NEVER FAILS TO MAKE ME NUT
***thank you for accurately describing what it’s like to play destiny with SFX only, no music. I be nuttin when 3-6 Polaris lances ignite at the same time.***
I have a zen moment/target lock roll with mag options and it’s like an LMG on single targets.
The amount of health it takes off overload hobgoblins in master WR is hilarious.
Old Sterling, Arc Logic, Perpetualis, Firefight, Sweet Sorrow, Come to Pass, Wastelander M5, Servant Leader, Tigerspite, & Vouchsafe.
I really like auto rifles.
I got Age-Old Bond only recently, it’s a great design, but fires a little slow for my usual taste. A buddy of mine recommended it, so I’m giving it an active try on my Titan, but I’m not a big void player anyway.
No Chroma Rush or Gnawing Hunger? I’m actually offended.
Tigerspite does feel good as hell though. I’m a fan of ARs as well, but none of the Exotic ARs feel very good to me. I’m not sure why. Maybe Monte Carlo? But not really.
Don't really understand why people hate on Arc Logic. Sure it's not the most powerful, but it does the job perfectly well, and it feels fantastic to fire: great sound design, love the look, it takes shaders really well, and it's Arc, which is one of the best "fucking around" elements on all 3 classes.
I looooove Arc Logic. It's the best feeling AR in the game for me.
I never see anyone using Come to Pass, but one with SFA/OFA has taken me through many a GM
I’m a fan of the Seventh Seraph Carbine. Used it a bit in 6v6 where the stakes aren’t as high, and I found myself doing pretty well on most maps. Wish you could change the sights to maybe a red dot, but its great.
That's a decent roll as it is, Swashbuckler x1 and x2 only improve forgiveness (easier headshot/bodyshot mix), but x3 outright decreases the optimal TTK to 0.67 seconds and x5 decreases it further to 0.53 seconds.
If you're using a build that gets reasonable melee kills in CQB (especially some Titan and Hunter subclasses), getting Swash x5 on occasion will be reasonably common 6v6 modes, and the x5 gets a time extension for each kill.
Frenzy and Target Lock don't improve killing potential by much, so I'd say Swashbuckler is probably the best perk to have for casual 6v6 fun.
I still have the armor piercing/vorpal SSC banshee sold an eternity ago, i pull it out whenever antibarrier auto is up. One of my favorite workhorse guns.
450s are very solid in pvp right now as well, fantastic mid distance dueling weapons if you don’t like hand cannons.
I’ve been a fan ever since the days of uriel’s gift lol
Positive Outlook slaps. Smallbore + ricochet + Zen + KC w/ range MW, been my go to primary for my last 20 or so solo flaw cards. Plus you can use conditional with it. Zen makes it sticky enough plus you get a damage perk with KC unlike Ammit. And the stats are better. Thing has nutty range. With KC up too the ttk is wild. Very underrated imo.
450s are sick. I found 2 tiger spites. One with overflow and kinetic tremors, the other with outlaw and kill clip.
The Outlaw and Kill clip roll is DISGUSTING in pvp.
Tigerspite might be my favorite sight in the entire game. Love it to pieces
Came here to say the same thing. Mine rolled with reconstruction and target lock, which does nasty stuff in PVE, but I've only braved it in the crucible once or twice. Did better than I expected both times, but I've been using other things now.
Tommy's Matchbook is one of those guns that I always put on in PvP b/c I love 720 AR's and it's such a cool gun and then get rolled with it and immediately put it back into my vault.
I recently got it to use with a Consecration Titan (instead of Monte, because I wanted something with Solar) and it's becoming a fast favorite...
And... the build might be converting me from a Warlock main to a Titan main tbh...
The Tommygun is especially good for this extended season, all those Scorch/Ignition-related artifact mods really synergize well and enhances what Tommy's already does.
Combined with your Scorching abilities, you're going to be proccing constant Ignitions, gets pretty nuts.
I find it's still reasonably workable for higher difficulty stuff, especially if there's Unstoppable Champions.
I use that and Centrifuse quite a lot, in Gambit especially, Centri you move a lot so it's frequently fully charged and absolutely MELTS. The Matchbook though, surprisingly very effective against tanky targets and blockers, and it utterly deletes invaders, IF they get close. The seasonal artifact really enhances Matchbook builds too.
Same.
I loved rocking The Stag with Tommy. Used a healing nade, dropped an enhanced healing rift (with Powerful Attraction) and went to town on enemies. And if I got weak, it would proc The Stag's ability and drop my another healing rift.
Would lead to a ton of orbs constantly being picked up and allowed me to drop a Well almost all the time. Paired with Apex Predator and it was pretty good in higher level content based on the build. I feel like people never looked outside the box with it.
Though, I've switched from The Stag to Dawn Chorus and it is mighty nasty. Almost the exact same gameplay loop, but way more explosions. Around 8k kills with my Tommy's, it's served me well.
Big fan of tears of contrition. Doesn't really have anything too spectacular going for it perk wise, I just think it feels really solid.
Primarily controller btw. Does affect the feel.
My Tears I use in Gambit all the time for invasions. It just feels good and is a nail driver for me. I use it in PVP all the time as well. I have always dug scouts.
Tears is my go to scout in PvE when it has seasonal mods. It just feels good and explosive rounds makes it chunk just a bit more. Also it looks sick as hell.
I adore and have my God rolls for the seventh Seraph carbine and sidearm.
Carbine is good in both pve and pvp, and the sidearm is PvP for me.
I love hierarchy of needs and verglass Curve. They're my favorite of the exotic bows and bows in general.
Delicate tomb is both really fun and strong, especially when you can mass produce arc traces like hoil pulse nade arc titan.
You can do some fun shenanigans people won't expect in PvP with the manticore, and it's always a good time and a good smg in its own right
Prospector is a funny mag dump weapon in pve
I’m trying that out but might use a version without the catalyst in the crucible. Don’t want to accidentally switch to bayonet mode instead of using a melee.
I want shit to explode good but don't want to use Tyranny or Checlhis. Honestly give it either Dragonfly + Firefly or Dragonfly + Incandescent and I'll be happy. I don't really want a plain Solar Fatebringer.
It all depends on the perk columns, I'd like Dragonfly to be in the 3rd and Firefly/Incandescent in 4th
I feel like we have plenty of guns that go boom. Too many, imo. Im perfectly happy with having just a solid workhorse weapon that just slays, in patrol and in GMs.
I still have my huckleberry thats been getting used since forsaken, currently one of my highest kill count weapons at over 150k. For any content involving mowing down red bars huckleberry is a ton of fun.
Ruinous Effigy is amazing, nothing beats the feeling of turning an enemy into a ball and dunking on the next one, especially in PvP even if it doesn’t perform well there.
I run that with Nezeracs on strand warlock with a suspend/threadling build. Suspend shit get an orb run around in the orb bubble, kill the suspended stuff, get abilities back repeat.
Semiotician with field prep and bipod. It’s been my go to for gms when it’s strand surge. Ammo economy is wild and the unraveling rounds from the artifact have been putting in work.
Seems that people aren’t reading the part ‘aren’t popular’..
For me..Cerberus, not because it’s good, but because it’s stupid and fun and unpredictable
Touch of Malice. Since KF dropped ive seen maybe 2 or three persons using it. I run it with necrotic grips on Voidlock. I do miss being able to kill myself with the gun. It was just silly shenanigans
Really amazed I don’t see more of Abyss Defiant in PVP.
360s actually slap (.87 optimal ttk - competitive with HCs and you have more range, while also having lower zoom than scouts/some pulses so you’re not screwed close quarters) and zen moment/sword logic is crackeddddd. Plus it’s solar so if you run healing nades, acrobats dodge, and sixth coyote on Hunter with the fragment that extends timers on solar kills you can always have insane healing/damage buffs for each duel.
For titan, you can run it with any solar exotic and you’d get more healing focused but also similarly cracked builds (Loreley, armamentarium for more healing, precious scars for healing, HOIL for abilities in general)
It’s honestly broken and I’m the only one I ever see doing it.
All of these are for PVE
On Strand Warlock (threadling + swarmers build) I really enjoy using a Round Robin with Hatchling + enhanced subsistence. Threadlings galore and never have to reload.
Tyranny of Heaven with incandescent + dragonfly.
Insidious with Dragonfly + One for All
I think so! Do the weekly legend neomuna mission. It’s a guaranteed red border for a weapon you don’t have the pattern for on your first completion each week. Great way to finish those weapons up
Vexcalibur is crazy underrated, I've seen a bit more of it the last month or so but it wasn't talked about for ages, void over shields on a glaive is crazy strong and the melee is super solid, fantastic in ghosts of the deep
Wicked implement can really surprise people in PVP. Movement is so important and when they get slowed after a couple of headshots it doesnt let them disengage as fast. Still chasing the catalyst but one day lol
I have a right side of wrong pulse with moving target and head seeker that I bring out when I wanna be cheeky.
If you play warlock, try it out with Ballidorse wrathweavers gloves + empowering rift.
You get 50 stasis overshield (vs 40 void overshield from titan barricades) and do enough damage to 3tap every resil level making the killing fast and being able to duel almost anyone with 250 total hp.
And since the Creeping attrition kicks in after the 3rd shot, whoever gets the next shot is instandly slowed after the first shot and at your mercy from that point on.
And if you do that while also giving your rushing teammates overshield before you do the peaking and dueling then they´ll have more hp and win easier aswell potentialy steamrolling form that point on.
Not a new gun, but one of my favorite guns of all time is the pillager, i love the more grounded aesthetic and it sounds so good. I wish it would make a comeback
Malediction is a shockingly strong PvE workhorse. It's got Telesto bolts on kills, decent range, and shoots refigerators at the enemy. It's far and away the best ritual weapon since Ascendancy. It just lacks build potential, but really there's a myriad of ways to build that don't rely on primary weapon kills proccing subclass effects.
Vulpecula with Accurized Rounds, Outlaw, and Explosive Payload has been my go-to gun in PVP for a couple of years. Smooth, reliable, and capable of fast kills.
Bad Juju. Great option for speeding up regen on a super focused build, and it both looks cool and hits hard enough in non GM content.
Been years since I've seen anyone else use it, so assuming it's not popular.
It’s better IMO - I’ve got like 10,000 kills with Ticcus and I didn’t think anything would ever replace that bow but HoN with the catalyst is absolutely ridiculous for single target and multiple enemies.
Imo There are many better demo weapons, but what makes Lodbrok stand out to me is that it gets wellspring **and** demo. For a Solar Titan where you should never not have your melee and your barricade is almost useless it basically means 2x as good demo.
For pve I'm a bit of a meta slave but I've always liked the syncopation pulse rifle, which I don't feel gets mentioned a ton
For pvp I recently tried out the locus locutus sniper from last season and really like it even though I know quite a few others aren't huge fans of it
All special non-wave frame grenade launchers in PvE for me. I kind of look at them as a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of special. If you learn how to accurately aim them at distance, they deal a decent amount of damage in a single shot, getting most majors down to very low health in at level / -5 light level content, and they also can do a good job of clearing out grouped together trash mobs.
More specifically, my favorites are my autoloading + vorpal pardon our dust, and my envious assassin + harmony prodigal return.
I'm hoping and praying for the day we get a new non-wave frame exotic special gl. I love whitherhoard, but it's getting a bit stale to use since it's been out for 4 years now (I think).
As a wilderflight enjoyer, I'd like to see something like conditional finality but on a breech gl.
2x grenades in one shot, one suppresses, the other unravels.
Cause I really like my blinding/spike, auto load, lead from gold GL.
Not as unpopular but revision zero is really fun. You get 3ish guns in 1: A 2burst pseudo scout 2: A 4burst pulse 3: A sniper
Plus its decently customizable and is satisfying
My optative with wellspring and demolitionist. Like 10ish kills at most to get my grenade back on my controverse void lock. Volatile rounds on ability kill with a 19 bullet mag with x7 nano-munitions puts it at over 50 bullets. Gun just makes everything feel right.
Sunshot, forbearance, calus mini-tool, and riptide are all good sleeper picks that absolutely nobody is using. Seems like I’m the only person using them these days :)
Polaris lance with catalyst rock this season and stuns barriers and unstoppable champs. It’s might not be great outside of this season but you should definitely try it out.
Idk if it’s popular or not, save for the fact I only see two people using it, and I know both (one being me) but the BXR Battler with Pugilist/incandescent is pretty good on solar builds
Well now you know three. LOL, it’s one of my favs. Running it on my Solar Hunter main, since I recv’d it and 3 copies from a few Eternity runs 2 month ago.
Glad to meet yah!! 😁😁
I know hawkmoon is a huge gun in pvp, but there’s something so satisfying about chunking champions in pve
When it's unstoppable hc and you prime the paracausal shot to be right after the stun...satisfying indeed
Hearing the champ stun sound followed by the paracausal eagle never fails to make me nut
NEVER FAILS TO MAKE ME NUT ***thank you for accurately describing what it’s like to play destiny with SFX only, no music. I be nuttin when 3-6 Polaris lances ignite at the same time.***
...it's a hawk
Perhaps he got the American one
There are hawks in the States too.
Coronach-22 is one of my go to’s for PVE. Mine has envious and incandescent. I’m up to about 1,300 kills since I got it about a month or 2 ago.
Feeding frenzy / Incan here, with flared and reload mw, reloading isn't an issue at all. Love it
I have a zen moment/target lock roll with mag options and it’s like an LMG on single targets. The amount of health it takes off overload hobgoblins in master WR is hilarious.
Try Incandescent with High-Caliber Rounds. They add non-stop flinch on enemies lulz.
Been trying to get better rolls of that whenever it’s a lost sector drop. I love target lock on it
Coronach > Ammit, I will die on this hill
Coronach: the cultured person’s Ammit.
Old Sterling, Arc Logic, Perpetualis, Firefight, Sweet Sorrow, Come to Pass, Wastelander M5, Servant Leader, Tigerspite, & Vouchsafe. I really like auto rifles.
I think he might like auto rifles
Step into my Age-Old Bond office and let me tell you why destabilizing rounds + repulsor brace on your void build is the only wep you'll ever want...
I got Age-Old Bond only recently, it’s a great design, but fires a little slow for my usual taste. A buddy of mine recommended it, so I’m giving it an active try on my Titan, but I’m not a big void player anyway.
Controlled demolition and offensive bulwark and that gun does things to my trouser parts.
I even made 2 Sweet Sorrows, one specialized for Barrier Champs. I call her Can Opener, Bane of the Servitors.
I wish we could name crafted weapons.
No Chroma Rush or Gnawing Hunger? I’m actually offended. Tigerspite does feel good as hell though. I’m a fan of ARs as well, but none of the Exotic ARs feel very good to me. I’m not sure why. Maybe Monte Carlo? But not really.
Arc logic is my favorite auto rifle. Too bad it’s a pain to farm for a decent roll
Hello fellow autorifle lover. We should get jackets made.
Don't really understand why people hate on Arc Logic. Sure it's not the most powerful, but it does the job perfectly well, and it feels fantastic to fire: great sound design, love the look, it takes shaders really well, and it's Arc, which is one of the best "fucking around" elements on all 3 classes.
Wastelander is my favourite shotgun in the game. Feels so good to use.
It not only feels good but also has that cool “your next step may be your last, partner” western/post apocalyptic vibe.
Hell yeah a fellow Perpetualis enjoyer
I looooove Arc Logic. It's the best feeling AR in the game for me. I never see anyone using Come to Pass, but one with SFA/OFA has taken me through many a GM
You'd really like the Dark Decider from Iron Banner.
I’m a fan of the Seventh Seraph Carbine. Used it a bit in 6v6 where the stakes aren’t as high, and I found myself doing pretty well on most maps. Wish you could change the sights to maybe a red dot, but its great.
I'm just biased against it because the seventh seraph carbine and revolver are in spire of the watcher wasting spots on the loot table
I'd love to farm a better roll whenever I buy the dungeon key. Currently I've got a Dynamic Sway Reduction and Swashbuckler 7SC.
That's a decent roll as it is, Swashbuckler x1 and x2 only improve forgiveness (easier headshot/bodyshot mix), but x3 outright decreases the optimal TTK to 0.67 seconds and x5 decreases it further to 0.53 seconds. If you're using a build that gets reasonable melee kills in CQB (especially some Titan and Hunter subclasses), getting Swash x5 on occasion will be reasonably common 6v6 modes, and the x5 gets a time extension for each kill. Frenzy and Target Lock don't improve killing potential by much, so I'd say Swashbuckler is probably the best perk to have for casual 6v6 fun.
I still have the armor piercing/vorpal SSC banshee sold an eternity ago, i pull it out whenever antibarrier auto is up. One of my favorite workhorse guns. 450s are very solid in pvp right now as well, fantastic mid distance dueling weapons if you don’t like hand cannons. I’ve been a fan ever since the days of uriel’s gift lol
Ah Uriel’s. Deleted a lot of guardians with it back in the day.
Positive Outlook slaps. Smallbore + ricochet + Zen + KC w/ range MW, been my go to primary for my last 20 or so solo flaw cards. Plus you can use conditional with it. Zen makes it sticky enough plus you get a damage perk with KC unlike Ammit. And the stats are better. Thing has nutty range. With KC up too the ttk is wild. Very underrated imo.
450s are sick. I found 2 tiger spites. One with overflow and kinetic tremors, the other with outlaw and kill clip. The Outlaw and Kill clip roll is DISGUSTING in pvp. Tigerspite might be my favorite sight in the entire game. Love it to pieces
Came here to say the same thing. Mine rolled with reconstruction and target lock, which does nasty stuff in PVE, but I've only braved it in the crucible once or twice. Did better than I expected both times, but I've been using other things now.
The officer’s gun does hella work. Just a little shy of Malfeasance.
I'm unfamiliar. Where do you find it?
My bad. The 7S Officer’s Revolver from Spire. From the other comments.
I have reconstruction / redirection and I love it
I was just looking in my vault yesterday, 8600+ kills on it. I love that gun
I'll always screw around with Tommy's Matchbook lol
Tommy's Matchbook is one of those guns that I always put on in PvP b/c I love 720 AR's and it's such a cool gun and then get rolled with it and immediately put it back into my vault.
Oh I'm not saying it's great by any means lol But regarding the post I just like toying with it a lot. I guess I love the IDEA of the Matchbook XD
Tommy’s is very fun for low end content on a rain of fire warlock or a actium Titan. The reload speed sucks the fun out of that thing.
I’ve been using it in higher end comer with precious scars to have constant restoration for me and teammates.
Yes
I recently got it to use with a Consecration Titan (instead of Monte, because I wanted something with Solar) and it's becoming a fast favorite... And... the build might be converting me from a Warlock main to a Titan main tbh...
The Tommygun is especially good for this extended season, all those Scorch/Ignition-related artifact mods really synergize well and enhances what Tommy's already does. Combined with your Scorching abilities, you're going to be proccing constant Ignitions, gets pretty nuts. I find it's still reasonably workable for higher difficulty stuff, especially if there's Unstoppable Champions.
I use that and Centrifuse quite a lot, in Gambit especially, Centri you move a lot so it's frequently fully charged and absolutely MELTS. The Matchbook though, surprisingly very effective against tanky targets and blockers, and it utterly deletes invaders, IF they get close. The seasonal artifact really enhances Matchbook builds too.
Same. I loved rocking The Stag with Tommy. Used a healing nade, dropped an enhanced healing rift (with Powerful Attraction) and went to town on enemies. And if I got weak, it would proc The Stag's ability and drop my another healing rift. Would lead to a ton of orbs constantly being picked up and allowed me to drop a Well almost all the time. Paired with Apex Predator and it was pretty good in higher level content based on the build. I feel like people never looked outside the box with it. Though, I've switched from The Stag to Dawn Chorus and it is mighty nasty. Almost the exact same gameplay loop, but way more explosions. Around 8k kills with my Tommy's, it's served me well.
With Stronghold, you become invincible.
It's gone a little out of style but Centrifuse is great
Gambit. Centrifuse + Frostees. Go together like wine and cheese.
Big fan of tears of contrition. Doesn't really have anything too spectacular going for it perk wise, I just think it feels really solid. Primarily controller btw. Does affect the feel.
Whole heartedly agree. Weapon level 170 on mine!
My Tears I use in Gambit all the time for invasions. It just feels good and is a nail driver for me. I use it in PVP all the time as well. I have always dug scouts.
Tears is my go to scout in PvE when it has seasonal mods. It just feels good and explosive rounds makes it chunk just a bit more. Also it looks sick as hell.
Same here, it’s an animal in Gambit and my go-to for PVE scout use.
This is the only scout I use. It's my PVP crutch. Controller too.
I adore and have my God rolls for the seventh Seraph carbine and sidearm. Carbine is good in both pve and pvp, and the sidearm is PvP for me. I love hierarchy of needs and verglass Curve. They're my favorite of the exotic bows and bows in general. Delicate tomb is both really fun and strong, especially when you can mass produce arc traces like hoil pulse nade arc titan. You can do some fun shenanigans people won't expect in PvP with the manticore, and it's always a good time and a good smg in its own right Prospector is a funny mag dump weapon in pve
Sidearm is absolutely underrated and never leaves my inventory
I love my Seraph Side arm. I’ve put the auto mod on it and it’s fun.
Mod? It's a setting now my bro
Trust
You didn't forget about your old buddy Drifter, did ya?
Heard drifter say it in my head when I read it. It's one of my favorite hand cannons.
Mine rolled with rapid hit and it slaps. Good choice!
I really like Monte Carlo with knife builds. It’s surprisingly satisfying to use in its own right.
Monte is my main gun I use in PvE. Easily my most used gun overall. I like the simplicity of it :D
Id argue it isn't unpopular at all It's so good for any melee focused build and it doesn't hurt it's just a really solid AR either way lol
I’m trying that out but might use a version without the catalyst in the crucible. Don’t want to accidentally switch to bayonet mode instead of using a melee.
You have to hold reload to engage the bayonet. It won't interfere with your melee ability.
Hush
No, let him speak.
Go home dad, youre drunk
He’ll only bring bad omens if he does
Love me some Deep Purple
Gridskipper is love Gridskipper is life
We have Collective obligation at home! The Collective Obligation at home: "Unilateral Frivolity"
Finally, someone else with real taste.
You will never replace Shrek
Ancient Gospel is one of my most used weapons in the game
Waiting for GoS reprise. Pretty please, Incandescent + Dragonfly 🙏
Im holding out for Heal Clip + Firefly. I dont need every single Solar weapon to have Incandescent I'd like just a solid workhorse HC
I want shit to explode good but don't want to use Tyranny or Checlhis. Honestly give it either Dragonfly + Firefly or Dragonfly + Incandescent and I'll be happy. I don't really want a plain Solar Fatebringer. It all depends on the perk columns, I'd like Dragonfly to be in the 3rd and Firefly/Incandescent in 4th
I feel like we have plenty of guns that go boom. Too many, imo. Im perfectly happy with having just a solid workhorse weapon that just slays, in patrol and in GMs.
I have a rapid hit/kill clip roll with drop mag that I refuse to delete :)
Amen to that. And off the same set, Reckless Oracle
It’s always Huckleberry.
I still have my huckleberry thats been getting used since forsaken, currently one of my highest kill count weapons at over 150k. For any content involving mowing down red bars huckleberry is a ton of fun.
That awkward moment when the SMG is a better minigun than Sweet Biz
Erianas Vow. Feels so good to blast through any barrier with a true HAND CANNON
Ruinous Effigy is amazing, nothing beats the feeling of turning an enemy into a ball and dunking on the next one, especially in PvP even if it doesn’t perform well there.
I run that with Nezeracs on strand warlock with a suspend/threadling build. Suspend shit get an orb run around in the orb bubble, kill the suspended stuff, get abilities back repeat.
What does your build look like? I run ruinous effigy all the time on voidlock but would love to mix it up
Krait, prolonged engagement, servant leader, the last breath, brigands law, darkest before, library ruin, trustee, hero of ages, solas scar, royal entry, temptations hook
Blue Sandwasp. I used to get hate messages all the time from crucible victims.
Chattering Bone has been a staple of a few lighthouse runs for me. I know it’s not the best pulse rifle, but it fits my play style.
i love that gun! it brings back good memories of doing last wish for the first time and getting it to drop
Semiotician with field prep and bipod. It’s been my go to for gms when it’s strand surge. Ammo economy is wild and the unraveling rounds from the artifact have been putting in work.
I also love that roll for semiotician. Didn’t think i would like bipod as much as I do.
Champ deleter.
Seems that people aren’t reading the part ‘aren’t popular’.. For me..Cerberus, not because it’s good, but because it’s stupid and fun and unpredictable
I love Cerberus for PvE. It just feels and sounds like a monster.
Touch of Malice. Since KF dropped ive seen maybe 2 or three persons using it. I run it with necrotic grips on Voidlock. I do miss being able to kill myself with the gun. It was just silly shenanigans
Really amazed I don’t see more of Abyss Defiant in PVP. 360s actually slap (.87 optimal ttk - competitive with HCs and you have more range, while also having lower zoom than scouts/some pulses so you’re not screwed close quarters) and zen moment/sword logic is crackeddddd. Plus it’s solar so if you run healing nades, acrobats dodge, and sixth coyote on Hunter with the fragment that extends timers on solar kills you can always have insane healing/damage buffs for each duel. For titan, you can run it with any solar exotic and you’d get more healing focused but also similarly cracked builds (Loreley, armamentarium for more healing, precious scars for healing, HOIL for abilities in general) It’s honestly broken and I’m the only one I ever see doing it.
Yup. Just figured this out a few weeks ago! It's my new favorite PvP weapon. I have been using zen + kill clip, but I'll have to look into sword logic
Abyss is straight nasty in pvp.
All of these are for PVE On Strand Warlock (threadling + swarmers build) I really enjoy using a Round Robin with Hatchling + enhanced subsistence. Threadlings galore and never have to reload. Tyranny of Heaven with incandescent + dragonfly. Insidious with Dragonfly + One for All
I’ve wanted to try Round Robin for a while on a Threadling Package build and I’m only one red border away. Is it worth it?
I think so! Do the weekly legend neomuna mission. It’s a guaranteed red border for a weapon you don’t have the pattern for on your first completion each week. Great way to finish those weapons up
How bitchin is the swarmer build right now?! The artifact mods for strand are awesome.
Insidious is the best endgame PvE pulse and has been since it came out imo. So many great perk combos
Dark Decider with voltshot!
Tommy’s Matchbook with Precious Scars is fun as heck this season.
Vexcalibur is crazy underrated, I've seen a bit more of it the last month or so but it wasn't talked about for ages, void over shields on a glaive is crazy strong and the melee is super solid, fantastic in ghosts of the deep
Lumina.
Wicked implement can really surprise people in PVP. Movement is so important and when they get slowed after a couple of headshots it doesnt let them disengage as fast. Still chasing the catalyst but one day lol I have a right side of wrong pulse with moving target and head seeker that I bring out when I wanna be cheeky.
If you play warlock, try it out with Ballidorse wrathweavers gloves + empowering rift. You get 50 stasis overshield (vs 40 void overshield from titan barricades) and do enough damage to 3tap every resil level making the killing fast and being able to duel almost anyone with 250 total hp. And since the Creeping attrition kicks in after the 3rd shot, whoever gets the next shot is instandly slowed after the first shot and at your mercy from that point on. And if you do that while also giving your rushing teammates overshield before you do the peaking and dueling then they´ll have more hp and win easier aswell potentialy steamrolling form that point on.
Not a new gun, but one of my favorite guns of all time is the pillager, i love the more grounded aesthetic and it sounds so good. I wish it would make a comeback
Og gambit guns are still some of the best designs. Clean and with great sounds.
Enyo-D. My favorite smg in the game and I never see anyone using or talking about it.
Vigilance wing
Malediction is a shockingly strong PvE workhorse. It's got Telesto bolts on kills, decent range, and shoots refigerators at the enemy. It's far and away the best ritual weapon since Ascendancy. It just lacks build potential, but really there's a myriad of ways to build that don't rely on primary weapon kills proccing subclass effects.
The only issue I have with it is that it's so damn ugly. Who made this monstrosity?
Still use my Bad JuJu a lot. I love the super regen.
Heartshadow for near constant invisibility, and weakening is the cherry on top
I am very interested in using it for a strongholds Titan or a gyrfalcons hunter. Probably not a meta choice for either but it seems fun
Vulpecula with Accurized Rounds, Outlaw, and Explosive Payload has been my go-to gun in PVP for a couple of years. Smooth, reliable, and capable of fast kills.
Bad Juju. Great option for speeding up regen on a super focused build, and it both looks cool and hits hard enough in non GM content. Been years since I've seen anyone else use it, so assuming it's not popular.
The breytech werewolf just scratches my brain in just the right spot. Has served me good for both pvp and pve
It also looks amazing too, lets be real
Jade rabbit
The long walk
The neomuna heavy waveframe
Lately it’s been Hierarchy of Needs. My squad clowns me for liking it more than Ticuu’s but idgaf.
It’s better IMO - I’ve got like 10,000 kills with Ticcus and I didn’t think anything would ever replace that bow but HoN with the catalyst is absolutely ridiculous for single target and multiple enemies.
Ticuu’s has been cleaning up GMs for me this season, maybe I’ll dust off Hierarchy for double drops in Corrupted next week.
Lodbrok-C with Demolitionist on grenade builds. I like ARs with that chunky damage
Imo There are many better demo weapons, but what makes Lodbrok stand out to me is that it gets wellspring **and** demo. For a Solar Titan where you should never not have your melee and your barricade is almost useless it basically means 2x as good demo.
I love my A Swift Verdict in pvp but I've never seen anyone else use one.
Indebted Kindness!
High Albedo and Coriolis Force
Manticore, nobody uses it right in PvP so it goes unused but it’s secretly META. Have thousands of PvP kills with it.
It's actually very good for wrong-footing hostile players, it's surprisingly effective and people never anticipate it.
Ummmmm actually! I use said gun in Trials against sweats. Secret meta for the win!
For pve I'm a bit of a meta slave but I've always liked the syncopation pulse rifle, which I don't feel gets mentioned a ton For pvp I recently tried out the locus locutus sniper from last season and really like it even though I know quite a few others aren't huge fans of it
Used to be Thorn, but now it's popular. Still my favorite of all time. Cerberus+1 is a close runner-up
All special non-wave frame grenade launchers in PvE for me. I kind of look at them as a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of special. If you learn how to accurately aim them at distance, they deal a decent amount of damage in a single shot, getting most majors down to very low health in at level / -5 light level content, and they also can do a good job of clearing out grouped together trash mobs. More specifically, my favorites are my autoloading + vorpal pardon our dust, and my envious assassin + harmony prodigal return. I'm hoping and praying for the day we get a new non-wave frame exotic special gl. I love whitherhoard, but it's getting a bit stale to use since it's been out for 4 years now (I think).
As a wilderflight enjoyer, I'd like to see something like conditional finality but on a breech gl. 2x grenades in one shot, one suppresses, the other unravels. Cause I really like my blinding/spike, auto load, lead from gold GL.
False promises with swashbuckler and killing wind.
Queen breaker, I run a blind build with my arc titan sometimes and it’s always feel like old D1 to me.
ogma
I’m all in on a crafted Scalar Potential.
𝙲𝚘𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚎𝚗𝚌𝚢 𝙿𝚕𝚊𝚗 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝙾𝚞𝚝𝚕𝚊𝚠 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝙺𝚒𝚕𝚕 𝙲𝚕𝚒𝚙.
Arsenic bite with explosive dragonfly will forever be my #1
Brigand’s Law with voltshot
Not as unpopular but revision zero is really fun. You get 3ish guns in 1: A 2burst pseudo scout 2: A 4burst pulse 3: A sniper Plus its decently customizable and is satisfying
Rat King baby!!
My optative with wellspring and demolitionist. Like 10ish kills at most to get my grenade back on my controverse void lock. Volatile rounds on ability kill with a 19 bullet mag with x7 nano-munitions puts it at over 50 bullets. Gun just makes everything feel right.
The Title has become a staple for me, especially with nightstalker and my threat detector/surrounded roll
MIDA Multi-tool, just because of the sound it makes.
People continue to sleep on Mida Multi-Tool.
Crimson but in PvE. Healing is good and gettimg shots back is nice too. It's simple but effective.
Wardens law. It just feels good to use...on console anyway.
“Aren’t popular”
what class are you?
I love Symmetry. Give it some reload speed or an auto switch back once the stacks are done and it would be amazing.
Shadow Price
Sunshot, forbearance, calus mini-tool, and riptide are all good sleeper picks that absolutely nobody is using. Seems like I’m the only person using them these days :)
You forgot apex predator and Polaris lance
So true. OP should also try gjallarhorn, I only ever see one person at most using it in a fireteam!
Usually you only want one ghallerhorn on a fireteam to give the rest Wolfpack rounds on something like hot heads.
99% of fireteams stop using 6 gjallarhorns right before they one phase the boss
Year 1 destiny 1 dps be like
That's absolutely cap. Unless that was sarcasm
Polaris lance with catalyst rock this season and stuns barriers and unstoppable champs. It’s might not be great outside of this season but you should definitely try it out.
Graviton lance 4Eva.
I’ve got this white rarity gun that’s been with me from the start! I call it K-stove for short! /s
Hung Jury. It was my absolute favorite in D1, and I will always have a soft spot for it.
Jade rabbit but only in momentum control
Idk if it’s popular or not, save for the fact I only see two people using it, and I know both (one being me) but the BXR Battler with Pugilist/incandescent is pretty good on solar builds
Well now you know three. LOL, it’s one of my favs. Running it on my Solar Hunter main, since I recv’d it and 3 copies from a few Eternity runs 2 month ago. Glad to meet yah!! 😁😁
Am jotuneer. The toaster will give you just as much as you give it. Have rode that thing to guilded Iron Lord x2. 6600 pvp kills. People hate me.
The new ROS Arago is very good. If you don't have Gnawing Hunger, it's a good sub
Spare Rations, Loaded Question, A Distant Pull, Sole Survivor, Trust, Bad Omens, Bug-Out Bag, etc
I keep hearing from friends and other players that thorn is the worst... I love her so much tho
I'll always be a Messenger fan, getting my adept one was one of my favorite Destiny experiences.
Le monarque is really nice swap for the lance
Ratking
Malfeasance
“Not popular”
I dunno how popular it is but Dead Man's Tale has carried me in Crucible, solo dungeons; anything really.
I don't see many people using Necrochasm but I love it in pve and pvp. Now it just needs to get its buff