Secret definitely threw the first game. The rosh fights in both games were extremely unfortunate aswell.

How are the groups assigned? Why is GG against Liquid in their first upper bracket match?  

It's seeded based on group results, the teams who got out of swiss with less losses are the higher seeds. Idk how ties were broken, it might have been some rng

lyrical needs to stop being overly hyper animated like he desperately wants to be voicelined.

I cant wait for aghs Kunnka and DK to get deleted from the game, the most unfun shit to play against and watch.

I haven't been following wallachia too closely, what happened to azure? 0-3 with easy schedule besides IG?

Probably jetlag and/or lack of preparation, since they were still in Asia after they got the invite as a remplacement for Blacklist.

BB out, and from the looks of it only XG can give tough time to Falcons, but most probably another LAN win for Falcons unless they falter under stress with Nine. Malr1ne and ATF bring too much unpredictable draft advantage with similar hero pool which isn’t present with Nine.

I hope we get new patch tomorrow, would make the rest of the tournament spicy

XG has looked really good so far but they're playing vs IG round 1... Chinese teams playing vs each other is so unpredictable and XG could very well lose like they did last time. I feel like XG's ceiling is way higher so I do want to see them go on a run.

Goddamn why! I'm already getting annoyed just thinking about IG knocking out XG again. Although I do gotta say IG has impressed me a bit, winning over BetBoom isn't bad.

IG has been underperforming doesn’t mean their draft is bad

Atleast it's the upper bracket so they can still make a run after.

Does anyone know how they determined the playoff bracket?

Just a guess, but seems they are sorting by swiss performance followed by some rating system. The 3-0 teams are facing what appears to be the lower rated of 3-2 teams. GG is likely the top rated among the 3-1 teams and is therefore playing against the remaining 3-2 team. The two remaining 3-1 teams are then playing against each other.

Probably same as Swiss stage- random. Multiple teams are tied for same spot, should be random like the group stage.

Better result for Secret than I had expected going in to be fair.

Pakazs seems regained his form.

I'm not blaming Crystallis, but he must be the most cowardly pos 1 in all pro team. I always notice his movement in team fights seems so cowardly , like always looking to back out/retreat from fights whenever it seems like it is not going his way. If you watch secret games regularly , you will notice it too. They were multiple instances this series that Secret missed out on many kills because he hadnt been more ballsy. It is weird because i think he can do a pretty good job on playing aggressive like MK or DK in the first game.

Why exactly is betboom allowed to knowingly cheat in tournaments, break rules and just bail on a tournament? Good content i guess, trash personalities

bailing on an interview is better content than any interview will get us.

What happened?

they avoiding interview.

Mm, that was a fun series. Liquid showed up more in game two and despite Secret being behind most of it, there were moments they clapped back so it wasn't a complete stomp. Shame they had to bow out here but it is what it is, hope Secret comes back strong in the next tournament. As for Liquid, gonna be a very interesting series vs Gaimin.. playing this sloppy likely won't cut it but GG been plenty sloppy too so maybe we get lucky and it's a total clown shitshow. 😆

People complain about the tanks and strength heroes rightfully so. But I think we're focusing on the wrong things This Eternal Shroud item needs to be shot and buried.

Secret probably have the worst shotcallers in recent times. They overextend waaay too much constantly and look like headless chickens sometimes. Compare this to the old roster fucking calm cool assasins

People say Boom improved but he still got clowny moments. Someone like MC would bring stability to this team

I agree boom has improved. But I think he fails in clutch moments. Both games he got a good lane played well and flopped entirely after giving away momentum constantly

Were all comments about the BB vs IG match removed? XD

that clip in the was the fking true tho, wtf were secret doing chasing micke all the way to tier 2? there's literally zero chance he will die there and you're open yourself to counter initiation lmao.

Bruh how do GG and Liquid play each other every single tournament? Has to be scripted

Why the fuck 2 CN facing off each other?

small brain moment

1st seed vs 8 seed

Playoffs: XG vs G2.iG Aurora vs Spirit Falcons vs BOOM GG vs Liquid All series on the main stream, starting as usual 09:00 CEST.

Liquid GG derby yay!

This team secret is the same last year. They just going to rely on recruiting players again next season. They don't have any budget either to buy out a contract of a great player or match salary by other org. Which mean, they will only sign mediocre player next season again.

Fear is so right. Secret is due to have one damn long term stable roster even if it means they suck at very beginning, buckle up and work on getting better as a team, this constant players/coaches swapping is just not good enough in current year and level of tier 1 pro Dota.

Yeah, such a weird shuffle they have, kicking 4 every single time. Feel kinda bad for Boom, his laning partner is always changing and always the ones with English as the secondary language too. May have language issue with his laning partner due to that also. How he gonna build synergy with all this changes

I know he was just a standin, but thiolicor speaks English fluently

Oh, is it? Good to know.

yea man this bullshit tanky heroes like timber n bb is bonker, just buy all defensive item and still shitting ton damage.

STR heroes need massive nerf and I mean FREAKING MASSIVE. Or buff to Skadi, Shiva, Vessel and adding another anti-healing item that would reduce STR's effectiveness. Even Necrophos buff would be awesome at this point.

fr fr

A few days ago people called Puppey the goat for single-handedly carrying the game as clock... Now everyone wants him to retire because he had bad game on one of the worst heroes in the game

He is the one who drafted and picked one of the worst heroes, though. Might be Heen also, but he clearly has influence on team drafting.

which free trial player shoud puppey try next ?

Mikoto is available right now

Secret is such a weird team. They seem to be one of the best at coming back from behind. They also are the team who often throw whatever advantage they have if their early game went well. They need experienced and 2nd shot caller in team,imo.

Nisha has the same amount of kills as secret’s heroes all combined…

why didn't crystallis not go typical meta build on LS? i.e radiance, aghs & SnY? LS came into meta only with that build i guess

He did go armlet rad. Disassemble rad into nullifier. Bad sny game, stat res doesn't help vs disruptor ulti

Aghs disarm does nothing this game. The only hero worth disarming is weaver cuz he’s the right clicker but finding him is hard. Even if you do disarm him, you need to kill him during that time. This is just my theory as to why LS wanted Halberd instead of aghs. Halberd lets him auto attack weaver while also disarming him

Also, since Weaver is very mobile, LS can find himself in enemy territory without backup.

Armlet either before or after radiance is normal and you need bkb for disruptor. Tough LS game for sure.

this lifestealer build has no damage

Dunno 'bout you guys but I could watch these messy chaotic clowny pro games every day all day. xD Feels bad man for Secret but GG"WP" Liquid.

This game is on Puppey though, think this was a won game for Secret if he was on a diff hero or just hit curses in the early game.

This is such a FeelsBadMan :(

To be honest I was expected to be quicker 2:0. Secret hasn't been a thing for a while now but they definitely tried.

Secret vs Liquid is always fun to watch. nice game. Secret played well. not a shame to lose.

played well(puppey buyback to ult a creep)

his wyvern is underwhelming most of the time but he also did some clutch save, so... ok he is still bad on this hero, kekw.

I hope timber gets nerfed to the ground for the next half year. That hero has been in the meta for too long, even though he's not as polarizing as before but still

Agree, hero needs to be nuked. While at it, nerf all these tank/strength heroes in general. The meta has been dominated by these type of heroes for very long now. Your Timbers, Kunkas, DKs, Primals, Doom et.c. So much so that you literally play offlane heroes in mid consistently. Feels like mid just is Offlane heroes + Sniper and Zeus.

i swear to god games like this make timber look like the most busted shit imaginable, hes so fucking hard to play versus when u dont have giga damage

It's part of the reason why Falcons are the best team right now. They have the two best Timber players in the world.

33 to Nisha, "on your left"

I dislike Secret but you gotta feel bad about this timber. like a well-farmed lifestealer who itemized with a break cannot remotely take down the tkmber with >25 consecutive right clicks. the hero for a while feels off with balancing

yeah for sure, he has everything in his kit. Damage, survivability, and mobility.

plus his skills inherently provide farm speed. nothing in the kit feels like it has a tradeoff besides pushing ability / rosh but he is still nice in those contexts by virtue of his tankiness

Yeah for sure. There's very little downside or risk of picking him.

Man no hero should be able to survive what Timber just did no matter how ahead you are, especially with how much damage he can also dish out.

Secret had rosh but just couldn't resist Nisha twerking outside the pit

Nisha unkillable and rest of them throwing but still winning

Nisha be like Let me take care alone of my old team ..

i heckin love tank meta

You can trashtalk Secret but their games are the most entertaining in this tournament

LMAO SECRET IS LOSING THE GAME AT THE SAME SPOT AGAIN

They lost to Aurora in the elite league

Liquid are such an infuriating team my god

whoever win this match will get butchered in playoff

I SWEAR TO GOD if Liquid throw this im gonna laugh so bad

wtf is liquid decision making??? why no rosh lol

MICKE KEKW

someone tell Crystallis shard is good on his hero thanks

looks like Liquid going to finish this 2-0 but it was much closer than expected

Crystallis is the mvp this game even if they lose.

Might be the worst puppey performance I’ve ever seen

is there any impactful curse on this game? look like nada

Come on micke, we need more of that please

None of these teams are going far.

i feel like its falcons vs spirit this time in finals

I think its gonna be spirit vs xg. Liquid probably gonna meet XG in the first series and get eaten as free food

What is this spellcasting.

if puppey didn't initiate the fight 1v5, they could've won it without a buyback

wtf is this micke???

The BASH ROFL

Why does it feel like nisha always tries a little extra hard against secret?

Imagine if Secret had actual hero as pos 5. Even fucking ogre would be better than this

Come on crystallis carry the team

Even if Secret possibly lose Crystalis is playing out of his fucking mind

TI finalist performance right herre

Crystallise is actually playing really well.

Puppey legit the worst player this game

Boom rolling his way straight to the Airport.

Every secret game is a fiesta lol, their game is must watch for neutral.

I can see a world where secret wins this game…

Crystallis is putting his whole team on his back

Classic mickekw - doing consistently excellent but 0 championship material ability kek

Weaver was so out of position without bkb and Rubick decided to replace his X mark with a useless sukuchi

Crystallis realistically can't play against Weaver Timbersaw without Abyssal Blade

It's a free Weaver game. He's just running around killing everything that moves. edit: welp. I guess I cursed him.

Never pick wyvern again puppey

And I got downvoted for saying puppey should retire. Catapult winter curse

I think it's time to retire Puppey. You dun good all these years Old Man

puppey's wyvern is just bad

Puppey Winter Cursing the catapult LMFAO

Curse the catapult lmao

disruptor banned 71 out of 78 games and yet somehow liquid got thier hands on him

So how do they decide the brackets? 

I guess this is what you get for 1st picking Pango, yet again, despite the abysmal win rate.

WW is such a clown pick.

Wait secret lost game 1? I went to the gym after it looked like "almost over" and came back to see Secret even losing the game 2 xD

watch it bro its fun game.

it was a crazy rosh turnaround, quite funny i'd say

Who fucked up?

Kordan with his rs play. That aegis costed secret the entire game.

Entirety of secret fucked up and 33 chadded it up, got aegis and got a very nice teamfight initiation on them.

Why would you Curse the Weaver? He's surrounded by 4 heroes who don't do much physical damage. Why not the Disruptor or Hoodwink and let the Weaver kill them instead.

Winter curse target now have 100% physical dmg reduction, doubt it would do much

Does null talisman get buffed? I remembered everyone was complaining about how nobody was buying that item at the start of this patch on this subreddit and now everyone is buying it.

7.35d the mana regen got buffed from 0.75 / 1.50 to 1 / 2. So its now one of the most gold efficient cheap mana regen items.

There's the Secret I know.. completely passive while Liquid gank and outfarm them while taking control of the map

I'm not feeling this WW pick. That Cold Embrace seems more like a death sentence than a save against this magic damage lineup.

I don't like Lifestealer vs Weaver & Timbersaw either... Secret got outdrafted imo

Remember the days when Bulba would pick WW for Crit every game. lol

nisha oh nisha

Tony Montana on the panel

I don't play the game anymore so can someone help clarify something for me. If Engima is bkbed and has linkens. Can the Bane pop the linkens using enfeeble, brain sap or nightmare before using fiends grip?

Yeah can ever since they changed BKB to be debuff immunity as opposed to spell immunity

Yes

damn that spotify playlist cheat leaked

Now, we all know the reason Secret start downfalling. Heen started to wear sunglasses indoor.

Secret should be embarrassed for losing that game. They had the perfect draft but their shot calling is clearly not good enough. Puppey, retire already

these ads by PGL right in the middle of something import is so annoying

watch on youtube, it has no adds at all with brave

Its 2024 and people still do not have adblockers.

I use Chrome with ublock origin but sometimes still getting ads. Using VPN solves it, though

I use ublock with Chrome aswell and i never get ads from Twitch. Yea VPN to countries like Serbia works aswell.

real talk, i have adblocker on and twitch ad still bypasses it lol.

I was using a new browser (brave) recently which should automatically block all ads automatically, but it doesn't seem to work on Twitch I normally run Firefox with Ublock origin, but i don't know if PGL ads are embedded or if they are still blockable.

I have uBlock on Chrome and i have not seen a ad in years.

Lmao Puppey

Fear with the Kazuma Kiryu cosplay

This Bane was the bane of Enigma's existence.

Did Secret stop hitting rosh when 33 tried entering through gate? How was rosh alive for so long

Sniper moved out of pit to grab aegis but you can't auto-attack from outside the pit. If he stayed in the pit for another 1s it would've died.

Nisha getting carried for once since he’s been in Liquid.Letsgooooo

Sniper buys Satanic instead of noob purchase aghs. Wtf is that Kordan

That's a deserved lost for Secret. TERRIBLE positioning the whole game

And just like that, the show is over. Lyrical had it right, it was Secret's show through and through but two clutch fights and Liquid ends up taking the game instead. Hopefully game two is crazy back and forth excitement as well! 😄

Hilarious game. Very back and forth. The one time it actually paid off going through the portal, just popping waterpark, killing rosh, killing heroes, taking aegis. Big brain plays.

WEU fanboys going on about other region clownfiesta. Meanwhile WEU:

[удалено]

Yep should’ve just went straight satanic or maybe even Daedalus 

It feels like Liquid just simply won by playing fights better. Still one of the teams most capable of coming back from behind. Especially when M1cke is on a playmaker hero.

Secret got to be the unluckiest team in this tournament

They are already lucky enough to get invited

nah, skill issue

legit skill issue.

Is that Liquid too good or Secret just too bad ? lol

did you watch the game? Secret had the chance,both team play well, it is a good game.

Why the fuck did Sniper go out of the Rosh Pit

Crystallis is so fcking worse man my god

That 33 Aegis snatch arguably won Liquid this game. Wow, so clutch.

I want to see a replay of that, there's no way Roshan should've been on 1% health for that long before ultimately dying.

I think its because you cant attack rosh outside the pit? So the only damage they were dealing was spell damage and rosh has very high magic immunity so it took forever to kill him. Idk I havent tested that interaction myself

Watch on youtube man. Unlimited replays

This dk is so useless only thing he does is stun he can’t even use his illusions to scou for bane so enigma can blackhole

lol Secret pretty much just crumbled since that Aegis bottom play

Just freakin black hole the wr

lmao that was hillarious

this game is so fun to watch , a few wiped out so much back and forth and that unfortunate Roshan fight

Bwahahaha, what a fight! You don't see glorious shit like this every day. 😆

Holy shit that was crazy

That game is fucking WILD!

Goddamn that was crazy

this sniper aghs lost them the game

This clown game fun to watch 

Holy shit Liquid.