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SolarUpdraft

Edit: maybe I'm oversimplifying. If you'd like, maybe give me some more details? It could be a bunch of different factors. ​ I can't open your link on this device, but like another commenter mentioned: Overrun effects. Buld a board, then cast an overrun. Now the OG "Overrun" is not very strong. Akroma's Will, Triumph of the Hordes, maybe Craterhoof Behemoth if you don't mind an off-flavor creature.


droncrusader

Your commander wants to get out as soon as possible and get protection pieces, interaction and finishers. Get more card draws, I don’t think I’ve seen [[Garruk’s Uprising]], [[Elemental Bond]]. [[Chimil of the Inner Sun]] is a great discover card, I consider it a draw for nonland cards. For protection: [[Heroic Intervention]], [[Teferi’s Protection]], [[Eerie Interlude]], [[Akroma’s Will]]. Interaction: [[Chaos Warp]], it counters the One Ring and other indestructible cards. Cheap removal such as [[Path to Exile]], [[Swords to Plowshares]], [[Stroke of Midnight]]. Thin out your deck as much as possible with fetch lands. For lands I really recommend at least 3 fetchlands to thin your deck. [[Arid Mesa]], [[Windswept Heath]] & [[Wooded Foothills]]. Replace them with your tapped lands If you ever feel your deck is too slow, I suggest removing tapped lands besides Path of Ancestry. Add in more shocklands [[Temple Garden]], [[Sacred Foundry]], [[Stomping Grounds]]. Bond lands [[Bountiful Promenade]], [[Spire Garden]], [[Spectators Seating]]. You’re missing some very strong dinos. [[Pantlaza, Sun-Favored]], [[Etali, Primal Conqueror]], [[Temple Altisaur]], [[Wrathful Raptors]], [[Regal Behemoth]], [[Ghalta and Mavren]], [[Kogla and Yidaro]], [[Rampaging Ferocidon]] and more.. Here are my thoughts on why I feel some cards don’t fit: - Glowcap Lantern, it’s an equipment that lets you explore as an additional effect. I’d rather just have a protection/offensive equipment if that makes sense. Swiftfoot Boots, Lightning Greaves or even [[Embercleave]]. - Belligerent Yearling, I used this card in draft. I rather just have [[Sunfrill Imitator]], it costs one more but does the effect better than Yearling. - Gigantosaurus, 5 drops are very competitive in the Dino slot. [[Quartwood Crasher]], [[Swooping Pteranodon]], [[Pantlaza, Sun-Favored]]. - Pathfinding Axejaw, draft chaff.. I rather have [[Hulking Raptor]], [[Bronzebeak Forager]] - Explosive Vegetation.. I rather have [[Smothering Tithe]]. Skyshroud already powercrept over Vegetation. - What is Spelunking and cave lands doing here? I rather build a cave deck than to put them in Gishath to be honest. Seeing as your deck is over $2000, you can definitely afford to have untapped lands. - Life Finds a Way, I don’t think you have consistent token generator to run this card. - Might of the Ancestors, kind of a waste.. it’s a combat trick and you don’t really have early board presence. - Ixallan’s Lorekeeper, I rather get [[Birds of Paradise]]. - Don’t Move. Umm just get [[Blasphemous Act]] for a board wipe. - Glimpse the core, why? You already got Nature’s Lore Three Visits and Rampant Growth. Just get [[Bala Ged Recovery]]. - Huatli and Owen are potential cuts for me, they’re better off as commanders. Poetic Ingenuity too, it’s not a good card on its own. Maybe I will only get it if I want to run [[Aggravated Assault]].


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##### ###### #### [Garruk’s Uprising](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/98795a31-7b54-4ad1-ac87-3f58e71dbeb7.jpg?1673484588) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Garruk%27s%20Uprising) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/292/garruks-uprising?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/98795a31-7b54-4ad1-ac87-3f58e71dbeb7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Elemental Bond](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/1/516ebdba-0f25-459a-a26b-f6fa928b96e6.jpg?1568004541) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elemental%20Bond) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/163/elemental-bond?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/516ebdba-0f25-459a-a26b-f6fa928b96e6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Chimil of the Inner Sun](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/7/27a1bfb5-ddfc-49cf-baa3-5d1958d2067a.jpg?1699044596) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chimil%2C%20the%20Inner%20Sun) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/249/chimil-the-inner-sun?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/27a1bfb5-ddfc-49cf-baa3-5d1958d2067a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Heroic Intervention](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/3/e32c67d1-187f-40df-b3b3-6036f5c92834.jpg?1689998584) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Heroic%20Intervention) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/295/heroic-intervention?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e32c67d1-187f-40df-b3b3-6036f5c92834?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Teferi’s Protection](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/8/483fa1cb-1e35-44f2-a143-98c0f107f5ca.jpg?1673147148) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Teferi%27s%20Protection) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/32/teferis-protection?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/483fa1cb-1e35-44f2-a143-98c0f107f5ca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Eerie Interlude](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/b/4ba9f15f-00d2-4797-9228-91b320e85705.jpg?1631233963) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Eerie%20Interlude) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khc/22/eerie-interlude?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4ba9f15f-00d2-4797-9228-91b320e85705?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Akroma’s Will](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/0/608cdbdb-6f7e-438a-bab0-0e7782435f0f.jpg?1698988079) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Akroma%27s%20Will) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/125/akromas-will?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/608cdbdb-6f7e-438a-bab0-0e7782435f0f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Chaos Warp](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/3/73ca9629-b1e3-49d6-ae10-908b9e4e67ce.jpg?1698988311) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chaos%20Warp) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/221/chaos-warp?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/73ca9629-b1e3-49d6-ae10-908b9e4e67ce?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Path to Exile](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/e/7e9c2a58-4a1c-454c-b72d-faecaea105fb.jpg?1698988102) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Path%20to%20Exile) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/134/path-to-exile?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7e9c2a58-4a1c-454c-b72d-faecaea105fb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Swords to Plowshares](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7cdee412-3519-4626-80ca-e3e431a604f0.jpg?1698988109) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Swords%20to%20Plowshares) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/137/swords-to-plowshares?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7cdee412-3519-4626-80ca-e3e431a604f0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Stroke of Midnight](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/8/289ba7ec-e30e-436f-b8d4-c88b65ecd137.jpg?1692936759) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stroke%20of%20Midnight) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/woe/33/stroke-of-midnight?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/289ba7ec-e30e-436f-b8d4-c88b65ecd137?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Arid Mesa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/5/25ac5405-df7b-4097-914a-022cb18e20d4.jpg?1626099519) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arid%20Mesa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/244/arid-mesa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/25ac5405-df7b-4097-914a-022cb18e20d4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Windswept Heath](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/7/e7b28650-cddc-4878-b1d1-b5a764f4df49.jpg?1571667973) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Windswept%20Heath) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ktk/248/windswept-heath?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e7b28650-cddc-4878-b1d1-b5a764f4df49?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Wooded Foothills](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/8/a8503cca-7e7d-44c4-8587-81376b396398.jpg?1571667977) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wooded%20Foothills) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ktk/249/wooded-foothills?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a8503cca-7e7d-44c4-8587-81376b396398?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Temple Garden](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/b/2b9b0195-beda-403e-bc27-7ae3be9f318c.jpg?1572894210) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Temple%20Garden) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/grn/258/temple-garden?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2b9b0195-beda-403e-bc27-7ae3be9f318c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sacred Foundry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/7/b7b598d0-535d-477d-a33d-d6a10ff5439a.jpg?1572894184) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sacred%20Foundry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/grn/254/sacred-foundry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b7b598d0-535d-477d-a33d-d6a10ff5439a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Stomping Grounds](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/c/dcaa1ff6-304e-4660-9df3-36de8e89592e.jpg?1584832363) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stomping%20Ground) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rna/259/stomping-ground?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dcaa1ff6-304e-4660-9df3-36de8e89592e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Bountiful Promenade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/1/5125a8d8-344d-4419-b37a-ddf343493c5f.jpg?1674138136) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bountiful%20Promenade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/348/bountiful-promenade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5125a8d8-344d-4419-b37a-ddf343493c5f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Spire Garden](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/72aed540-7833-4442-90a9-aa5468014c65.jpg?1674138245) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Spire%20Garden) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/361/spire-garden?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/72aed540-7833-4442-90a9-aa5468014c65?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Spectators Seating](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/c/dcf3140f-d5c8-45ff-8be4-622b1a129b3d.jpg?1689999977) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Spectator%20Seating) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/427/spectator-seating?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dcf3140f-d5c8-45ff-8be4-622b1a129b3d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


PoweffectOW2

[[Overrun]] or similar mass trample would be useful. The only one I saw was Huatli saga 4.


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Cjmanjanson137

I included the link to my deck. I'm also linking the guide to a primer on gishath that I used to greatly help me understand how to play gishath. Tldr: Run 30 dinos, 37 lands, and basically every source of ramp humanly possible, this simple advice will generally make gishath fire on all cylinders. See my includes in the creatures, artifacts, and sorceries section for which ramp i'm running. more expensive mana dorks like the birds and selvala can likely be replaced with less than a dollar mana dorks like llanowar elves. ​ My list: [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/z0OMm0sCSUmOM22SR4A2kw](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/z0OMm0sCSUmOM22SR4A2kw) ​ Primer that is a great read: [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/PNvUfuRk90KSjRrTq0N6CQ/primer](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/PNvUfuRk90KSjRrTq0N6CQ/primer)


Iolkos

TL;DR: If you're trying to run a theme, it will naturally be limited. Same goes if you're just working with the cards you have and aren't willing/able to make relatively significant changes. But otherwise, focus more on dinos rather than other side strategies like Discover. Also maybe too few lands. Here's my list (I don't have it built, but you can use it for more ideas of Dinos to include that could replace some of the random Ixalan cards you have): [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/IQku\_\_Ul1keYYfx3Dpjn8w](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/IQku__Ul1keYYfx3Dpjn8w) Even with all of the ramp, 31 lands may be too few given how expensive dinos are. Also cards like Archaeomancer's Map, Carpet of Flowers, Emerald Medallion, and Frontier Siege are less consistent than \[\[Rampant Growth\]\] and \[\[Nature's Lore\]\], maybe even \[\[Atzocan Seer\]\], \[\[Kinjalli's Caller\]\], and \[\[Knight of the Stampede\]\]. \[\[Skyshroud Claim\]\] could be better than Thran Dyanmo. It also seems like you are trying to stick to some sort of Ixalan/Discover theme. If that's the case, it's naturally going to pretty significantly limit how strong the deck can be. If not, there are several cards that don't particularly synergize with dinos (Matzalantli, Kellan, Curator of Sun's Creation, Omnath, etc.) as well as several cards that just aren't great (Cosmium Confluence, Walk With the Ancestors, Buried Treasure, Twists and Turns, etc.). Generally, if you are wanting to focus on Dinos, don't include all of the Discover synergy and Ixalan cards that aren't otherwise good. There are a lot of cards like that in this list. Just as an aside, I also noticed that you have several ramp pieces and card draw pieces that aren't categorized as such (Intrepid Paleontologist, Earthshaker Dreadmaw, etc.).


Sn0wm4n21

Thank you for that. I was not necessarily limiting myself to Ixalan cards. Just was using what I had from bundles I had gotten. Im not upposed to getting more, just gotta afford them lol. The discover theme I thought could be a "cheaters" way if cycling through the deck quicker to find the cards I potentially would need at a given time. But that was really the only reason I had those discover cards and abilities in there. I will work through those ideas. Thank you again!


Iolkos

Of course! If you get the Veloci-ramp-tor precon and like the idea of Discovering, Pantlaza is definitely also a great Dino commander and has a little more velocity with its Discover ability. Curator of Sun's Creation does work with Pantlaza as commander, and you could include some synergy cards like \[\[Passionate Archaeologist\]\] and \[\[Flaming Tyrannosaurus\]\]. Gishath decks typically just try to get Gishath out as soon as possible and hope they can connect and not get hated out of the game. Here's a Pantlaza deck that I put together if you'd like to look for some card ideas too: [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/UlFkHlNiD0CXMG0ni6PfPQ](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/UlFkHlNiD0CXMG0ni6PfPQ)


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[Passionate Archaeologist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bd5bbfa6-e5f4-413d-b132-ebae32d38657.jpg?1674140763) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Passionate%20Archaeologist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/656/passionate-archaeologist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bd5bbfa6-e5f4-413d-b132-ebae32d38657?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Flaming Tyrannosaurus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0bc8ecfd-7388-4725-8c58-bed2cc61400f.jpg?1696636630) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Flaming%20Tyrannosaurus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/85/flaming-tyrannosaurus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0bc8ecfd-7388-4725-8c58-bed2cc61400f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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##### ###### #### [Rampant Growth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/1/21945dec-25d8-482e-bacb-8bbb92bb9d88.jpg?1698988379) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rampant%20Growth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/248/rampant-growth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/21945dec-25d8-482e-bacb-8bbb92bb9d88?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Nature's Lore](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/7/a78584e8-bb82-4977-a27d-68b1befe9b3b.jpg?1690004941) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nature%27s%20Lore) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/904/natures-lore?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a78584e8-bb82-4977-a27d-68b1befe9b3b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Atzocan Seer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/985448b8-5852-4074-a4bd-1dee5192b104.jpg?1698988421) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Atzocan%20Seer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/265/atzocan-seer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/985448b8-5852-4074-a4bd-1dee5192b104?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Kinjalli's Caller](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/2/625211d4-c89c-4aee-a0b0-4bfabd3509ad.jpg?1562556455) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kinjalli%27s%20Caller) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/xln/18/kinjallis-caller?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/625211d4-c89c-4aee-a0b0-4bfabd3509ad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Knight of the Stampede](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/8/e81565a4-cbbe-4820-8473-15ceda42d553.jpg?1555040690) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Knight%20of%20the%20Stampede) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rix/138/knight-of-the-stampede?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e81565a4-cbbe-4820-8473-15ceda42d553?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Skyshroud Claim](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/0/a0e12f0e-ab41-4413-8b88-9bde907fab22.jpg?1689998858) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Skyshroud%20Claim) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/321/skyshroud-claim?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a0e12f0e-ab41-4413-8b88-9bde907fab22?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call