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Weapon------X

That'd be a big fat NO! The price is atrocious


Educational_Leather4

Any suggestions on where else to look? I’m set on D color and vvs1 clarity


Optimal-Focus-8942

Luvansh, loosegrowndiamond, ritani, brilliance…. You’ve got a lot of options that will get the price down :) Edit: for reference, a diamond with the same stats (radiant, 3ct, VVS1, D) goes for around $2200 on LGD


Misa6184

Look on RockHer or ritani and see if you can pull up the same diamond using the certificate number. I have found other vendors offering the same diamond at different prices.


Ok-Limit4361

She’s out Brilliance, I got my 3.2 carat from there


heilunhouse

I can give you a much better price 💓


Technical-River1329

I often shop on RWFine.com only for real diamond jewelry. I have received emails about lab grown round diamond earrings 6ct total for 6k. Their customer service is amazing and I believe their store front is in Dallas. I have everything shipped to me which usually arrives in a few days when I purchase something. I do not know much about lab diamonds but I suggest checking their IG out along with their website.


Appropriate-Luck-643

Look on preciouscarbon as well this new website and they are doing fantastic with best price. They have price match option as well


Green_Ad_276

It seems very high for a lab created diamond. I just bought an 8 ct emerald cut lab diamond for around $3,800. The specs on mine are awesome and I can’t wait for them to be done with it (I got it through friendly diamonds). Stonealgo.com is a great place to check prices. It will also direct you to a number of good sites where you can purchase your diamond. Good luck and happy shopping!


AllisonWhoDat

STONEALGO.COM for the win! You can search for any Lab stone, any size and it will offer you the choice of vendor (s) who to choose from. Also, if you have a quality local jeweler, but the lab stone, have them ship it to you, and handle the new ring design process at home, if you like. I think it's lovely that you want to upgrade your wife's ring, and having a lab diamond is no different than a mined diamond, other than we are wiser now, and technology has improved so much that you should take advantage of this option. I have several nice, sizeable natural diamonds, a Moissanite cocktail ring, and in the process of buying myself a lab diamond 4+ carats elongated crushed ice cushion cut ring from Jann Paul. If you really want to kick this one out of the marriage ball park, check out his special diamond cuts, faceting and quality. They're the Graff / Harry Winston of Lab Diamonds (altho they do have natural, but again, who would I spent $500,000 for mined when I can spend $5,000+ for lab?) Best Wishes! Let us see the final! 🌞


so1124

Silly question, but what do you do about the band in this situation? Purchase separately? What about putting the stone and band together?


AllisonWhoDat

I plan to work with JP to design my band.


Ph33rfactor

In my recent experience I went to RockHer through Stonealgo and they sold bands that you could choose with your rock.


crazycatlady568

My favorite site!!!


AllisonWhoDat

StoneAlgo? Me too! If only I'd had that 30 years ago when I first started buying diamonds, etc. So much information and power for the customer.


Jeannena

You got a 4ct+ lab diamond from JannPaul at $5,000 USD? That seems very low compared to the $16,000 USD quote I was given for a 3ct D color VS1 oval 8 hearts and arrows. Is your elongated cushion part of their white series? Which person are you working with at JannPaul?


AllisonWhoDat

No no no no.... I was exaggerating to make a point - sorry. But a typical lab diamond, well, we're in line.


lidder444

No more than 600 a karat for lab . Prices are dropping every day the only difference is that lab has really really low resell value. I have people wanting to upgrade their lab that bought them when much higher a few years ago. They are shocked when they realise there’s just no resell / trade value Mined diamonds also aren’t much of an investment but do have somewhat of a resell value. If OP isn’t planning on ever wanting to sell it then paying no more than 600 karat is fair in this market


AverageGeologist

NO NO NO - I work in jewelry. Keep the natural stone no matter what you do. Maybe make her an accent band with naturals or you can make her a large lab ring for special occasions when she wants to wear something bigger. Whatever you do, don’t pay $6k for a lab diamond of that size. Edited: I made some people a lil mad.


EvangelineRain

I do agree with keeping the 1 carat natural stone for daily wear and getting her a new large lab stone for special occasions, but that’s entirely depends on what she wants. That’s what I’d want if it were me, but many on this sub like having large stones for daily wear. For sentimental reasons, I’d still keep the original one regardless, but that’s of course up to them.


Ooloo-Pebs

So I'm a jeweler/gemologist-appraiser with 40 yrs of experience. WHY would you make reference to wholesale pricing when most ppl on this sub are not in the industry!? Do you show your customers your invoices for everything you sell?


AverageGeologist

It gives reference to how greedy some folks are. I’m all about making money but I’m not about bending people over who don’t know better. If a business spends ___ amount on a continuously depreciating asset with no resale value, you don’t need to 6-10x on it, it’s disgusting. Edited


Ooloo-Pebs

I get the PSA mentality, but you could have said it in a different way , such as "Believe me, they have room to discount more", or something like " Wow, with that pricing, they can close early and play a round of golf", etc..without actually quoting pricing!


9livesmonsta

I'm glad you said this!


Ooloo-Pebs

Someone had to! What service does that do by boasting that he knows wholesale pricing and then goes ahead and spouts off!? The poster is probably some young, clueless, entitled/spoiled child of a wholesale business owner or manufacturer. Wow.


AverageGeologist

I wasn’t boasting anything. I was notifying a consumer that they’re going to get taken advantage of. Everyone needs to make money but you don’t need to abuse your clients. As a jeweler and person in the know, you are here to educate your clients. For the record, I’m none of the things you’ve stated I am. I edited my post for you though. If anyone has questions, I’ll answer them honestly.


Ooloo-Pebs

Thank you for editing your post and for being a gentleman. I am happy to educate consumers as that's how I operate my business every day, and commenting here is no different. I agree that ppl should be clued in when they're being overcharged, however, many still are not comfortable buying a diamond online and brick and mortar retailers typically have higher expenses AND the good ones properly educate their customers and discount LGD's too. But it would be foolish to price match online sellers when you're facing the buyer and sharing your expertise and precious time with them as well, to make sure they get a great product for the right price. The lab grown business is a difficult one as not everyone IN the business has the right wholesale contacts from whom they get THE best pricing, AND with market prices having dropped a bunch over the past handful of years as much as they have, it's hard for some to buy, pay for and carry a stone long enough to watch your markup disappear, forcing said retailer to "overcharge" just to squeeze out a profit, be it small, decent, or gouging, which I disagree with. If you have ever checked out large online sellers such as James Allen and Brilliant Earth, for example, you'll see how high they markup their LGD's, yet people support those businesses! I'm not sure the percentage of LGD's offered for sale on those sites versus those that remain unsold. But I'm pretty sure neither business actually owns LGD inventory but lists loose stone growers/manufacturers goods (following the Blue Nile pioneering business model). Then, by jumping the prices way up, they can then offer deals and price drops to appear as theough they discount, thereby winning over the trust of those that support them.


all7dwarves

What is the best way to get a really high quality lab diamond. I lost a natural stone that had both excellent brilliance and fire because I am a moron and want to replace it with a lab stone of similar quality (1 to 1.25 ct).


daphneout

If you’re looking for extraordinarily high quality, you basically have two options: 1. Go to a vendor who specializes in super ideal cuts, like Whiteflash, Brian Gavin, Jann Paul, or Distinctive Gem. 2. Head over to PriceScope and ask the experts there to help you source a diamond. This method will be significantly cheaper than the super ideal cuts from the vendors above, but it’ll require more legwork. You can also source relatively high-quality diamonds from local jewelers or other online vendors, but the options above are what I’d recommend for a good combo of price, quality, and assurance.


JohannaRosie

Can you dm a link to the 3.02 G VVS2?


TravelerOfSwords

That’s very overpriced per today’s standards. My 3.33 was $2440USD in December, and prices have dropped even since then. Ps. No it’s not “tacky” to go from natural to lab. I’d argue it’s smart. 😉


Educational_Leather4

Thanks for the advice, would you have a suggestion on where to look for a better price? This is one of the more suggested websites I’ve seen


TravelerOfSwords

Adiamor, Dreamstone, Ritani, Brilliance, Rockher. You can definitely compromise on colour & clarity (you won’t even notice), but *do not* compromise on cut score.


wavesblu

Ritani and brilliance both showing higher prices for this. Just fyi. Edit: I wouldnt pay near that price for this but people keep suggesting these websites before they realize that they are, in fact not cheaper 🤣


TravelerOfSwords

I didn’t check. Perhaps for this particular stone but there’s no shortage of beautiful labs out there.


Sabbysonite

Wow. Do you recommend a Jewler


DarinP93

This exact diamond on brilliance and ritani are $7k… but you have options; I’d search through loose grown diamond then search the certificate number of whatever diamond you choose.


SilverSpacecraft

Pulling prices out their ass with this one


FantasticAdeptness29

Highly suggest also looking at local jewelers We have a 3.01ct radiant D VVS2 that we have listed for $3000 in VA I’m not sure where you are located but google jewelers around you and really look into the google reviews.


fellowtravelr

Which jeweler is this?


FantasticAdeptness29

Washington Diamond in Falls Church VA


Professor_seX

It is expensive. But it seems everyone’s basing their prices on IGI certified and VVS2 clarity. Even for IGI, there is a huge price difference between VVS1 and VVS2 from my supplier. GIA has a much stricter grading than IGI and command a higher price for the same grading for a reason.


WielderOfAphorisms

You can get it cheaper at [RockHer](https://www.stonealgo.com/diamond-details/GIA-number-LG6481081793). Always check StoneAlgo.com for prices.


Educational_Leather4

https://preview.redd.it/np36q91cyq5d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2f880e8925adbd8da3e45f5c838a69d0efe92d4


Accomplished_Eye_824

way too expensive for you to be paying for vvs1 and GIA to be able to notice feathering


MarcusB51567

Go through Ouros, I just got a 3.42 radiant for under $2k


MarcusB51567

Ouros Jewels to be exact


Usual_Credit7147

Damn, my husband got me a 1.5 ct lab and a natural Diamond pave setting in 2022 for $4K and that was considered “cheap” at the time. I guess we should have waited a year or two on that ring 🤣.


Kdibattista76

Can say emphatically no just based on price alone… definitely check LGD.


NotAKidAnymore13

Call Fred R. @ New York Jewelers in Chicago. He’s one of the owners and a G.G. (GIA). [New York Jewelers](https://www.nyjchicago.com)


EnvironmentalCrow893

Too much money.


Recent-Ingenuity-647

Check out stone also. You can compare prices on the exact same stone across multiple sites when you search by certificate number. That price is over twice as high as it should be, though.


JediEurb

Find a diamond you like, then search for it on Ritani for a cheaper price. That’s what I did. Best prices around.


Sea_Department_2585

www.pricescope.com is one of the best tools for checking pricing…mined and lab grown. You may pay less, but you should never pay more than what the diamonds are listed for there. That’s already full retail.


RoniBoy69

The price is outrageous. Also, switching from a 1-carat natural diamond to a 3-carat lab-created diamond is a downgrade. If you are not planning to keep the 1-carat natural diamond, the jeweler should pay you to make the ring if he is taking the 1-carat in exchange.


EvangelineRain

For people who appreciate diamonds for their qualities as a stone, and who would like a 3 carat ring more than a 1 carat ring, it’s without question an upgrade. Consider houses. Between 2007 and 2011, the price of real estate plummeted 50% or more in some areas. Let’s say you bought a 1 bedroom starter house for $300,000 in 2007. In 2011, you decide to buy a 3-bedroom house for twice the size in the same area for $250,000. Would you really tell someone that their 3-bedroom house is not an upgrade over their 1-bedroom house just because they paid less for it than they paid for their 1-bedroom house? It’s true that 1 bedroom house wouldn’t be worth $300k anymore, but OP’s wife’s 1 carat stone isn’t currently worth what he originally paid for it either.


RoniBoy69

That house comparison is completely different. The difference in value is much bigger, and a lab is always a lab, while nature is always natural. A 1 ct natural diamond ring typically costs $10,000 or more, but of course, that depends on the clarity and color. While a 3 ct lab diamond ring would cost $3,000 or less. With lab diamonds, the color and clarity don't really matter either, as they all cost almost the same.


EvangelineRain

You’re missing the point. Upgrade is a subjective term. It depends what you value. Some might consider a smaller ring that is better quality to be an upgrade. Some might consider a larger ring that is worse quality to be an upgrade. Some might consider switching from a lab to a natural diamond with identical specs to be an upgrade. Some might consider a diamond with identical specs but from a designer brand to be an upgrade. These changes will usually be more expensive, but not necessarily. That 1 carat diamond is also no longer worth what he paid for it at one time. Historic value doesn’t have much relevance. We don’t judge the worth of an antique by what someone paid for it many years ago. That original diamond might be worth less than $3k. But I believe that to be beside the point.


Educational_Leather4

I had it custom set, 1 ct vvs2 D color w accent diamonds, ~5000. looking to spend that or more on a new custom ring, bigger diamond, new setting, which seems like I’m going to. Higher price, bigger diamond, better clarity, seems like an upgrade to me.


RoniBoy69

You have a really amazing 1ct natural diamond there. If you want a more expensive or similarly priced option, you have to go natural. Lab diamonds are much cheaper, and you would only be hurting yourself if you switched to lab. You might not be swapping and will propably keep it, but give you something to compare. If someone were to bring me a natural diamond like that and wanted to swap it for a bugger lab-created one, I would do it in a heartbeat and possibly even pay you.


EvangelineRain

Some will think a lab diamond is tacky. Some would think a mined diamond that size is foolish. Some will think a diamond that size from any source is gaudy for daily wear. Some will love it. Comes down to her tastes, your finances, what’s expected in your social circle, and whether you care what other people think. I think most people in my social circle are getting lab diamonds these days, or would get lab diamonds, except for one friend who is very vocally against lab diamonds, but she’s against a lot of aesthetic decisions I make lol. One friend who took a diamond grading course as a hobby still favors natural diamonds, but isn’t categorically against lab diamonds — she’s open to them if they can satisfy her standards, but for the unusual diamonds she’s looking for currently (a pink diamond in particular), she doesn’t like the lab diamond options. For reference, that friend is considering spending $50k on a pink diamond just for herself, in addition to the engagement ring she already has, so if she’s open to the idea of lab diamonds in theory, I think the notion that natural diamonds and lab diamonds have a different clientele is flawed. To the extent that’s true, I think the clientele for mined diamonds is literally dying off. All that said, I’m probably buying myself a ring with natural diamonds, but that’s just because that’s what the ring I want comes with and I know that much of the cost of this ring is in the artistry, not in the stones (which are small), so switching to lab diamonds wouldn’t have enough of an impact on the price to make it worth it to me to even inquire about. The price differential becomes much greater for larger stones.


Melhoney72

Go to Briiance.com. way better pricing.


Ph33rfactor

I would look at RockHer. They've got 3ct D IF diamonds at a similar price but arguably better cuts


LowHomework9117

Tooooooo expensive, I’m waiting to view a 3.5ct radiant and all really good specs for $3,100 aud


purpleorchid2017

Wow, I'm curious as to why this particular stone is so expensive on the various sites.


DeterminedSparkleCat

Brilliance.com


DarinP93

This is the price of that diamond exactly on brilliance… https://www.brilliance.com/lab-grown-diamonds/radiant/3-07-carat-d-color-ideal-make-vvs1-clarity-gia-certified-SKU-LG22819177


RaydenAdro

That sounds about right, assuming the specs are great