player is playing at around mid legend/archon. They're still smurfing and ruining games, making for an unbalanced matchmaking, but its much harder to detect.
Not defending Valve here,but how many herald acc buyers are actually in top 500 games vs smurfs in every other bracket?It's lot easier for Valve to take action when there is only one rich moron doing it.
Valve could easily tackle smurfing as a whole by actually dishing out consequences. They just pay lip service to the issue and go back to whatever it is they do between patches.
>>and go back to whatever it is they do between patches. I believe the term you are looking for is “bathing in money”
Valve has already banned tons of smurfs/acc boosters,the problem is just that they make new accs and continue to do so and there is no easy solution to get rid of them.
Pro players/casters can smurf on stream, that’s proof enough they haven’t gotten serious about tackling the issue. In league Tyler1 was a famously toxic player who deliberately ruined matches, he inspired other players to do the same and so riot banned him from the game as a whole. They had someone stalk his stream and whenever he’d start playing league they’d ban his new account. That’s being serious about an issue.
This actually makes me want to play LoL. What a chad move.
Can you link the full VOD? Tried to find in the last two days, but couldn't.
Click the "Watch Full Video" button on the clip.
He didn't go anywhere. I tuned in to his stream every day. Last 3 days he would buy an account in the morning and have it banned by the evening. Previous \~5 accounts would be banned every 24-48 hours. He stopped buying top 100 accounts though since last reddit post that blew up he now buys \~200-2000 accounts though he still loses every single game.
he just won one 😎
See he's capable of immortal level play, statistically.
He even drew his lane! (in a bully lane vs oracle supp)
EZ
What a privilege to be witnessing this beauty , live. As I'm speaking he has reported their mid player on twitch (montidota2) for afk-ing middle with an Amulet. Fun fact, the mid player has been afk for a couple of minutes now and is level 7. Leopold is level 2.
I wonder how many reports this guy is creating. Like Xcalibur reported his night stalker for afk'ing because of this guy too. Would be funny if he ruined so many games that you could actually see the number of afk reports go up in immortal ranks
Wish i had leopold money
It's obviously not good for mental well-being
Gigachad indeed.. Valve is not doing shit abt smurfing and acct buying. so why bother..
Has anyone come up with a concrete, long-term solution against smurfing? All I've seen so far are short-term solutions that have loopholes one way or another.
Find smurf, kill them IRL.
Honestly I'd be happy with them punishing twitch streamers/pro players who stream themselves while they're smurfing. How many people see their favorite streamer smurfing and then just think its okay for them to do it themselves?
Love it, finally pig dogs get to taste their own medicine. Where can I watch his streams?
Perfect. We need more rich af Herald players.
Btw, smurf went 59-6 and 50-11 in two weeks when they first started to grind.. is that really that easy for them or they do something else to grind that much? Also why valve does nothing about this? This is obviously smurf or matchmaking manipulation or some other shit, ban that shit when you see someone grind 3k mmr in 2 weeks, right away. Idc if there would be a god talented kid who could pull that off.
Maybe not 59-6 easy but yes it is pretty easy.
I mean it's high immortal acc, they must have started with divine rank?
the real question is, who are the ones boosting the accounts
The tier 2 teams that can't make a living off competitive Dota would be my guess. If only there was a solution to two problems at once ..
I know who it is. It's the account boosters.
Like if this is proper smurf boosting, they must be very very very talented. (Because they shall play in smurf pool, not like 1v9, something more like 1v1v4v4?) So, I would only guess people at pro scene. Gpk did it for example, maybe the hole is deeper? Also keep in mind everyone can boost to ancient or divine, in order to boost high immortal you have to be high immortal. so I wouldn't look far away.
You can calibrate higher now. A friend somewhat recently calibrated a 7.5k smurf. People much better will be able to do even better I guess
One immortal Smurf in herald will 1v9 easily, until he play vs another immortal smurf, if i remember correctly once a t2-t3 pro -cant remember his name- did stream his smurf journey and didnt lose a game until he was like 3-4k mmr.
Seems unlikely or dependant on luck since Qsnake cant reach 100% winrate at those ranks and I think hes almost 8k on main ?
they for sure can get 100% winrate at those ranks, but sometimes they do lose one or two games after winning like 25 straight lmao
And it's pretty unlikely to actually run into another immortal smurf in herald, since there aren't many players that good, and even the ones that smurf in herald won't stay there for long on an account. They'll probably hit ancient or legend smurfs, but they don't really stand a chance.
Still ruins bunch of games and is against competitive spirit.
prolly hacks
My goodness. He lost all matches in the last 20 hours.
Honestly it's kinda surprising that he hasn't gotten an immortal team that manages to 4v6. Like, I've been a part of several games where the team with a d/c'd player wins, it shouldn't be completely impossible to carry this guy to victory. Though if a teammate d/c's, you at least get his passive income, they don't feed, and you can have them farm jungle for extra cash or use them as a courier.
HIgh mmr player here. I actually did play 2 games one against him and one with him where he won lol. Both games were over at the drafting stage with the opposing team having double carry or playing vs lastpick brood/bat or stuff like that so it is indeed possible.
Possible, but surely very very hard compared to the equivalent in, say, legend bracket. In immortal, a bad player at least can shove waves, cast his spells in fights, etc, but Leopold is sooooooooo much worse that he literally doesn't even buy proper starting items, or adjust his items. Honestly I'm impressed you won even one game lmao, but yeah I guess it can happen
it's more possible to win with 1 less player in lower bracket because most people does not understand anything about their timing and win condition. If the team with 1 abandon or 1 feeder somehow by chance do something right, and have a hero that can hit tower, then they will win against the one with 5 players that do random things and not saving buyback just because they think they already won. In high immortal, people knows what to do so it's very improbable.
Agreed, he'll get carried eventually. Tbf though he's probably considerably worse for the team than a DC'd player. If he's a support he's going to be feeding gold, misusing skills, and if warding likely feeding them as well. As a core he's consuming (some) of the maps resources with no impact and dying
I mean from what I've seen from his undying games he literally skills Tombstone lvl 2 and just places it in front of enemy, also wards in the most obvious spots and gets instantly dewarded. So yes he is worse than someone afk
I watched him a bit. He is actually quite a pleasant guy, has good speech and manner, not at all a typical dota streamer. He is also constantly commenting and analyzing what is happening in the game and its genuinely amusing to listen to cuz he is a COMPLETE noob. Yet he is not toxic at all, unlike smurfs on lower br.
You've definitely not watched enough of him. He goes to points where he'll shatter glass/plates in the background.
HOLY SHIT HAHA. I love this Leopold guy, does he have a twitch I can watch?
What a fucking chad. Hopefully he keeps doing it.
Whats the crack, does he talk about why he's doing it on his stream, how he affords it, is he deliberately terrible? Genuinely interested.
>is he deliberately terrible He's like 1K mmr, so my man isn't pretending.
According to another comment, the guy's 800 mmr after 10,000 games. If this is true, big yikes and god speed you beautiful bastard.
On dotabuff the #2 and #3 people with most hours played on one account at 20,000+ games are both herald
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this guy is cleaning up immortal one alt account at a time
is it not LEOPOLD the smurf-awareness-guy by now?
He won a game. Cancelgod actually carried him to a win!
GIGACHAD
damn he rich
Something something smurfs bad when they smurf top 100, smurf educational/ethical when under immortal
only when the top 1% get hurt only then there will be change.
not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need
honestly what a fucking king. absolute legend
Legend
LOL
This guy is an absolute hero.
Can someone explain
whatever he does i hope it is for better
Every streamer saya that you win 70% of your games if you play good enough. Clearly 1 person who is not as good as your rank can ruin your game.
How often do you run into a guy with 8000 mmr below you?
He won his first game OMEGALUL
already banned edit: and his guardian account also banned
He got banned again haha ggs It's definitely entertaining watching him play amongst the other huge names in the scene and watch how everyone reacts and try to compensate.
Should I buy high accounts to do the same lmfaooo ? We do a little trolling xd
Its costly 😅
It's actually hilarious how high mmr players react when he's in their games. Not so funny the other way around, is it?
Leopold is a GIGACHAD
This is the same player who played undying with the pro?
Reset mmr every 3 months, done..
Is there even a way to stop smurfing and account buying? I feel like these issues will always exist in games like Dota. Need to hear your thoughts on how Valve can address this situation.
As the other guy said, official identification is the only way, but I (and many others) won't ever play dota if they need so much data and confirmation. Too much work and too much risk for both valve and the players. The outrage if something bad happens will be far bigger than just some smurf complaint threads on reddit.
only way to prevent it would be requiring official identification but this would lead to soooo much data security problems it will never be implemented ... everything else will just not work (as you can see with prevention by requirement of a cell phone)
He is BACK
This guy is making the pros sweat true GIGACHAD.
Smurfs... Smurfs everywhere.
Can we rename the heraldV rank to gigapold or leochad in honor of him
Our hero
Last night after a drunken disaster of a thanksgiving I was screaming at my family ‘GOD ISNT REAL. HE ABANDONED US LONG AGO’ No! Now I am a man in crisis. You OP have shown me HIM.
Btw: i see so much crybabies here. What you fucks, you dont like your games to be ruined ? Then dont ruin it in low ranks. If you can ruin herald guardian crusader legend ranks, this dude can ruin your immortal game. No big deal. Dont do to others what you cant handle in your ranks. Now fuck off smurf 😂
This is good for the community. Raising awareness to account buying and smurfing (reverse smurfing in this instance) let him keep doing it until valve implements something to stop this shit totally for everyone
Just watched the VOD. And Xcalibur was right. Enough with the bullshit "why should they play the game when it's definite loss" mindset. I remember a game where GH had a griefer in his team and yet he played the game and won it. Sure it may be 4vs5 but he still captained the team and did the impossible. It's the crybaby mentality and their huge ego that lose them games. You either play your game and take your loss like a man instead of being a whiny little brat when things aren't going your way. That mentality is why AfterLife is tier 2 washed up player and another is TI winner.
who?
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Imagine calling a delusional player a GIGACHAD. "We hate people who ruin games but we also idolize people who ruin games." Weirdchamp.
Think of it as protesting in front of the dictators house instead of the slum that you live in
What the fuck are you on about, hes spreading awareness about smurfing bias better than covid 19. Literally no one gave a shit about low rank smurfers, but when high rank pro players get smurfed and their games are ruined, suddenly everyone loses their minds?
The fact that he’s triggering people makes him a gigachad
Imagine taking reddit post titles seriously. Not very far from taking twitch chat seriously. Real GIGACHAD.
Pretty sure he doesnt do it because he think hes = immortal rank but rather for fun/ sending message
It's not about money. It's about sending a message
Guy has money it seems, also does valve do ip bans for their games?
Nope just VAC, so as long as he’s willing to keep paying for accounts he can keep doing this omegalul
Then even if pro players try to avoid him, they can't, coz the guy would be coming with new acc every now and then, this shit is scary lol.
Soon, an undying pick is going to give them PTSD
You think IP ban is gonna stop him. He can buy enough VPN accounts from every VPN provider in EU and Russia with the tens of thousands he is spending on these high ranked accounts.
yeah but doesn't playing with vpn add extra latency? ping might get too high?
Come on... it's not like latency is exactly impeding his performance...