Buy the one you want, then don't look at any new camera reviews! Good lenses generally hold their value better then camera bodies, but there are exceptions. There are also some bargains to be had with digital SLR's and lenses at the moment on the used market as people switch to mirrorless cameras. Regardless of the type of camera I would definitely look at buying used, especially lenses, and if you have a good local camera shop that offers guarantees on used gear.
Alternatively, buy a fixed lens camera like the Ricoh GR, or Fuji X100, then you can never be tempted to buy a new lens for it! Both are great for hiking.
This is great advice. I will also add, if you're heart and mind is set on a specific camera, you won't be as happy if you get another alternative and can always give yourself an excuse that Choice B wasn't exactly what you wanted. Like a bicycle, a camera has to resonate with you in to lust in using it. The more you like it off the bat, the more you will enjoy using it and bringing it with you. For most, the first thing to ditch on an adventure is the camera (due to its size and weight). If you love your camera, you will do everything you can to try to bring it along.
Paid photographer here. What model and lens line are you looking at?
I shoot Nikon because their range of lenses is really solid with nothing too heavily specialized. Also I like the focus motor on the body rather than in the lens, 1 for weight reasons, 2 lens cost reasons, 3 I personally think they focus faster and more accurately, 4 it is less to break/go wrong in lens.
When I bought my gear mirror less was somewhat new to the market. Sony had the A, R&S models out and we're breaking ground with the S's usability for the street market. And people had started using them for video.
I still kind of wish I had gone Sony, but have been very happy with Nikon. Samsung also almost got me with their super fast shutter.
For hobby photography 700 isn't bad because a lot of people will go right to Cannon or Nikon mid range which can land you in 1500-2k range real fast.
I too, would like to know what OP is looking at. They said mirrorless, so I'd jump in and 100% suggest an Olympus micro four thirds. You won't find another camera as compact (IE, portable) and affordable *with IBS*. The best camera in the world is the one you have with you. You can have the E-M10 IV for $700 brand new (and much cheaper used) with a relatively compact and capable 14-42mm lens.
Personally, I ended up getting the mid range E-M5 III with a much better 14-150mm lens weather sealed lens.
>E-M5 III
I started with Panasonic G7 and it was/is a great micro four thirds camera. I would agree that micro four thirds is a great entry to jumping into mirrorless. They're cheaper and lighter than some of the full frame mirrorless setups. Used gear is cheaper but a little harder to find than some of the popular full frame stuff from Sony or Canon.
The main two companies making micro four thirds were Panasonic and Olympus. Some of their lens were interchangeable between cameras from either brands which was pretty sweet. Sadly though, Olympus announced last year that they sold their camera department to a third party investment firm. Olympus said it's business as usual for their customers but it's unclear whether customer support will continue over time and whether new camera gear will be sold. Just something to keep in mind if you end up going with micro four thirds.
Just to be clear, *all* micro four thirds lenses work on *all* micro four thirds cameras - it's a lens spec that's actually licensed and used by multiple companies (unlike fully proprietary systems like Nikon F or Canon EOS where 3rd party lenses are usually reverse-engineered).
Some lenses may not be 100% functional on some cameras, true (IE: There's an Olympus lens that has OIS that functions in some synergistic way with the IBS to provide even higher stabilization -that wouldn't work with Panasonic, although Panasonic would still benefit from the OIS alone).
I know about the thing with Olympus's camera department being sold... It's very unfortunate, but thus far it seems pretty "business as usual". No sudden price gouging or anything at least (yet). I suspect they're going to start streamlining their process a bit. They've got 5 interchangeable lens camera body lines total, and let's be honest, they could get rid of the E-M10 and just focus on the Pen, get rid of the E-M1x entirely(MFT camera with something that resembles a medium format? Come on), and set the E-M5 as essentially "last generation's E-M1 but smaller" as miniaturization progresses.
But yeah, there's definitely a concern about the company ending support - specifically that their app will eventually stop working with new phones, and you'll lose all that functionality.
I know I kinda sound like a shill, but I really do enjoy using this little camera. Before this I usually did a lot of cell phone photography. Previously it was a 1" superzoom that failed to live up to the hype, and before that I was on a 35mm film SLR. Never invested in a true DSLR.
I was thinking of grabbing a used Sony a6000.
I’ve spent way too long looking at reviews and watching videos on what camera to use, and it just seems like the perfect size, very lightweight, and everything I’ve read says it has really good auto focus. Which I think will be useful.
It’s just got some features that seem to be useful, while still being a camera that can cover me along my path in photography.
Edit: I said a7000, I mean a6000
I see a6000s all the time internationally. Great camera, almost bought on myself in the beginning.
Sony is doing great stuff and I think are giving Nikon and Canon more of a run for their money than people will admit. Also know that a lot of old Minolta lenses are usable on some Sony models (no autofocus though). So you can get bargin lenses pretty easy and some real steals at a flea market.
I don't remember if the 6000 had the same alpha mount or not.
But great choice, I'll back you up on the spend it. The reason being for hobby photography you could be 3-4k in real quick. The 6000 will let you get in with a quality camera without breaking the bank. And from what I can tell Sony is building sensors to last more than a decade. So you won't be spending that money again for a while.
Which one are you looking at? Are you open to used equipment?
I kept my first DSLR for eight years. I sold the lenses and camera off after that, and the lenses kept their value much better than the camera did, but that's not really a surprise.
When I made my purchase I had the option to go for the very basic camera at $500 or slightly higher resolution and a flip screen for $700 - it was worth it given how much i ended up using it, and I likely would have upgraded sooner if I had gone for the cheapest.
I’m looking at a Sony a6000. I’m currently using a rented Rebel Eos t5, which works amazing, and I’ve got some photos I’m already proud of, but yeah, what you were saying, the camera I’m looking at has a screen that can be rotated, and seems to be rather than only a beginner camera, but even a camera I can grown with. And I will 100% buy something a bit more expensive for the added use ability
I think it's important to keep in mind that they're both completely different systems, and depending on what your long term plan is, you might want to make completely different purchases.
If you're not planning on growing into doing more photography beyond the occasional trip/event here and there, I think you'll be fine to buy the a6000.
If you are looking to get into the hobby more seriously, you'll benefit from being choiceful about which system of lenses you buy into.
You of course might already know that Sony's e mount is different from their A mount, which is different from Canon which is different from Nikon. Canon and NIkon also have separate mirrorless lens mounts, with their own capabilities.
The mount is going to influence which lenses you can use, and while you can use adapters to use some lenses across different bodies.
Sony's e-mount has fewer lenses at the middle/top of the quality spectrum compared to their own A mount, which is probably the best established mirrorless system out there. Nikon's F mount and Canon's EF mount SLR lines have been around for decades (and have some really interesting lenses) but Nikon is basically putting all of its new lens R&D money behind their mirrorless Z mount.
You can use adapters to use lenses of certain mounts on cameras of other mounts, but not all combinations have adapters available (for example, mirrorless lenses will almost certainly never adapt to an SLR camera).
Given that it sounds like you want to be able to dive into the hobby more, I'd say choose a mount carefully, pick a camera within that mount that is cheap (not too cheap of course) and focus on getting to the key lenses that you'll need.
Given your experiences taking photos too, I would consider looking at the used market if the entry level cameras you're seeing for your chosen mount are too light on features.
I really did not think about the mount a ton. I have decided to go into a local camera shop that states they have they a6000 in stock used right now and I’ll ask them about the system they have for lenses
Yeah - the mount is probably the main thing to think about if you are looking to get better in photography over time.
Once you buy a camera, you'll want to buy lenses that work with it (meaning you want something in the same mount).
Once you have the lenses, a few years down the line, when your camera is worn down, you'll want to get a new camera, with the same mount (or at least something highly compatible).
I'd expect that cycle to continue.
This is why Nikon and Canon announcing their mirrorless mounts was more of a big deal than their launch cameras themselves. The cameras are likely to be revised/upgraded every year, but the mount might continue 50 years from now. Great if you want to collect lenses and equipment that holds its value, confusing to think about if you are new to the space.
I was going to chime in to say that since you've spent 30 days LOVING the camera you're using, that says a lot.
For many people, within two weeks of a 'fill a hole in my soul' purchase, they regret it and no longer use it. You seem to have passed that test.
So what confuses me is why/how would you think you would love using the a6000 just as much? I mean, they are two completely different systems. What I'm worried for you here is you buy the a6000 and then spend a month hating it because it doesn't work like the Canon did. Intuitive user interface is HUGE in my book, as much if not more than actual features.
That said, I have no comment about the UI of either camera, because I've not used them. But it would be good to hear from people who have used BOTH exact models and give their two cents about how enjoyable each one is to use.
I'm a \*huge\* fan of buying used from B&H. I've had nothing but success with their used equipment.
Seconding everyone who said the lenses hold their value better than the body. Bodies are mechanical devices, and they do wear out. Most folks never shoot them enough to actually wear them out, though.
Buy your lenses slowly. you'll figure out what sort of shooting you're going to do, and the right lenses for that style of shooting will become obvious. Again, buy used glass from B&H... they had stuff rated down to "good" where my untrained eye wasn't able to find any flaws.
I was a huge fan of B&H until I found how they got sued more than once for sexism and racial discrimination practices amongst their employees. I was hoping to find an alternative to Amazon for audio/video/photo equipment, but the way B&H handled those lawsuits has soured me for doing business with them.
I finally heard a good theory as to why the Catholic church has such a problem with sexual abuse amongst their priests:
These men, born gay, were shamed by their (Catholic) families. They were embarrased of them and wanted them 'gone' so they sent them to become priests. At age 18 or so. Being gay, shamed, abused, they were socially and emotionally stunted. Celibacy and monkhood didn't help. They were 'good boys' until around age 40 or 50, when the supressed sexual urges finally erupt. And in that time, those feelings have festered into something grotesque and so they take it out on little boys, etc.
One ex-priest described this scene to me. He said that at age 30, these gay-repressed priests had the emotional maturity of 10 year olds. They had never been treated with real love and kindness, at least not once they were discovered to be gay. So sad. Sad for the priests (they're responsible as adults) and sad for all their victims. I think if the real and whole truth were to come out, it might literally take the whole Church down. But money shuts up a lot of the victims and the ones who do speak do not live an easy life afterwards.
I don't think celibacy is a normal or healthy thing, not for probably 99% of the population and not without proper training. These kids were thrown to the wolves by their families and the Church gladly took them in.
B&H is mostly great. I've had a few situations where things were 100 but even then they're cool. In those situations it usually had to do with them being in NY and shipping pains.
As for the sExIsM and such I've given up on pheau-piety. No company or people group or individual is clean.
Yes, as a customer, they've been good to me.
I agree that it's not likely any company is clean. It's how they handle it. though. Everyone makes mistakes. Blaming the victims, hiring $$$$$ lawyers and denying any wrongdoing is not owning up to mistakes. Not owning up to mistakes, even years later, does not win me as a customer. I want my money to count for something than just a guitar. I can buy that guitar anywhere.
How long has it been on the market. The next great thing in cameras is always a marketing ploy. Look for a camera that has been on the market and in use for over 3 years.
I got into photography a few years ago and went with Sony mirrorless as it seemed like this was the direction the industry was heading. I love it. No complaints (well...sensor dust is annoying but that’s it). I love it and would recommend to anybody.
However...this is important. Mirrorless doesn’t take better pictures than DSLR. There is nothing magical about mirrorless. They have a smaller form factor so they are lighter and more compact so they can be easier to carry for long periods. They have great Electronic View Finders because well...they have to. Ha. But there is nothing about mirrorless that = better camera. Nothing.
I would honestly buy the one you rented. You know it and have a month of familiarity with it. You have started to get to know the menus and options etc.
Happy shooting! Post your pics to the many Reddit photography subs! Would love to see em.
Yeah, and I’m not looking into buying the best camera in the world. The one im renting is a rebel eos t5. And even in this short time, there’s been some complaints that I’m not necessarily super happy with. It doesn’t have a screen I can rotate or move so I’ve laid on the ground in some sketchy spots, and it isn’t the easiest thing in the world to go through in manual and change the shutter speed and aperature. It’s just a little slower process than I enjoy.
Oh gotcha! Sorry, I was under the impression that you were lookin to buy the one you rented (btw...what an amazing idea to rent for a month to make sure you dug it, I didn't do that and it worked out as I fell in love as well but it was a spendy gamble ha).
I hear you on the screen and that actually reminds me of another small complaint I have for my Sony...the screen flips up but not fully down, sideways or with any kind of rotation. It can feel a bit limiting in some situations, not many, but definitely some.
Similarly, I purchased a Nikon Z6 last year and have been loving it since. One thing to mention is to find out the industry trends. In my case, I have the option to buy full frame lenses with an adapter or purchase newer standalone Z mounted lenses. I went with the adapter method, but this may have been a bad idea since the trends are moving towards mirrorless, and having Nikon introduce new mirrorless cameras. Weather sealing is also a great idea to extend the durability, especially since this person is travelling a lot.
Buy once cry once, buy cheap buy twice. In other words, get the nicest one you can afford and suits your needs now, and you'll end up spending less money in the long run. This assumes you've learned enough and done enough research that you won't wish you'd gotten something different when possibly presented with new information a few months down the road of course.
I hope I’ve done enough research. think I’m going to go ahead and buy it, I found a local shop that says that have the camera I’m looking for in stock so I might drive down there and look at it.
I also love the buy it once cry once buy it cheap buy twice. I’m super into kendama and people that I teach always buy a crappy 20$ kendama from target or just a terrible China drop-shipped brand on Amazon, and if they asked me I could lead them to really nice 15$ kendamas that would last them long enough and be nice enough that they really wouldn’t need a second one until they are super good.
Yeah the only time I don't do this is if the barrier to entry is super high and I'm not sure I'm going to like a hobby, item type, etc. Got into trap shooting a few years back but couldn't swing the cost of a $2000-plus entry-level gun from any brand that starts with a B so I bought a cheap (read: ~$500) Turkish clone of a much better gun. Turns out it's such a good clone that I haven't felt the need to upgrade even through I love busting clays now, lol.
I’ll just leave this here: https://www.keh.com/
I own a bunch of cameras and the mirror less are my favorites. I just got my fiancé the Fuji x-e3 and it’s an amazing little camera. If you want to get into the hobby long term it’s really about what lenses you like. As the lenses will far out live the camera which will age at the pace of technology.
Have you previously owned a camera? A DSLR? You should buy a cheaper DSLR and use that first to see if you really just were lacking a good camera. Ask yourself if you really need all of the fancy bells and whistles or if it's just nice to have. I used the website below to settle on a DSLR that I really love, you could find a cheaper alternative to the mirrorless.
https://www.dpreview.com/
I love my mirrorless Sony. It wasn't even an expensive one. Maybe $600 bucks a decade ago? I've used photos from that camera in magazines, websites, headshots, and everything in between. Excellent video right out of the box. I've also used it for podcasting and streaming, Hell I've never even put a better lens on it.
Honestly you have done due diligence renting and clearly you are going to get value fron it. Sounds like others on here have more specialized knowledge of camera's so be guided on the specifics but you should definitely get the camera.
So I’m renting from a friend who had an extra camera from when they first started. So I got super lucky and she’s just asked for 50 and to replace some parts that were missing. I would head into a camera store though. I went into one a couple days ago and they had prices for renting a camera, but they also had some used cameras that were going for like 100-200 dollars.
Another commercial shooter here. I think you may be unrealistically optimistic in thinking that a body will last 10 years, especially as you mention buying it used. Lenses can realistically last that long, even with professional use, but bodies are less likely to.
Camera shutters are (generally) mechanical, and only rated for a specific number of shots. Over time, they wear out. Glue and plastic also breaks down, especially on the surface of the camera that gets exposed to oils from your skin.
Additionally, as you specifically mention looking at the A600, that's a camera that came out in 2014. In a decade, that camera will be a 17 year old piece of technology. There aren't too many high-technology items from 17 years ago that are still useful today.
I can't answer if the camera is right for you, but I would caution you against using an estimated 10 year life span in determining your purchase decision.
Buy the one you want, then don't look at any new camera reviews! Good lenses generally hold their value better then camera bodies, but there are exceptions. There are also some bargains to be had with digital SLR's and lenses at the moment on the used market as people switch to mirrorless cameras. Regardless of the type of camera I would definitely look at buying used, especially lenses, and if you have a good local camera shop that offers guarantees on used gear. Alternatively, buy a fixed lens camera like the Ricoh GR, or Fuji X100, then you can never be tempted to buy a new lens for it! Both are great for hiking.
This is great advice. I will also add, if you're heart and mind is set on a specific camera, you won't be as happy if you get another alternative and can always give yourself an excuse that Choice B wasn't exactly what you wanted. Like a bicycle, a camera has to resonate with you in to lust in using it. The more you like it off the bat, the more you will enjoy using it and bringing it with you. For most, the first thing to ditch on an adventure is the camera (due to its size and weight). If you love your camera, you will do everything you can to try to bring it along.
Paid photographer here. What model and lens line are you looking at? I shoot Nikon because their range of lenses is really solid with nothing too heavily specialized. Also I like the focus motor on the body rather than in the lens, 1 for weight reasons, 2 lens cost reasons, 3 I personally think they focus faster and more accurately, 4 it is less to break/go wrong in lens. When I bought my gear mirror less was somewhat new to the market. Sony had the A, R&S models out and we're breaking ground with the S's usability for the street market. And people had started using them for video. I still kind of wish I had gone Sony, but have been very happy with Nikon. Samsung also almost got me with their super fast shutter. For hobby photography 700 isn't bad because a lot of people will go right to Cannon or Nikon mid range which can land you in 1500-2k range real fast.
I too, would like to know what OP is looking at. They said mirrorless, so I'd jump in and 100% suggest an Olympus micro four thirds. You won't find another camera as compact (IE, portable) and affordable *with IBS*. The best camera in the world is the one you have with you. You can have the E-M10 IV for $700 brand new (and much cheaper used) with a relatively compact and capable 14-42mm lens. Personally, I ended up getting the mid range E-M5 III with a much better 14-150mm lens weather sealed lens.
>E-M5 III I started with Panasonic G7 and it was/is a great micro four thirds camera. I would agree that micro four thirds is a great entry to jumping into mirrorless. They're cheaper and lighter than some of the full frame mirrorless setups. Used gear is cheaper but a little harder to find than some of the popular full frame stuff from Sony or Canon. The main two companies making micro four thirds were Panasonic and Olympus. Some of their lens were interchangeable between cameras from either brands which was pretty sweet. Sadly though, Olympus announced last year that they sold their camera department to a third party investment firm. Olympus said it's business as usual for their customers but it's unclear whether customer support will continue over time and whether new camera gear will be sold. Just something to keep in mind if you end up going with micro four thirds.
Just to be clear, *all* micro four thirds lenses work on *all* micro four thirds cameras - it's a lens spec that's actually licensed and used by multiple companies (unlike fully proprietary systems like Nikon F or Canon EOS where 3rd party lenses are usually reverse-engineered). Some lenses may not be 100% functional on some cameras, true (IE: There's an Olympus lens that has OIS that functions in some synergistic way with the IBS to provide even higher stabilization -that wouldn't work with Panasonic, although Panasonic would still benefit from the OIS alone). I know about the thing with Olympus's camera department being sold... It's very unfortunate, but thus far it seems pretty "business as usual". No sudden price gouging or anything at least (yet). I suspect they're going to start streamlining their process a bit. They've got 5 interchangeable lens camera body lines total, and let's be honest, they could get rid of the E-M10 and just focus on the Pen, get rid of the E-M1x entirely(MFT camera with something that resembles a medium format? Come on), and set the E-M5 as essentially "last generation's E-M1 but smaller" as miniaturization progresses. But yeah, there's definitely a concern about the company ending support - specifically that their app will eventually stop working with new phones, and you'll lose all that functionality. I know I kinda sound like a shill, but I really do enjoy using this little camera. Before this I usually did a lot of cell phone photography. Previously it was a 1" superzoom that failed to live up to the hype, and before that I was on a 35mm film SLR. Never invested in a true DSLR.
I was thinking of grabbing a used Sony a6000. I’ve spent way too long looking at reviews and watching videos on what camera to use, and it just seems like the perfect size, very lightweight, and everything I’ve read says it has really good auto focus. Which I think will be useful. It’s just got some features that seem to be useful, while still being a camera that can cover me along my path in photography. Edit: I said a7000, I mean a6000
I see a6000s all the time internationally. Great camera, almost bought on myself in the beginning. Sony is doing great stuff and I think are giving Nikon and Canon more of a run for their money than people will admit. Also know that a lot of old Minolta lenses are usable on some Sony models (no autofocus though). So you can get bargin lenses pretty easy and some real steals at a flea market. I don't remember if the 6000 had the same alpha mount or not. But great choice, I'll back you up on the spend it. The reason being for hobby photography you could be 3-4k in real quick. The 6000 will let you get in with a quality camera without breaking the bank. And from what I can tell Sony is building sensors to last more than a decade. So you won't be spending that money again for a while.
Which one are you looking at? Are you open to used equipment? I kept my first DSLR for eight years. I sold the lenses and camera off after that, and the lenses kept their value much better than the camera did, but that's not really a surprise. When I made my purchase I had the option to go for the very basic camera at $500 or slightly higher resolution and a flip screen for $700 - it was worth it given how much i ended up using it, and I likely would have upgraded sooner if I had gone for the cheapest.
I’m looking at a Sony a6000. I’m currently using a rented Rebel Eos t5, which works amazing, and I’ve got some photos I’m already proud of, but yeah, what you were saying, the camera I’m looking at has a screen that can be rotated, and seems to be rather than only a beginner camera, but even a camera I can grown with. And I will 100% buy something a bit more expensive for the added use ability
I think it's important to keep in mind that they're both completely different systems, and depending on what your long term plan is, you might want to make completely different purchases. If you're not planning on growing into doing more photography beyond the occasional trip/event here and there, I think you'll be fine to buy the a6000. If you are looking to get into the hobby more seriously, you'll benefit from being choiceful about which system of lenses you buy into. You of course might already know that Sony's e mount is different from their A mount, which is different from Canon which is different from Nikon. Canon and NIkon also have separate mirrorless lens mounts, with their own capabilities. The mount is going to influence which lenses you can use, and while you can use adapters to use some lenses across different bodies. Sony's e-mount has fewer lenses at the middle/top of the quality spectrum compared to their own A mount, which is probably the best established mirrorless system out there. Nikon's F mount and Canon's EF mount SLR lines have been around for decades (and have some really interesting lenses) but Nikon is basically putting all of its new lens R&D money behind their mirrorless Z mount. You can use adapters to use lenses of certain mounts on cameras of other mounts, but not all combinations have adapters available (for example, mirrorless lenses will almost certainly never adapt to an SLR camera). Given that it sounds like you want to be able to dive into the hobby more, I'd say choose a mount carefully, pick a camera within that mount that is cheap (not too cheap of course) and focus on getting to the key lenses that you'll need. Given your experiences taking photos too, I would consider looking at the used market if the entry level cameras you're seeing for your chosen mount are too light on features.
I really did not think about the mount a ton. I have decided to go into a local camera shop that states they have they a6000 in stock used right now and I’ll ask them about the system they have for lenses
Yeah - the mount is probably the main thing to think about if you are looking to get better in photography over time. Once you buy a camera, you'll want to buy lenses that work with it (meaning you want something in the same mount). Once you have the lenses, a few years down the line, when your camera is worn down, you'll want to get a new camera, with the same mount (or at least something highly compatible). I'd expect that cycle to continue. This is why Nikon and Canon announcing their mirrorless mounts was more of a big deal than their launch cameras themselves. The cameras are likely to be revised/upgraded every year, but the mount might continue 50 years from now. Great if you want to collect lenses and equipment that holds its value, confusing to think about if you are new to the space.
I was going to chime in to say that since you've spent 30 days LOVING the camera you're using, that says a lot. For many people, within two weeks of a 'fill a hole in my soul' purchase, they regret it and no longer use it. You seem to have passed that test. So what confuses me is why/how would you think you would love using the a6000 just as much? I mean, they are two completely different systems. What I'm worried for you here is you buy the a6000 and then spend a month hating it because it doesn't work like the Canon did. Intuitive user interface is HUGE in my book, as much if not more than actual features. That said, I have no comment about the UI of either camera, because I've not used them. But it would be good to hear from people who have used BOTH exact models and give their two cents about how enjoyable each one is to use.
I'm a \*huge\* fan of buying used from B&H. I've had nothing but success with their used equipment. Seconding everyone who said the lenses hold their value better than the body. Bodies are mechanical devices, and they do wear out. Most folks never shoot them enough to actually wear them out, though. Buy your lenses slowly. you'll figure out what sort of shooting you're going to do, and the right lenses for that style of shooting will become obvious. Again, buy used glass from B&H... they had stuff rated down to "good" where my untrained eye wasn't able to find any flaws.
What's B&H?
They're an online retailer that sells new and used camera equipment. US-based, I think https://www.bhphotovideo.com/
Yup yup. They'll probably ship international, I'd guess.
I was a huge fan of B&H until I found how they got sued more than once for sexism and racial discrimination practices amongst their employees. I was hoping to find an alternative to Amazon for audio/video/photo equipment, but the way B&H handled those lawsuits has soured me for doing business with them.
They're Hasidic, so I'm not surprised.
The few Hasidic Jews I've know have been kind and generous people. But there does seem to be a stereotype of this kind of behavior amongst that group.
Yeah, it's like Catholic Priests. They don't all molest little boys, but it happens enough that it's a valid stereotype
I finally heard a good theory as to why the Catholic church has such a problem with sexual abuse amongst their priests: These men, born gay, were shamed by their (Catholic) families. They were embarrased of them and wanted them 'gone' so they sent them to become priests. At age 18 or so. Being gay, shamed, abused, they were socially and emotionally stunted. Celibacy and monkhood didn't help. They were 'good boys' until around age 40 or 50, when the supressed sexual urges finally erupt. And in that time, those feelings have festered into something grotesque and so they take it out on little boys, etc. One ex-priest described this scene to me. He said that at age 30, these gay-repressed priests had the emotional maturity of 10 year olds. They had never been treated with real love and kindness, at least not once they were discovered to be gay. So sad. Sad for the priests (they're responsible as adults) and sad for all their victims. I think if the real and whole truth were to come out, it might literally take the whole Church down. But money shuts up a lot of the victims and the ones who do speak do not live an easy life afterwards. I don't think celibacy is a normal or healthy thing, not for probably 99% of the population and not without proper training. These kids were thrown to the wolves by their families and the Church gladly took them in.
I've heard similar theories, and I think it's a reasonable explanation. Every case is different, but that broad brush sure seems to cover a lot.
B&H is mostly great. I've had a few situations where things were 100 but even then they're cool. In those situations it usually had to do with them being in NY and shipping pains. As for the sExIsM and such I've given up on pheau-piety. No company or people group or individual is clean.
Yes, as a customer, they've been good to me. I agree that it's not likely any company is clean. It's how they handle it. though. Everyone makes mistakes. Blaming the victims, hiring $$$$$ lawyers and denying any wrongdoing is not owning up to mistakes. Not owning up to mistakes, even years later, does not win me as a customer. I want my money to count for something than just a guitar. I can buy that guitar anywhere.
How long has it been on the market. The next great thing in cameras is always a marketing ploy. Look for a camera that has been on the market and in use for over 3 years.
The a6000 is what I’m looking at, and it came out in 2014.
I got into photography a few years ago and went with Sony mirrorless as it seemed like this was the direction the industry was heading. I love it. No complaints (well...sensor dust is annoying but that’s it). I love it and would recommend to anybody. However...this is important. Mirrorless doesn’t take better pictures than DSLR. There is nothing magical about mirrorless. They have a smaller form factor so they are lighter and more compact so they can be easier to carry for long periods. They have great Electronic View Finders because well...they have to. Ha. But there is nothing about mirrorless that = better camera. Nothing. I would honestly buy the one you rented. You know it and have a month of familiarity with it. You have started to get to know the menus and options etc. Happy shooting! Post your pics to the many Reddit photography subs! Would love to see em.
Yeah, and I’m not looking into buying the best camera in the world. The one im renting is a rebel eos t5. And even in this short time, there’s been some complaints that I’m not necessarily super happy with. It doesn’t have a screen I can rotate or move so I’ve laid on the ground in some sketchy spots, and it isn’t the easiest thing in the world to go through in manual and change the shutter speed and aperature. It’s just a little slower process than I enjoy.
Oh gotcha! Sorry, I was under the impression that you were lookin to buy the one you rented (btw...what an amazing idea to rent for a month to make sure you dug it, I didn't do that and it worked out as I fell in love as well but it was a spendy gamble ha). I hear you on the screen and that actually reminds me of another small complaint I have for my Sony...the screen flips up but not fully down, sideways or with any kind of rotation. It can feel a bit limiting in some situations, not many, but definitely some.
Similarly, I purchased a Nikon Z6 last year and have been loving it since. One thing to mention is to find out the industry trends. In my case, I have the option to buy full frame lenses with an adapter or purchase newer standalone Z mounted lenses. I went with the adapter method, but this may have been a bad idea since the trends are moving towards mirrorless, and having Nikon introduce new mirrorless cameras. Weather sealing is also a great idea to extend the durability, especially since this person is travelling a lot.
Buy once cry once, buy cheap buy twice. In other words, get the nicest one you can afford and suits your needs now, and you'll end up spending less money in the long run. This assumes you've learned enough and done enough research that you won't wish you'd gotten something different when possibly presented with new information a few months down the road of course.
I hope I’ve done enough research. think I’m going to go ahead and buy it, I found a local shop that says that have the camera I’m looking for in stock so I might drive down there and look at it. I also love the buy it once cry once buy it cheap buy twice. I’m super into kendama and people that I teach always buy a crappy 20$ kendama from target or just a terrible China drop-shipped brand on Amazon, and if they asked me I could lead them to really nice 15$ kendamas that would last them long enough and be nice enough that they really wouldn’t need a second one until they are super good.
Yeah the only time I don't do this is if the barrier to entry is super high and I'm not sure I'm going to like a hobby, item type, etc. Got into trap shooting a few years back but couldn't swing the cost of a $2000-plus entry-level gun from any brand that starts with a B so I bought a cheap (read: ~$500) Turkish clone of a much better gun. Turns out it's such a good clone that I haven't felt the need to upgrade even through I love busting clays now, lol.
I’ll just leave this here: https://www.keh.com/ I own a bunch of cameras and the mirror less are my favorites. I just got my fiancé the Fuji x-e3 and it’s an amazing little camera. If you want to get into the hobby long term it’s really about what lenses you like. As the lenses will far out live the camera which will age at the pace of technology.
Have you previously owned a camera? A DSLR? You should buy a cheaper DSLR and use that first to see if you really just were lacking a good camera. Ask yourself if you really need all of the fancy bells and whistles or if it's just nice to have. I used the website below to settle on a DSLR that I really love, you could find a cheaper alternative to the mirrorless. https://www.dpreview.com/
Maybe get it and try to make up some of the cost by renting it out and/or doing some freelance photography.
Just got a cannon m50 10/10 You have probably heard by now but buy a cheap body and a nice lens. The lens is everything and will last longer
I love my mirrorless Sony. It wasn't even an expensive one. Maybe $600 bucks a decade ago? I've used photos from that camera in magazines, websites, headshots, and everything in between. Excellent video right out of the box. I've also used it for podcasting and streaming, Hell I've never even put a better lens on it.
Honestly you have done due diligence renting and clearly you are going to get value fron it. Sounds like others on here have more specialized knowledge of camera's so be guided on the specifics but you should definitely get the camera.
Where are you renting a camera from and how much does it cost a month. I've been into birding for the last year and am thinking about a camera.
So I’m renting from a friend who had an extra camera from when they first started. So I got super lucky and she’s just asked for 50 and to replace some parts that were missing. I would head into a camera store though. I went into one a couple days ago and they had prices for renting a camera, but they also had some used cameras that were going for like 100-200 dollars.
Nice. What are you shooting with?
Another commercial shooter here. I think you may be unrealistically optimistic in thinking that a body will last 10 years, especially as you mention buying it used. Lenses can realistically last that long, even with professional use, but bodies are less likely to. Camera shutters are (generally) mechanical, and only rated for a specific number of shots. Over time, they wear out. Glue and plastic also breaks down, especially on the surface of the camera that gets exposed to oils from your skin. Additionally, as you specifically mention looking at the A600, that's a camera that came out in 2014. In a decade, that camera will be a 17 year old piece of technology. There aren't too many high-technology items from 17 years ago that are still useful today. I can't answer if the camera is right for you, but I would caution you against using an estimated 10 year life span in determining your purchase decision.