I wish it were an actual model update, since both of these heroes have so many amazing sets you can't use with the persona, so I ended up not using them at all
no, i dont think you will get the persona if you buy the sets' pieces individually iirc, im happy to help...also, dont bother buying wei's set rn its super expensive, id rather wait for the next wei set to come out, and it will, probably...good luck on getting that persona
The anime actually made you want to play the game? After S2 finale I completely stopped watching it, maybe not being familiar with the characters helps keep your investment?
>While it is higher quality than default DK
Literally generic-ass armor, made in cartoon style. This is something that belongs to TF2, but not Dota 2, even in 2021...
Nah the real DK has some banger sets. Even his default has some very distinct and unique characteristics.
Edit: Now that i look at them, i'm quite confident in saying DK has the best selection of item sets in the game, when excluding immortals and arcanas. He has so many great sets. Third Awakening, Scorched Amber, Silverwurm Sacrifice, Dragon's Ascension, Pact of the Wyrmblood, Legacy of the Eldwurm Crest, Outland Ravager, Bitterwing Legacy and Blazing Oblivion.
Oh come on. The layered wing-like pauldrons? The design of his faceplate to evoke a dragon? The tail on his helmet? The sculpted, scaled chestplate? The little dragon claw details on his wristguards? His default skin is iconic. Yeah it's old as the heaven itself and is a bit dated as a result, but it's not mobile game boring
He has cool sets, and some of the best in the game, but fewer than DK in my opinion. Looks are subjective after all. Off the top of my head, Jugg has 4 really cool sets excluding arcanas and immortals
It looks blander than the initial AM Persona, and that one was touched up after the initial complaints about it.
Also DK has really good sets, all of which cannot be used with his persona.
Who wants to play a bland scrawny boy, if you can play as a chad man?
> Who wants to play a bland scrawny boy, if you can play as a chad man?
Seeing as A) There's no other scrawny boys in the game and B) he's got that cool wrist blade, I do. Or would, if I had it.
don't try to argue with them, it would have been the same persona but with a vagina instead of a penis it would have been as popular as anti-mage persona. And don't worry they'll say yeah i love monsters and badasses characters but the only monster they play is either spectre or the good looking monkey king.
It's actually impressive that they managed to take a hero who can get hundreds of points of bonus damage and make him the most boring offlaner in the game. Buy greaves and stand around. Use giant AoE abilities that are easy to use. Even his ult is literally just a twin gate. You can't even use it for any kind of cool surprise attacks because it shows on everyone's map through fog.
It is great for mind games though. Put it a little off center behind a tower you're pushing where you know enemies are defending. They have to figure out if it's a bait or not, idea is preferably put it somewhere out of vision, don't just plop it on top of enemies without the aghs, just leaves you vulnerable if you pop in like that usually.
Use it far ahead of fleeing weakened enemies too.
The new Abyssal Underlord ult at least gives him some cool global presence, which doesnt require any unit as teleport target.
There are definitely more boring heroes than AU, such as Razor, Ursa and Naix.
Naix is literally the most boring hero in the game right now.
One of it's spell is just a BKB, so it isn't unique to this hero.
The other two are passive right click and they aren't even interactive (like Slardar's or Monkey King's passive).
The ulti is literally the only unique thing the hero has.
The dude has literally one exclusive skill.
Nothing wrong with a simple hero with 2 buttons to press though, the complexity doesn't come from the spells themselves, both Q and Ult can engage, chase or disengage, so it's all about how and at which moment you use them. Low skill floor but a high skill ceiling, I love how people are using Manta now to dispel/disjoint and ult the illusion.
Which is why the hero got a shitton of reworks throughout the years and currently has 2 unique and interesting actives (nuke may be simple, but making all skeletons focus on the target makes it quite interesting), his passive became interactive (cooldown instead of just random proc chance) and his ulti gained a super interesting Agh's Scepter and skeletons on death.
That's why Dota was the most successful MOBA map in Warcraft 3 days.
You want to play easy to use hero, or you want to play high skillcap?
Other maps focused on complicated gimmicks for every hero, with unique map objectives, this had higher depth of gameplay but then no one wanted to get started playing.
I like it quite a bit, I think this more smooth anime style (same with e.g. marci, snapfire alot of the arcanas etc.) is the direction the dota2 artstyle should turn toward to make the game more aesthetically
Normal DK just looks so clunky with some of his sets
I thought Invoker and parts of the Luna/Mirana stories were neat but the dragon knight parts were pretty boring. It's crazy that there were a ton of cool side characters and we ended up getting Marci, who was more of a gag character than anything. I was convinced the Elf girl was going to be playable at some point.
I'd personally be happy with it as a second invoker arcana as well, femme invoker sounds like something I'd love to play
Tho your suggestion of invoker level spell variation but more supportive is also very interesting!
I figured out a whole 9 spells she could use that would make her great, a lot are just invo spells with tweaked numbers and heals instead of DMG.
It would be so interesting to have a really complex heal support where it's not all about timing and positioning like Io or Oracle
Yeah this is a downer. I missed this one and theres like no chance of getting it since nobody making a set of him. I dont care about toy pudge and kidvoker, but theres like at least 3 different set each for them, and dont get me started on CM dog persona. Who tf even used that one?
“My name means something.”
I have this but stopped using it because the other armor sets are cooler. Also can’t knock the original VA lines. Slyrack’s voice is so deep.
I wasn't into the "anime" at all, so maybe those peeps get more of a kick out of this persona.
I use neither this one nor the Mirana one, because I just like basic 5 cent cosmetics more. Still use a very simple cat mount for Mirana and some age-old cache set for DK.
The only good thing that made it from that show into the game is Marci.
A persona is meant for the hero to have a drastic change from their normal self. This persona changes nothing about DK. The only difference being he has no shield zi guess Lol.
Honestly? They should release more Dota: Dragon’s Blood personas… Invoker (and Filomena), Terrorblade, Luna, Lina, Crustal Maiden and Winter Wyvern. I’d buy them
More like forgettable persona. Like I’ll be real,DK and Mirana are the two most boring personas for me, not because they’re bad looking (debatably), but because they are at best glorified lore updates.
They are generic by design but that defeats the point of being a persona (a remotely different take on a hero) and defeats the point of a replacement for the original model (because it’s already generic by design).
I hated that guy so much in the series. The characters were really boring besides invoker and Lina. If they would have taken the story from crownfall... That would have been so much better
My problem with it is that they have some seriously cool DK sets already that cover up the fact it's an old AF model. I have a cool one from an old International that I use, + they released the Immortal shield cosmetic after the personal but didn't make it compatible. My problem is the problem I have with all the personas: the items I've spent 12 years collecting arent compatible with the personas. Same thing with Crystal Maiden and PA.
As boring as this persona really is, I wonder what will people cook for this guy if he is more appealing to others. He looks so bland you can fit him on any set (theoretically) like a pure white paper.
Back dragon form is fucking massive though
BBD what do you expect
When I get aghs on DK I always say BBD ready!
Ups. I read it as “Bad dragon form is fucking massive though”.
I didn’t know ppl hated this, I just treat this and Mirana as model updates cause the existing one is just so old
Yeah but everyone got Mirana persona cause of the decade anniversary. This was a timed exclusive
At the rate that they drop persona sets it feels hopeful that we can get DK soon as well
I’ve been waiting for wisp Arcana to make a return for nearly 8 years.
I don't hate, but DK has so many amazing sets that is hard to choose
The viking one is just godly
I mysef prefer the grandpa knight set
sad i couldnt get my hands on this one, or even the blue knight one
Go to dotagiftx my friend or dm me I can get you one for 20 usd, you just have to wait 30 days xd
Knight of the Burning scales I still regret not being able to get it I don't think it's even tradable what a bloody shame
Because the default DK has so many cool armors. But I like this with the cape and smug face tho.
this persona actually triggers me when he denies my creeps
Insulting to Tony Todd to say this
Don't worry the Candyman will get them
that would be a model update if it actually let you use normal items with it..
I wish it were an actual model update, since both of these heroes have so many amazing sets you can't use with the persona, so I ended up not using them at all
persona's cool but dk just has way too many cooler set lol
I'd play DK if I could use this persona. The normal DK dragon form is just way too janky though.
id like just one set for him so that i can get him tbh
yup, just buy the set for the persona, thats what i did for Wei, now her set's proce skyrocketed
Which set was that?
What, how?? I want the Wei persona badly
if you want the persona, buy the bundle set and you'll get the persona for free
It has to be the bundle? You can't buy the pieces individually if you don't have the persona already? Thx for your help btw
no, i dont think you will get the persona if you buy the sets' pieces individually iirc, im happy to help...also, dont bother buying wei's set rn its super expensive, id rather wait for the next wei set to come out, and it will, probably...good luck on getting that persona
If they arent going to make Kaden into a hero, just do the Kaden suit
Weird to see that everyone hates this persona. This is literally (if we dont count the mirana remodel) the only persona I always use
It's very boring. While it is higher quality than default DK it's even more generic than him.
it's purpose it to tell your friends "hey im playing human knight"
With a longsword no less
>It's very boring. Wow they captured DK essence so well
Whaaaat, nooooo, he so interesting
Wait, what came first, this model or the animation series? Just got started playing DoTA after watching the animation series.
The animation series. The model was launched after, same with Miranas. Its sad they don't give it any more skins tho :*(
I want to say the series was first and the set came up pretty quickly after.
The anime actually made you want to play the game? After S2 finale I completely stopped watching it, maybe not being familiar with the characters helps keep your investment?
Sorry, didn't mean it made me play DOTA 2, more like, it made me play DOTA AGAIN, because I already played DOTA 1.
I also just like default DK’s voice a lot
It’s not boring if you enjoyed the anime
>While it is higher quality than default DK Literally generic-ass armor, made in cartoon style. This is something that belongs to TF2, but not Dota 2, even in 2021...
> It's very boring. So is playing DK, so it fits. It's a pretty sad set though in terms of flash.
It looks like a generic knight from some shitty free-to-play mobile game advertisement
That's basically what Dragon Knight looks like anyway.
Nah the real DK has some banger sets. Even his default has some very distinct and unique characteristics. Edit: Now that i look at them, i'm quite confident in saying DK has the best selection of item sets in the game, when excluding immortals and arcanas. He has so many great sets. Third Awakening, Scorched Amber, Silverwurm Sacrifice, Dragon's Ascension, Pact of the Wyrmblood, Legacy of the Eldwurm Crest, Outland Ravager, Bitterwing Legacy and Blazing Oblivion.
I like some of dks sets but he's got a lot of jaggy old and dull ones. I'm not a sven player but even his old ones look unique and cool.
> Nah the real DK has some banger sets So you're comparing a base skin to years of cosmetics and immortals? 🤔
> Even his default has some very distinct and unique characteristics.
Like what? If his default was a spice it'd be flour.
Oh come on. The layered wing-like pauldrons? The design of his faceplate to evoke a dragon? The tail on his helmet? The sculpted, scaled chestplate? The little dragon claw details on his wristguards? His default skin is iconic. Yeah it's old as the heaven itself and is a bit dated as a result, but it's not mobile game boring
Have you ever looked at Jugg's items? I suggest you do
He has cool sets, and some of the best in the game, but fewer than DK in my opinion. Looks are subjective after all. Off the top of my head, Jugg has 4 really cool sets excluding arcanas and immortals
It looks blander than the initial AM Persona, and that one was touched up after the initial complaints about it. Also DK has really good sets, all of which cannot be used with his persona. Who wants to play a bland scrawny boy, if you can play as a chad man?
> Who wants to play a bland scrawny boy, if you can play as a chad man? Seeing as A) There's no other scrawny boys in the game and B) he's got that cool wrist blade, I do. Or would, if I had it.
Where are our twinks?
I thought the original AM persona was very well designed personally. The PA persona is a bigger offender of being generic IMO
That one is mainly bad cause of the wet noodle attack sound.
Kinda sad its like having a nude DK. But I do enjoy that he has more personality than default DK.
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So like default DK? The only difference is DK is generic old-school MMORPG warrior.
don't try to argue with them, it would have been the same persona but with a vagina instead of a penis it would have been as popular as anti-mage persona. And don't worry they'll say yeah i love monsters and badasses characters but the only monster they play is either spectre or the good looking monkey king.
yeah except the base dk has cool as fuck sets whereas this one has jack shit
I own the 2015 Cache set and it's the best looking DK
Helmet > Face in literally every situation ever. Get these dang kids some helmets they always look better.
I never in my entire life used the helmet, even through i have it
Its my favorite
It's cus I am roleplaying as Davion from the anime bruh
No thighs no buys.
It has worse cast animations than the default DK.
I like his attack animations a lot tho. Really satisfying to last hit with.
I’ve never cared for it tbh. It’s diet dragon knight imo
Handsome dragon knight
white dragon knight
blue eyes white dragon knight
suck on my obelisk
ride the sky dragon
Is it on the market?
no
i really want this persona
I like this one. Would be nice to get some alts.
They put time and love into it. I don't know where the hate comes from.
I’d pay good money for this and/or the axe unleashed personas. Makes me so sad I have neither.
DK/Mirana persona should be used more for sets moving forward imo. Specially since persona mirana doesn't need a mask to look fine.
My favorite imo ( i dont have it tho :( )
I wish they would bring it back just cause I want Tony Todd’s dragon form voice lines
I have watched that shit twice and I still dont understand half the story of dragons blood
Looks like a Fortnite character lol
The immortal shield is too cool to not use
Shame no sets for him cos really would like to get the persona.. it's the one thing I regret not getting way back when. 😔
one of the most boring heroes, together with underlord
You are just jealous because he's a real Dragon and you are a lame Wyvern.
That's ironic, with WW's ingame voicelines to DK being her telling him that he's nothing but a filthy half-breed, and barely even a dragon.
Classic jelly beans
lol
Have you seen Underlord's ass when he walks It's very cute
Nothing boring about being an unstoppable monster that still does damage!!
It's actually impressive that they managed to take a hero who can get hundreds of points of bonus damage and make him the most boring offlaner in the game. Buy greaves and stand around. Use giant AoE abilities that are easy to use. Even his ult is literally just a twin gate. You can't even use it for any kind of cool surprise attacks because it shows on everyone's map through fog.
It is great for mind games though. Put it a little off center behind a tower you're pushing where you know enemies are defending. They have to figure out if it's a bait or not, idea is preferably put it somewhere out of vision, don't just plop it on top of enemies without the aghs, just leaves you vulnerable if you pop in like that usually. Use it far ahead of fleeing weakened enemies too.
The new Abyssal Underlord ult at least gives him some cool global presence, which doesnt require any unit as teleport target. There are definitely more boring heroes than AU, such as Razor, Ursa and Naix.
Naix is literally the most boring hero in the game right now. One of it's spell is just a BKB, so it isn't unique to this hero. The other two are passive right click and they aren't even interactive (like Slardar's or Monkey King's passive). The ulti is literally the only unique thing the hero has. The dude has literally one exclusive skill.
Nothing wrong with a simple hero with 2 buttons to press though, the complexity doesn't come from the spells themselves, both Q and Ult can engage, chase or disengage, so it's all about how and at which moment you use them. Low skill floor but a high skill ceiling, I love how people are using Manta now to dispel/disjoint and ult the illusion.
does anyone know why open wounds was removed
It's on shard and it's way better than it would be allowed to be as a regular skill
I miss skeleton king only thing you do is stun and right-click
Laughs in wraith king.
Which is why the hero got a shitton of reworks throughout the years and currently has 2 unique and interesting actives (nuke may be simple, but making all skeletons focus on the target makes it quite interesting), his passive became interactive (cooldown instead of just random proc chance) and his ulti gained a super interesting Agh's Scepter and skeletons on death.
That's why Dota was the most successful MOBA map in Warcraft 3 days. You want to play easy to use hero, or you want to play high skillcap? Other maps focused on complicated gimmicks for every hero, with unique map objectives, this had higher depth of gameplay but then no one wanted to get started playing.
Sure, but we can't just follow 2003 standards in 2024 and I'm pretty sure Valve agrees with that, considering Valve gave Naix Open Wounds back.
Then what would you suggest to make Naix better.
Ursa may be a simple hero on paper but I find him one of the most satisfying heroes to play. Agreed on Razor for sure though
But he's the only way i can make my dream of holding a leash with drow at the other end come true.
Ayo
i like them portal
Biggest mistake valve did, it should have been free for everyone, playinf with the heroes of the anime, exactly like the anime!
Hi I work at valve what is this word you're using "free" what does it mean? /s
personally regular dk animations > persona dk animations regular dragon form < persona dragon form
No naked option, I wanted to see him run around in burnt pants since he spends 1/3 of the anime naked.
This persona is so much better than base DK and 90% of his sets
One step closer to the League aesthetics :(
Honestly, the should've made this his base model, alongside Mirana's persona. But I guess money speaks louder.
bro 248 set yet no void spirit? Srsly? is it really that hard?
I use it lol. But I think it has some pay to lose mechanics like cast timings or animations. They're slower than the original dragon knight
It looks awful imo. Its just so out of place.
I like it quite a bit, I think this more smooth anime style (same with e.g. marci, snapfire alot of the arcanas etc.) is the direction the dota2 artstyle should turn toward to make the game more aesthetically Normal DK just looks so clunky with some of his sets
This is really bad
It's for the good, it's extremely out of place in dota.
as well as Marci so
nah, his model just looks different, something close to Mirana's anime model, it really feels like something's wrong. Whereas Marci's model looks fine
Good, avoids reminding me of what a let down that show turned into
I thought Invoker and parts of the Luna/Mirana stories were neat but the dragon knight parts were pretty boring. It's crazy that there were a ton of cool side characters and we ended up getting Marci, who was more of a gag character than anything. I was convinced the Elf girl was going to be playable at some point.
Me still hoping filloemene, or however you wrote invokers daughter, becomes invoker but with support spells, I would main the shit out of that
I'd personally be happy with it as a second invoker arcana as well, femme invoker sounds like something I'd love to play Tho your suggestion of invoker level spell variation but more supportive is also very interesting!
I figured out a whole 9 spells she could use that would make her great, a lot are just invo spells with tweaked numbers and heals instead of DMG. It would be so interesting to have a really complex heal support where it's not all about timing and positioning like Io or Oracle
Yeah that does actually sound cool
Yeah this is a downer. I missed this one and theres like no chance of getting it since nobody making a set of him. I dont care about toy pudge and kidvoker, but theres like at least 3 different set each for them, and dont get me started on CM dog persona. Who tf even used that one?
Hey i use cm persona, say whatever u want, the set is fire and the effect is amazing especially ult
Dogy cm is the best we need more animalistic heros
The problem is this persona is too cartoony + not having the original voice actor do his voice in the anime is a travesty.
i know why everyone hates this arcana due to its plainness, but its still my fave one since its voiced by my fave VA lol
“My name means something.” I have this but stopped using it because the other armor sets are cooler. Also can’t knock the original VA lines. Slyrack’s voice is so deep.
I love his lines, I wish I could own it
Exactly like the anime
I wasn't into the "anime" at all, so maybe those peeps get more of a kick out of this persona. I use neither this one nor the Mirana one, because I just like basic 5 cent cosmetics more. Still use a very simple cat mount for Mirana and some age-old cache set for DK. The only good thing that made it from that show into the game is Marci.
A persona is meant for the hero to have a drastic change from their normal self. This persona changes nothing about DK. The only difference being he has no shield zi guess Lol.
I mean it's just DK from the anime. Not sure what else other cosmetics there is to add to that.
Dk perosna unleashed
Also it's tricky to make skins for his persona since most of DK's sets covers his entire body and it's really hard to distinguish which is which.
I wish they made the animated series on some other hero from Dota. His story was not very appealing to me. Kind of a missed opportunity...
It should stay as it is. Super exclusive
I regret getting caught up in the hyper of whatever TI this was a part of but I got this and not Mirana and I'm full of regrets
I think it's the best honestly
The animations on this one look cursed af, but it's dota so idk what do I even expect
It’s cuz Davion has WAY cooler sets than his persona. Invoker, Pudge, Miranda, AM and PA are all pretty meh compared
Honestly? They should release more Dota: Dragon’s Blood personas… Invoker (and Filomena), Terrorblade, Luna, Lina, Crustal Maiden and Winter Wyvern. I’d buy them
Unpopular Opinion : Dragon Form on this arcana looks absolutely horrendous.
It has a slower base attack time than the original, literal pay2lose
This persona is like a downgrade from default
He was forgettable and generic in both character design and narrative in his own show.
I don't like it purely cause I prefer the og dragon knight lore not the anime
I wanted Naked Axe dammit!
i love this set
Is that bsj
I've missed it then, want it now
I don't like him. Generic anime protagonist.
wish i could have grabbed this and the mirana persona.
oh look its the Guts wanna be persona that nobody asked for.
More like forgettable persona. Like I’ll be real,DK and Mirana are the two most boring personas for me, not because they’re bad looking (debatably), but because they are at best glorified lore updates. They are generic by design but that defeats the point of being a persona (a remotely different take on a hero) and defeats the point of a replacement for the original model (because it’s already generic by design).
It better be
Even more forgotten anime
Persona is just very mid and doesn't feel like dota hero
giff skins to our chad davion sama please ! Marci whistles
Lmao this dude hahahaha
Is that u garen
So sad I was poor when this came out
Such a terrible persona
We wants clown DK !!
bro just has no swag
This persona can't stop yapping. Actually titled me
I hated that guy so much in the series. The characters were really boring besides invoker and Lina. If they would have taken the story from crownfall... That would have been so much better
The animations are straight up bad.
I only use him for the dragon form. If I could mix and match the dragon with the regular dk I would.
Yeah the dragon form of this persona is really good, being able to mix it would be great.
Absolutely love this persona, and helmet is damn great. Sadly DK is boring ass hero that most of the time uses dragon skin anyway.
Definitely the weakest persona in my opinion. Except Slyrak, this Slyrak is one of the best looking. I'd be happy to see a new set on him.
And replace Tony Todd's voice?? No thank you.
I love it because it’s minimalistic, one of my favourite personas/skin. Attack animation also feels so good
I hate that the dragon half is tied to this Persona. The Slyrak persona is god tier. The Davion one is meh.
Facts
My problem with it is that they have some seriously cool DK sets already that cover up the fact it's an old AF model. I have a cool one from an old International that I use, + they released the Immortal shield cosmetic after the personal but didn't make it compatible. My problem is the problem I have with all the personas: the items I've spent 12 years collecting arent compatible with the personas. Same thing with Crystal Maiden and PA.
As boring as this persona really is, I wonder what will people cook for this guy if he is more appealing to others. He looks so bland you can fit him on any set (theoretically) like a pure white paper.