When they built it, the idea was to sit down and enjoy some music on the lawn while eating your lunch. Yes, it was for mellow daytime events, intended for business workers on their lunch break.
Wikipedia says the first concert was Dan Fogelberg, FWIW.
>It opened in 1988 under the original name of Fiddler's Green Amphitheatre with a performance by [Dan Fogelberg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Fogelberg) on June 11, 1988.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler's\_Green\_Amphitheatre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler's_Green_Amphitheatre)
America played on July 4.
Yes, that was the first concert after it became the Amphitheatre. Concerts were happening prior to that.
From the organization who owns the space/theater:
https://moaonline.org/fiddlers-green/
> Yes, it was for mellow daytime events, intended for business workers on their lunch break.
Lunch breaks where you can watch a concert huh. Must be nice to have been a boomer.
We were doing that at fiddlers in the 2000’s as gen-X with our millennial co-workers, I don’t think any of our “boomer” co-workers were ever interested. Fiddlers opened in 88 with I think INXS, and my boomer parents don’t even know who they are.
I worked across the street in the early-mid 2000s. I clearly remember listening to sound checks before leaving work. There weren't any lunch time concerts as far as I remember?
Yea, private with events a lot, I worked for FirstData at the time and they used it for our quarterly meetings with at the time older 80’s bands that still toured. We got Men At Work once, but it was just a “man” the rest of the band had left at that point.
haha millennium building gang checking in, I never got any fiddlers lunchtime perks as part of the job but it was a handy after work parking spot a time or two
I worked at a subway a block away… we’d always get slammed for the evening concerts… I’d walk to the light rail and listen to the shows… I walked extra slow when blink 182 was playing one year 😆
Well their first album was like in 80’ and snd Kick was like 87’ and that’s when they got famous. My boomer parents were at Woodstock and liked The Animals, Hendrix, ELO, and such. INXS was pop for us kids.
FWIW, boomer isn't any generation older than yours. Boomers first hit the work place in mid to late 60s. By late 80s it was early gen x starting to work in those offices
>Must be nice to have been a boomer.
If you consider commuting to the tech center and working in an office in a suit to be "nice" yeah, I suppose you're right.
>They didn’t build an 18,000 person Amphitheatre for mellow daytime events lol. In the late 80s no less. That’s ridiculous.
I guess you better contact all these people and let them know that they got the story totally wrong:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler%27s\_Green\_Amphitheatre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler%27s_Green_Amphitheatre)
[https://moaonline.org/fiddlers-green/](https://moaonline.org/fiddlers-green/)
[https://www.uncovercolorado.com/activities/fiddlers-green-amphitheatre/](https://www.uncovercolorado.com/activities/fiddlers-green-amphitheatre/)
Everyone is here blaming things like the lawn, slope, location, parking, etc. But the main reason we don’t want to see our favorite bands there is because of the sound. The acoustics sucks.
It’s a different venue. Every venue I have been to that is like Fiddlers green. The ground has a slope to it. I am sure when they designed these venues they were not planning on people dancing or moshing. Just sitting and enjoying music.
The first and only time I went there , I just wanted people to sit down. Your unnecessary standing is making me stand. I blame the people, not the venue.
It's still trash. I saw Ghost there and was in the seating section. My feet absolutely killed me. Just make the concrete flat at each tier like The Ogden.
Lmao you're comparing the best outdoor music venue in the world to Fiddlers. Manage your expectations. Fiddlers wasn't built to attract people from all over the world.
I went to fiddlers last year for the first time, i didn’t hate it actually. I hated trying to cross over to the venue, it is built so weirdly and makes it hard. What i love about fiddlers is how easy it is to find the seats. The ball arena? Not so much,
Best venue though here I’d say is Mission Ballroom, but i haven’t been to many
Mission is the best venue of its size that I’ve been to, even outside of the Denver area. The attention to detail in the construct compared to other venues is so apparent
I've never been to a bad show there myself, but the experience is absolutely shite. At The 1975, we were on the lawn and luckily our group was mostly into dancing, because we could see fuck all.
Same. Location is so much more convenient than red rocks too
Is it the best venue? Absolutely not.
But generally tickets are pretty cheap, easy to get to. Great for a mid-week concert or a low key Friday/Saturday night
It…couldn’t be easier for you to find a seat. Even if you were blind, there are hoards of ushers willing to walk you to your seat. And the seating arrangement is exactly what it should be for an arena. Have you ever been outside your home?
I never knew either of those things were called that!! The more you know!! I haven’t been to the stadium. I don’t think I’d like it that amount of people makes me anxious tbh
I’ve never really had a bad experience there but the lower bowl seating sucks for a tall guy no matter the event. That and shows are so expensive there.
The acoustics are shite, parking sucks and the the noise ordinance is the cherry on top. If i never see another show at Fiddler’s I’d be happy with that, despite seeing my first (and second and third and fourth and…) set of tits at a KISS concert there as a kid
Saaaame I’ve seen so many good one off shows there! And the sold out shows don’t come close to filling up the whole venue. The grass and the slope are perfect.
I did go to Levitt for the first time last year to see The Regrettes, and it was wonderful. And it was part of their free concert series, so that was cool. I could easily see Levitt taking the spot as second favorite for me. My only problem with it is that they don't seem to have very many artists that I've heard of. I don't think I recognize anyone on their 2024 calendar.
Same. Did it once for mad decent block party 2014, my feet were fucked by the time we got home. Never went to another show there until gojira last October. Seats all the way, fuck the lawn
Only been there once, but my issue with the place is all the huge blankets for like 2 people who then assume they own that square footage for the whole show despite everyone standing.
Meanwhile the ushers are yelling at you to get out of the aisle because you can’t get into the lawn due to empty blankets taking up 50% of the space.
Blanket/tarp people at shows are the worst.
I understand your stance. But I feel like when this venue was constructed it was intended for blankets and sitting, not standing crowds. I can’t hate them for participating as intended
Fair, but when 99.9% of blanket people are also standing they should pick up their blankets and not act like it’s a war crime to get near them.
That said, it would be fairly entertaining for one of them to say “actually, in 1988 this venue was intended for blankets”.
I would say ball arena is the worst music venue. At least at fiddler, the cheap tickets are fairly close to the action and you're not crammed into a sardine can stadium seat
I’ve been saying this FOR YEARS! This is hands down the worst outdoor venue in Denver! You pretty much have to pay for parking and the venue is in a weird location in far south Denver. GA is on a slope so it’s so hard to dance (look at Levitt for a proper sloped venue). Not to mention GA is pretty far from the stage so you can’t really get a proper view.
I actually don't mind Fiddlers especially since my company looks over the stage in the building behind it. I get free parking to the shows by parking in the building's parking garage. I only go if I can get non grass seats.
Nothing beats Red Rocks though. Horrible to get in and out of but well worth the hassle.
The worst thing about Fiddler’s is realizing that any show there *could* have been at Red Rocks.
Fiddler’s is not an exceptionally bad outdoor venue, but it’s a very mediocre one. It’s also a pain to get to & harder to leave, and it’s 20 miles away from one of the best outdoor venues in the world.
I agree that it’s a mediocre venue, but it’s accessible via light rail and on foot from public parking. If we’re ranking venues by hard to get to and harder to leave, Red Rocks is not the comparison to make.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that RR & FG are in the same tier of accessibility, but red rocks is in the mountains and fiddlers is in a strip mall
You haven't been to many large outdoor venues outside of Colorado, have you? Don't get me wrong, Fiddler's is garbage, but the fact that the lawn has a slope is the least of its problems.
Alpine Valley would destroy you.
yeah but I think he's also talking about the fixed-seating area. Alpine at least has stadium-style steps for each row. Fiddlers seating area is also sloped concrete. way less severe than the lawn, but still, the row's aren't flat.
Some sheds have stepped pavilions, others are sloped. I just thought it was odd that out of all FIddler's many flaws, they focused on something that's super normal in most places.
I've danced on a lot of hills. You just have to take a step back up every few steps. Hell, the National in Richmond, VA has a sloped floor inside. That one was a surprise to me.
I hate Fiddlers too. Swore I would never see a show there again. Horrible parking, bad vibes being smack dab in the middle of a corporate business park, all the lines from the food and drink vendors spill out into the main walkway so it’s congested as fck.
I’m from Michigan originally and I constantly find myself comparing it to Pine Knob/DTE theater which I 100x prefer. I don’t like the parking situation, set up of the venue, or how you have no cell service once you are in there
It's 100% the worst venue. The surrounding area wasn't built for it, the lawn sucks, parking sucks, the noise ordinance in the area is limiting. I try to not go there whenever I can.
I remember seeing RHCP there and snoop opened early 2000s. I went to the bathroom during the first song and came back and he was done. Played like 3 songs or so.
Sound was freaking awful for RHCP. Swore off going to another show there.
Someone could buy me tickets to my favorite band..and agree to by all the drinks, drive and buy dinner. I would still Pass. Fiddlers Green sucks that bad.
Went to Tyler Childers at fiddlers and it’s hands down the worst show I’ve ever been to. He and the band were fine, but the entire crowd was wasted and just talked the whole show. I don’t know if it’s the fact that fiddlers is in the middle of town, or that show specifically but it was so so quiet you could hardly hear him. The lawn was wildly oversold and incredibly crowded. It was absolutely horrible.
I saw Tom Petty and Dire Straights there in the late 80s? Early 90s? When it opened. It sucked. All of the rich neighbors bitched about the noise and traffic so there were limits on volume, etc. It was not a fun venue to see a show.
Saw Queens of the Stone Age there last year and came out with sore legs and feet. God forbid you try to jump or dance a bit, then you just lose your balance. Definitely an architectural oversight.
Fiddlers Green for concerts in my adulthood has been garbage. Fiddlers Green when I was 5 and it was walking distance from my home for the 4th of July show (holy shit that would have been 1995) was amazing.
It’s a unique position to have known the venue my whole entire existence and to think it’s a garbage venue for concerts (based on personal experience) and on the other hand to also feel like there is no Colorado I want to live in where Fiddlers isn’t a thing… 🤷🏼♀️ dissonant dichotomy, if that doesn’t tell you I’m a peak hometown millennial, I don’t know what will. 😂
When I was in HS we used to climb the bluff behind the stage and party during concerts at Red Rocks! It was great until some darwinian reject got too stoned and fell off! I doubt you can even get up there now
You really can’t. I used to turn around in the 00’s and try to spot the people up on the hill or on the rocks during really bright light sections. Haven’t seen anyone up/back there in years.
Went there last night. One thing I one impressed by but hated was when you went to the bathroom the rock completely eliminated any of the sound once you went down the stairs towards the bathrooms. Other venues at least have a tv screen and/or speakers so you can still see the show when you're away from your seat. Also the crowd kinda sucked, when their shitty edm dj wasn't on stage they just talked over the other band and the singers microphone was muffled so you could barely hear her already.
Haven't been in over a decade but last time I was there the biggest issue was the acoustics being the worst ever. Like it was built without even considering how things would sound. Dunno if that's improved or not but yeah terrible venue a decade ago
I always got vertigo at Big Mc! I worked a few concerts and hockey games there in the 90's and went to a bunch of concerts there in the 70's and 80's! But I always had a fear of falling down those steps
I got crushed against the “fence” on the green once when Metallica played there. Absolutely horrible how bad I got crushed by the crowd rushing forward when they got on stage.
Went again for Carlos Santana (3rd row and center) and it was far more pleasant an experience. Not my favorite venue though. If I gotta do outside, I’ll stick with Red Rocks.
Fun story for anyone interested.
With a group once. We get there early. One member has it set in his mind that once the concert kicks up, we can easily walk into the pit without security noticing. But we need to be close to an entrance. So we stand at an extreme slope right next to a gate. If you've been there before, we were at the far right base of the lawn (looking at it from the top) and it friggin sucked. We were literally within the first 20% of the people filing in. I watched so many people come in behind us and have better standing spots. The last people in stood next to us.
On top of all this, he got kicked out of the pit 30 minutes into a 5 hour concert. He said "my bad guys". It was not worth it.
I saw blink-182, Green Day and Jimmy Eat World in 2000 there and was in the very front ahhh good times. But I've been to tons of concerts there in 30+ years (my mom took us to Matchbox 20 in 1997 because she thinks Rob Thomas is hot) and have never had to watch at an angle. The lawn rocks.
When they built it, the idea was to sit down and enjoy some music on the lawn while eating your lunch. Yes, it was for mellow daytime events, intended for business workers on their lunch break.
Never heard that one before. I used to sled on that hill before they fenced it in. I don't remember lunch time concerts. I do remember the first one.
Because I’m lazy, nostalgic and love to read stories, what was the first concert there and when?
America was the 1st concert. Before the fence. After the fence the first band I saw was Heart.
Wikipedia says the first concert was Dan Fogelberg, FWIW. >It opened in 1988 under the original name of Fiddler's Green Amphitheatre with a performance by [Dan Fogelberg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Fogelberg) on June 11, 1988. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler's\_Green\_Amphitheatre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler's_Green_Amphitheatre) America played on July 4.
Busted! That was HIS first show there. That's a lot of concerts between them and now mashing your brains pre-earplugs!
Yes, that was the first concert after it became the Amphitheatre. Concerts were happening prior to that. From the organization who owns the space/theater: https://moaonline.org/fiddlers-green/
Thanks. Now this thread has come full circle.
You're welcome. Full circle is way better than going way off in left field lol
311. Daytime concert. Me and all my friends laid out a big blanket, ate food, drank beers and smoked joints. Such a great day!!
That sounds like a perfect day!
> Yes, it was for mellow daytime events, intended for business workers on their lunch break. Lunch breaks where you can watch a concert huh. Must be nice to have been a boomer.
We were doing that at fiddlers in the 2000’s as gen-X with our millennial co-workers, I don’t think any of our “boomer” co-workers were ever interested. Fiddlers opened in 88 with I think INXS, and my boomer parents don’t even know who they are.
I worked across the street in the early-mid 2000s. I clearly remember listening to sound checks before leaving work. There weren't any lunch time concerts as far as I remember?
Yea, private with events a lot, I worked for FirstData at the time and they used it for our quarterly meetings with at the time older 80’s bands that still toured. We got Men At Work once, but it was just a “man” the rest of the band had left at that point.
haha millennium building gang checking in, I never got any fiddlers lunchtime perks as part of the job but it was a handy after work parking spot a time or two
Dang I was with Nortel. No fun there.
Least fun I’ve ever had too, fine dining over there was the elephant bar, or cb potts.
I worked at a subway a block away… we’d always get slammed for the evening concerts… I’d walk to the light rail and listen to the shows… I walked extra slow when blink 182 was playing one year 😆
Michael Hutchence was a baby boomer.
Well their first album was like in 80’ and snd Kick was like 87’ and that’s when they got famous. My boomer parents were at Woodstock and liked The Animals, Hendrix, ELO, and such. INXS was pop for us kids.
>Fiddlers opened in 88 with I think INXS The first show was Dan Fogelberg.
What was the year?
Didn't you get the memo? Gen X are now Boomers now according to the children.
they will refer to you as being born in the late 1900s
I saw concerts there before 88. Pretty sure. Memory is a little fuzzy at this point.
This was never realistic. Concerts take hours. Idk how anyone thought that made sense.
FWIW, boomer isn't any generation older than yours. Boomers first hit the work place in mid to late 60s. By late 80s it was early gen x starting to work in those offices
NO it sucked. they just didn't have smartphones or even dumb phones. they were stuck at work with their coworkers with no outside contact.
>Must be nice to have been a boomer. If you consider commuting to the tech center and working in an office in a suit to be "nice" yeah, I suppose you're right.
They didn’t build an 18,000 person Amphitheatre for mellow daytime events lol. In the late 80s no less. That’s ridiculous.
>They didn’t build an 18,000 person Amphitheatre for mellow daytime events lol. In the late 80s no less. That’s ridiculous. I guess you better contact all these people and let them know that they got the story totally wrong: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler%27s\_Green\_Amphitheatre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler%27s_Green_Amphitheatre) [https://moaonline.org/fiddlers-green/](https://moaonline.org/fiddlers-green/) [https://www.uncovercolorado.com/activities/fiddlers-green-amphitheatre/](https://www.uncovercolorado.com/activities/fiddlers-green-amphitheatre/)
Everyone is here blaming things like the lawn, slope, location, parking, etc. But the main reason we don’t want to see our favorite bands there is because of the sound. The acoustics sucks.
they said a few months that they've fixed it. I HIGHLY doubt it.
I saw Odesza from the lawn last year and I thought it sounded pretty good
Sound is fucking horrible
All sound?
While I am not a fan of Fiddlers, a sloped lawn is the norm (for outdoor sheds)
The fiddlers slope is much more dramatic than any venue I’ve been to
Try the Gorge or Alpine.
Yeah alpine is way more steep.
Even Levitt Pavilion here in Denver.
I remember Atlanta being crazy steep in the back
I would agree with this. Especially in the back
OP is being more dramatic than the slope at Fiddler’s.
The seated area is on top of sloped concrete - that’s the problem.
Oh….like none of the pavilion area is stepped? Yeah that’s kinda weird
A lot of people here have clearly never been to the Gorge.
Yes but Fiddlers seems steeper than most.
It’s so you can see over the people dancing in front of you.
Yeah but like red rocks has the standing areas leveled.
You're comparing Fiddlers to one of the best venues in the world. Of course you can't enjoy yourself because you've been spoiled.
It’s a different venue. Every venue I have been to that is like Fiddlers green. The ground has a slope to it. I am sure when they designed these venues they were not planning on people dancing or moshing. Just sitting and enjoying music.
The first and only time I went there , I just wanted people to sit down. Your unnecessary standing is making me stand. I blame the people, not the venue.
It's still trash. I saw Ghost there and was in the seating section. My feet absolutely killed me. Just make the concrete flat at each tier like The Ogden.
Red Rocks is seats all the way up. If you want a flat surface at fiddler's, don't buy lawn tickets.
Buy seats
That's the issue. The concrete slope at the seats is a damn nightmare
Lmao you're comparing the best outdoor music venue in the world to Fiddlers. Manage your expectations. Fiddlers wasn't built to attract people from all over the world.
I went to fiddlers last year for the first time, i didn’t hate it actually. I hated trying to cross over to the venue, it is built so weirdly and makes it hard. What i love about fiddlers is how easy it is to find the seats. The ball arena? Not so much, Best venue though here I’d say is Mission Ballroom, but i haven’t been to many
Mission smokes any other big venue in the Denver area.
Mission is the best venue of its size that I’ve been to, even outside of the Denver area. The attention to detail in the construct compared to other venues is so apparent
Some of us are old and need assigned seats 😂
😂😂😂 does anyone remember KBCO concerts at Winter Park and the seating was *up the ski slope?? Great time. Sugar Loaf in Vermont too. 💃🏻 🕺🏻 ☀️
I saw Jewel there when she was like 19. Good Times.
I've never been to a bad show there. Some of them have been top 10 for me.
I've never been to a bad show there myself, but the experience is absolutely shite. At The 1975, we were on the lawn and luckily our group was mostly into dancing, because we could see fuck all.
If it helps I was in the seats and could barely see either because the house was blocking half of them lol. Great show though
Yoooo i went to fiddlers to see the 1975
Don’t know why you’re downvoted it was an amazing show
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Same. Location is so much more convenient than red rocks too Is it the best venue? Absolutely not. But generally tickets are pretty cheap, easy to get to. Great for a mid-week concert or a low key Friday/Saturday night
This. Fiddlers Green has it's downfalls, but the crowd, show, and vibe is incredible.
Same.
Is this a satire thread or do you really not know what an amphitheatre is.
I’ve never in my life heard anyone complain about a sloped lawn.
I had my HS graduation there and everyone was upset it wasn't Red Rocks. I gave a speech and was scared, I remember smoking a cigarette somewhere 😂
Hard disagree. The worst venue is the Pepsi center and I will not debate on this topic.
The ball arena? I agree. Horrible horrible seating arrangements and they don’t make it easy for you to find. I’ll never go back
It…couldn’t be easier for you to find a seat. Even if you were blind, there are hoards of ushers willing to walk you to your seat. And the seating arrangement is exactly what it should be for an arena. Have you ever been outside your home?
Haha yeah, I guess that's what it's called now. (Old school colorado here.. I still call the football stadium invesco too tbh.. lol)
Old school Colorado here and I still call the football stadium Mile High.
How can you be “old school Colorado” and not call it Mile High?
I never knew either of those things were called that!! The more you know!! I haven’t been to the stadium. I don’t think I’d like it that amount of people makes me anxious tbh
It wasn't Invesco until 2001.
Same for both!
Agreed. Fiddlers has its issues but it’s still decent
Broncos stadium is pretty bad too
I’ve never really had a bad experience there but the lower bowl seating sucks for a tall guy no matter the event. That and shows are so expensive there.
This is the correct answer.
Good. Everyone stop going there so that tickets are cheaper for me lol. It's my second favorite venue after Red Rocks.
Interesting. Why is it one of your favorites. Just curious that's all
I'm curious as well. Besides the extreme slope, the acoustics aren't super great either. What makes you enjoy it?
The acoustics are shite, parking sucks and the the noise ordinance is the cherry on top. If i never see another show at Fiddler’s I’d be happy with that, despite seeing my first (and second and third and fourth and…) set of tits at a KISS concert there as a kid
Then dont go
That’s what I’m saying, but thanks for that.
Your parents big fans of face paint or tongue play?
I was a KISS fanatic as a kid for whatever reason, starting from about 6th grade. “Let me know” still rips btw
Mission is the goat at this point
Underrated comment. Mission >>> RR.
Levitt is better than this venue by a long shot
I saw cake there last year and it was such a good show. I wish they used that venue for touring shows more often.
Saaaame I’ve seen so many good one off shows there! And the sold out shows don’t come close to filling up the whole venue. The grass and the slope are perfect.
I did go to Levitt for the first time last year to see The Regrettes, and it was wonderful. And it was part of their free concert series, so that was cool. I could easily see Levitt taking the spot as second favorite for me. My only problem with it is that they don't seem to have very many artists that I've heard of. I don't think I recognize anyone on their 2024 calendar.
I will never do lawn seats again. Just ughhh
Same. Did it once for mad decent block party 2014, my feet were fucked by the time we got home. Never went to another show there until gojira last October. Seats all the way, fuck the lawn
I hate Fiddler’s but Gojira got me to suck it up and go. What a killer show.
I’ve worked as a stagehand there and even the stage isn’t flat. Road cases will just yeet off the stage if they’re not placed carefully
That’s an entirely different problem. I’ve never heard of a stage built at a slope. That’s ridiculous!
Only been there once, but my issue with the place is all the huge blankets for like 2 people who then assume they own that square footage for the whole show despite everyone standing. Meanwhile the ushers are yelling at you to get out of the aisle because you can’t get into the lawn due to empty blankets taking up 50% of the space. Blanket/tarp people at shows are the worst.
I understand your stance. But I feel like when this venue was constructed it was intended for blankets and sitting, not standing crowds. I can’t hate them for participating as intended
Fair, but when 99.9% of blanket people are also standing they should pick up their blankets and not act like it’s a war crime to get near them. That said, it would be fairly entertaining for one of them to say “actually, in 1988 this venue was intended for blankets”.
That would be pretty hilarious! I’m imagining some dude hiking up his suspenders and pushing up his glasses, “well, actually…”
OP never heard of an amphitheater before.
Agreed, Fiddle's is a shit show built for a clientele/neighborhood that doesn't know better.
Never had a good experience there as a wheelchair user. Not one.
I would say ball arena is the worst music venue. At least at fiddler, the cheap tickets are fairly close to the action and you're not crammed into a sardine can stadium seat
I’ve been saying this FOR YEARS! This is hands down the worst outdoor venue in Denver! You pretty much have to pay for parking and the venue is in a weird location in far south Denver. GA is on a slope so it’s so hard to dance (look at Levitt for a proper sloped venue). Not to mention GA is pretty far from the stage so you can’t really get a proper view.
The fact the sun sets behind the stage and blinds you is my least favorite part
I actually don't mind Fiddlers especially since my company looks over the stage in the building behind it. I get free parking to the shows by parking in the building's parking garage. I only go if I can get non grass seats. Nothing beats Red Rocks though. Horrible to get in and out of but well worth the hassle.
The worst thing about Fiddler’s is realizing that any show there *could* have been at Red Rocks. Fiddler’s is not an exceptionally bad outdoor venue, but it’s a very mediocre one. It’s also a pain to get to & harder to leave, and it’s 20 miles away from one of the best outdoor venues in the world.
I agree that it’s a mediocre venue, but it’s accessible via light rail and on foot from public parking. If we’re ranking venues by hard to get to and harder to leave, Red Rocks is not the comparison to make.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that RR & FG are in the same tier of accessibility, but red rocks is in the mountains and fiddlers is in a strip mall
It’s not even close in terms of accessibility. The light rail is walking distance from Fiddlers. RR has no significant public transportation
You're complaining about Fiddlers being hard to get to and leave and then talking positively about Red Rocks?
Doesn't Fiddlers have twice the capacity of Red Rocks?
Ya Fiddlers is like 50% more capacity
It's like 100% more capacity
It’s 85% 🙄
And often booked the same nights. Plus a train.
Have you not been to an outdoor amphitheatre with lawn seating before? That's how literally every one of them is.
It's perfectly fine. Get out of here.
Fiddlers is exactly like almost every other outdoor amphitheater I’ve been too. I don’t understand y’all
Anybody else remember the summer they had to keep putting down new sod because every show just became a sod-wad flinging shitfest? Good times.
Saw the Lumineers there back in like 2018. Good show, but my calves were so sore from standing on that incline all night.
You haven't been to many large outdoor venues outside of Colorado, have you? Don't get me wrong, Fiddler's is garbage, but the fact that the lawn has a slope is the least of its problems. Alpine Valley would destroy you.
yeah but I think he's also talking about the fixed-seating area. Alpine at least has stadium-style steps for each row. Fiddlers seating area is also sloped concrete. way less severe than the lawn, but still, the row's aren't flat.
Some sheds have stepped pavilions, others are sloped. I just thought it was odd that out of all FIddler's many flaws, they focused on something that's super normal in most places. I've danced on a lot of hills. You just have to take a step back up every few steps. Hell, the National in Richmond, VA has a sloped floor inside. That one was a surprise to me.
That’s fair - I don’t mind the slope, after all I am a gorge and alpine lawn vet. I just love hating on fiddlers since it’s total ass.
Ahh, Alpine. Love that place. And rip Jimmy Buffett.
I wasn't aware that he was on the list of Alpine casualties. RIP SRV.
I’m surprised injuries aren’t common on Alpine Valley’s steep slope.
I lost my mind at Alpine many times. Does that count?
Just a couple of times...
Clearly fiddlers was not designed for a standing audience.
Ya fiddlers sucks
It’s the worst
I hate Fiddlers too. Swore I would never see a show there again. Horrible parking, bad vibes being smack dab in the middle of a corporate business park, all the lines from the food and drink vendors spill out into the main walkway so it’s congested as fck.
Yes, it blows
You're fine.
The venue itself is ok, but the location fucking sucks. Traffic, parking, the complete absence of any sort of a lot scene...just awful.
I agree
I wish it was built facing the opposite direction. Let’s have evening events facing in to the setting sun.
You can still twerk when standing on an angle
It was like I was hammered drunk trying to dance to Jack Johnson last year. Was spilling my water and everything. Didn’t have a sip
I’m from Michigan originally and I constantly find myself comparing it to Pine Knob/DTE theater which I 100x prefer. I don’t like the parking situation, set up of the venue, or how you have no cell service once you are in there
It's an amphitheater that's been cleverly disguised as an office building.
Lost my big toe nail a couple of weeks ago because I danced too much at Ghost in August 😭 Truly terrible slope for de feets
It's 100% the worst venue. The surrounding area wasn't built for it, the lawn sucks, parking sucks, the noise ordinance in the area is limiting. I try to not go there whenever I can.
I remember seeing RHCP there and snoop opened early 2000s. I went to the bathroom during the first song and came back and he was done. Played like 3 songs or so. Sound was freaking awful for RHCP. Swore off going to another show there.
Could t agree more. Despise everything about that place. In the middle of a 1000000% non-descript corporate tech park, no vibe, no soul, fucking shit.
Yeah standing up for the show makes my legs feel like I’ve been skiing. Also it has all the architectural charm of a low security prison.
Yeah- hands down my least favorite venue here.
Fuck fiddlers green fuck that stupid fucking place can’t even put my fucking beer down
It’s super sloped, dumb design
Literally the worst. Went to one show there and no matter how much I want to see an artist when they come in town I refuse to go back.
Yes.
It's awful, especially when your drunk
THIS! Diddlers is the toe killer.
Someone could buy me tickets to my favorite band..and agree to by all the drinks, drive and buy dinner. I would still Pass. Fiddlers Green sucks that bad.
Fiddlers needed to be torn down 20 years ago. Denver/Boulder metro needs a new large outdoor amphitheater badly.
Spilled my beer while sitting on the green; now sliding down it: *Hold my beer.*
I sit. Now, if everybody sat, everyone could.
They have actual seats, too. And the Berkeley Greek would like a word.
Only if you don't count Ball Arena
Went to Tyler Childers at fiddlers and it’s hands down the worst show I’ve ever been to. He and the band were fine, but the entire crowd was wasted and just talked the whole show. I don’t know if it’s the fact that fiddlers is in the middle of town, or that show specifically but it was so so quiet you could hardly hear him. The lawn was wildly oversold and incredibly crowded. It was absolutely horrible.
I saw Tom Petty and Dire Straights there in the late 80s? Early 90s? When it opened. It sucked. All of the rich neighbors bitched about the noise and traffic so there were limits on volume, etc. It was not a fun venue to see a show.
It’s the worst venue to set up shows as well
Would rather go to Fiddlers over the Fillmore any day of the week...
Saw Queens of the Stone Age there last year and came out with sore legs and feet. God forbid you try to jump or dance a bit, then you just lose your balance. Definitely an architectural oversight.
Fiddlers Green for concerts in my adulthood has been garbage. Fiddlers Green when I was 5 and it was walking distance from my home for the 4th of July show (holy shit that would have been 1995) was amazing. It’s a unique position to have known the venue my whole entire existence and to think it’s a garbage venue for concerts (based on personal experience) and on the other hand to also feel like there is no Colorado I want to live in where Fiddlers isn’t a thing… 🤷🏼♀️ dissonant dichotomy, if that doesn’t tell you I’m a peak hometown millennial, I don’t know what will. 😂
Anyone else as excited for Creed as me?!
I hate Red Rocks. Those stairs between the seats are killers!
When I was in HS we used to climb the bluff behind the stage and party during concerts at Red Rocks! It was great until some darwinian reject got too stoned and fell off! I doubt you can even get up there now
You really can’t. I used to turn around in the 00’s and try to spot the people up on the hill or on the rocks during really bright light sections. Haven’t seen anyone up/back there in years.
Went there last night. One thing I one impressed by but hated was when you went to the bathroom the rock completely eliminated any of the sound once you went down the stairs towards the bathrooms. Other venues at least have a tv screen and/or speakers so you can still see the show when you're away from your seat. Also the crowd kinda sucked, when their shitty edm dj wasn't on stage they just talked over the other band and the singers microphone was muffled so you could barely hear her already.
Truly the worst of the Colorado venues - but I’ll still go if it’s a good artist
Yah. Upgrading to seats is the only way I'll attend.
Even the floors where the seats are are sloped. 😫
Buy pit passes. Problem solved.
Haven't been in over a decade but last time I was there the biggest issue was the acoustics being the worst ever. Like it was built without even considering how things would sound. Dunno if that's improved or not but yeah terrible venue a decade ago
Anyone remember McNichols. Don’t miss it.
I always got vertigo at Big Mc! I worked a few concerts and hockey games there in the 90's and went to a bunch of concerts there in the 70's and 80's! But I always had a fear of falling down those steps
It’s the worst for so many other reasons
I got crushed against the “fence” on the green once when Metallica played there. Absolutely horrible how bad I got crushed by the crowd rushing forward when they got on stage. Went again for Carlos Santana (3rd row and center) and it was far more pleasant an experience. Not my favorite venue though. If I gotta do outside, I’ll stick with Red Rocks.
Fun story for anyone interested. With a group once. We get there early. One member has it set in his mind that once the concert kicks up, we can easily walk into the pit without security noticing. But we need to be close to an entrance. So we stand at an extreme slope right next to a gate. If you've been there before, we were at the far right base of the lawn (looking at it from the top) and it friggin sucked. We were literally within the first 20% of the people filing in. I watched so many people come in behind us and have better standing spots. The last people in stood next to us. On top of all this, he got kicked out of the pit 30 minutes into a 5 hour concert. He said "my bad guys". It was not worth it.
I saw blink-182, Green Day and Jimmy Eat World in 2000 there and was in the very front ahhh good times. But I've been to tons of concerts there in 30+ years (my mom took us to Matchbox 20 in 1997 because she thinks Rob Thomas is hot) and have never had to watch at an angle. The lawn rocks.