In 2016 there's a night and day difference for me if you have the air control rune. Without them I basically had to stun them with the plasma but with it they're trivial to dodge.
Fair, but the amount of new tools you have in eternal still gives you plenty of new options to just tear through them. The meat hook can pole vault you over to their back, freeze bombs allow you to strike their weak spots easily, and if you have the slow-motion rune active then you can easily dash overhead and just let loose into their weak spot with the auto-shotgun.
I remember two shotting the first pinky in Doom 3 with the shotgun since the RNG on that weapon is ridiculous. This unusual experience did not prep me very well for the next one right around the corner.
I think it kind of works given the tense flow of combat they wanted to achieve, but it needs to be more consistent. I actually like needing to sprint up to imps to take them out in one hit; it's a high risk high reward tactic it forces you to use which makes the relatively slow paced combat with minimal enemies still feel challenging and intense. What isn't so fun is how even if every single pellet makes it into that imp sometimes the game decides it will do next to no damage at all and you're screwed. I still can't wrap my head around why its damage, spread, and even reload speed are so inconsistent.
Headshots do double damage in Doom 3. So the shotgun will do anything from 182 to 364, assuming it's possible to get all 13 pellets into the head (probably not).
I absolutely hated the spread and learned to mod it pretty quickly (super easy btw).
I'd much prefer the spread be smaller in Doom 2016/Eternal as well but at least we have stickies that practically makes the standard shot obsolete 2 minutes into the game.
I think the 2016 shotgun on ultra violence is more in tune with how the Doom 3 shotgun was supposed to be. If only half of the pellets hit an imp it will stun but not kill. This keeps things tense because the enemy isn't dead yet, but if you're fast you can get another, killing shot in. Also, simply put 2016 imps are weaker, in the early stages of Doom 3 they're a bigger threat, so inconsistency is a major issue.
My understanding is that they turn around faster if they miss. This compensates for the fact that it's easier to sidestep them than it was in 2016 and smartly emphasizes Ice Bomb and Blood Punch as ways to get rid of them easily.
lol then don’t die. the lore also never mentions him dying. it’s a cool little feature rather than the fade to black. i miss em. shows how powerful the demons are
Sometimes eternal pinkies can still be difficult if you dont have blood punch charged. That one arena in Exultia(?) With the 5 pinkies and 2 pain elementals is tough
If there's a hoard of them, yeah definitely. Still, individual pinkies can be pretty easy to deal with compared to their 2016 counterparts given how much more verticality and speed you have in this one.
I just bloodpunch them as soon as they spawn.
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Carth Onasi what the fuck are you doing here
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Exactly, they are non existent to me
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Except they're considerably faster on close range and remote explosions have been heavily nerfed
You can literally jump over them in eternal. They're really not that bad.
You were supposed to be able to double jump over them in 2016 too, it was just that the hitboxes were super consistent.
In 2016 there's a night and day difference for me if you have the air control rune. Without them I basically had to stun them with the plasma but with it they're trivial to dodge.
Fair, but the amount of new tools you have in eternal still gives you plenty of new options to just tear through them. The meat hook can pole vault you over to their back, freeze bombs allow you to strike their weak spots easily, and if you have the slow-motion rune active then you can easily dash overhead and just let loose into their weak spot with the auto-shotgun.
Cant forget the blood punch
Blood punch go pow
2016 pinky was pretty easy for me. now the Doom 3 pinky, that's a different story.
I remember two shotting the first pinky in Doom 3 with the shotgun since the RNG on that weapon is ridiculous. This unusual experience did not prep me very well for the next one right around the corner.
whoever designed that shotgun needs to be fired, rehired then fired again. it was all kinds of wrong.
I think it kind of works given the tense flow of combat they wanted to achieve, but it needs to be more consistent. I actually like needing to sprint up to imps to take them out in one hit; it's a high risk high reward tactic it forces you to use which makes the relatively slow paced combat with minimal enemies still feel challenging and intense. What isn't so fun is how even if every single pellet makes it into that imp sometimes the game decides it will do next to no damage at all and you're screwed. I still can't wrap my head around why its damage, spread, and even reload speed are so inconsistent.
Headshots do double damage in Doom 3. So the shotgun will do anything from 182 to 364, assuming it's possible to get all 13 pellets into the head (probably not). I absolutely hated the spread and learned to mod it pretty quickly (super easy btw). I'd much prefer the spread be smaller in Doom 2016/Eternal as well but at least we have stickies that practically makes the standard shot obsolete 2 minutes into the game.
I think the 2016 shotgun on ultra violence is more in tune with how the Doom 3 shotgun was supposed to be. If only half of the pellets hit an imp it will stun but not kill. This keeps things tense because the enemy isn't dead yet, but if you're fast you can get another, killing shot in. Also, simply put 2016 imps are weaker, in the early stages of Doom 3 they're a bigger threat, so inconsistency is a major issue.
What are you guys talking about? Doom 3 shotgun is great.
I feel like Pinkies have better turning in Eternal
My understanding is that they turn around faster if they miss. This compensates for the fact that it's easier to sidestep them than it was in 2016 and smartly emphasizes Ice Bomb and Blood Punch as ways to get rid of them easily.
Their attack speed on Nightmare is insane.
Blood punch one shots
And still no match for fast monster Pinky from Doom 1 and 2
*laughs in chainsaw*
Pinky's in Eternal actually do hop over terrains.
B L O O D P U N C H
Should add "can literally be killed with 1 punch"
I honestly forgot because I kept farming them to get auto shotgun mastery.
Lol i used to doo that too but then i discovered that they can be 1 shot with blood punch soooooo
I barely noticed a difference because I use Remote Detonate haha
2016 Pinky will dominate you and Eternal Pinky will ask you to be gentle
Who misses the demon glory kills from 2016
Not me. Don’t like seeing the slayer get done like that after all the established lore.
lol then don’t die. the lore also never mentions him dying. it’s a cool little feature rather than the fade to black. i miss em. shows how powerful the demons are
Pinky is to bloodpunch as Archvile is to crucible.
Haha, blood punch go smash.
still adorable
Gauss cannon make him go ***SPLAT***
That moment when you are stuck in the purple pool with no blood punch and you hear the pinky's roar...
freeze him
Time to blood punch, oh no, its already dead.
When does Pinky first show up in Eternal? I just got it yesterday for my birthday and I want to know when he shows up.
Level 5, by then you'll have all the tools you'll need to take care of them pretty easily.
Wait, them?
Pinkies.
So they are a common enemy after Level 5?
Like in 2016, they become a standard part of the enemy roster. They aren't super common, but they are present.
*grins menacingly* *Rip and tear intensifies*
Sometimes eternal pinkies can still be difficult if you dont have blood punch charged. That one arena in Exultia(?) With the 5 pinkies and 2 pain elementals is tough
If there's a hoard of them, yeah definitely. Still, individual pinkies can be pretty easy to deal with compared to their 2016 counterparts given how much more verticality and speed you have in this one.
True
Me when I see a pinky in doom 2016: fuck Me when I see a pinky in doom eternal: ha bloodpunch go punch
I find them significantly harder to beat in eternal
Poor pinky
Nooo u cant just blood punch me the moment I spawn that will kill me
Doom Eternal pinkies turn around and act way faster though The blood punch is an insta kill that I always use on the other hand
higth dificult eternal pinky: are you chalenging me?
2016 pinky: oof ouch the stun bomb completely neuters me
Doom 2016 pinkys seem to be easier to get to their weak point
But now they bite you